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  • #636213

    In reply to: McCain picks woman vp

    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Diane:

    Thank you for that unbiased and honest review/opinion on Palin.

    I’m starting to think that it was an extremely intelligent choice.

    Maybe he isn’t so demented after all…..

    #636000
    thriftwaygirl
    Participant

    I just went out to look in the general area that he was last spotted. After calling out several times, I heard a response (barking). This of course may have just been other neighborhood dogs barking because it was after dark, but you never know.

    I waited there for a while calling and looked around in bushes etc but no sign of him. But the answer to my calling out gave me hope he may be in the area.

    Have you gone door to door in that area? Maybe someone took him in, but isn’t a WSB visitor…?

    I’ll keep my eye out and do a drive by during daylight hours.

    #635526
    mellaw6565
    Member

    Interesting this decision came out today in light of this thread:

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/377123_folklife30.html?source=rss

    I love the exchange between the attorney, the judge and the LEGAL gun carrier:

    “For people who think they need a gun in a public place, they should have second thoughts,” Hammer told Trickey.

    “No kidding,” the judge answered, without humor.

    After hearing an apology from Grainger, Trickey called the 22-year-old’s decision to bring a gun to a crowded public gathering “a colossal lapse of judgment.”

    (end)

    Also, I love the fact that the LEGAL gun carrier was sentenced to continue treatment for heroin addiction. Now that’s the kind of LEGAL gun carrier I want around kids and people in my public parks!

    Proves your point, eh JoB?

    #636209

    In reply to: McCain picks woman vp

    Diane
    Participant

    thanks SuitsarenotBoring for “Going back to Palin”

    ~

    I was shocked at 7:45am to see this in breaking news, and started this post; then had to run

    ~

    I wouldn’t have remembered her by name, like TR’s hilarious script of her morning, “WHO?”, but I had heard a lot about her (as the Gov of Alaska) back in April when she basically took 5 mins from her job to have a baby, her 5th; I knew nothing of her politics, but amazed at her capacity to give birth and run back to the business of governing a state

    ~

    seeing Palin this am, my first reaction was “what the heck is with the huge up-do?”, which is exactly how all the girls wore their hair for formals when I was in high school, 40 years ago; the ’84 beauty queen thing doesn’t even explain it; Phyllis Schlafly hair comes to mind, and very similar ideals, super smart and super conservative; Palin could be a younger, cuter, kinder, more well-spoken version of Schlafly; check it out: http://www.eagleforum.org/misc/bio.html

    ~

    having watched many of Palin’s speeches and interviews today, I am concerned; she is extremely articulate, brazen, bold; and walks the talk for her point of view by showing her love for her downs baby that many would have considered legal/ethical to abort; she’s advocating for opening up her state to oil drilling, saying there are trillions of reserves, would provide jobs, would save the country by providing oil until we can create alternatives; and with her oldest son in Iraq; and out there hunting in the wilderness for moose to show off how guns can be good; she speaks brilliantly to the conservative agenda and is very dynamic; as much as the pundits have tried to rip her apart today, I’m very concerned that she can win over many swing voters; she’s very likeable and the oil, gun, Iraq position coming from a woman, from a mom……McCain really got lucky with this one

    #636518

    In reply to: Chorizo and eggs?

    elgrego
    Member

    I’ve been to the Bakery, that’s a good idea. I didn’t even think about them (and I was even telling someone about it today). I don’t like Endolyne Joe’s at all, so that’s a no-go. Alki Cafe might be good, but that’s a bit of a hike for me (I leave near Westwood Village).

    #636517

    In reply to: Chorizo and eggs?

    RS
    Member

    That is a fabulous taco truck, but I’m pretty sure they don’t do eggs and chorizo. Elgrego, have you tried the Salvadoran Bakery? They have sit-down breakfast and have chorizo and egg, I think. Endolyne Joe’s sometimes has migas with chorizo, and the Alki Cafe used to have a chorizo scramble too.

    #635518
    mellaw6565
    Member

    LOL JoB! I’m with you 100% on all of your sentiments posted here.

    Vincent – once again, no one is talking about taking away your freedom or your right to own a gun. Your evidence about what the Framers intended is also anecdotal at best and so is your claimed right to carry a gun whenever and wherever you feel like it.

    It is clear that the government is allowed to impose reasonable restrictions on gun ownership in the interest of public safety. That is what we are talking about, not about your right to own a gun in general. Quit being so dramatic and angry – “fascist implications” – please! Get a grip!

    #635906
    JoB
    Participant

    New Resident,

    at what point are the right to free speech and the right to freely associate negated by the fact that the person you are talking with and associating with once engaged in political protest?

    correct me if i am wrong.. but political protest is the essence of free speech.

    I am afraid it is impossible to connect Obama to any possible crimes committed during that political protest since he wouldn’t have been old enough at the time to commit those crimes or been living where it would have been possible for him to inadvertently be included somehow in the commission of those crimes.

    So, his crime is enjoying the dinner conversation of someone whose has paid whatever debt he incurred to society and is intelligent and respected enough to be part of the local university.

    Have you looked at who McCain hangs out with.. heck, who he does business with and who they do business with?

    That’s current terrorism on a global scale…

    if we follow your logic, McCain should be jailed and we should throw away the key.

    #635515
    vincent
    Member

    Your argument is filled with emotional pleas and loops all around various talking points with the only anchor being fear of the unknown. Fear of other people with freedoms, and it would seem fear of what you would do with the same freedoms as another person, ( Your constant projection of people with legal firearms flashing them and firing into public).

    Ultimately your opinions are just that, and sadly they weigh very heavily on anecdotal evidence. You also are pushing for legislation that is against the spirit of this countries bill of rights, but has immense fascist implications on its own. all facts you choose to ignore in the view that your personal *ideal* of safety is more important than facts.

    You live in a country that has a right to bear arms, and that right extends to public places. Parks are public places, they are not the property of the city, or the mayor. Supporting this ban is not only ridiculous, and short sided its wasteful, as it will be easily defeated in court.

    Freedom is a tricky thing, with any rights, you have to take the good with the bad, for every I have a dream you have to also accept racist diatribes. Or you dilute the point of all of it, as people seem more and more apt to forget as time goes on and this country gets less free every day.

    #635888
    HP
    Member

    unfortunatly i know a couple of people who have had multiple abortions and had them paid by getting a medical coupon from dshs, i have a good friend who is a case worker for dshs and they pass out medical coupons for abortions like tickets to a sporting event. so sad.. just for clarification i do not believe government should interfere in a womans right to choose but maybe a 3 strikes deal of sorts so this hainous method of birthcontrol is not an option, sterilization after a certain number of abortions? (i know that is extreme i am really just trying to make a point with that) or mandatory depo shots for repeat offenders. And what NR said about teaching our young girls self respect and self confidence just to start, is something we can do at home.

    #636193

    In reply to: McCain picks woman vp

    Jenny
    Member

    A post’er above has a good point. So many Republican women with gravitas. Although I really do think there is a very specific anti-establishment point being made here. I bet that McCain made the decision completely on his own, contrary to advice, and said the heck with you all, this gal is close to what I’m all about, and I’m going with her.

    Yep, that’s what I thought as I watched her speech. If her reputation of being a reformer holds up, I think we can see that McCain’s really going to be serious about being a reformer himself.

    <p>I’m not happy about her “let’s expose students to all theories” waffling re: creationism in the schools. Nor her opposition to gay marriage. However, McCain has already been on record as being a federalist WRT gay marriage – IOW he’s against that Constitutional amendment that some theocons wish for. And she never did anything in support of creationism in the schools as governor

    <p>So, I’m willing to be impressed by her. She’s certainly going to be a fighter. :)

    #635514
    JoB
    Participant

    JT..

    there is little evidence to support it’s ineffectiveness either…

    because we haven’t had gun bans in the united states that lasted long enough to change behavior patterns.

    However, it appears the selective bans on guns in our convention centers and sports stadiums and airports are not causing the decline in attendance once predicted… and although tiresome. they do appear to be working.

    So what makes this so different?

    studies.. such as those you cited… can be misleading…

    take the studies now being circulated on red light cameras…

    current studies report that they cause more accidents because of people actually stopping and getting rear ended.

    we won’t know the real effect of red light cameras on accidents at intersections until there are enough of them to produce a change in behavior patterns.

    When there is an expectation again that a red light means the car in front of you will stop, the accidents should decrease… if the cameras stay in place long enough to make an impact on behavior.

    gun bans have to be wide enough and last long enough to cause a change in behavior patterns before we will have the kind of data you think should be in place before a law in enacted.

    We won’t know the true impact until behavioral patterns are changed enough that you can assume the person looking you over from the other side of the street is not carrying a gun.

    laws aren’t passed for the sole purpose of making people think… and i didn’t state or imply that they were. they are enacted to enhance public safety

    however, the mere proposal of this law has created discussion which makes some people think… and that’s a good thing.

    Some don’t.. or won’t. For some people the rhetoric is far more important than any solution..

    and for some the rhetoric is a stalling device… insisting that a perfect solution is proposed is one way to make sure that there is no solution.

    I am not saying that you are one of those people JT.. but we have ample evidence of their effectiveness in the sadly lacking public transportation system in Seattle..

    I don’t think there is much more for me to say here. anyone who could be induced to think further on the subject of gun control by anything i have to say has already chewed this subject and spit it out.. so being solution oriented.. i think i am going to do the same.

    have a great weekend.

    #635885
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Abortion as Birth Control

    Using abortion as birth control means that abortion is being used as a back-up method to ineffective or improperly used contraception, or no contraception is being used at all. Of women having abortions,

    * 46% did not use contraception during the month they became pregnant

    * 8% never used a method of birth control

    * 47% have had at least one previous abortion

    Although there are situations in which abortion is in response to health concerns of the mother or fetus, or in response to pregnancy arising from abuse, the majority of abortions are obtained for social and financial reasons. The primary reasons given for choosing abortion are given below.

    * 75% say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities

    * about 75% say they cannot afford a child

    * 50% do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner

    Using abortion as birth control is not healthy physically or psychologically, and is not a mature or responsible approach to sex. Women obtaining abortions are at higher risk for reproductive tract infections, including HIV and PID. If you are using abortion as birth control, you are encouraged to rethink your sexual decisions. You might wait on sex until you find a relationship where you could continue a pregnancy should one occur.

    Source: AGI, Facts in Brief, Induced Abortion, Revised 1/2008.

    #635884
    charlabob
    Participant

    Abortion is used as a form of birth control far too often. Education is the real tool to win that fight. I educate my daughter and, in effect, am fighting this issue for her.

    I would like to see your evidence of the frequency of use of abortion as birth control. If, in fact, there’s even a slight increase, I think we can attribute it to the ludicrous notion that all we’re allowed to teach is abstinence.

    I agree we should avoid critiquing parenting styles. As a step parent and grandparent, I also recommend we all avoid smug self-satisfaction about the job we’re doing as parents, and extrapolating from that the notion that any problem does not affect us.

    #635512
    charlabob
    Participant

    There is a lot of evidence to indicate the effectiveness of having fewer guns in society. I am less likely to be shot by someone who feels threatened by a leashless dog or a hitchhiker if everyone isn’t running around with concealed weapons. There is even more evidence to indicate that many kinds of guns should not be owned by the general public. Assault weapons?

    It really comes down to what kind of society we want, since this is a societal concern. example).

    Our attraction to gun violence is one of the many things that makes us the outlaw society of the world. I’ve known many foreign exchange students and teachers and tourists from asia and europe who don’t find this cowboy culture at all comforting.

    I will now sit back, sip my tea, and wait for the barrage of “if you don’t like it here, leave” messages. I won’t leave becaue I like it enough to want to improve it.

    Pardon me for combining issues, but I’ve noticed a disturbing increase in the number of postings that critique the style of someone with whom we disagree rather than the substance of the disagreement. “Recipes should be in the recipe thread.” “You combine issues … ”

    We all know that there are factions of disagreements–cults of personality–cliques, even — forums are, after all, reflecftions of society. Diversions about style do not contribute to cogent argument.

    #635882
    JoB
    Participant

    Zenguy,

    the most poor of us all are already affected.

    For them to have abortions, you have to have inexpensive abortion clinics and the insurance risks when a doctor puts their lives and the lives of anyone in their clinic at risk from violence are prohibitive.

    In some states there are no abortion clinics at all.

    in others.. surprisingly well endowed with other medical facilities.. there are one or two in the most urban areas.

    I don’t believe that abortion is covered by public health programs in most states and neither is contraception.

    There are pharmacies where pharmacists refuse to dispense the morning after pill even if you have a prescription.. and countless more where they simply say they are out of stock and it will take a week to order it… making it ineffective.

    Abortion is already out of reach financially for the very poor.. and for those who are simply less affluent and/or don’t have access to an urban clinic as well.

    no joke… and that’s before challenging roe vs wade.

    #635511
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Each time you put forth your opinion, you combine issues. I agree with most everything you just stated and you’re preaching my favorite topic, education. I am focusing on one singular issue. A gun ban. There is no evidence to support it’s effectiveness.

    Passing a law for the sole purpose of making someone think would create a legislative nightmare. I have plenty of things I’d like people to think about. Can I make laws for them too? And how would one go about evaluating if people are obeying these thinking laws? This is crazy 1984 Orwellian policy.

    Now if we just want to make sure everyone is proficient in gun ownership, safety, and use, lets make gun education mandatory for all citizens. You can still chose to not own a gun, but if you do, you will know the benefits and consequences and how to use one properly. Kind of like, oh, I don’t know, condoms and sex education.

    #635879
    Zenguy
    Participant

    And we probably will never have to worry about that here unless they add a constitutional ban, which is unlikely. More likely is that Roe V Wade would be overturned and some states would restrict abortion affecting probably the poor most of all. I think everyone’s daughters deserve the right to choose when faced with that situation.

    #635510
    JoB
    Participant

    JT..

    i want to share something with you that illustrates why i think anything that makes people think about an issue is a good idea.

    Last night i had to run to the store to get a few things for dinner.. ok, it was a bad day and i had to get dinner… and i chose the Roxbury Safeway.

    At I was leaving the checkstand i happened to glance down the line and every customer checking out at that moment was using their own bags.

    This was at the Roxbury safeway where the Seattle ban would have no effect… and yet the conversation generated had clearly had an effect.

    I have been in that store a lot.. and generally speaking i have been the only one bringing my own bags… a novelty that was commented on by the clerks.

    Yet, last night, not only were there several customers with their own bags.. the clerks weren’t commenting.. they were just using the bags.

    the irony is that i was walking out with plastic bags having left my own at home..

    maybe it was the time of day and the kind of shopper who picks up a few things on the way home.. i don’t know.

    but anything which makes people think.. ultimately makes a difference… because people want to do the right thing.

    they just stubbornly don’t want to be told they have to.

    #635509
    JoB
    Participant

    JT…

    i think a good idea is any idea that gets people thinking about what is wrong and how they might move towards making it right..

    and it is clear to me that this idea does that. If nothing more, exploring the options will further clarify our existing law on gun ownership and the right to carry guns into public spaces.

    we have heard the most noise on this thread about the rights of gun owners from people who don’t own guns, weren’t raised with them and know nothing more about the issue than banning them is infringing on someone else’s rights.

    when you look at what is happening with legally licensed guns in this country rationally, you realize that giving someone a gun without teaching them how to use it properly is like turning your teenager loose in an automobile without first training them how to drive it… and then supervising them past the point where they become careless…

    you wouldn’t turn an untrained teenager loose in a car in a public space for some pretty obvious reasons having to do with public safety .. and we shouldn’t be turning untrained people loose with guns in them either for all of the same reasons.

    Nor would you teach a teenager to counter road rage by using his/her car as a battering ram… because it is more likely that they will be the one badly hurt by the confrontation….

    but that is just what most people who carry guns to defend themselves are doing.. engaging themselves in a confrontation they aren’t likely to come out of well… and further endangering innocent bystanders…

    it just doesn’t make rational sense.

    no, we can’t put the gun genie back in the box,

    but we can insist that anyone who owns one uses it in a responsible manner…

    we can pass laws making it more difficult for those who see killing people as the only use for weapons to get their hands on those guns that kill most efficiently

    and we can pass laws making it easier for police to remove existing guns from the hands of those who shouldn’t have them..

    and make it less likely that any gun will be used in confrontations between honest citizens and felons or would be felons in our parks.

    I believe that each and every one of those is a very good idea… but every one of those is fought on the basis of infringing personal rights…

    often by people who wouldn’t own a gun and don’t really understand the responsibilities of gun ownership.

    gun ownership is such a huge responsibility…

    #636180

    In reply to: McCain picks woman vp

    JoB
    Participant

    Let’s see.. a Biden/Palin debate…

    I am afraid i can’t visualize it.. nor i think can anyone else.. so if there is something called a debate for either presidents or vps, it is going to have to be staged entertainment…

    oh yeah.. like they did for little George..

    #635571
    Al
    Participant

    Whoo-boy. Just when I thought I was caught up. Just received this information from SDOT today (I see WSB has it as well) regarding the upcoming start of construction on the ALASKAN WAY Viaduct (as opposed to the Spokane St. Viaduct work). Not sure if the relocation will directly affect traffic patterns yet, but we can only assume “yes.” I noticed on my way home last night that the east parking lot at the corner of Spokane St/Marginal Way was being blacktopped. This is a major staging area for Viaduct work and expect even more traffic in/out of that lot, of which the bike route crosses. Watch out for a.m. traffic around that area Friday, Sept 12th. Here’s what I received:

    WSDOT, King County, and the City of Seattle will break ground on Friday, Sept. 12 for the S. Massachusetts Street to Railroad Way S. Electrical Line Relocation Project. In this project, crews will move power lines now attached to the viaduct to underground locations south of the stadiums. Doing so will better protect the city’s power supply in an earthquake and prepare us to take down the southern mile of the viaduct between S. Holgate and S. King streets starting in 2009. Guest speakers include WSDOT Secretary Paula Hammond and Seattle City Light Superintendent Jorge Carrasco.

    We hope to see you there!

    9 – 10 a.m.

    Friday, Sept. 12

    In the parking lot on the east side of the viaduct, between S. Royal Brougham Way and S. Atlantic Street

    To learn more about the electrical line relocation project, please visit our Web site at: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Projects/Viaduct/electrical.htm

    #635871
    Zenguy
    Participant

    I would love to see what the “mainstream” checklist looks like. Exactly who decides what mainstream is?

    Have you seen the statistics that whites will be the minority by 2050, which is probably when the Republicans will run their first presidential candidate, it only took them twenty-five to run a woman after the Democrats did.

    #636171

    In reply to: McCain picks woman vp

    charlabob
    Participant

    I think Romney would have been a great choice — a proved loser who never saw a lie he couldn’t tell. :-)

    JV, you’re right–I am having too much fun with this announcement — I don’t think we should be smug but I certainly don’t think we should panic. Sometimes a fish is just a fish.

    Just listening to some allegedly democratic woman who thinks Palin will make a difference in her vote. Whew — she just announced that “Of course I’ll vote for Obama — I’m not insane.”

    They find one person and highlight. I haven’t seen an equivalent level of attention paid to the Obamacans — have you? Susan Eisenhower — Lincoln Chaffee.

    Remember, corporate media are, above all *corporate*. Their bias toward repugs shouldn’t be surprising.

    #636136

    In reply to: Obama’s speech

    MissK
    Member

    I felt not only chills watching Barack speak last night, but I actually felt inspired to seek out service opps. After this DNC it solidified my vote for the Obama/Biden ticket.

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