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September 30, 2010 at 4:56 pm #596534
wsgolferMemberHey neighbors,
Does any of you have a Kindle sitting around that you don’t use anymore? If so, I’d like to buy it. Let me know which model you have and how much you’d like for it.
Thanks!
September 30, 2010 at 6:08 pm #704687
SmittyParticipantCurious as to why you wouldn’t just get an ipad. It’s a kindle plus a LOT more.
Not a slam on your decision – just an AAPL investor curious about consumer choices.
September 30, 2010 at 6:12 pm #704688
CarsonParticipantSmitty,
You are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? The Kindle is about 25% the price of an ipad, and a much much better book reader. The ipad does lots more, but its not a better book reader.
September 30, 2010 at 6:44 pm #704689
charlabobParticipantThe IPAD does a lot more and I don’t want to do most of it. Plus the price.
There’s a new kindle for <$140 on the Amazon.com web site — you might want to look at it. I’m still happy with my first generation Kindle 1 (or cheap enough to convince myself I’m happy with it.)
September 30, 2010 at 6:51 pm #704690
cjboffoliParticipantTrue, the iPad costs more than the Kindle. But it also has much, much more functionality. To me it is the more practical device as it has more than just one use.
I’m not so sure I’d agree that the Kindle is a “much better book reader.” The book buying and reading experience on the iPad is excellent. The amount of attention that has gone into the user experience is impressive. Integrated dictionary, chapter scrubbing, wikipedia access, word searchability, color-highlighting, on the fly type-size changing are all intuitive to use.
Amazon has a clear content advantage at this point but that will be gradually eroding as time goes on.
Not only does the iPad have access to websites, but there is an ever-expanding selection of periodicals to choose from as well. As an all-in-one device reading device for travel, the iPad has been the clear winner for me.
September 30, 2010 at 6:55 pm #704691
CarsonParticipantI actually have an ipad. The Kindle is much easier on the eyes. I equate it to tools. You can buy a multi tool, but it typically does nothing excellent, just many things ok. If you want a pure book reader, the Kindle is the hands down winner. That being said, I didn’t want a great book reader, but it is a cool feature to have!
September 30, 2010 at 7:03 pm #704692
JustSarahParticipantI don’t own either an iPad or Kindle, but have used both in person and can vouch that the Kindle gives a much better reading experience. The iPad isn’t bad, but it still strains the eyes after a while; the Kindle does not, and it’s lighter and smaller than the iPad.
I’m an Apple fan, don’t get me wrong – our household has an iMac, MacBook, two iPhone 3GS’s, an iPhone 4, and even a couple iPod Touches still floating around – but I am coveting the Kindle much more than the iPad. :-)
September 30, 2010 at 7:39 pm #704693
BigPhilParticipantI’m not so sure I’d agree that the Kindle is a “much better book reader.”
You’re wrong :)
I love my iPad and am an AAPL holder but backlight LCD doesn’t even compare to eInk for eye-strain. I can’t look at my iPad for very long after a 12 hour day in front of another computer monitor. I can look at the Kindle all day long because it’s e-ink and reads like paper.
I have the Kindle app and Nook app and iBook and everything else and they’re great, but if I’m reading a 300 page novel I’m not doing it on my iPad.
September 30, 2010 at 7:44 pm #704694
AndyParticipantAhem. Anybody interested in letting wsgolfer know whether they have a Kindle for sale?
September 30, 2010 at 8:07 pm #704695
cjboffoliParticipantAndy: After all of those adamant endorsements why on Earth would anyone with a Kindle want to part with it?! :-)
September 30, 2010 at 8:12 pm #704696
CarsonParticipantMaybe they don’t read? Maybe they like it so much, they keep buying the latest and greatest and have a few of them? I like paper and my ipad……
September 30, 2010 at 8:17 pm #704697
AndyParticipantChris, I would say something about the difficult economic times, but then it would switch from an iPad/Kindle debate to a “you damned liberals/no, you damned conservatives” throwdown, and wsgolfer would be no closer to his/her kindle.
Which is not to say that these forums ever get off-topic…
September 30, 2010 at 9:15 pm #704698
wsgolferMemberWow, surprised to return to such a lively thread!
I did look at all my options pretty closely. Ultimately the reasons I decided to purchase a Kindle were price and readability outdoors.
I’m a pretty big Apple fan. We have a MacBook, a HP Mini Hackintosh, and a pair of iPhones. Try as I can, I just can’t come up with a compelling reason why the iPad would be a better “simple book replacement”, which is what I’m looking for. Most of the other things the iPad can do (email, web browsing), I can do with either of our laptops, or iPhones. If I was going to buy a ‘couch’ computer, I’d at least want it to support multiple user accounts, a surprising and glaring omission in iOS4, IMO.
Thanks for the lively discussion.
wsgolfer
(also an AAPL shareholder).
September 30, 2010 at 9:34 pm #704699
KenParticipantTo start with, don’t buy a kindle from a third party. It works with an account from amazon. Your 3g access is included in the purchase price. The ipad requires a monthly data plan from your phone company (at&t is your only choice)
The E-ink screen is the same tech used on the sony reader.
I have not found a third party that can repair a kindle for less then you can buy another one. The same is true of the sony reader, but sony does not require that self created or edited pdf files be sent to them to have drm added.
On the other hand, if you lose or damage your kindle, you can order a new one and it will come loaded with all the books you had on it. The extended warranty has a price that will replace it once even if it is damaged rather than defective.
There is also a program via support, where you can trade in a kindle one for a kindle two or 89.00 plus shipping.
This kindle with wifi only, has to be within reach of your own wifi or a public wifi to download books or news sites since it does not include the free 3g, but it is quite a bit cheaper.
Get the 2 year extended warranty for 39.00
September 30, 2010 at 10:39 pm #704700
LucianMemberKindles also have a much longer battery life compared to the ipad (nearly a month between charges in our experience).
The fact that you can travel with it and get free 3G internet and wikipedia access anywhere almost makes it feel like a real-life “Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy”.
September 30, 2010 at 11:41 pm #704701
QueMemberI would love to hear how good people find the 3G browsing to be.
If it is good, that makes the Kindle more interesting…
October 1, 2010 at 4:17 am #704702
redblackParticipantque: that’s the point. if i want to read a book, i sure as hell don’t want the internet peeking over my shoulder.
but if you mean 3G as far as browsing the amazon store and downloading purely .txt or .pdf files, kindle’s whispernet is quick and painless.
and you can leave it off when you’re done shopping.
but the most obvious benefit is that having a kindle keeps me from killing trees to get print media.
oh. and there’s one more: no ads.
October 2, 2010 at 4:02 am #704703
QueMemberI am more thinking if I can use it to browse not just the amazon store but to look at ALL of the internets… Like maybe check out the WSB for example…
October 2, 2010 at 4:17 am #704704
BigRedMemberI just bought the new 3G wifi kindle. I LOVE it! Can’t stop reading …
Que- you can browse but it feels really sloooow….
October 2, 2010 at 4:32 am #704705
abstractParticipantI am just waiting for the android version. :)
October 2, 2010 at 6:03 am #704706
redblackParticipantque: you can subscribe to blogs, yeah. kindle’s not really geared toward that, though.
want to subscribe to huffpo? not really geared toward that, but no problem.
kindle is more for subscribing to weekly standard, rolling stone, or the nation. there are many hundreds of magazine subscriptions available.
but not so much for the intertoobz, see? more like for bookworms.
if i want a computer, i’ll buy a computer. or an i-pad, replete with all of its touch-screeny ads and glossy flash-ware and noises and crap. bleh.
if i want to get away from the intertoobz while using the intertoobz’ beneficial networking-book-downloading thingies and a non-tree-killing, ad-free book, i’ll buy a kindle.
not all of us like the ringing soundz and constant contact.
see?
and, no. i’m not old.
October 2, 2010 at 8:11 am #704707
QueMemberThanks for the condesending tone RedBlack!!! It is really refreshing to be spoken to like I am stupid. I LOVE THAT!!!
You assume that I am not a bookworm. In fact, I am quite the well read individual. I was simply wondering what the browser functionality was like on the Kindle.
Please don’t take that tone with people on here. It is not necessary, kind or welcome.
October 2, 2010 at 4:37 pm #704708
redblackParticipanti didn’t mean to be condescending, que; nor did i assume that you’re stupid. i was just trying to get the point across – and with some difficulty, it seemed – that the kindle is not really intended for web surfing. for another thing, the screen is black and white.
edit: maybe these excerpts from the user’s guide will be more helpful:
“The Kindle Store offers thousands of Kindle blogs, including up-to-the-minute news feeds and topical blogs. Blog categories include business, technology, sports, politics, culture, entertainment, humor, and science. Kindle blogs are sent to you wirelessly throughout the day, allowing you to keep current. Unlike traditional feeds, which often only provide headlines, Kindle downloads the complete feed onto the device so you can read them even when you are not wirelessly connected. All blog subscriptions are delivered wirelessly and start with a free trial.”
so you can view blogs with a subscription service. some are free, i imagine.
“Your Kindle comes with an Experimental application called Basic Web, which is a Web browser optimized to read Web sites that are primarily text-based. It supports JavaScript, SSL and cookies but does not support media plug-ins (Flash, Shockwave, etc.) or Java applets.”
emphasis is mine.
October 2, 2010 at 6:02 pm #704709
tom kelleyParticipantYou folks are talking kindle v. i-pad it seems. Thanks for the info.
Has anyone thought about kindle v. nook, the latter being Barnes and Nobles e-reader.
I was planning on buying a kindle until a friend said she had heard that the nook was superior. And what about Sony?
October 2, 2010 at 7:21 pm #704710
ellenaterMemberNever heard of those but I also think the KIndle is a better bookreader. The iPad is more of a toy (to me). I got to play with both while waiting in line for my iPhone and was surprised by how much I liked the Kindle and by the readability outdoors, etc. I am also an avid Apple fan and own many Apple products. I just think Kindle is better for what it does. When I sit down to read a book, I don’t actually want to surf the web. Reading is more of an escape from the sort of thing so the Kindle is better in that regard, too.
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