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[sbre]

A similar innocent happened to me one morning (5:50 am) on the way to work going east on Admiral just prior to heading down hill towards the bridge, however on this stretch of Admiral there is no street parking.

Using the mirror attached to my glasses I constantly monitor the traffic coming from behind as to save me the surprise of their passing. An older, gold/copper colored Subaru wagon was traveling significantly faster in the right lane than all the cars in the left, my thought (and hope) was its driver was going to make a last second swerve into the left lane. Not so.

With my tires riding as close to the curb as I can get my elbow was smacked by the side mirror as the car passed, thankfully the mirror was a folding type which absorbed most of the energy of the impact and probably saved me from suffering a shattered elbow.

I was able to maintain control of my bike and come to a stop, which was a good thing as she immediately slammed on her brakes, flung the door open and was swearing at me like a drunken teenage sailor for striking her car as she passed.

Of course she wasn’t having anything to do with my side of the story, only worrying about any damage to her car (which appears to have the rear-end being held in place by all the bumper-stickers affixed to it) and not to me. Sadly none of the other drivers stopped, which brought on the thought of hitting her as hard as her car hit me, but the little angle on my shoulder that happens to look just like my mom reminded me how much of a gentleman I am (damn you mother!).

She ended up loosing more time during our ‘conversation’ than she would have if she would have slowed down enough to safely pass.

[JoB]

kootchman…

i have no animus towards faith…

i have an animus towards con-men who try to indoctrinate children in a particular belief system without their parent’s informed consent.

Don’t you think you might want to know exactly what your child was being taught if you chose to allow them to attend a religion class?

In the United States, Christianity has as many flavors as Slurpees… and they don’t all agree with one another.

I don’t have an issue with the legality of the class..

but i do have an issue with the lack of disclosure so that parents can make informed choices.

And i have to ask… even though i agree with you that the number of parents sending their kids to private schools erodes the funding for public education…

what does this class have to do with that?

This organization is not funding public schools…

they are taking advantage of space at a public school to run a religious indoctrination program.

They are not teaching reading or writing or math or civics or even critical thinking…. to imply that they add to the outcome measures for students in public education would be a stretch at best.

[JoB]

MarAngelo…

i speak to you about morals .. what you think is right

you speak back with law… what you can get away with

re: religious indoctrination:

“As for using that phrase in take home permission slips, there is no rule that requires a religous club to claim it “indoctrinates” instead of the word “teaches.” “

“The US Supreme Court disagrees with your assessment. Children are quite capable of making up their own minds about religious matters and about deciding for themselves. The US Supreme Court ruled that proselytism of school children is constitutional.”

And parents should trust the moral education of their children to a program that promotes these values?

Uh.. no.

You think it’s moral to masquerade a class whose sole purpose is religious indoctrination as bible stories to parents who believe their children are protected from that kind of indoctrination in their schools by law.

Your lack of honesty in refusing to make the curriculum public indicates that you are well aware many parents would not give consent if they understood the content of the instruction.

That is classic uniformed consent.

We require public programming that accesses our children through the media to disclose content so parents can make choices that they feel are appropriate for their child’s development.

Every television in every home has an off switch and a parent who gets to decide just how much advertising and adult content their children watch.

Without disclosure..

where is your off switch?

[Muddy Girl]

I am not sure where to post this so I will put it here unless I am instructed otherwise. We just witnessed what appeared to be a peeping Tom or a prowler (or maybe just a man spying on something he was interested in). Anyway this happened in the alley behind our house which would be on the West side of 26th Avenue SW that connects with Roxbury. The man appeared to be Asian and he was wearing blue jeans and a yellow jacket. He was right up against the bushes looking at the apartments that are across the alley from my back yard. He was very intent in getting a good angle, and even repositioned himself several times. He would occasionally look around nervously, as if he was checking to see if anyone was watching him. When he spotted us looking at him, he left VERY quickly down the alley walking towards Safeway. We were just in the process of calling the police when he left. Just wanted to give a heads up in case someone lives in the apartments he was looking at! Creepy!!!

[JoB]

Today i received another round of emails from the democrat party pleading that i donate today to forestall another Republican victory.

For no special reason.. today was the day i wrote them back and said.. show us some love if you want my cash.

I have faithfully supported my party with votes, donations and activism.. not to mention my consistent voice… only to see them compromise away the party platform chasing poll results and that illusive swing vote.

If they want my money they need to show democrats some love.

Right now the Republican led House is passing legislation that will destroy the safety net that our citizens desperately need right now all in the name of fiscal responsibility.

They say we all have to tighten our belts… denying food and medical care to children while funding NASCAR.

There is no better time to send the Democrats a message. If the republicans are going to win every point anyway.. the Democrats are redundant… and i don’t fund redundant.

There is no better time to send the party the message that we expect them to pay attention to their base if they expect us to support them. They have a unique opportunity to send their base the message that they hear them by soundly gutting every Republican assault on the citizens of the United States.

The blackmail game they have been playing.. that the big bad Republicans will take over if we don’t support them.. is at an end for me.

I sent my letters to the DNC and Parry Murray as she is their new head of fundraising campaign.

I don’t know if this will make a difference.

But i do know that we won’t get anything unless we stand up and make some demands now.

[MarkAngello]

Job==you said it all when you called it religious indoctrination… how many permission slips do you think would come back if that phrase were used as the purpose of the group?

I called it religious indoctrination instead of religious training so I could make it as extreme as possible and still show that the afterschool club is legal. I did it for effect to make the point that proselytism is constitutional if that’s what the after school club does. So what?

As for using that phrase in take home permission slips, there is no rule that requires a religous club to claim it “indoctrinates” instead of the word “teaches.” So what? They are not required to meet a different standard than any other after school club.

If the government school board held religious clubs to a different standard from non-religious clubs, then the courts would strike that law as unconstitutional. I like free speech. Free Speech Rulz! This is a freedom of speech issue.

The CED club has a right to be there. I don’t object. They compete for the hearts and minds of students the same as any other club and on the same terms. Evidently most parents don’t mind a religious school club, since religious clubs are still active all over the country. I am happy with the law and the constitution.

I would sign up my children because I love them. I want them to enjoy their faith and tell other students about how they can too. That also is protected free speech and good for children.

[Pibal]

Ahhh bummer…

It is often stated that the phrase originated from the use of a brass tray, called a “monkey”, to hold cannonballs on warships in the 16th to 18th centuries. Supposedly, in very cold temperatures the “monkey” would contract, causing the balls to fall off.[7] However, nearly all historians and etymologists consider this story to be an urban legend. This story has been discredited by the U.S. Department of the Navy,[8] etymologist Michael Quinion, and the Oxford English Dictionary (OED).[9]

They give five main reasons:

1.The OED does not record the term “monkey” or “brass monkey” being used in this way.

2.The purported method of storage of cannonballs (“round shot”) is simply false. Shot was not stored on deck continuously on the off-chance that the ship might go into battle. Indeed, decks were kept as clear as possible.

3.Furthermore, such a method of storage would result in shot rolling around on deck and causing a hazard in high seas. Shot was stored on the gun or spar decks, in shot racks—longitudinal wooden planks with holes bored into them, known as shot garlands in the Royal Navy, into which round shot were inserted for ready use by the gun crew.

4.Shot was not left exposed to the elements where it could rust. Such rust could lead to the ball not flying true or jamming in the barrel and exploding the gun. Indeed, gunners would attempt to remove as many imperfections as possible from the surfaces of balls.

5.The physics does not stand up to scrutiny. The contraction of both balls and plate over the range of temperatures involved would not be particularly large. The effect claimed possibly could be reproduced under laboratory conditions with objects engineered to a high precision for this purpose, but it is unlikely it would ever have occurred in real life aboard a warship.

…and…

From

DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY — NAVAL HISTORICAL CENTER

805 KIDDER BREESE SE — WASHINGTON NAVY YARD

WASHINGTON DC 20374-5060:

It has often been claimed that the “brass monkey” was a holder or storage rack in which cannon balls (or shot) were stacked on a ship. Supposedly when the “monkey” with its stack of cannon ball became cold, the contraction of iron cannon balls led to the balls falling through or off of the “monkey.” This explanation appears to be a legend of the sea without historical justification. In actuality, ready service shot was kept on the gun or spar decks in shot racks (also known as shot garlands in the Royal Navy) which consisted of longitudinal wooden planks with holes bored into them, into which round shot (cannon balls) were inserted for ready use by the gun crew. These shot racks or garlands are discussed in: Longridge, C. Nepean. The Anatomy of Nelson’s Ships. (Annapolis MD: Naval Institute Press, 1981): 64. A top view of shot garlands on the upper deck of a ship-of-the-line is depicted in The Visual Dictionary of Ships and Sailing. New York: Dorling Kindersley, 1991): 17.

[transplantella]

I just went to put out the trash and slid down the sidewalk.

It looked wet. It’s a frozen glaze of black ice.

Beware.

[Ken]

We ignore what the Bible says about slavery. We ignore what the Bible says about women. We ignore what the Bible says about executing women on their wedding nights if they’re not virgins. We ignore what the Bible says about lobster and polyester and farming and everything else. We have to learn to ignore what the Bible says about homosexuality. The Bible got slavery wrong. Something as easy and obvious as slavery. Wrong. Jesus Christ: blah blah blah, sermon on the mount, you can’t shut that guy up. Not a word about slavery. All the “thou shalt nots” in the Ten Commandments, blah blah blah, thou shalt not… How about thou shalt not own other people? No, the Bible explicitly endorses slavery. The easiest moral question that there is, the Bible got wrong. If the Bible got slavery wrong, what are the odds that the Bible got something as complicated as human sexuality wrong? 100%.

— Dan Savage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ky5Jwi4-3o

MarkAngello: You have not been insulted yet. Your ideas have been questioned. Drop a few more easily debunked “xtian facts” and see what develops.

The question was rhetorical. Fundamentalist of all religions are insane. I was asking if you were one. Biblical literalism is a symptom as is compartmentalization of opposing facts so a constructed reality becomes unassailable.

Are you also an authoritarian follower?

http://homepage.mac.com/chriswjohnson/automatons/rwa-scale.xhtml

[yes2ws]

Hmm.. can’t help but wonder; if the list had said,

Laundry is split 70/30 me.

Dishwasher duties split 70/30 her.

Garbage 95/5 her.

Lawn 90/10 her.

Vacuum 90/10 me.

Tidying up 95/5 her.

Deep clean 95/5 me.

Dinner 60/40 me.

Breakfast/Kids ready.100/0 her.

would we be hearing, “What??” “You mean to tell me you think this is equal when SHE is having to do the dishes? Don’t you know that means pots & pans, etc.?” “Do you think that’s EASY compared to putting items in a washing machine and dryer?” “Where’s the scrubbing action in THAT scene?”

“And what do you mean, SHE has to do all of the household trash AND keep up with the lawn [outside in the elements] while you get to stay inside and push a vacuum cleaner around?”

“And don’t even get me started on DAILY tidying-up while you deep clean periodically.”

“And to top it all off, are you seriously saying that all you have to do is put a simple meal together in the evenings; but SHE has to awaken groggy/grouchy kids each morning, feed them breakfast, pull them away from their morning play, pry them from their daily delay tactics, get them dressed, teeth brushed, etc. in a timely manner to scoot them out the door in time for school?” “Do you honestly not see how lop-sided, unequal, and unfair you are being to that poor woman who, by the grace of god, somehow agreed to be your wife?”

[karen]

I think home chore equaity can only be determined by those in the relationship. While I agree that in the workplace and sometimes in society, women may be treated different than men, the question here was about household chores. And really the question was how are chores divided, not whether it is fair.

I do the majority of the yard work (traditionally a “male” chore) because my husband hates it and would rather pave the yard than mow the lawn. My husband does the majority of the cooking (obviously a traditionally “female” chore) because I absolutely hate to cook.

He works full time and I don’t, so I take on more of the housework chores. His work schedule makes it difficult for him to do things like banking, appointment setting, etc. So I do that. He’s really good at fixing stuff in the house so he does most of that, but he is also willing to teach me how to do it.

I do most of the car maintenance, it’s my car. He puts the kids to bed and makes time for field trips, camp outs, and other events that are important to the kids.

Is our chore break down equal? Probably not. Occasionally I get mad because I’m feeling put upon. Does he ever feel like he has to carry the financial burden of the whole family, probably (I don’t know, he doesn’t complain). It works for us. Somehow it all gets done and everyone gets along. Can’t ask for more than that!

[Muddy Girl]

I am not sure where to post this so I will put it here unless I am instructed otherwise. We just witnessed what appeared to be a peeping Tom or a prowler (or maybe just a man spying on something he was interested in). Anyway this happened in the alley behind our house which would be on the West side of 26th Avenue SW that connects with Roxbury. The man appeared to be Asian and he was wearing blue jeans and a yellow jacket. He was right up against the bushes looking at the apartments that are across the alley from my back yard. He was very intent in getting a good angle, and even repositioned himself several times. He would occasionally look around nervously, as if he was checking to see if anyone was watching him. When he spotted us looking at him, he left VERY quickly down the alley walking towards Safeway. We were just in the process of calling the police when he left. Just wanted to give a heads up in case someone lives in the apartments he was looking at! Creepy!!!

[JoB]

i get the impression that some of you think that i have attacked poor smitty.

I wonder why it is when a woman speaks up and says that although things are better they are not equal..

the first response is often that she is attacking men?

I love men. They are my chosen partners and mostly i have chosen interesting men who have challenged me intellectually and made my life far more interesting than it would have been without them.

I have sons and grandsons and a great-grandson that i love dearly and who are all doing interesting and worthwhile things with their lives. (ok.. the verdict may be still out on the great-grandbaby)

I have two younger brothers who chose public service as their careers and each of them have sons i am more than proud to know.

I would venture that more than half of the people i converse with every day are men.

I like men. ;->

But that doesn’t change the facts.

The facts are that in spite of all the progress towards equality .. men and women are not equal in our society or in our relationships.

Unless women are unionized and therefore have access to a regulated pay structure .. women are paid less than men even when you compare identical positions.

The ERA has never been ratified. Women are the only class of citizens in the United States not guaranteed equality by constitutional amendment.

Women are still routinely blamed when they are raped or physically abused by partners.

A cop in Cananda recently had to apologize for giving girls the advice “not to dress like a slut” in a rape prevention lecture…

and if you think the same advice isn’t given here.. you would be wrong.

What a woman is wearing when she is raped is often reported in the local newspaper.

Women still bear the brunt of the responsibility for unintended pregnancies.. regardless of their age or mental capacity.

Women still bear the brunt of the responsibility for intended pregnancies (kids) after divorce…

and in relationships.. study after study still show that whether a woman works outside the home or not.. she is more likely to carry a much larger burden for household chores than her male partner.

I didn’t make this world..

in fact.. i have done everything in my power my entire adult life to create change.

and there is some…

but not enough.

equal is equal…

as in the same amount time spent exclusively on household chores and child raising…

and i am betting that although Smitty certainly does far more than many men

(i assume Smitty is a man.. perhaps i shouldn’t presume)

the tasks listed don’t appear to me to approach equality.

And i suspect if the women who accuse me of being unkind to smitty in pointing that out really thought about the range of household tasks they accomplish every day without thinking much about them .. they would agree.

Although we don’t have the amount of work our grandmothers or great-grandmothers had to ensure survival… homemaking is still a far larger task requiring far larger amounts of time to accomplish than mere chores would indicate.

At it’s best.. we literally make a home.

at it’s worst.. we keep the dust bunnies down.. everyone fed and science experiments out of the refrigerator.

thank god most of us fall in the making a home category… there’s no place like home.

[charlabob]

This is great news (and the first person who uses the word “pork” or “earmark” will incur The Wrath of Charla.) :-)

Seriously, it was the only decision that makes sense–both technically and economically. (And, yeah, I read extensive summaries of both proposals — that’s the kind of geeky nerd I am.)

Congrats, funkie (and all the rest of you — including my many neighbors on 47th Ave who are associated with Boeing.)

Now, if they use American(tm) labor to fulfill this contract, it may actually get built and fly.

[JoB]

Markangelo..

if the political stance of the so called “moral majority” is any indication of the “morals” they are teaching children… we are in big trouble.

you said it all when you called it religious indoctrination…

how many permission slips do you think would come back if that phrase were used as the purpose of the group?

[DP]

‘member the beyitch slap she gave the traffic cop that one time?

Well . . . where do you think she learned to slap like that?

[linda]

Speaking of Brass Monkeys, cold and shrinkage:

In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters carried iron cannons. Those cannons fired round iron cannon balls. It was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon, but how to prevent them from rolling about the deck?

The best storage method devised was a square based pyramid with one ball on top, resting on four resting on nine which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to

the cannon.

There was only one problem…how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding or rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate called a “Monkey” with 16 round indentations. But, if this plate was made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make “Brass Monkeys.” Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled.

Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron cannon balls would come right off the monkey.

Thus, it was quite literally, “Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey”.

I’ll cite my source later, the book is at home in my book shelf.

[MarkAngello]

Ken, I don’t know who you are or anything whatever about what you just posted. I don’t insult people as you just did. I’ve no interest in rudeness.

Why not continue the civil conversation instead?

Here is my last post–

Job===but this isn’t exactly a free speech issue is it?

Sure it is. That’s what the Supreme Court ruled. Religious indoctrination is protected free speech.

Job=== this is introducing religious education into our public school setting under the guise of social programs.

Yes, its both, right? I mean private free speech social programs can also be religious. This is not government speech but private citizen speech. That makes it constitutional for parents who want religious-based social instruction after school hours.

Job==the very fact that a parent can not obtain a syllabus of the instruction makes any consent they might give uninformed….

I think that applied only to a local group formed to fight CEF. They wanted to censor CEF or ban it, so no wonder CEF would refuse. You can find out what they do by visiting a club at another school system or asking them online.

Job== which infringes on parental rights in a big way.

Good point! Sorry, but I don’t know the legal definition of a parent’s ‘right’ in this matter. How much information does a parent need? The takehome permission slip says it is has Bible verses and is religious. I’d like that for my kids to build moral character, but that’s my personal response.

[MarkAngello]

Job===but this isn’t exactly a free speech issue is it?

Sure it is. That’s what the Supreme Court ruled. Religious indoctrination is protected free speech.

Job=== this is introducing religious education into our public school setting under the guise of social programs.

Yes, its both, right? I mean private free speech social programs can also be religious. This is not government speech but private citizen speech. That makes it constitutional for parents who want religious-based social instruction after school hours.

Job==the very fact that a parent can not obtain a syllabus of the instruction makes any consent they might give uninformed….

I think that applied only to a local group formed to fight CEF. They wanted to censor CEF or ban it, so no wonder CEF would refuse. You can find out what they do by visiting a club at another school system or asking them online.

Job== which infringes on parental rights in a big way.

Good point! Sorry, but I don’t know the legal definition of a parent’s ‘right’ in this matter. How much information does a parent need? The takehome permission slip says it is has Bible verses and is religious. I’d like that for my kids to build moral character, but that’s my personal response.

[JoB]

HMCRich..

1..that is what you call harassment? boy that labeling gig really works well.

so… non harassment would have been listening reverently and agreeing with everything the man had to say?

2. can’t get there from here right now. just as well

3. you are aware that the public sector unions have conceded to every point Gov Walker and the republicans in the legislature asked for except making it illegal for the union to collectively bargain for public sector employees.

This isn’t about the fiscal emergency Gov Walker created… it is about breaking the unions so Wisconsin jobs can be outsourced.

the state court of Wisconsin has just ruled that his last union breaking stint for the state was illegal. that little outsourcing move will cost the state of Wisconsin half a mil for each of the security workers who were fired by his last illegal union breaking move…

and you think the democrats should come home and take their licks?

no need for integrity here.. winner take all?

if we follow that money trail the winner who takes all are the Koch brothers who fund the tea party…

hmmmmmmm…. ?

[DP]

Oh, those slings.

Oh, those arrows.

[sydney]

Thanks Zenguy, JoB and redblack, for defending me! Also I used to do union construction and worked with guys who listened to Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern every day. I couldn’t understand their position since they benefited so directly from union activity.

I have found in so many cases, where there is a stepping backward from progress, it is due to a single man and his cronies. Bill Bennett, Reagan’s Secretary of Education, personally killed Civics classes which might have helped our younger generations understand the importance of being informed, instead of what they got (a lot of ‘greed is good’, Randian BS from the mainstream media, with which they were ill-equipped to deal). Way back when, it was Harry J. Anslinger who demonized hemp for the cotton, petroleum, tobacco and alcohol industries. McCarthy and his disastrous anticommunist campaign polarized us and forever left ‘socialism’ with an evil taint, undeservedly. Extreme capitalism a la Greenspan is just as bad as communism, leading to the destruction of the middle class and eventually either revolt or fascism, or simply a whole lotta poor people! Reagan mumble Bush grumble grr Gingrich Palin Bachmann (pardon me while I drink a virtual martini).

[redblack]

But, the Wisconsin legislators who cut and ran, have made their point, allowing the unions to fight this and make a stand. Now it is time for them to take their medicine. To not come back soon would be anti-american and selfish. They are elected representatives and need to do their job, even if it hurts. In two years the citizens of Wisconsin can vote in new reps and in four years a new governor if they want.

you understand that if the wisconsin 14 come back, the senate goes into session, and they vote on passage of this bill, right? and that its passage is assured if there’s a vote, right? and that the bill means the effective end to collective bargaining, right?

It is just kind of strange that when the shootings in AZ happened, Civility was called for.

i’ve never not wished for civil discourse. but for so long, the right has pushed the left into a corner, hurled insults, and let the religious gun nuts make all the insinuations that they want about gays and liberals and women and minorities.

so i hope you’ll excuse me if i want to push you back into the center of the room – where facts trump distortions and spin – before i take a conciliatory tone.

it doesn’t mean i can’t be civil; but it does mean that if i’m shoved, i might take a proverbial swing at you. (or maybe even if i’m just speaking up for someone who can’t or won’t speak up for himself.)

[HMC Rich]

Since I vote more conservative, I am generally less inclined to support the Public Sector Unions. The Right Wingers are pulling out FDR’s view of Public Unions. Here within this link are FDR’s words and some history. http://www2.hernandotoday.com/content/2010/oct/17/ha-fdrs-warning-public-employee-unions-a-no-no/

Here is a link from Real Clear Politics from one of the articles from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal relating to FDR also: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/02/19/the_ghost_of_fdr_is_smiling_on_wisconsins_governor_108962.html

There are two sides or more to every story. I also saw anti-conservative information while finding these links. Right now I am proud that my wife’s “private” union told the ownership group to kiss off. They are being unreasonable and without representation in her industry the management would run roughshod over the employees. Not all companies are as cut throat either.

But, the Wisconsin legislators who cut and ran, have made their point, allowing the unions to fight this and make a stand. Now it is time for them to take their medicine. To not come back soon would be anti-american and selfish. They are elected representatives and need to do their job, even if it hurts. In two years the citizens of Wisconsin can vote in new reps and in four years a new governor if they want.

I know Walker has an agenda. So does our President. We each have to take what we perceive as the good and the bad.

[redblack]

sydney: rich is a union member. how’s that for irony?

smitty: the only option the dems in WI had – in order to not allow an end to collective bargaining – was to not allow a quorum.

period.

compare it to a filibuster if you want, but that’s a false analogy, and you know it.

a better analogy would be the majority party ending the filibuster, aka the nuclear option.

but neither analogy describes how legislators are taking rights away from the citizenry who elected them, no matter what party they adhere to.

the only question that needs to be answered is: “do we, the people, have a right to organize on our own behalf?”

i await your answer. debate me on the other points, but i respectfully request a direct answer to the above question.