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[MarkAngello]

Job===but this isn’t exactly a free speech issue is it?

Sure it is. That’s what the Supreme Court ruled. Religious indoctrination is protected free speech.

Job=== this is introducing religious education into our public school setting under the guise of social programs.

Yes, its both, right? I mean private free speech social programs can also be religious. This is not government speech but private citizen speech. That makes it constitutional for parents who want religious-based social instruction after school hours.

Job==the very fact that a parent can not obtain a syllabus of the instruction makes any consent they might give uninformed….

I think that applied only to a local group formed to fight CEF. They wanted to censor CEF or ban it, so no wonder CEF would refuse. You can find out what they do by visiting a club at another school system or asking them online.

Job== which infringes on parental rights in a big way.

Good point! Sorry, but I don’t know the legal definition of a parent’s ‘right’ in this matter. How much information does a parent need? The takehome permission slip says it is has Bible verses and is religious. I’d like that for my kids to build moral character, but that’s my personal response.

[JoB]

HMCRich..

1..that is what you call harassment? boy that labeling gig really works well.

so… non harassment would have been listening reverently and agreeing with everything the man had to say?

2. can’t get there from here right now. just as well

3. you are aware that the public sector unions have conceded to every point Gov Walker and the republicans in the legislature asked for except making it illegal for the union to collectively bargain for public sector employees.

This isn’t about the fiscal emergency Gov Walker created… it is about breaking the unions so Wisconsin jobs can be outsourced.

the state court of Wisconsin has just ruled that his last union breaking stint for the state was illegal. that little outsourcing move will cost the state of Wisconsin half a mil for each of the security workers who were fired by his last illegal union breaking move…

and you think the democrats should come home and take their licks?

no need for integrity here.. winner take all?

if we follow that money trail the winner who takes all are the Koch brothers who fund the tea party…

hmmmmmmm…. ?

[DP]

Oh, those slings.

Oh, those arrows.

[sydney]

Thanks Zenguy, JoB and redblack, for defending me! Also I used to do union construction and worked with guys who listened to Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern every day. I couldn’t understand their position since they benefited so directly from union activity.

I have found in so many cases, where there is a stepping backward from progress, it is due to a single man and his cronies. Bill Bennett, Reagan’s Secretary of Education, personally killed Civics classes which might have helped our younger generations understand the importance of being informed, instead of what they got (a lot of ‘greed is good’, Randian BS from the mainstream media, with which they were ill-equipped to deal). Way back when, it was Harry J. Anslinger who demonized hemp for the cotton, petroleum, tobacco and alcohol industries. McCarthy and his disastrous anticommunist campaign polarized us and forever left ‘socialism’ with an evil taint, undeservedly. Extreme capitalism a la Greenspan is just as bad as communism, leading to the destruction of the middle class and eventually either revolt or fascism, or simply a whole lotta poor people! Reagan mumble Bush grumble grr Gingrich Palin Bachmann (pardon me while I drink a virtual martini).

[redblack]

But, the Wisconsin legislators who cut and ran, have made their point, allowing the unions to fight this and make a stand. Now it is time for them to take their medicine. To not come back soon would be anti-american and selfish. They are elected representatives and need to do their job, even if it hurts. In two years the citizens of Wisconsin can vote in new reps and in four years a new governor if they want.

you understand that if the wisconsin 14 come back, the senate goes into session, and they vote on passage of this bill, right? and that its passage is assured if there’s a vote, right? and that the bill means the effective end to collective bargaining, right?

It is just kind of strange that when the shootings in AZ happened, Civility was called for.

i’ve never not wished for civil discourse. but for so long, the right has pushed the left into a corner, hurled insults, and let the religious gun nuts make all the insinuations that they want about gays and liberals and women and minorities.

so i hope you’ll excuse me if i want to push you back into the center of the room – where facts trump distortions and spin – before i take a conciliatory tone.

it doesn’t mean i can’t be civil; but it does mean that if i’m shoved, i might take a proverbial swing at you. (or maybe even if i’m just speaking up for someone who can’t or won’t speak up for himself.)

[HMC Rich]

Since I vote more conservative, I am generally less inclined to support the Public Sector Unions. The Right Wingers are pulling out FDR’s view of Public Unions. Here within this link are FDR’s words and some history. http://www2.hernandotoday.com/content/2010/oct/17/ha-fdrs-warning-public-employee-unions-a-no-no/

Here is a link from Real Clear Politics from one of the articles from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal relating to FDR also: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/02/19/the_ghost_of_fdr_is_smiling_on_wisconsins_governor_108962.html

There are two sides or more to every story. I also saw anti-conservative information while finding these links. Right now I am proud that my wife’s “private” union told the ownership group to kiss off. They are being unreasonable and without representation in her industry the management would run roughshod over the employees. Not all companies are as cut throat either.

But, the Wisconsin legislators who cut and ran, have made their point, allowing the unions to fight this and make a stand. Now it is time for them to take their medicine. To not come back soon would be anti-american and selfish. They are elected representatives and need to do their job, even if it hurts. In two years the citizens of Wisconsin can vote in new reps and in four years a new governor if they want.

I know Walker has an agenda. So does our President. We each have to take what we perceive as the good and the bad.

[redblack]

sydney: rich is a union member. how’s that for irony?

smitty: the only option the dems in WI had – in order to not allow an end to collective bargaining – was to not allow a quorum.

period.

compare it to a filibuster if you want, but that’s a false analogy, and you know it.

a better analogy would be the majority party ending the filibuster, aka the nuclear option.

but neither analogy describes how legislators are taking rights away from the citizenry who elected them, no matter what party they adhere to.

the only question that needs to be answered is: “do we, the people, have a right to organize on our own behalf?”

i await your answer. debate me on the other points, but i respectfully request a direct answer to the above question.

[JoB]

smitty…

if the legislators in Wisconsin could have filibustered they would not have had to leave the state to forestall a vote.

[sun*e]

@365Stairs – So how long have you worked there? ;-) Seriously, I really don’t want them to be torn down just spruced up and more presentable looking… didn’t know it was really too much to hope for.

[Zenguy]

DP, seriously?

The Republicans are not interested in listening to ANYONE’S opinion, including Republicans. The elected officials on the right are only in this for one thing, themselves.

I personally have participated in many marches, registered people to vote, written articles on politics in the Times and I communicate with my representatives on a regular basis.

What are you doing to educate the Republicans on your views? And you cannot tell me with you agree with everything the Republicans support any more than I agree with everything the Democrats support.

[mcveighgroup]

Looking for something to do tomorrow night? Come down to the Bamboo Bar and Grill to see Jonny Durango’s first “SHOW” as a band!

NO COVER!!!! Free show, great drinks, amazing food, good people! Jonny Durango (soon to have a band name) is Evan on piano/guitar/lead vocals, Parker Lundgren (from Queensryche!) on guitar, and Jevon Wussler on drums/percussion/vocals!

Come hang out for some good food, drinks, and music featuring originals and some dope covers!

Come down for a great time on the beach starting at 9pm!

http://www.bamboobarandgrill.com

[datamuse]

We’ve never consciously divided our chores, but quite a few of them are split; we each clean our own bathroom and do our own laundry. When we cook together (2-3 times a week) we share cleanup, otherwise, it’s whoever gets to it first, which winds up being fairly equitable.

I hate mowing, so he gets to do that. We both hate vacuuming but I do it because I hate dirty floors more.

I was going to say that he does the garbage, but actually that’s split as well because he always forgets the bathroom cans so I do those.

[sydney]

@ HMC Rich: The Tea Party is an astroturf movement with billionaire, exteme-rightwing nutjobs (the sons of one of the founders of the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY, for heaven’s sake!!!) funding AND founding it. They started it from the ground, zero, zilch, nothing. They fly/bus people as needed all over the country. Their goal: the destruction of the middle class through the undoing of the New Deal. Can you dispute this? And please, before you answer, think about what their success would eventuate for YOU.

The Wisconsin protests are absolutely critical to the survival of the middle class in the entire USA, if not the world. We’re in the struggle of a lifetime, and if we lose, our children will be serfs…and you and I will eat catfood.

Personally, I’m horrified whenever anyone defends the Tea Party in general. Now understand this: the poor deluded people in the Tea Party have grievances which are identical to mine, it’s just that they don’t know the causes of the problems they’re complaining about. They have drunk the Koolaid that Fox News sets out for them and now believe the government–their protector and their own representation–is against them. The problem is that for the last ten, eleven years, ALL the major news stations have pushed ‘patriotism’ over anti-war sentiment, beating less imperialistic forces back and drowning out progressive voices. So, the people who would benefit most from voting ‘progressive’ are conned into believing that somehow progressives are anti-American and poor people are causing the country to go broke.

Hey, you tend to go broke when your job goes away, you can’t find another; your medical costs go sky-high because we’re not using a single-payer system; and they take your Social Security away??

And somehow, anti-communism morphed first into anti-islam, now anything vaguely socialized is demonized by the right, to the point where everything we got from the labor movement is rapidly being stolen from our sleeping fingers. Remember the 40 hour workweek? Gone. The right to negotiate pay and benefits through unions is also under attack, and since unions are the single largest supporter of Democrats, the rightwing is taking even our choice of representation.

Does anyone remember Phil Donahue and how his show was cancelled despite its high ratings? That was the rightwing controlling the ‘liberal’ media. All you had to say was ‘AntiAmerican!’ and poof! there go the few progressive voices, silenced from mainstream TV.

Somehow people forgot WalMart used to brag about “made in USA”, and made to believe buying cheap would help them get that American dream.

Welcome to my handbasket!

[Seattle_Rose]

I think Uncle Mike’s BBQ is thoroughly mediocre. When I went there with my husband, most of the foods were reheated. Our cornbread had a plastic wrap around it & obviously just came from the microwave. I ordered the fried chicken & it was so salty that I couldn’t eat very much of it. And this is coming from someone who LOVES fried chicken.

It’s truly unfortunate because we really wanted to like them & see a successful BBQ joint in the neighborhood. However, I really can’t see myself going back there. Been hearing a lot of good things about Morning Star Deli, so will have to give them a try.

[Rod Clark]

There’s something interesting going on in the wake of today’s Seattle Times’ story, “Financial Scandal Hits Seattle Schools.”

In comments on the story about this over at the Seattle Public Schools Community Blog, people have been spontaneously expressing support for Phil Brockman as Seattle’s next school superintendent.

Years ago, when I substituted for a little while at West Seattle High, I was enormously impressed with Brockman, and believe that if enough people support this the entire school district would benefit.

[redblack]

sneaky: the wisconsin legislation in question, requested by walker himself, also allows wisconsin’s power supply to be privatized.

i don’t hear anyone in the media talking about that.

[inactive]

It’s a little bit of magic, to me, to walk at night with everything blanketed in snow, or open the blinds in the morning to an all white world from a cozy warm home. Simple pleasures that are infrequent, really.

I know it can be a legitimate hassle after a couple of days for some folks, but I think it’d be a pity to not take some enjoyment from it. It can be challenging to deal with over extended periods, but I kind of like having to buck up to such challenges periodically. Keeps me on my toes. Stretches me. But, I know that it’s easy for me to say, perhaps, because I don’t have to commute. But I use to. I just think it’s really pretty and a gift that is usually fleeting.

[JayDee]

I am of two minds — I attended UW-Madison and the light that snow makes is special–it is of a peculiar and singular kind. I like seeing the Alki Alps draped in white.

I dislike the unreliable Metro Mystery Bus Challenge and the idea I may have to walk home six miles from work. I don’t like snow-clogged roof gutters that will flood the basement temporarily (1996). I don’t like taking vacation days because of these two things. So I generally growl “Effing Snow!” and try and enjoy the light since I have no choice.

[funkietoo]

Grew up in Seattle and love the snow. We would go out an sled for hours ‘n’ hours! My mom and I were always left with the worst sled, but we made the best of it and would laugh everytime we crashed. Got to miss school (even though we had to make it up in June, we didn’t care). Snow Angels. Snow ball fights. Building snow igloos. Catching snowflakes on our tongues. Making milkshakes from snowflakes–they weren’t great, but we loved them.

Snow is beautiful to watch. It slows us down…which is not a bad thing. And it rarely lasts more than a couple of days. Have you ever been to the Beveridge Place Pub on a snow day? It’s mood is even better than ever; cross county skis are outside by the door; everyone is bundled up; chatty; happy.

Oh…and yes, I still drive to work as I have an all wheel drive, 5-speed vehicle that putters on down the road.

[Sue]

Whenever there’s snow in the forecast, there will be a handful of people (like me) who live in dread and profess their ultimate snow hatred, and then there are the people who are jumping up and down like a kid on a snow day, excited about the snow.

I’m curious: for the people who get excited about it, do you all work from home (or not at all) and don’t have to be anywhere? Do you have companies that close down at the slightest snow so you don’t have to commute? (My company wouldn’t close unless the building fell down, so I always have to be there (unless I call in sick).)

It just seems to me that with snow (of whatever amount) come the bus troubles, the road and commute is a mess, the roads get icy/slick for walkers, and don’t even get me started on the hills. I’m not saying anybody’s right or wrong here, and don’t want to get into any fights about snow vs. no snow – I’m just curious how so many could love the city snow so much if they actually had to commute in it. Thoughts?

[JoB]

DP…

i particularly like this quote..

“”a circular instrument placed upon the noses of hogs and the fingers of women to restrain them and bring them into subjection.”

“The bigger and heavier the circlet, the bigger and better the standing of the wedded pair.”

Home

from wiki we learn that wedding rings weren’t typically worn by men until the 20th century and that diamonds weren’t typically part of an engagement (betrothal) ring until the 1930s

the engagement ring belongs to the man until the marriage is legal.. they are the one exception in the laws covering the giving of gifts..

“In some states of the United States, engagement rings are considered “conditional gifts” under the legal rules of property. This is an exception to the general rule that gifts cannot be revoked once properly given”

a man identifies a woman as promised to him by placing his property on her finger…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engagement_ring

i could go on and on..

the history of weddings, betrothals, gifts, dowry’s and property laws is endlessly fascinating to me.. and a real revelation to most young women who consider themselves beyond all of that ancient history…

so… who is shallow here?

the man who purchases the ring ..

which belongs to him even though he gave it to her

or the woman who appreciates it?

personally.. i’m with charla.

i would have preferred a car.

with clear title..

[F16CrewChief]

When I was younger, we had two hidden BMX tracks we used almost on a daily basis.

The first track was in the woods next to Bon Air. I remember an old abandoned car off the bike trail. If I remember right, it was a VW Bug. The BMX track itself was a one-way track. It had a couple moguls on the top part of the track, right before a big drop off that led you down to the next jump. The next jump was actually the only jump and it was pretty big for 10 and 11 year olds. The track finished with a little burm to slow you down. Had a blast there. I drove up Bon Air a while back and it looked like they made an urban trail there.

The second track we had was in the woods at the bottom of Jefferson, near Beach Drive. We called this track, “Circle 8”. We spent most of our time here. We modified the track constantly. There was also a big rope swing up the trail from the track that we’d spend countless hours horsing around on. Good times.

I have to say though, my friends and I didn’t make either one of these tracks. We just found out about them through other BMXers.

Whenever we’d travel between Bon Air and Circle 8, we’d always stop at the little corner market on Beach Drive that’s now a little park. Summers back then sure did seem endless.

[redblack]

one other thing (okay, maybe 12): if it’s “smart” to always take the low bid for infrastructure projects, why do we, as a city, have to fund the most expensive project put before us?

why, yes, it is a state highway. if voters statewide rejected an income tax that wouldn’t affect them, i seriously doubt that they would vote to fund this tunnel – or vote for the tolls.

i hear what you’re saying, though, jo, and the AWV stakeholders are attempting to be the agency that makes the tough decision for the greater transportation good. but they’re choosing the most expensive option that benefits the fewest people and puts the greatest amount of cost on the taxpayers’ shoulders. while i agree that seattle needs a transportation czar to remove much of the decision-making from public purview, i don’t think the AWV stakeholders are working in the city’s best interest here.

the next question i ask of a public official, though, is how businesses like calportland, cadman, and waste management will be tolled for tunnel use. i think there needs to be a higher toll for those businesses.

[redblack]

the whole tunnel thing reminds me of safeco field.

“oh. voters don’t want a stadium. hmm. well, let’s just have them pay for it a different way.”

say wha?

only in this case, after two of eight possible replacement options went down to defeat because of a stupidly-worded ballot initiative, they put together a panel of AWV “stakeholders” whose only interest is to see a tunnel bored. somehow a panel of 15 or so people get to decide how the state spends its money? who picked that panel?

let’s also not forget that the city and state drug their feet on replacing AWV for seven years after the nisqually quake. it wasn’t until the governor threatened to tear it down and replace it with nothing that someone decided that it was an urgent matter.

well, whatever. they get the tunnel, we get the shaft. and the bill for cost overruns. and tolls.

so i gotta ask wslifer: who’s “we?” are you a stakeholder? is that you, mr. rasmussen?

[SpeakLoud]

My sister, her partner and their 1 yr old son are coming into town for one week in March. I’m looking for a nice West Seattle house/apt for them. Must be pet/smoke free as she has allergies. Any thoughts-and yes I have checked Craigslist-thankyou.