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  • #614065

    In reply to: Seattle Freeze

    hopey
    Participant

    Here’s my experience as a transplanted Chicagoan…

    The Seattle Freeze is real. After some discussion with a friend who relocated here from Iowa, we have decided that a lot of it actually results from an overwhelming fear of offending *somebody* by saying *something* wrong. Let me give you a really specific example.

    I am nearly 40 years old and recently had braces put on my teeth. Not a single coworker in my office said ONE WORD when I walked into work the first day I wore braces. No one acknowledged there was *anything* different about me that day, outside of the surreptitious looks and a bit of a startle response the first time I opened my mouth to speak. It was my boss’s boss (who is from the Midwest) who casually remarked, “Oh hey! You got braces! How long will you have them on?” and chatted with me in a friendly way about it. I think the rest of my coworkers were worried that if they acknowledged I had changed anything, I would somehow be offended. Better to not say anything at all.

    This is very different from the Midwest idea, which is that by commenting on changes in appearance, you are showing that you notice — and therefore, you *care*. It is an expression of interest and caring, not an insult or intrusion into an intensely private matter.

    Extrapolate this into the way neighbors and people on the street interact, and you get a “friendliness” which exists on the surface but never delves any deeper. I know it’s not just me, because when I discuss this theory with other transplanted Midwesterners, they agree that I am spot-on. If it were not for my fiance and his circle of friends, I’m convinced I wouldn’t have made a single friend here in Seattle.

    #614061

    In reply to: Seattle Freeze

    swimcat
    Member

    I think people in Seattle do tend to keep a distance from anyone they don’t know well. I don’t know how many people I’ve come across while running through my neighborhood that won’t even look me in the eye when I go past! I’m certainly not scary looking; a younger, fit female in workout clothes, ready with a smile and wave and an out of breath ‘hello’ if I get any sort of look my way. And I’d say 50% of the time the people I pass don’t acknowledge me at all. I don’t think we have that large of a blind, deaf, mute population do we? Or are people just so shy they can’t even smile at a fellow neighbor? I’m extremely shy but make an effort to project warmth and approacability because if no one does, everyone will think this city is unfriendly.

    #614052
    JimmyG
    Member

    A lot of response to this since I left yesterday afternoon.

    I’ve got two words that all of us should keep in mind: “Personal Responsibility. Especially for the now-fired worker and Lattemom.

    Lattemom keeps telling us she didn’t fire the guy, as if this makes it not of her doing. Yet it was only at your impetus (your initial complaint) that he was fired. Yes the worker chose to use foul language, he’s an adult and now he’s paid a very high price for using swear words.

    I’m still waiting though for lattemom (or anyone) to link me to any study which shows the permanent negative effects to a child of hearing swear words from a stranger. Even though that’s not what happened in this case. I also find it interesting how diligent lattemom has been in posting after posting in order to justify her stand.

    What’s that saying about protesting too much?

    #614051
    Franci
    Participant

    Lattemom – I’ve been following this conversation since yesterday. I’ve waited to see how things played out before posting, but I have to say that reading your posts yesterday afternoon, I felt a lot of angry energy coming from you in those posts, simply because people were expressing their own opinions, which don’t happen to be in agreement with yours.

    It sounds like this guy was having a really bad day, made some unfortunate choices, maybe he did or did not deserve what he got, I don’t feel like I’m in a position to make that judgement.

    I do believe that in any given moment people are doing the best they can, and if that was the best he could do in that moment then he was obviously hurting in some way and was in need of compassion from those around him. I completely agree with JT that expressing concern for someone instead of judging them could have brought a completely different outcome.

    #614048
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Lattemom- you keep explaining that you yelled back “nice language” as if that was asking him to stop when in fact you were contributing to his rage. If you felt so strongly about reporting him, just do that instead of inciting him further. Or if you really wished for him to just stop, how about a sincere “are you OK?” That usually jars people out of there trance and maybe you would of genuinely made him reflect on what he was doing. By the title and contents of your first post, what I’m hearing is the hall monitor tattling and hoping we’ll all somehow be proud. Now we’ve got one pissed off dude out there somewhere. I’m worried about who he’s going to take it out on now. Protecting invisible children might be making one at home less safe. That doesn’t mean we should tolerate a free for all in society, but you seem to be more concerned about being right than actually making a difference.

    #613416

    In reply to: WS Rentals

    Sue
    Participant

    I don’t know if it happens here, but in NYC and NJ, I know many people who were evicted for lying about pets that they sneaked in without disclosure. And I saw the stress they’d go through to hide the pets, not let them in the windows, etc. – it’s just not worth it. I always disclose it and if they won’t accept my pet, I move on. One thing I learned back east was that some people simply don’t want pets around and some are just afraid of damage. I’ve offered to pay an extra month’s rent up front in case of potential pet damage, and some will consider it, some will not.

    #613188

    In reply to: Plumber

    JasonParker
    Participant

    We hired Joe The Plumber (206-285-2434) based on advice in an earlier posting (Thanks, JT!). What a great find! Joe fixed a shower valve that I had taken apart and couldn’t replace (doh!). He was very nice, researched it online during the evening at no charge, and fixed the problem. He charged us only half the time he was on site because he couldn’t fix it right away. Now that’s integrity! Joe is very fair, communicates well (not something you always find in your plumbers), pleasant and affordable. Highly recommended!

    #614020
    Erik
    Participant

    Wes –

    No that’s not what I said. If I listen to heavy metal music I’m not then going to go out and kill people…that’s more my point. I can choose how to react. Whereas others that never learned how to modulate their feelings might go out and kill after hearing those lyrics. I know I have a choice in how I’m going to act.

    #614015
    Ken
    Participant

    I am in my 50’s and raised next to an army base. My neighbor was a former drill instructor so I heard a virtuoso in the field at a young age. The Lt Colonel on the other side did a fair job himself when the situation arose.

    Perhaps it made me a bit more tolerant.

    I didn’t seem to effect me or the several thousand kids he was a scoutmaster of.

    The language has changed and continues to change. The current iteration contains dozens of words that were deadly insults and venal sins in ages past.

    However François Rabelais is still funny after 500 years.

    http://psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20040413-000003.html

    Today someone destroyed a mans career and bragged about it on this forum.

    Obscenity is indeed in the eye of the beholder.

    #614013
    Wes
    Member

    So Eric, am I correct in saying that you are of the belief that music and books (just as examples) do not affect people’s behavior or how they percieve things?

    #614009
    Erik
    Participant

    Wes –

    In short, swearing or any other anti-social behaviour that children witness from adults (other than their parents or those they reside with) don’t necessarily have a detrimental affect on them. It all falls back on the limbic relationships the child forms while in their first 5 years of growth. The most important teachers of course are their parents. If the parents do a good job of providing a safe place for the child to explore and nurture their organic learning then they’ll have a strong basis to deal with the outside world. Usually better than the adults they are with, because they’re still in a learning mode. Children are quite adaptable to their environments, just ask all the kids from war-torn areas of the world. As long as they have strong family relationships they’ll learn how to deal with the world as a whole. Adults on the other hand for the most part stopped learning a long time ago and base most of their actions/reactions on the child they once were.

    Listening to types of music or reading certain books aren’t going to turn a person into a decadent, killing, swearing machine unless they were already headed that way…again this falls back on the lack of a solid limbic relationship while growing up.

    As for the guy learning something, he may have, but I doubt it’s what you wish him to learn. He most likely reverted back to a childhood memory of when he was first chastised for doing wrong and became attuned to his feeling of not being accepted.

    As far as changing habits goes, the most efficient means is through observation of one’s movement when you are doing the behaviour (not by thinking). I know this is contrary to what most people think and spout. The reason trying to change one’s thinking is so hard is that you can’t easily measure change in it.

    Before you feel compelled to respond I ask that you notice what happens to your breathing or where you feel the tension building. As humans we have the ability to act, to observe the act, and to refine the action. This is also called maturity.

    #614055
    WSB
    Keymaster

    This is a good one. We drive with our headlights on no matter what time of day, no matter whether it’s sunny, cloudy, etc. Increases visibility and safety.

    #614006
    Wes
    Member

    I wonder if anyone knows how swearing does not affect kids?

    #613891
    swimcat
    Member

    Squareeyes- sorry to say, but good luck with that request (I can’t help but be sarcastic). All-Star won’t lift a finger to make one improvement to that pool. Trust me, I went back and forth with them until I realized nothing would get done because they don’t know what they are doing. I only wish it hadn’t taken me so long to quit that club.

    If you aren’t a confident swimmer, my advice would be to swim at a Seattle City pool where the lifeguards actually watch the pool and the pools are run efficiently and safely. Then if you have problems, they’ll actually be there to help you promptly (I would not be as confident with the guards at All-Star, which is an understatement).

    #613933
    sw
    Participant

    It just so happens that tonight (1/17) is Kindergarten Information Night at Gatewood. If you can make it, there will be administrators, staff and parents in attendance to answer questions. Most of the elementary schools will be doing this, so log onto each one’s website for dates and times – links are on the “Schools” tab at the top of the blog. We’ll also have the same folks at the upcoming fairs at SSCC and the SSD Headquarters.

    #613999
    JanS
    Participant

    I am not going to take sides here…but…maybe there’s something going on in this guy’s personal life that was affecting him? In his marriage? In his kid’s lives? If he has kids, imagine not being able to support them now? Swear words happen…if you don’t like them, then you complain. That’s your choice and your right.Whoever his boss was on this job should have been contacted first(actually, he should have been on top of it before you were ever involved)…did you think about that? There must have been a supervisor there. They could have nipped it in the bud right then, and not sent this man into the unemployment world. This is not a perfect world, and some of the people that your children run into will undoubtably do things that affect them one way or another. How you raise them in your home makes the difference.

    Denigrating another person on here because they disagree with you isn’t exactly good form. We all have our opinions…that’s what makes this forum so great. I saw no anger in JimmyG’s disagreement with what you did….just another way of looking at things….no need to call him a jerk…

    #613829

    In reply to: Nearest E.R.??

    hopey
    Participant

    D.J., do you have any opinions on the care and treatment quality at Highline? I moved to WS about ~6 months ago, and am looking at a primary care physician who is at Highline. But there seems to be SUCH a bias towards Swedish here that it’s making me skittish.

    I realize you may not be able to speak to “everyday” physicians, but if you had a non-life-threatening case and traffic wasn’t an issue, in an ideal world which ER would you choose?

    Thanks in advance…

    #613969

    In reply to: Motels

    Sue
    Participant

    When a friend of mine came last year, she stayed downtown at The Moore Hotel – http://www.moorehotel.com/ – and really liked it. The rooms were under $100 and it was really convenient to get around from there. The rooms are very basic and functional – nothing fancy, but it was clean and the staff was very nice. It has generally good reviews on Trip Advisor as well: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60878-d100544-Reviews-Moore_Hotel-Seattle_Washington.html

    #613465
    Ken
    Participant

    http://www.northwestradio.net/interceptnw/

    Seattle uses trunked. digital and in many cases switches to cell for supervisor calls and “sensitive” traffic.

    I don’t have a scanner at the moment but trunked scanners can get pretty expensive last time I checked. Some interface with a pc to match up both sides of a conversation.

    http://www.usascan.com/files/scancat2.html

    Info specific to King county is localized here:

    http://www.northwestradio.net/interceptnw/king.htm

    These are trunkgroups rather than specific frequencies.

    Seattle (Seattle simulcast)

    3216 SPD Citywide ATG (patch ID?)

    3248 SPD West

    3280 SPD North

    3312 SPD South

    3344 SPD East

    3408 SPD Data

    3440 SPD Tac 1

    3472 SPD Tac 2

    3504 SPD Tac 3

    3536 SPD Tac 4

    3568 SPD Event 1

    3600 SPD Emergency

    3632 SPD East Tac

    3664 SPD South Tac

    3696 SPD North Tac

    3728 SPD West Tac

    3760 SPD Inv Tac 1

    3792 SPD Inv Tac 2

    3824 SPD Ctr 1

    3856 SPD Ctr 2

    3888 SPD Cmd 1

    3920 SPD Cmd 2

    3952 SPD Cmd 3

    3984 SPD Cmd 4

    4016 SPD Cmd 5

    4048 SPD Cmd 6 Harbor Ptrl

    4080 SPD Narc 1

    4112 SPD Narc 2

    4144 SPD Narc 3

    4176 SPD NTF

    4208 SPD Vice 1

    4240 SPD Vice 2

    4336 SPD Emer Rsp Team 1

    4368 SPD Emer Rsp Team 2

    4400 SPD Hostage Neg 1

    4432 SPD Hostage Neg 2

    4464 SPD Internal Invest

    Details on just what a trunked system is and is not can be found here.

    http://strongsignals.net/access/content/new_user.html#SEC12

    #613863

    In reply to: School Donations…..

    Slider
    Participant

    Your school is lucky to have you! The book cases should be easy and free! The district has a surplus website that the school staff has access to. They can either shop off the website for book cases, or call surplus directly (you must be a district employee to do both). Shopping off the website may take a long time, our PTA ordered book shelves in October and they weren’t delivered until April. I’m told calling directly with your pleas for supplies gets faster action. Good Luck, there should be tons of surplus with all the schools that have been closed.

    #613929
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I would suggest going to the School fair at SSC, as well as making a persoal visit to the schools you are interested in and maybe take your children there. When it was time to enroll our daughter in kindergarten I just called the school spoke with the principals and made some visits with my daughter with me. Sine she was the one that would be attending one of these schools it was important that she feel comfortable and familiar with the school. We were able to observe afew different classrooms at different school, meet the principal, office staff and the teachers. It made going to school on that first day less nerve racking for our child.

    Right now I believe we still have reference schools, meaning you have priority to our neighborhood, but going out of your reference area you might not always find room for your children. Our daughters class at Roxhill has just 18 students and I hear from a friend who’s child attend LaFayette there are 30 kids in her sons class!!

    #613928
    karen
    Participant

    My son is at Gatewood and I am VERY happy there. We have some a little bouncing around because there are some special needs that need to be met. I feel very welcome there, parents are welcome to come in and work in the class. The staff respects my child as a person and works with him to help him achieve his potential. One of the best things is that there is a respect for the child. Children are invited to attend the conferences (if the parent wishes) to talk about their strengths and goals. There is no feeling of negativity, only a willingness to help the child succeed.

    Good Luck.

    #613900

    In reply to: House Cleaning

    cheyenne
    Member

    Me! Me! Oh please pick me! I am affordable, reliable, and love to clean houses, I was just about to put an ad out. I get off work early afternoons, and need the extra green stuff. We should get together on this but how?

    #613925
    WSB
    Keymaster

    Steve – more and more, each school has a special area of emphasis or a special feature, even at the elementary level. So you’ll want to ask about that, depending on what your little ones’ interests are evolving toward. We were just up covering a story at Pigeon Point Park next to Cooper Elementary, for example, last week, and were learning about the environmental/art special offerings there. Our son attended Lafayette for three years and we were greatly impressed with the principal, teachers, staffers, and parent commitment. In our role as WSB editor, we have met and corresponded with people from many schools around West Seattle, all of whom have a passion for and devotion to their schools. I hope more of them will find this thread in the coming days and tell you about the schools they know best!

    #613679

    In reply to: HR 888

    Ken
    Participant

    What are you babbling about?

    Are you arguing that

    “all Americans during the Revolutionary War were (the) virtuous, Christian citizens”?

    Come up with some facts of your own if so. I have an entire card catalog of history texts as well as dedicated rooms of revolutionary period pamphlets and broadsheets in the Widner Library at Harvard, or the Dunster House Library at Harvard that indicate otherwise. I cannot afford to have the whole library copied, but if you were to even bother with a credible defense of your view, (and I could figure out what exactly that view is) I could have a friend in Cambridge go in and scan a randomly chosen month of publication which would disprove the theory of all innocent pious citizens.

    Are you disputing that William Federer, Tim LeHaye or David Barton are not proven liars and quote manglers by the documents they themselves often cite? Do you need a breakdown of each and every occasion? I could probably do that with google and nothing but links in a couple of hours, but why should I? You’re obviously not interested in the empirical truth when it conflicts with you “faith based logic”. Besides I figure if you were really interested in the real history and how it compares with the revisionism of the above named stooges, you would have ordered the book by now.

    Or is this just another example of faiths triumphant victory over facts by virtue of the readers simply disbelieving the facts?

    Ah well.

    No doubt Age of Reason has been hard on many Christians and Huckabee is promising to do away with it just as soon as we elect him President.


    “I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do, to amend the Constitution so it’s in God standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family. “

    — Mike Huckabee, Jan 14th 2008

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onHkywYc_1M

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