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April 11, 2015 at 10:26 pm #817161
JanSParticipantAre you familiar with this? Does Tim Eyman scare you? Have you signed his petition? Will you? And why?
It would slash the state sales tax by $1 billion a year ($2 billion per biennium) if lawmakers don’t pass a constitutional amendment requiring a two-thirds vote to raise revenue by next April – one year from now.
From the latest PDC report, including the loans he has taken out against his home (which he undoubtedly plans to repay with the help of his new wealthy benefactor Clyde Holland), Eyman has raised close to a million dollars for I-1366. All in just two months!
Here’s a breakdown:
Total Raised in February and March: $898,129.70
Total Spent: $719,401.48 ($700,000 of that on signature gathering)
Cash Contributions: $623,174.66
Debt: $250,000.00 (Eyman’s loans)
Small Contributions: $3,683.00
Not counting the loans, Eyman has now raised over half a million dollars. He received another $100,000 contribution from his new sugar daddy, Vancouver developer Clyde Holland, in early March. He also received contributions of $25,000 and $10,000 from a smattering of other wealthy right wing donors.
Why do Eyman and his wealthy benefactors think voters will go for this? Because the last two times that the two-thirds vote requirement for revenue was on the ballot by itself (2010 and 2012), it passed by huge margins. The progressive community in Washington didn’t organize early or effectively against either of those initiatives.
Blackmail, pure and simple, and in my book will further the budget crises that this state already has…think transportation and infrastructure, to begin with.
Looking for diverse opinions here. Whaddya all think?
April 12, 2015 at 1:48 am #823387
miwsParticipantAre you familiar with this?
No, not really, although I do seem to recall that he announced another initiative a few months ago, so maybe it was this one.
Does Tim Eyman scare you?
No, I don’t let bullies scare me anymore.
However, it scares me that he may once again get enough gullible voters riled up enough to vote for this, and that it may pass.
Have you signed his petition?
No.
Will you?
Oh Helllll No!
And why?
Because, I will never vote Yes on an Initiativeman Initiative, because I love my State, and refuse to be part of his quest to totally destroy its infrastructure.
Mike
April 12, 2015 at 2:15 am #823388
JoBParticipantwhat miws said :)
April 12, 2015 at 2:22 am #823389
JanSParticipant:D
April 12, 2015 at 2:42 pm #823390
SmittyParticipant“Because the last two times that the two-thirds vote requirement for revenue was on the ballot by itself (2010 and 2012), it passed by huge margins. “
Then why the new initiative? I’m confused.
I also LOVE this standard line: “it passed by huge margins. The progressive community in Washington didn’t organize early or effectively “
Whenever a progressive idea passes, the people have spoken and evolved. When a conservative idea passes, the opposition was outspent and/or the proponents lied. Do you guys ever admit that you might be wrong?
April 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm #823391
JoBParticipantsmitty..
do you guys ever admit the harm that has come from Eyman initiatives?
we are currently dealing with the social issues generated by penny wise and pound foolish tax policies…
April 12, 2015 at 3:29 pm #823392
JoBParticipanti looked for outcome measures on Tim Eyman initiatives and found this..
it’s only the record of the success or failure of his initiatives but it would indicate that when it comes to Eyman, Washington voters have learned to beware..
http://ballotpedia.org/Tim_Eyman
and this one is even more brutal
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Tim_Eyman
and then there’s this
what’s to crow about in his record?
April 12, 2015 at 5:19 pm #823393
SmittyParticipantApril 12, 2015 at 8:48 pm #823394
JoBParticipantSmitty..
i have often admitted that i was wrong..
that is.. when i’m wrong :-)
i don’t believe i have been wrong about a Tim Eyman initiative yet ;-) ;-)
April 12, 2015 at 8:52 pm #823395
JoBParticipantbtw Smitty..
i don’t see Tim Eyman initiatives as a Conservative vs Progressive issue.
i see them as a common sense issue.
will the initiative achieve it’s goal?
and … is it legal?
i don’t believe his initiatives pass the common sense standard
even when they have been successful at the ballot box the mainly turn out to be illegal
that’s a huge public expenditure for no gain
and yet, somehow, this waste of public resources drives the legislative agenda in Olympia. It makes no sense to me at all.
April 12, 2015 at 11:04 pm #823396
JanSParticipantsmitty…out of that the only thing you saw was a damned word? Progressive…the opposite is NOT conservative…the opposite is anti-progressive, aka against progress. No opinion about the topic? Why do we even bother? :(
April 17, 2015 at 5:50 am #823397
captainDaveParticipantWhy is reducing sales tax such a bad thing? Reducing sales tax rates help the poor more than the rich.
Someone please explain to me how escalating tax rates will help improve lives more than jobs can?
April 17, 2015 at 4:03 pm #823398
wakefloodParticipantYou’re right, Dave. Sales tax has little to do with quality of life for anyone but the already struggling.
Jobs mean the most and this proposal does nothing to address the issue at hand which is revenue to do what we all want. A functioning infrastructure geared to the 21st century and a high quality education system that’s affordable to all. THAT creates the environment that companies like and the people will continue to flock to.
As usual, Eyman’s initiatives do nothing but dig a deeper hole for the rest of us to dig out of, while making him rich.
April 17, 2015 at 6:44 pm #823399
JanSParticipantbut….but…wake…we want all of those things…we simply do not want to pay for them…let the gov’t. print more money :(
about that paying for education thing….you get what you pay for…sigh
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