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  • #701624

    In reply to: The First Amendment

    dobro
    Participant

    “Tell me this isn’t about prejudice. Give me a good argument why this is an issue all of a sudden that has nothing to do with these people being Muslim. I’ll listen.”

    There aren’t any such arguments. Certainly none have been presented here and in the things I’ve read and listened to I see nothing that isn’t about prejudice, hate, and fear. The thing we’re seeing mostly is craven cowardice on the part of many commentators (it is sad to hear Howard Dean buy into the baloney) and lots of denial from those repeating the list of fake arguments of their own prejudice.

    #701903
    mommym
    Participant

    Hi MissMandy – we will have 2 spots open starting after Labor Day at our home daycare. We have a great, small, in-home daycare with lots of love and fun activities every day. We live across the street from Lincoln Park and have a nice backyard with lots of bikes, a play toy and slides. We read books daily, have circle time, work on number, letters & colors. We do lots of art projects and learn to share, play and have manners in a group setting.

    You can access us here:

    http://www.munchkinjunction.com

    Good luck in your search !

    Mindi

    #701777

    Thank you for all the suggestions and concern, including calling ghostbusters. Yes, the cat is now out of the tree. She belongs to my son and daughter-in-law He climbed up and got her because NOTHING would persuade her to come down, not even tuna. She ate and found a quiet place to sleep. She seems fine, with no injuries.

    #701904
    JoB
    Participant

    woo hoo!

    different boat from the duwamish tour

    but the same captain :)))

    captainDave
    Participant

    See the sights of West Seattle as we cruise from Harbor Island out the Duwamish and past Alki Beach. As we cross the sound and approach the uninhabited little island blanketed with fir trees, the natural beaches will come into view. We will circumnavigate the island along its pristine driftwood adorned shoreline so you can see how nature meets the sea.

    This is a special two and a half hour introductory tour I am offering on our recently renovated classic charter yacht CORSAIR launched in 1939. Pack a picnic and camera and come aboard for only $199 (That’s less than $35 per person if you have 6 people). This is a private tour and I am limited to six people. This special offer is extended to West Seattle residents only and is subject to availability.

    I am a Coast Guard licensed captain with over 40 years experience on the water. You can see my web site at http://www.cedarwave.com

    The boat is vey comfortable and reminiscent of the early days of yachting. Here is a link to the boat: http://www.cedarwave.com/fleet/MV-Corsair.php

    You can contact me through the web site or call (206) 355-0133

    #701620

    In reply to: The First Amendment

    JanS
    Participant

    I listened to an interview last night that he gave to Keith Olberman. He sounded like an idiot. He had no point. His argument for his stance was disjointed. Makes one want to scream at them. He suggested that there be a “sit down” to discuss the issue in a “peaceful” manner, and maybe come up with a compromise, but kept saying that they have every right to build there. When pushed to expand what he meant by “compromise”, he had no real answer. That’s because there is none. How far away is far enough away? In stead of two blocks from GZ, should it be 4? There’s already one there at 4 blocks…so should it be 6? 3 inches? What? Who is doing the compromising..certainly not those who object. Again, it all boils down to one thing…the only reason this is an issue is because they are Muslim, and too many people believe that Muslim= terrorist. It’s prejudice, plain and simple.

    This dilapidated property sat there for 8 years for sale. No one wanted it, no one wanted to develop it. It is derelict, has fallen into disrepair. Is that respectful to the area? People didn’t care about that. There was no groundswell of protesters saying that letting the area 2 blocks from GZ rot is disrespectful. Enter in the dastardly Muslims who decided to take this derelict building, build a cultural center, with gym, cooking school, a prayer room. Oh, my, no, we can’t have that. Tell me this isn’t about prejudice. Give me a good argument why this is an issue all of a sudden that has nothing to do with these people being Muslim. I’ll listen.

    #701843
    Admiral935
    Participant

    Glad you posted as I forgot to go earlier today. Just walked over and really didn’t see any noteable or blowout deals either. The beer aisle was empty aside from a bottle or six pack or two. Wine aisle 1/3or less remains. Magazine’s empty. Greet cards not discounted. Everything else seemingly as normal tonite – (edit) a stocking crew was even in replenishing Produce dept, as well as other aisles. I know it’s over, I just can’t let them go.

    It’ll be a tough year without them! I just realized I won’t be able to go there at Midnite, on foot, to get a Rug Doctor. :(

    noname
    Member

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    #701617

    In reply to: The First Amendment

    JoB
    Participant

    DP..

    it’s not a mosque

    it’s not next to ground zero

    there is nothing disrespectful about a community center.

    what part of that is difficult for you to understand?

    yes, muslims are worried that inflamed anti-muslim sentiment will spill over onto their local mosques..

    they have reason to worry.

    some idiot tried to blow up a mosque during prayer with 60 people inside recently.

    He failed because he was too stupid to place the bomb inside.

    but there are plenty of idiots being inflammed by made up controversys like this one..

    so that probably won’t be the last attempt…

    and maybe one of them is smart enough to rectify his buddy’s mistake.

    It’s not Americans who have to worry about terrorism from local muslims..

    but local muslims who have to worry about terrorism from good ole Americans :(

    #701616

    In reply to: The First Amendment

    JanS
    Participant

    oh, good grief…let’s not lecture, OK? Between GZ, and the location of this “mosque”, that everyone says is going to be disrespectful, there are porn shops, head shops, strip joints. Is that respectful of the area? Does anyone bring that up? Has anyone petitioned to tell these people that they can’t have what they want there? Of course not. It’s just this “mosque”, because it’s being done by Muslims…and we all know they’re just terrorists in disguise, don’t we?;-> You all can sit here and “discuss” “debate”, however much you want. But the truth is we all know why so many people are jumping on this particular thing. Everyone dances around it, tries to make nice..”I have nothing against freedom of religion …BUT.” If you support the 1st amendment and freedom of/from religion, then there are no BUTS…PERIOD. If there is, then you’re lying to yourself..and those of us who you’re saying it to. Plain and simple.

    And…DP…show me exactly in JoB’s remarks where she says outright “you’re part of the conspiracy”. Am I just not reading careful enough?

    Or is that meant to get a reaction, in other words, inflame? I won’t tell you how to present your side if you’ll refrain from doing the same with others. It’s condescending, to say the least.

    Apologies for sounding cranky…guess I am a little cranky this week.

    #701828
    inactive
    Member

    I had a cat who made it to a ripe old age, but the last 2 1/2 were a slow, steady deterioration much like what you describe with your ole’ puddy tat. Mine was a female, so a bit different in that regard. But you mentioned the weight loss and over all weakening condition and that rang a bell with me.

    As she aged, I had regular “geriatric panels” done on her to monitor a variety of things which are indicators of different kinds of conditions. The one I recall the vet pointing out as most significant was a gradual kidney failure. In the last couple of years, she drank massive amounts of water and became thinner while at the same time her behavior(s) changed. It appeared to me her version of a kind of senility. I don’t know that it was in FACT that, but the way it presented to me it was. Eventually, she would just kind of wail as if her day to day experience was absent of a sense of well-being. There was little I could do to bring her relief of whatever it was which distressed her so, all day and all night. All this time the only thing the vet ever saw was that diminished functioning of kidneys. Even so, it was my decision to let her go. I just knew, after so many, many years, she was absolutely miserable. It is a hard decision which every owner of a geriatric cat has the potential to face. It is different for every animal/owner about when the time is right.

    It was so very hard to let go when I did but for me it would have been selfish not to. No amount of rehydrating her, or protecting her or any thing would reverse her condition. She was distressed and confused and disoriented and fearful and just was no longer herself.

    The vet told me I was doing the brave thing, instead of waiting for the absolute end and complete shut down of her kidneys. I did not feel brave, I can assure you. I felt very sad to lose such a long-time companion who seemed to be asking me to help her. It’s tough.

    #701615

    In reply to: The First Amendment

    DP
    Member

    JoB, I’m having trouble matching up what you’re saying with what I’m saying . . .

    My main point is that good people are going to be hurt by this mosque, “prayer room,” or whatever you want to call it. (There’s also going to be a 9/11 memorial there by the way which, ironically, may be part of the problem.)

    You, like dobro, seem to believe that everyone who feels the way I do on this issue is in on some kind of conspiracy . . . But why don’t you address the AP article I linked or the comments that the American Muslim guy made?

    I’ll give you a tip on how to argue your position, on this or any other topic. And I mean this in the most sincere way, because I want to continue having interesting debates with you:

    1. Avoid using terms like “hate mongering,” “inflammatory comments,” “invented controversy,” “careful orchestration,” etc.
    2. Don’t spend a lot of time talking about your opponent’s motiviation.
    3. Try to discern as soon as possible whether it’s facts you and your opponent disagree on, or rather interpretation of the facts.
    4. If it’s facts you disagree on, go out and get better, or more credible, facts than your opponent has. Establish the credibility of your sources as quickly and strongly as you can. Don’t try to discredit your opponent’s facts or sources until you’ve already established some of your own, and then try to discredit your opponent’s facts —only as a last resort.
    5. If it’s interpretation of the facts that you disagree on, argue accordingly, but try to keep an open mind throughout, because interpretation of fact is much more variable than questions of accuracy or relevance.
    6. Use sarcasm and hyperbole sparingly, and only for effect.

    Example of how you should be making your case on this:

    It’s a prayer room, not a mosque, David. It’s part of a much larger commercial project. It’s only going to be X x Y square feet. It’s not going to have a dome. It’s not going to be visible from GZ, etc. This is information New Yorkers aren’t aware of.

    You know, I think people are getting bent out of shape over this. Some people [not you, David] are using this to bash Muslims, and that worries me a little.

    Example of how you should not be making your case:

    What’s your game, DP? What’s wrong with you? Don’t you understand the facts of this case?

    I’m open to having my mind changed on this, JoB. In fact, I almost had myself convinced of the other side for a second there . . . But you’re going to have to come up with something better than “you’re part of a conspiracy” to make that happen.

    So go ahead and be tough on my arguments.

    Just watch what you say about my chupacabra.

    —David

     

     

    P.S. dobro Can you include an excerpt from your salon.com piece? You don’t have to put it in a blockquote box; just wrap it with quotation marks, so we’ll know it’s a quotation. Anyway, pick one fact or quote that you think is really valuable, and if it seems intrigueing, I’ll drop in and check it out. The thing about “hating the Bill of Rights” is clever, but it’s only going to work for people who are already on that side of the fence. Thanks.

    #699831
    Carson
    Participant

    Please. Michael Moore is a great entertainer, nothing more. When you edit what you shoot, you can make anyone and any situation look very bad. Years ago I tried to explain to a friend how he works.

    Me: Have you even been arrested?

    Friend: (who I know was popped 20 years ago for weed) Yes, I have been arrested

    .

    .

    …. a few questions later…

    .

    .

    Me: Who do you support for President?

    Friend: McCain

    .

    .

    .

    There you have it, convicted drug dealers support McCain.

    Its factually correct, if not a bit misleading. Michael Moore is just a little better at the entertainment part of it.

    #701793

    In reply to: 35th Water tower

    hosedown
    Participant

    They were recoating the tank (slightly more involved than repainting) and doing some structural upgrade/repairs to the roof. They covered the reservoir a while back (due to a Council Ordinance which arose from concerns over terrorism after 9/11) and the City policy is, once the reservoirs are underground, put a park on top. Why waste the space? Similar projects are all over town, such as what is now Cal Anderson Park.

    #637179

    In reply to: RANT- Alki Lumber

    villagegreen
    Participant

    Had a terrbile customer service experience at Alki Lumber as well. I’m just one guy and was only looking for one piece of wood. Obviously, not their client base.

    Anyway, ordered decking from Stewart Lumber down on Rainier and had an awesome experience.

    @JoB – as for the scruffy appearance, as condodweller said, try living by it. I’m all for a little scruff around the edges – definitely prefer that to a sterile Blahvue look – but their appearance goes well beyond scruffy. It’s downright sh*tty. They’re like the crappy neighbor on your block that has multiple disused cars out front up on blocks and trash overflowing into their yard. There’s a difference between having ‘character’ and just being a nuisance.

    #637178

    In reply to: RANT- Alki Lumber

    Carson
    Participant

    I never saw this thread before either and I will have to say I would have both Rants and Raves about Alki. We bought our house a little over 2 years ago and they were they first place I went shopping. They had a reasonable delivery charge and decent prices, and for me, same day delivery. I couldn’t have been happier. I soon realized I needed my own truck and went there to grab a few dozen 2×4. When I went to pick them out, they were some of the worst lumber I had seen. The guy helping me commented that a real carpenter could make them straight. Really? So I didn’t go back for a while. Slowly I went back for a few things here and there, all good. This past spring I need some custom Trusses and 7 squares of cedar shakes so I called them for a quote. They were about 25% higher on the shakes (Bought from Issaquah Cedar) and more on the trusses (Bought from Tri County Truss). So while I would go there in a pinch, they are never my first option any more.

    #701809
    HelperMonkey
    Participant

    actually, I heard on NPR this morning that the sudden spike in jobless claims was from military personnel coming home and filing unemployment, as well as the temporary census workers no longer having temporary census work.

    But I am sure some are going to blame Obama. that’s to be expected. same people who think he’s a secret Muslim, because that’s what Fox News told them to think.

    #701799
    dustin
    Participant

    I’ll second what hollyplace said. Prolotariat is AWESOME! Great pizza and the staff is super friendly. A word of caution though: it’s dangerously close to Full Tilt ice cream so you might end up wandering over there while you’re waiting for your pie to finish cooking. I speak from personal experience. :)

    #699316
    HMC Rich
    Participant

    Oh Catlbob. Not bothered, just making a very good observation. I see at some liberal universities the Introductory Class of “Demonization of Republicans” is a humanities course. The young Republicans call it the “How to look Revolutionary and still not get laid”. The real good students get Mao’s little red book and his latest book, How To Kill 70 Million Friends and not feel Guilt, or Che Guevara’s “Lets paint the prison walls red”.

    (Disclaimer – I do not want it said that I am accusing Democrats of being murderers. No No No. Only Communists are killers).

    Oh trust me, I have seen “my side” spew out the vitriol in other places but usually it pales in comparison to a good old left wing dogfight or feeding frenzy.

    Any time I feel down I just read an Anne Coulter book and I feel refreshed. My, she is good at pointing out the hypocrisy of the left. MMMM. MMMM. Good!!!

    It would disturb many leftists to actually say something good about the right. But you can’t because then it would legitimize the enemy.

    But hey, slam us all you want. You see, unlike Mrs. Pelosi (they need to be investigated), we believe in the first amendment for everyone. We do not hate everything and find everything wrong with the world, and I do find it difficult to be a jerk.

    Truly.

    Wink.

    Smirk.

    Lights cigarette and blows smoke in face. “Excuse me, I do hope you don’t get cancer from second hand smoke. The Federal Government Death Panel might find you don’t qualify for Avistan or some other cancer fighting drug”.

    Better yet, Go eat a happy meal before it is banned.

    I guess it’s a bit late. Thanks for letting me rant and rave. Yes, it was in poor taste. But smoking does kill your taste buds.

    JoB. Are not right wing extremists Anarchists? Corporate Lawyers and Financiers dressed in suits might be ruthless but I don’t believe they are extremists. If you want to read more about it or join go to this blog. http://www.rightwingextremist.org/ Hmmmm pretty scary stuff. I bet this is on Janet Napolitanos watch list.

    PS JoB. Pleeeassse tell me one more time how awful Faux News is. Snookums, I am waiting with bated breath. Goodnight Darling. Pinch hubby for me too!! I’ll do the same to my Angel for you.

    #635640
    Al
    Participant

    There’s a bike detour coming up very shortly. I can’t find any information about it on the SDOT Spokane Viaduct site http://www.cityofseattle.net/transportation/spokanestreetdetour.htm.

    The detour is located, when heading into the city, east on Spokane St north side path, to south on E. Marginal. Signage for the bike detour is up and very large – which is good since there is a metal chain link fence that will block the entire regular bike/ped route to the E. Marginal/Spokane intersection.

    It looks like cyclists and pedestrians will be routed through what used to be part of the truck layover parking lot. I didn’t notice any signage as I rode southbound on E. Marginal directing me to travel through the detour area to the west, presumably the route will be better marked in the next day or so for those cyclists traveling southbound who are headed west to the lower bridge.

    There is a tricky part – the west part of the detour “path” that transitions from the sidewalk on the north side of Spokane St to the paved parking lot is gravel. This gravel portion (consisting of 1″ gravel pieces) is on a slight curve as well. I was amazed enough this afternoon to stop and gape at it for a moment; if I hit that gravel traveling my normal speed on thin tires I would very likely loose purchase on the surface and skid/fall. I did not see any “GRAVEL” or “LOOSE SURFACE” signs in the area will be so cyclists be warned to watch for this. I have encountered this type of situation in the past at another construction site that did not have a warning and it was not a pleasant experience.

    I’ve contacted SDOT with some questions and will follow up.

    In the meantime here is some contact information if you have any questions or concerns:

    LeAnne Nelson, SDOT Community Relations, 206-684-3897,

    LeAnne.Nelson@seattle.gov

    OR

    Paul Elliott, SDOT Community Relations, 206-684-5321,

    Paul.Elliott@seattle.gov

    I also cc’d these two groups.

    Seattle Bike Board (SBAB): bikeboard@seattle.gov

    and

    Walk and Bike Seattle: walkandbike@seattle.gov

    #701711
    dutchelm
    Member

    i was shocked by so many replies to my lament about sleepless nights and the train whistles. I loved all of them. what a nice welcome. thank you so much!

    #701698

    In reply to: Road Diets in the News

    JayDee
    Participant

    From Crosscut:

    <http://crosscut.com/2010/08/18/business/20071/Losing-lanes-to-bikes-will-produce-a-jobs-exodus/&gt;

    While not directly tied to the road diets of Admiral and NE 125th, it is a product of the same impulse that led the City to screw Nickerson and indirectly, ourselves. GM Nameplate, an under-the-radar manufacturer will be moving 400 jobs to Kent due to a “road diet”…Actions, even dumb ones, have consequences.

    As to Admiral and the speed limit–lets face it–the majority of drivers in West Seattle have been driving for 20+ years. A 4-lane boulevard should not have a 30 mph speed limit. Generally, we all know what’s acceptable for such a street and drive accordingly. And surprise: the accident stats (from the City) suggest that Admiral has a lower accident rate than most arterials. Hmmm, perhaps the people who drive Admiral are driving safe despite exceeding the (absurd, IMHO) 30 mph speed limit. Yes, there was the grisly head-on earlier this year, but I think others have pointed at contributing factors (a curve and ethanol).

    I would favor leaving Admiral as-is, posting signs prior to Olga uphill clearly stating the speed limit is decreasing from 40 mph (I can dream, can’t I?) to 30 mph (like the one in Issaquah on Front Street). After the Olga bus-stop I can see the logic in reducing the speed limit–an off-camber turn (see the former tree planters) and many streets/driveways, and if we are lucky, sunshine.

    My three oft-repeated cents.

    #701611

    In reply to: The First Amendment

    DP
    Member

    Here’s a story about American Muslims who agree with me that putting a mosque near GZ is insensitive:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100818/ap_on_re_us/us_ground_zero_mosque_us_muslims

    From the article:

    Abdul Cader Asmal, past president of the Islamic Council of New England, an umbrella group for more than 15 Islamic centers, said some opponents of the $100 million, 13-story project are indeed anti-Muslim. But he said many Americans have genuine, understandable questions about Islam and extremism.

    In light of those fears, and the opposition of many relatives of 9/11 victims, Asmal said organizers should dramatically scale back the project to just a simple mosque, despite their legal right to construct what they want.

    “Winning in the court of law is not going to help improve the image of Muslims nationwide,” said Asmal, a Massachusetts physician. “You have to win the hearts and minds of the ordinary American people.”

    I expect to someone to respond with the pithy observation that the Associated Press and its mouthpiece, Yahoo! News, are both notorious right-wing operations . . .

    #701692

    In reply to: Road Diets in the News

    DP
    Member

    dhg said:

    A single lane means no racing.

    —Betcha start seeing people swinging out into those turn-trap lanes to get around slow drivers though . . .

    It happens all the time on Delridge and other streets that have been constricted.

    #701688

    In reply to: Road Diets in the News

    Jeffro
    Member

    Nicole Brodeur’s opinion column is the same stuff we saw last year with the Fauntleroy road diet. People complain about lost capacity beforehand, but it all goes away after they see that things don’t move any slower, the road has a safer, more predictable feel to it, and oh yeah, two-lane arterials are more pleasant to live near than four-lane freeways.

    I bike so naturally I have skin in this, but the benefits to drivers and other users is being seriously underplayed (I drive too!). Bike lanes are the most visible change, but I believe the greater benefit would be for the car-driving part of me. Now 35th has a lot more cars moving down it so I don’t know if it’s viable, but can you imagine if people turning left off of 35th had a lane to pull out of traffic while they waited instead of blocking – and wasting – a whole lane of “capacity”?

    Any road that doubles as a used car lot is in desperate need of a “diet”.

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