Seattle Public Schools likely to propose closing ~20 elementaries, but isn’t saying which ones, yet

Many months into Seattle Public Schools‘ march toward seemingly inevitable school closures/consolidations to close a budget hole, a few things were clarified at tonight’s School Board meeting. For one, they’re only talking about elementary schools, so the plan that Superintendent Dr. Brent Jones is working on might be more accurately titled “A System of Well-Resourced Elementary Schools.” For two, while they insist there’s no specific list yet, the likelihood is that about 20 of the district’s 70 elementaries will be proposed for closure/consolidation:

But the district’s chief operating officer Fred Podesta insisted, “We weren’t looking for 20 schools to close, we’re looking for 50 schools to keep open.” They also outlined how a “well-resourced school” would be staffed – about 500 students, with full-time art, music, and PE teachers (though not full-time nurses):

The well-resourced schools plan – minus a specific list of schools – was discussed with board members after they moved down to tables with district managers; they voted unanimously at the meeting’s end to accept the plan outline, which was not, it was stressed, an “approval.” First, lots of questions; West Seattle/South Park board director Gina Topp, for example, asked Dr. Jones how he came to decide that closures/consolidations was the way to go. “A smaller footprint is going to allow us to do more things,” he replied. Other board directors asked hypotheticals regarding criteria for choosing which schools would be proposed for changes; the replies seemed to indicate that enrollment size will be the major driver.

Wondering about local elementaries’ sizes? West Seattle/South Park has 11 SPS elementaries – we’ve listed them with the enrollment projections for next year as noted in this budgeting document:

Alki (currently at the former Schmitz Park Elementary building, awaiting its appeal-delayed rebuild/expansion) – 267
Arbor Heights (rebuilt and expanded in the past decade) – 450
Concord International – 264
Fairmount Park (closed in the ’00s, reopened and expanded in the ’10s) – 366
Gatewood – 402
Genesee Hill (rebuilt and expanded in the past decade) – 439
Highland Park – 238
Lafayette – 494
Roxhill at EC Hughes (renovated six years ago) – 240
Sanislo – 164
West Seattle (recently expanded) – 330

So what’s next? Meetings:

We’ll publish the list of community meeting dates and places as soon as it’s made public. Meantime, Dr. Jones spoke repeatedly of bringing a detailed closure/consolidation proposal to the board “sometime next month,” no specific date yet. See tonight’s slide deck in full here. Again, this would be a plan to start in the 2025-2026 school year, NOT next school year.

92 Replies to "Seattle Public Schools likely to propose closing ~20 elementaries, but isn't saying which ones, yet"

  • Mrs. Myrtle May 9, 2024 (1:01 am)

    How do any of these schools have available space to consolidate? Are they going to dump a bunch of portables out on the playfields? 

    • WSB May 9, 2024 (1:24 am)

      That came up; management said no.

    • Mel May 9, 2024 (6:15 am)

      I’m guessing they’d redraw boundaries to make sure more kids filter into each school. For example, alki is less than 300 kids but I know the new school is projected to hold quite a few more kids.

      • WSB May 9, 2024 (9:39 am)

        Yes, that was mentioned, once there’s a decision. That was also mentioned as the only potential effect for middle schools, that their boundaries might well wind up redrawn.

      • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:29 pm)

        This will affect every single corner of the district so boundaries are sure to change.

    • WS Parent May 9, 2024 (7:49 am)

      As parents of a kindergartener this fall, we took a tour of West Seattle Elementary recently. The vice principal pointed out extra classrooms that were built during the expansion that are currently empty. Seems like it was renovated with absorbing extra students in mind.

      • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:30 pm)

        For new parents, you sure are smart. Exactly on the money and same for Montlake Elementary and Viewlands Elementary.

    • SPS parent May 9, 2024 (8:57 am)

      They would adjust the boundaries. For example if they closed Sanislo, with only 164 students, most would get absorbed by West Seattle, with only only 330 but capacity for 500. Or some could be absorbed by Highland Park, with 238 students but room for 306.There is a very useful map of school enrollment numbers versus capacity here:
      https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/a52ef1e7b30c4130bf8ac3d59970650b/
      (Original link here: https://saveseattleschools.blogspot.com/2023/10/seattle-schools-elementary-schoolk-8.html)
      Looking at the map, most of the under-enrolled schools appear to be north of downtown.

  • Person May 9, 2024 (2:25 am)

    I think Genesee Hill was built for 600. Up until a few years ago it was packed. Seems like you could move all of Sanislo right on in!What about Stem and Pathfinder. Those should be on the chopping block first.

    • Que May 9, 2024 (8:21 pm)

      Capacity at Genesee Hill is more like 660, but they opened the building with enrollment of 720.  District would probably not choose to transport the Sanislo student body all the way to GH.  I agree that absorption by WS Elem or Highland Park is more likely. Agree that schools that have smaller enrollments and older buildings are at greater risk of closure.  K-8 programs are at a high risk as well, as the district has always waffled on its support for those programs.  There will DEFINITELY be new boundaries drawn to ‘right size’ the enrollment numbers.

      • N May 10, 2024 (10:20 am)

        That’s a big drop in enrollment for Genesee, but the desperate need keep kids ahead of the curve post covid is real.  When we were at Layfayette a few years was under capacity by a lot, I know they tweaked the boundaries to help but surprised to see it being the largest in West Seattle now.  

    • PF parent May 15, 2024 (6:34 pm)

      My guess is they will cut the 6-8 programs at pathfinder and stem and consolidate the k-5s. 

  • Meeeee May 9, 2024 (4:00 am)

    SPS needs to live within their budget.  If consolidating schools is one way to get to more fiscal responsibility then I can support closing some elementary schools.

    • DT May 9, 2024 (11:00 am)

      SPS needs to serve the students and the budget should reflect what the students need.

    • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:32 pm)

      Ok but you know when they should have lived in their budget? When they approved the last teachers’ contract when they – and the Board – knew they did not have the dollars long-term.

      • ws resident May 9, 2024 (5:15 pm)

        Melissa, Teachers need a wage that is competitive to surrounding districts. 

        • Bradley May 9, 2024 (6:08 pm)

          Here’s a list of all SPS salaries. https://fiscal.wa.gov/K12/K12Salaries

          • 1994 May 9, 2024 (9:31 pm)

            Thanks for posting the salary web site.  There are many $10,000 to $20,000 salary bumps from 1 year to the next…..how could the district not have expected to run a deficit? Maybe they need some better finance staff. Remember this will also impact the pensions so the salary increases are long lasting to the budget.

      • Mel May 9, 2024 (8:23 pm)

        Totally agree. This is pure negligence on the part of the district IMO. They need to stop bending over backwards when unions demand more and more money. If teachers need to be paid more, find a way to pay for it but cutting staff downtown. My company couldn’t pay out much this year so I’m lucky to be getting a 2% increase. 

        • High Point May 10, 2024 (3:15 pm)

          Reading people say that teachers should be getting paid less then they are is just about the darkest thing I’ve seen in a long time. The problem isn’t the money going out of SPS it’s the money that’s not coming in. We live in one of the richest region in the US. How in God’s good name is there a short fall? It’s because the wrong people are being taxed.

  • Marcus May 9, 2024 (5:46 am)

    Does the rebuilding of Alki elementary make sense anymore??

    • Elton May 9, 2024 (10:43 am)

      I’m also wondering that. The lack of a music program is really sad – as a parent I’d rather have my child in a school with a music program that maybe is a couple of miles farther away than a school physically closer with less kids and no music program. Sure, they could zone more kids to Alki, but that only makes sense if the other area schools don’t hae the capacity to be higher density (and I honestly don’t know each school’s max capacity).

    • Frank May 9, 2024 (6:31 pm)

      It never did. It should have been Lafayette that they remodeled.

    • Unpopular opinion May 9, 2024 (9:33 pm)

      No and it never did. Sell the land and use the money toward the budget shortfall.

  • K to the F May 9, 2024 (5:58 am)

    This is heartbreaking news. The district spin on this as “looking for 50 schools to keep open” tries to hand wave away the anxiety this will cause parents across the city. And how will this even work? We’ve experienced class sizes of 20+ kids from kinder to 2nd thus far which is already too much for those kids, the classroom space, and the teachers. This is yet another reason the district will keep driving those who are able toward private options and further burden those who can’t with few “well resourced” options.

  • Que May 9, 2024 (5:59 am)

    Did they talk about how the K-8 schools fit into this “well resourced elementary” plan?  

    • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:28 pm)

      No, they haven’t and I caught that as well. I can say the district has never really liked K-8s so hmmm.

  • Duffy May 9, 2024 (6:28 am)

    In a VHCOL city, this will happen. It’s happened in other comp cities and now it’s happening in Seattle. Less folks having kids + unaffordable city + more and more have resources to send kids to private school + more and more people home schooling post-COVID and we are where we are. Best option is to scrap the local schools in the worst shape and consolidate. Ratios will go up and staffing will be affected but that’s how it works. For a community that always passes school funding a 100M deficit is something else. But then you remember that it’s Seattle and it makes sense…

  • JR197N May 9, 2024 (6:59 am)

    Can someone tell me what Podesta has done right for the city of Seattle other than ensure his cushy little salary of 250k is protected? Look him up online people. He’s a hot mess and unqualified. Public servant? I think not. 

  • Maxx May 9, 2024 (7:00 am)

    Isn’t this their pattern?  Close schools to save money, then they are over-utilized so they spend money to open schools they closed and start the whole cycle over again?  Just seems like in my 30 years here this has happened multiple times. What’s to make this cycle different?

    • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:34 pm)

      I was on the last Closure and Consolidation Committee from 2005 – you are not wrong on your point.What will be different? Well, the charter law states that charter schools have the right of first refusal of any closed school building. Not to buy but to lease/rent. Should SPS need buildings back, it might be harder to do. Myself, I do not have faith in this plan especially when there were some properties (not school buildings) that could be sold.

  • Pinto May 9, 2024 (7:24 am)

    The district must have some algorithm that shows 500 students is best for efficient education. As a teacher I’m very curious about class sizes. Furthermore, the elective teachers will have 500 students cycling through a single art or music classroom every week?I can see one  possible upside…. It is really hard to get quality admin so perhaps this will spread the good principals around. I think the district needs to be much more transparent about other places to reduce costs such as the various unions with painters and mechanics that suck up tons of funds and handicap schools from making their own repairs for less money

  • onion May 9, 2024 (7:56 am)

    Perhaps close Alki Elementary rather than rebuilding and making it even larger?

    • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:35 pm)

      I doubt it (unless the City doesn’t go their way) because of all the dollars already spent on the projects.

    • Bradley May 9, 2024 (4:24 pm)

      I suggest sell Lafayette and reap the Admiral Junction payoff.  I’m sure it would raise a lot of money. 

  • WS Taxpayer May 9, 2024 (7:59 am)

    ummm…yeah duh.  Stop building Alki, like NOW…Its been obvious this has been simmering for a long time, and here we are fighting to build a school that is not needed.  

  • WS Troll May 9, 2024 (8:01 am)

    How does it make any sense to close 20 schools across the district, while building a new school at Alki. I mean I am sure the answer lies in the difference between capital budgets and operating budgets but optically it looks like a load of mismanagement to claim the need to close schools because money, while building a replacement building. Why not hold off on the replacement Alki for a few years until enrollment improves?

    • Frog May 9, 2024 (1:49 pm)

      Your question has an answer.  School finances are not well understood by Joe “never say no to any levy” Voter, but it’s like this:  capital budget and operating budget are totally separate.  Funds to rebuild Alki ES were approved by voters in BEX V.  The often discussed funding SPS budget gap is in the operating budget.  The money exists to rebuild Alki ES, and if having a shiny new school of the efficient size, while closing a couple of older, undersized schools, would reduce the operating budget and/or improve educational offerings, it makes sense to Admin to do it.

    • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:37 pm)

      Why keep building? Because they need bigger, newer buildings to house all the students from smaller schools. They need Alki and badly.They are doing the same to Montlake Elementary and Viewlands Elementary. James Baldwin was built much bigger but is underenrolled. They will close something close to it and move those kids in.

  • SLJ May 9, 2024 (8:30 am)

    Some of these schools have plenty of space. The new Alki will hold 500 (I think). West Seattle Elementary has multiple empty classrooms. I believe Highland Park also has capacity in the building to expand. It’s tough for the schools that close but it makes sense overall.

  • jason May 9, 2024 (8:43 am)

    West Seattle Elementary was recently expanded to hold 500 students which assuming that Sansilo is closed would easily accommodate the students with some of them moving to nearby Highland Park Elementary. The big wildcard is Lafayette but my guess is that it will stay open to accommodate the future population growth of Admiral District with some of the students transferring to Alki Elementary 

    Would be very interesting to see the capacities of each school if available

  • A May 9, 2024 (8:45 am)

    Any  info on the capacity of all the current schools? Can all of them accommodate 500 students? 

  • WS4LIFE May 9, 2024 (8:45 am)

    As someone who used to work in SPS elementary school offices, not having a FT nurse for enrollment numbers like that is going to be hell on office staff.  It’s going to be band aids, ice bags, observing glucose checks, asthma attacks, sick kids (fevers, vomiting…), etc all… day… long… Fred can paint it anyway he likes, but it’s still going to be difficult. Maybe he’d like go volunteer regularly and see what it’s like?

    • jojofrenchfry May 9, 2024 (11:22 am)

      Absolutely agree. I sit in our larger neighborhood school front office each week while my preschooler visits his speech therapist, and it’s a revolving door of kiddos needing to see the nurse. On the days the nurse is not there, the admin staff is pulled in a million different directions to support the school,  help sick kids, monitor recess, manage entry into the building, and so on. It’s crazy!

    • JTB May 15, 2024 (6:59 pm)

      You’re absolutely right. Not having a full time nurse should honestly be illegal. Seems like a huge liability. 

  • Ugh May 9, 2024 (9:16 am)

    It has been discussed that they will change the middle schools for Louisa Boren & Pathfinder to be elementary classes since they are not an equitable way to use public resources. So the current middle school students at those schools will only have next year to stay at their K8 school and then will need to transition to another middle school beginning the 2025-2026 school year. This makes sense to me. I believe Pathfinder has approx 150 middle school students so if they close Sanislo (currently at 164 students), they can transition those students to replace the Pathfinder middle school openings. I would be interested in seeing the savings SPS will have with just this hypothetical change alone. Consider all the resources (utilities, staffing, etc) that are involved in keeping a school of only 164 students open. Custodians, lunch staff, recess monitors, school bus routes, administration, etc are all very costly.

    • GS May 9, 2024 (12:54 pm)

      As the parent of Pathfinder 6th grader, this has been my fear. If this happens, my kiddo will end up transferring to one of the massive middle schools for 8th grade only, and then to a high school the next year. What is the most frustrating aspect to me is that SPS is dead-set on a one-size-fits-all model, when in reality we need different options for different types of kids. My kid (who is autistic) will drown in a larger middle school with six or seven different teachers compared to Pathfinder where we have three (amazing) teachers to work with. On the other hand, I would have thrived at a big middle school. After a completely chaotic elementary school experience due to the pandemic, now middle school may end up being the same. It feels so defeating.

    • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:39 pm)

      Can you explain that first sentence?And GS, TELL the Board this possible outcome for your child (and probably many others). That’s a lot of stress on a kid.

    • ws resident May 9, 2024 (5:21 pm)

      Madison Middle School is busting at the seams. I don’t think moving k-8 middles schools will work unless it is moving Pathfinder and Stem middle schools to one of the k-8 schools.

  • Conjunction Junction May 9, 2024 (9:34 am)

    Pre-commenting on this, because I know it will come up.  There is close to 0% likelihood that the physical buildings will be sold. The buildings lose their occupancy permit after a few years if left vacant.  Ideally the district will use these resources by leasing the spaces out to preschools and childcare centers, as these seats are a much needed commodity in WS.  Enrollment/birthrates in Seattle has always been in waves, and we will need those buildings again in another decade.   If families feel like they can get their daycare needs met locally, they won’t move away, and we can reopen schools.  This is in addition to many opportunities for community spaces.  Of course, my comments are about the long game.  I am very sorry for the immediate stress that these closures will have on families during the ramp up to the decision and if any WS schools are closed.  

    • sam-c May 9, 2024 (10:17 am)

      There’s a lot of good points and discussion here in the comments.  Yours is one that really makes sense to me, especially regarding occupancy of vacant schools.Maybe some of the childcare and educational operations (the big day care and Mode Music) being displaced by Delridge Light Rail station could re-open in one of the vacated elementary schools?

    • JDB May 9, 2024 (11:15 am)

      You are 100% correct that they will just hold onto the buildings until future need arises. They did this about 10 years ago in Queen Anne to a non-profit preschool that had been leasing the space for 28 years. A preschool that provides early intervention to children with special needs. The real kicker is that the preschool had just used a $250,000 grant on repairing the building and SPS evicted them without including the non-profit in any discussions on the matter. The preschool ended up relocating to Greenwood, quite far from Queen Anne, and SPS happily moved a homeschooling program into that newly renovated building. Link below for the whole story.

      https://www.thestranger.com/blogs/2014/02/05/18829011/seattle-public-schools-evicts-northwest-center-kids

      • WSB May 9, 2024 (11:48 am)

        It wasn’t particularly scandalous but for a more local example, independent Westside School rented SPS’s former EC Hughes Elementary for five years; then Westside built its own campus in Arbor Heights, and SPS renovated and reopened EC Hughes as new home to Roxhill, whose old campus on Roxbury in turn became home to special-education and alternative programs. – TR

    • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:40 pm)

      I agree that there are uses for the buildings like childcare, Pre-K and possibly homeless shelters. But the charter school law says that charters have the right of first refusal for any closed school building (probably not to buy but to lease/rent.)

  • Josh May 9, 2024 (10:00 am)

    I couldn’t find on the report, but is it documented how many students each school was built for, versus just looking at current enrollment?  That might be more of a telling sign of potential closure if they’re trying to maximize capacity with less buildings.

  • Rhonda May 9, 2024 (10:34 am)

    This is a great opportunity to end the insane Alki Elementary fiasco and allow SPS to make money by selling the land to housing developers. It would be a two-fer.

    • Anne May 9, 2024 (10:53 am)

      Baloney on that idea.If they decide to stop building -turn it into a bigger park-open space for families. 

      • Rhonda May 9, 2024 (8:31 pm)

        Great, but Seattle Parks is also dealing with a slashed budget and can’t afford to buy it from SPS.

  • SPS parent May 9, 2024 (10:37 am)

    Our schools aren’t just places for kids to get an education – for a growing number of kids in our city, it’s their opportunity to get a hot meal. To receive healthcare. To be sheltered and cared for. Should our schools have to be all of these things? No, basic needs should be met outside the classroom so students can come to the schools to learn. But the destruction of all social safety nets, rising cost of living and poverty-level wages means our schools have to bear that burden. And how do we respond to educators and support staff doing the impossible task of meeting kids basic needs and providing a quality education? Every year, we ask them to do more with less. More responsibility, less resourcing. I don’t see how a school of 500 kids with one part-time school nurse, one art teacher is any better resourced than a school of 300 with one part-time school nurse and one art teacher. How about they cut pay rates for the leadership at SPS headquarters and focus on supporting the schools we have? 

    • SLJ May 9, 2024 (11:44 am)

      The FTE for assistant principals, nurses, secretaries, etc changes depending on enrollment. If the school is bigger, they get more nurse FTE for example. So it does make more sense. A full time nurse at each school is obviously much better and frees up the secretaries to do their actual jobs.

      • sps parent May 9, 2024 (3:30 pm)

        Unfortunately there’s nothing in that plan about elementary schools having full time nurses. The plan shared above says PT nurse 2 days a week at a school of 500 students. 1 day a week at a school of 230 students.  0.5 social worker, 0.5 art teacher, as though half a person was even a thing at all. Sure, 1 more day a week of a nurse on site sounds like a win, but with twice as many students, there’s no gain. Just one person now expected to provide personalized care to 500 kids. Even the schools with the largest populations, under this plan, will continue to be inadequately supported. 

    • Mel May 9, 2024 (8:32 pm)

      I can’t speak to the nurse, but my son’s private school has one music teacher and ~500 kids and they manage just fine.

      • SPS teacher May 9, 2024 (10:07 pm)

        What is the special ed number within that 500?  The # that come to art class hungry?  The # that can’t stay home when sick because any adult at home works everyday?

  • Cindy May 9, 2024 (10:41 am)

    I agree, stop building the Alki school if they’re closing others. It looks like walk ability for these kids is going right out the window here, we’re now putting the kids on buses.Why can’t the neighborhood schools stay open? Is there no money in the BIG general fund pot for education, or is it all being spend recklessly somewhere else. These kids deserve the best we can give them to get a good start in life.

  • Alki Parent May 9, 2024 (11:22 am)

    To everyone saying Alki shouldn’t be rebuilt – the idea is that it would absorb students from other schools after it is finished. Fewer, larger schools is their goal. If there are fewer schools, why wouldn’t we want them to be new buildings that have already had money earmarked? Many older buildings, like Schmitz Park where Alki students are currently, are well past their prime.

    • SPS parent May 9, 2024 (11:54 am)

      SPS has said they don’t have any plans to adjust school boundaries to put more students in Alki after it is rebuilt. They dropped that nugget during one of the meetings about the zoning departures. WSB reported on it, but I can’t find the story/comment.

      • Frog May 9, 2024 (4:14 pm)

        “Don’t have any plans” in SPS language means of course they will do it, but just haven’t gotten around to drawing up specific plans yet.

  • Lafayette neighbor May 9, 2024 (11:47 am)

    Expand Lafayette, add a wing, isn’t that why SPS successfully lobbied to upzone the neighborhood? It has the largest standalone playground.

    • WS Troll May 9, 2024 (12:56 pm)

      Indeed!   The space for Alki Elementary is small. Why didn’t SPS decide to do Lafayette before Alki.   Then they could have a big school that can hold all the kids, while not crunching Alki with parking issues.  

      • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:43 pm)

        I, too, wondered about this. I don’t know if we will ever know for sure.

        • Conjunction Junction May 10, 2024 (10:58 am)

          There were condition scores that showed that Alki should be done much sooner.  Plus Lafayette is fine for now, and will likely be on the next round of builds.  They also have to take turns using Schmitz Park for relocation during the remodel.   It will not take long to have the buildings back to full capacity, and buildings will be ready for them, unlike all the quick construction that happened in 1962. 

    • Michael May 9, 2024 (1:25 pm)

      Lafayette does feel horribly underutilized. It’s a massive plot of land, only a single story building, and is centrally located for a significant number of households. If the needs of the community are that elementary schools need higher enrollment, it feels like a place well suited to do that with some capital improvements.

    • AF May 9, 2024 (2:37 pm)

      While I wish this isn’t the case…My guess is they build Alki sans reasonable parking and eventually close or remodel Lafayette. Some of the kids at Lafayette would go to genesee hill and some to Alki. I was informed it is currently OVER 100% capacity. I really like Lafayette but the building is old and they can’t even eat in the classrooms because they have ant problems. 

    • Conjunction Junction May 10, 2024 (10:54 am)

      Alki’s condition score was much worse than Lafayette and then you add the equity score.  Building projects are planned way in advance of knowing what enrollment could be, so no, no one is going to stop building Alki and start on Lafayette.  Lafayette was going to be on the next round of building projects.  There are still enough children for Alki to maintain a school, and the neighborhood deserves it.  Also, when you look at the all the properties on the map, and consider topography, Gen Hill, Laf, and Alki make plenty of sense, even if they are oversized for a while.  As a taxpayer, and former sps family, I want the district to take care of their assets as soon as they can, with the worst going first, so knowing the condition scores is key.   Also, anyone entering a lease with sps should know they are temporary residents, if not before, for sure now.

  • Brian May 9, 2024 (12:25 pm)

    Meanwhile we are giving millions more to SPD and we wonder why we have the issues we do. 

    • Bradley May 9, 2024 (4:33 pm)

      And there’s the token Defund The Police comment. What took so long Brian?

      • Brian May 10, 2024 (8:11 am)

        “Defund the police” are your words, Bradley, not mine. I like your suggestion though. 

    • Mel May 9, 2024 (8:36 pm)

      SPS doesn’t know how to live within their means. They have approved salary increases they can’t afford and have bloated staffing downtown. I don’t believe throwing more money at them is the solution. They need to find a way to live with the money they have (which is a lot!) like other independent and private schools who bring in far less per child than SPS does.

  • snowskier May 9, 2024 (12:27 pm)

    Looks like Sanislo will be split into Highland Park and West Seattle, more modern buildings with capacity.  Same thing for Roxhill, with capacity at Arbor Heights, Gatewood and West Seattle.  Concord is so geographically separate, I couldn’t see it changing.  Bigger schools with fully resourced nursing and arts programs aren’t a bad thing.  It also leaves fewer PTA’s working to share a limited pot of fundraising dollars.  SPS didn’t mention anything about their removal of the advanced programs and how that has chased many parents away from the district.  Seems like larger schools could accommodate the reintroduction of advanced programs.   

    • Melissa Westbrook May 9, 2024 (3:45 pm)

      The district is not going to put HC back as it was (at least not for awhile). So the plan is for HC kids to go back to their neighborhood school (or whatever is their neighborhood school after buildings are closed) AND bring back more Special Education students to be with peers in Gen Ed. And the district says no extra resources or staff will be part of it. So it’s all on the teacher to create all those individual lesson plans.

  • Parent May 9, 2024 (2:17 pm)

    SPS would attract more families if they had equitable and transparent before and after school childcare options. Programs are very difficult to get into and many families are turned away. Pricing options have big discrepancies between SPS schools depending on whether the program within the school/property is run by the City, YMCA, or independent organizations. 

  • wsteacher May 9, 2024 (5:25 pm)

    The funny thing about Brent Jones’ plan is he is arguing that schools would be better resourced if schools were consolidated, however, with more kids there are not more resources per child. The ratio is the same, thus they are similarly resourced schools as before.

  • Kyle May 9, 2024 (8:16 pm)

    Closing schools probably necessary. Other budget cuts and layoffs probably necessary too. The lack of transparency on the budget for SPS is astounding. The amount of dollars/child spent on transportation is like 3x any other district. The administrator/child ratio is also extremely high. Right sizing some schools may help, but without a thorough review and reducing operating expenses (mostly salaries) the closings won’t actually close the gap.

  • Admiral Mom May 10, 2024 (1:20 am)

    Why is it so hard to accept the impending closures? Change is hard and uncomfortable. But are we listening? Schools that are in such low enrollment percentage are not sustainable. Why maintain 2 half full buildings instead of strengthening ONE build by consolidating and resourcing it well? By federal law, all children are entitled to free and appropriate education. But nowhere in the law it says they are entitled to a specific school. Sure it’s great to walk to my neighborhood school, it makes sense, it creates community, it’s cleaner and environmentally ideal but sometimes we can’t get all the things.I rather spend my time collaborating to make the public school system the best it can be instead of hating chance and the inconvenience that this personally will bring to me.

    • zark00 May 10, 2024 (10:23 am)

      Because SPS has done this same thing, repeatedly, and it has never improved any aspect of education in Seattle. SPS administration is extremely bad at estimating enrollment. They use an outdated methodology and refuse to adopt anything more accurate. 2 year rolling, 5 year rolling, zero corrections, none, they don’t employ a single statistical correction. They are, right now, estimating next years enrollment with the heaviest weighting on what was happening at the height of the pandemic. They are guessing that next year will be a huge enrollment decline because in 2022 a bunch of kids bailed to private and charter schools.The school closures they are proposing right now are based on the assumption that 2024-26 will be another mass exodus of kids from public schools. Yes, they really modeled future enrollment heavily based on the aftermath of remote school and the pandemic.  Ask them, ask them for their methodology on enrollment estimates. 

  • Community Member May 10, 2024 (6:04 am)

    Alki’s design does NOT include loading space needed to accommodate an increased number of busses. They got a waiver on that by stating that the attendance area would not be expanded. Were they lying?

  • Mel May 10, 2024 (7:00 pm)

    SPS needs to focus on this being an under enrollment issue. What are they doing to make parents want to send their kids to SPS? No one wants to acknowledge the problem. We have scraped together enough to send our kids to a private school where the focus is community, service to others, making sure ALL kids succeed, and being at or above grade level in math and reading. This is what I didn’t see happening at SPS and why we opted for private school. 

  • KA May 10, 2024 (7:40 pm)

    Sell the Alki site (where few kids live anyway) and reinvest the $$$ to keep the others open! Easy, done. 

    • Parking!!! May 10, 2024 (9:35 pm)

      If all the NIMBYs manage to cancel the Alki rebuild, I’ll be advocating hard for it to be turned into a beautiful 4 – 6 story parking lot. That’s what everyone wants, right?

  • Ferns May 11, 2024 (6:41 am)

    …so, isn’t this the perfect time to abandon the poorly conceived Alki elementary rebuild entirely?  ??? 

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