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  • #650878
    mellaw6565
    Member

    I’ve been on these roads consistently over the past few days – probably more than most in W. Seattle. I don’t need a lecture or reminder from Peggy Sue about her road or hill – those of us with common sense know how to handle things.

    All I want is for her to keep the kids out of the street and not tell the rest of us to watch out for them – we have the right of way and in light of the various newscasts the last 48 hours showing sledding injuries and discussing dangerous sled practices, I think her post was unnecessary and opposite of what’s being preached by experts and others.

    #650902
    celeste17
    Participant

    bump

    #650832
    ellenater
    Member

    lmao, GHO.

    No, it’s not stolen. Fed-X is just dumb. 5 trucks passed me on my way down the hill. I think they just drive around town looking busy. I’ve yet to see anyone get out of a truck. Maybe they’re remote control trucks. Or maybe they’re sad that the UPS guys are cuter. At least when all is said and done I’ll have a MacBook and not a Dell. ;)

    I WANT that cheesecake…

    #650875
    BookGal
    Participant

    1. I do not appreciate the venomous nature nor the name calling responses to my initial post.

    2. No where in my post did I say I condone those who choose to go sledding etc on our street. It is their choice.

    3. Drivers choose to speed up and down this street and there have been countless near accidents – regardless of the weather or road conditions.

    4. Where exactly did I say in my post that I didn’t want cars being driven on the street because people were sledding, etc. on it?

    5. FACT: The street is situated on a hill.

    6. FACT: There IS a slab of ICE under the packed snow on the entire street (including near the curbs, and around the roundabouts).

    7. FACT: The hill has a steep grade.

    8. FACT: There are no parked cars on this particular street. Which may be why people have chosen to sled here?

    9.FACT: We have heard a myriad of spinning tires, and have seen cars, trucks, and SUVs sliding around on the street since the snow fall last weekend.

    10. LOGIC: this street is NOT entirely SAFE to drive DUE TO ROAD CONDITIONS and the steepness of the grade.

    11. So, is it “ridiculous” that I only wanted to warn people that if they choose to drive, on any street – that they should exercise caution? Perhaps just slowing down and paying a little more attention? Taking in consideration the freezing temperatures, the condition of the (side) streets, and the possible unexpected appearance of youngsters sledding? It doesn’t matter that you have a clunker, a hybrid, a SUV, a 4-wheel drive, a sleigh, or a tank. Things happen, and they can happen very very quickly.

    #650947
    wingme
    Member

    what kills me about the elevated option is the decreased capacity (from the current 3 lanes and exits to 2 lanes, no exits). Why? because 3 lanes cost more money! with all the new migration to WS, 3 lanes would be a no-brainer. our mayor sure as hell didn’t think adding a couple billion on for a deep-bore tunnel was too costly, so i don’t get all the concerns about 2 more lanes. again, IT’S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY! it’s about room for waterfront development. and wait til the rest of seattle wakes up about how all this will affect our beloved pike place market. anyone remember the 70’s when it was last threatened?

    #650828
    ellenater
    Member

    And UPS gets the job done! It’s werid but I think the UPS guys are cuter than the Fed-X (X as in “non existent”) guys. Must be the independent contractor thing. Damn you Apple! I bet Dell uses UPS!

    #650930
    ellenater
    Member

    so the Cliff Mass report had a link to his blog where I found this:

    “From KATU weather site:

    A WINTER STORM WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR MUCH OF OUR AREA INCLUDING THE PORTLAND METRO FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. SNOW WILL BECOME POSSIBLE BY NOON SATURDAY AND IS EXPECTED TO TRANSITION INTO FREEZING RAIN BY EARLY SUNDAY MORNING. ICE ACCUMULATION WILL BE POSSIBLE THROUGH THE DAY SUNDAY. WARMING TEMPERATURES AND A TRANSITION TO RAIN LOOKS POSSIBLE SUNDAY EVENING. THIS STORM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BRING DOWN TREES AND POWERLINES. PLEASE STAY UPDATED.”

    The irony is, I think we could make it down but then my brother, who lives in just outside of Portland, wouldn’t be able to make it in. Or out, really. And if he isn’t coming, then the niece and nephew aren’t coming. :( It’s not looking good!

    Thanks, wingme. Time to visit the liquor store.

    If the rest of you go, BE CAREFUL.

    #650826
    JanS
    Participant

    Oh, please let Santa start using UPS…I wanna see my cute bald blue-eyed UPS guy…makes my day – hehehehe

    #650867
    mellaw6565
    Member

    Peggy Sue – your post is absolutely ridiculous.

    #650921
    meg
    Member

    We are headed to Cannon Beach in the am…so we were wondering the same thing. Curious if anyone has opinions (hopefully not hype!) about going to longview and then over & down?

    #650917
    ellenater
    Member

    Jen,

    There’s supposed to be one there (Portland) earlier! But it’s hard to sort out fact from hype. The parka boys will look for any excuse to don their gay apparel. :)

    I’m going to watch NWCN.

    #650901
    celeste17
    Participant

    If anyone is going and can pick me up I can give some time. And I have a package of diapers in my car for them. Was going to give them at the Holiday Get Together and haven’t been able to drop them off.

    #650864
    beachdrivegirl
    Participant

    Ditto to charlabob.

    PeggySue if you had posted this in April I would assume this was a fools day joke. I pray that if you use that type of judgement that you are not a parent. It is absolutely asine to expect cars to stay off the streets b/c you would like the opportunity to play in them.

    For those that understand safety here are a few parks in West Seattle that are a bit better suited for playing than in the street.

    A. Alki Beach Park – http://www.seattle.gov – (206) 684-4075 – 13 reviews

    B. City of Seattle Parks & Recreation Department: Environmental-Education – http://www.ci.seattle.wa.us – (206) 684-7434 – 2 reviews

    C. Lincoln Park – http://www.seattle.gov – (206) 684-4075 – 9 reviews

    D. City of Seattle Parks & Recreation Department: High Point – http://www.seattle.gov – (206) 684-7422 – More

    E. Skyline Secure Park – http://www.skylinesecurepark.com – (206) 769-6966 – More

    F. Fauntleroy Park – http://www.seattle.gov – (206) 684-4075 – More

    G. White Center Park – king.wsu.edu – (206) 296-4542 – More

    H. County of King King County Parks and Recreation: Lakewood Park SW – maps.google.com – (206) 205-5275 – More

    I. Lowman Beach Park – maps.google.com – (206) 684-4075 – 2 reviews

    J. Luna Park Hoa

    #589087
    WSB
    Keymaster

    Just posted this in the main “Friday afternoon” story but also wanted to call it out here. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. From Nancy Woodland at WestSide Baby:

    >>The weather has impacted our operations this week to a near standstill.

    This is especially concerning timing with orders waiting for children

    expecting warm clothes and toys for Christmas. We need extra hands to help

    us sort the many donations we’ve received (yeah!) and to fill orders for

    pick up by our agency partners on Monday. We’ve been closed for most of

    this week but will be open on Saturday from 10am to 3pm for volunteers,

    donations and pick-ups. Although our parking lot can be treacherous we’re

    inviting people to make their way to White Center to help out if they are

    comfortable driving. Because of the volume, we’d love to have adult or

    experienced volunteers only so that we can make the most of the time we’ll

    have tomorrow before the snow hits again. Even an hour or two makes a huge

    difference.

    Because of this week’s unpredictability, please call our phone in the

    morning or check our website if there is concerning weather between this

    afternoon and tomorrow. Of course, today our voicemail outgoing message

    isn’t working properly so we hope that will be a good tool for communication

    tomorrow.

    We also plan to be open Monday 9-3 (weather permitting) and possibly on

    Tuesday too. Thanks so much to everyone who supports WestSide Baby!>>

    http://www.westsidebaby.org

    #649598

    In reply to: Only the lonely

    JanS
    Participant

    Hey, I agree. And…how easy was that to talk with them, sitting at the next table. Who initiated that conversation? I suppose I’m just a friendly person. If I’m out with a female friend, and there is a male person at the next table, if I want to initiate a conversation, I will. It doesn’t necessarily mean that I’m looking to get picked up….it means that I’m friendly. I suppose it’s nice if you find out the other person is not “taken”, and you hit it off, but…unless you’re specifically out looking to hook up, good conversation is just that, good conversation. There is nothing scary about men (well, most of them), and I say the same thing about most women – not scary.

    I think that approaching someone at the bar who one finds attractive is equally difficult for either sex. And who likes a pick-up line anyway. But making conversation like you did last night with your friend is a much better approach. And who knows where it would go. And I see nothing wrong with women initiating that kind of conversation. And if the guy(s) you bring into the conversation is non-responsive, then he’s not worth your time any way.

    #650790
    Huindekmi
    Participant

    Some of the comments on here remind of back when wearing seat belts first became mandatory. People opposed to the idea would rationalize their choice with an analogy like: “A friend of mine (alt: cousin, guy I know, guy I read about in the paper, etc.) was in an accident where a semi (or other large item) fell over onto the car. He saw it coming and dove down onto the floorboards. The car was crushed, but he came out unscathed. If he was wearing a seat belt, he wouldn’t have been able to do that. And that’s why I’ll never wear a seat belt.”

    Basically, taking a rare case, citing it as the norm and justifying their behavior using that one bad example. Ignoring the fact that seat belts improve a driver’s safety in the vast number of cases.

    Same basic thing here. Someone doesn’t like clearing their sidewalks and justifies it by citing the rare case above.

    Walking the dog this morning, I got to see all the possible results. There were the few people who shoveled the sidewalks and put down de-icer. Those guys are great. It’s like there wasn’t a storm at all.

    The next best were the people who shoveled but didn’t put down salt. There were a few scattered spots where the snow got packed down and didn’t clear off completely, but the sidewalk as a whole had much better traction. And today, now that the sun is out, the dark pavement absorbs the sunlight, warms up and clears off the last remaining bits.

    Then there were the people who didn’t bother to shovel, but threw a bunch of salt into the 6″ of snow on their walks. That made an interesting mix of slush and solid ice. Seriously, this makes absolutely no sense.

    And the vast majority didn’t do anything. Their walks were uneven packed snow and sheer ice that developed in areas of heavy traffic or southern exposure. Difficult to walk on, and only going to become a bigger mess tonight after the sun thaws parts and then have it refreeze even worse. If we then get a another snow storm on top of that – you’ll be taking your life into your hands trying to walk on it.

    The legal advice given above is a rationalization. Nothing more.

    If you don’t clear your walks and someone slips and falls, you are liable. The odds of that happening are much greater than if you had obeyed the law and cleared the walks of snow and ice. Attempting to follow the law would be taken into account as a mitigating circumstance in the one rare case cited above – likely resulting in lowered liability.

    So, if you’re worried about legal liability w/r/t icy sidewalks — you’re much better off obeying the law and clearing the snow and ice from your sidewalks.

    #650553
    Zenguy
    Participant

    Bottom line, I have a contract with Dish! I do not have a contract with Fisher.

    I expect Dish to provide the service for which I pay them, if a subcontractor raises the prices I expect I will pay more. But do not cut off service.

    And using their venue to try and pass around propaganda is just wrong as well.

    #650552
    Bonnie
    Participant

    Very interesting discussion.

    I heard that the reason Verizon isn’t in Seattle is because the city of Seattle has a contract with Comcast and Verizon can’t break into our market. Don’t know if it is true or not.

    Might be time to just give up the tv and save $80-$100 a month!

    #650789
    cakeitseasy
    Member

    Have your sidewalks cleared is your civic duty.

    It’s like, what, 60 feet of sidewalk or less on average? Takes like what, 20 minutes if you’re able bodied?

    I’ve heard some excuses in my day, but…*raspberry*!. Science? Lawyers? You must really hate shoveling. Sure, virgin snow has some traction…but that doesn’t last long and then you really have a dangerous,icy, uneven, mess in a long cold snap.

    Look,some people can’t shovel their walks (old, sick, out of town, don’t have a shovel, are from Hawaii and don’t know how, whatever…in which case, you should hire someone to do it) but others do nothing because they are used to it melting right away, or are just plain negligent or do a poor job, resulting in the aforementioned slippy/clear situation. But for the love of snow, don’t try to justify not having your sidewalk shoveled with merely a few inches on the ground (this isn’t Buffalo!). What about people who have to push wheels on sidewalks? Walkers, strollers, deliveries…wheelchairs? It takes about as much effort as clearing the car. (unless your sidewalk area is unusually large for Seattle). So… slip the neighbor teen $10 to do it if you can’t/won’t.

    It’s simple really. Get out there and shovel *fresh* snow *before* it gets trampled or melty/freezy. Do a good job, and you’ll be rewarded with nice, dry, bare sidewalk. Probably won’t even need salt or sand, just maintain with sweeping until the temps go up. Voila, you’re a good citizen. Or, at least do it for the Postman, and his cold, wet feet…and wheelchairs.

    btw, my walkway and sidewalk are still bone dry. Just a few tiny patches of ice on the stairway and some snow dust blowing around. No salt or sand.

    #650551
    JoB
    Participant

    yes, i do believe that…

    possibly only because their contracts with comcast and direct aren’t up yet…

    but i would very much like to know what the business connection is between direct and Fisher because although direct was mentioned by name in their letter to their viewers.. comcast wasn’t… and that generally points to a business relationship somewhere…

    Fisher doesn’t want part of the money that dish charges to receive all broadcast stations… they are already getting that… and as yet no-one has released any figures that would give us the information we could use to determine how much of what we pay dish for local programming is actually being paid out.

    Fisher wants to be paid the same as cable networks… for content that is available over the airwaves for free…

    that is why their list of costs per network don’t include any for broadcast television networks.

    i can see why they want it..

    what i can’t see is why you want to pay it.

    especially since you can eliminate the cost altogether with an inexpensive set of rabbit ears…

    of course, the fair way would be a pricing list that would allow you to select the stations you want to watch and pay only for those…

    i suspect that even at what would be considered exorbitant rates, we would pay far less than half of the 70 a month we currently pay each month for our service… since our list of favorites includes less than 20 stations… and some of those are only listed for the illusion of selection when channel surfing.

    We personally subsidize a lot of worthless television programming for those who think that the number of channels is equal to it’s content.

    This is worth considering when companies start playing this blame game… it’s easier to vent your anger at DISH.. or KOMO right now than think about the bigger picture.

    If we think that broadcast stations should demand the same revenue from satellite and other providers as that charged by cable networks… are we willing to pay for that?

    And if broadcast networks make the transition to cable networks.. who will provide the services that were initially negotiated for citizens in the license agreements that those providers use for our airwaves? Are you willing to give up on the public broadcasting that is mandated now?

    Are you willing to let television become a commodity that is available only to those who can afford satellite or cable service? Because when the broadcast towers are no the major source of profit for broadcast networks, what will force them to continue broadcasting?

    This is so not just about what Dish pays KOMO.

    though if you can be convinced of that it will be easier to let broadcast tv go the way of many other public services. Those who can afford will get the service.. the rest will be left in the dark.

    are you ready to bet your future on being one of those who is never left in the dark?

    #650803
    TammiWS
    Member

    Both of my route 22 drivers – to downtown and home from – did a GREAT job. They took it slow and didnt take any chances.

    I asked my morning driver how do they ever train for this type of weather and he said ‘remember how we did it last year’….. Unless we send our drivers to Montana to train how could they know how to navigate this? And in an articulated bus, once the back end starts swaying getting control of it would be pretty difficult I’d imagine?

    Not to mention, there are so many roads to sand in the city – how do you prioritize?

    We as a city just arent prepared in many ways to deal with snow…but, I will say my drivers yesterday were awesome!

    #589084
    yikes
    Member

    My dog ran away from our house at 36th and Edmonds about an hour ago. A man tried to catch him… and grabbed him by his tags, which came off. Brett is running around the 36th to 39th Aves and I think Alaska and Edmunds.

    He is a Norwegian Elkhound (black/white with curly tail, abot 50lbs) and is wearing jingle bells. He is very dumb about cars!

    Please call me if you see him at 206 349-1419.

    THANK YOU

    #650802
    JoB
    Participant

    a bus has a lot more weight and therefore a lot more traction.

    the idiot who sent an articulated bus out in this weather is the one who guaranteed it would get stuck in spite of chains…

    WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??????

    why are bus drivers not getting the kind of training that would allow them to be outstanding in weather crunches like this?

    why are the roads they use not continually sanded since a functioning bus system almost guarantees fewer cars on the road?

    it would be good if we could learn from this experience…

    in the meantime.. cudos to WSB members.. and many others… who have shown that they appreciate good neighbors enough to be one…

    Tis the season…

    #650801
    CMP
    Participant

    That’s kind of a lame rant on Metro. I was on the articulated 22 yesterday morning when it got stuck trying to get on the WS bridge at 5:30 am(before conditions got really bad). There were chains on but our driver couldn’t get the bus to move. A pickup truck is a little smaller and more manageable than a bus so go easy on Metro. Try driving a huge bus around instead of a smaller vehicle and see how well you do…I bet it’s not easy. I say the bus drivers are doing a great job given the road conditions. If you want to rant, complain about the SDOT instead!

    #650549
    JoB
    Participant

    i am having trouble seeing why DISH gets the blame for this one.

    Do you think they should have just paid whatever Fisher demanded so that you would get KOMO?

    and if so.. would you have objected to a rate increase to pay for that channel.. and the other network channels that would have demanded an increase when their contracts came due?

    and if so.. how much more are you willing to pay?

    because that is the bottom line.

    check Fisher broadcasting’s latest profit statements and you will find they are increasingly profitable.. which they contribute to dropping “unprofitable” stations in less lucrative markets…

    As for what ABC thinks… the major networks have been looking for a way out of the regulated contracts they currently have..

    you know. the contracts that became less profitable when they no longer held a monopoly..

    and into cable networks which have little federal oversight.

    ABC isn’t screaming at the top of their lungs that they are being denied access by DISH.. they are standing quietly on the sidelines waiting to see if FISHER and DIRECT tv can break DISH.

    Best case scenario for them would be if Fisher won and nobody really noticed… then they could increase what they charge FISHER…

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