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[JoB]

annie..

only half of Christians have that single modifying center..

the Catholic half.

and i am not sure that many christian sects recognize Catholics..

or Lutherans

as Christians.

maybe not Episcopalians

and certainly not Unitarians

heck..

i know some churches

where Methodists aren’t even considered Christians.

The fragmentation of Islam churches you describe is very similar to that of Christian religions.

[hammerhead]

Marianne of Friends of the Animals Foundation had her license and credit cards along with money that I had sent to buy food for the rescue kittens STOLEN. While she was busy doing 6 adoptions, at Next to Nature, some one felt the need to steal this. As if rescues aren’t having tough enough time makings ends meet. Then the hassle of canceling credit cards and getting a new license.

Shame on the SOB that did this.

[Annie]

DP, I think I was reacting to the words, “slap in the face” as being polarizing. No one is wrong for the feelings they have, but people do have the responsibility for any actions they take in response to those feelings. Interpreting the building of a Muslim center as a “slap in the face” is not the only interpretation possible to anyone and those that feel strongly need to consider other possibilities. For instance that the owner of the property was not intending insult or demean or slap anyone. If Mr Rauf was indeed intending a “slap in the face” to New Yorkers, survivors, Christians, whoever, and and they “slapped back,” which you can argue they did, how is that moving the conversation forward? That is where I see polarization. Surely we were “slapped in the face” on 9/11 and we slapped back, hard. Has that made life better for us or for the Iraqis, who had nothing to do with it?

Also, why is it up to the Muslims to prove anything to those who insult them? It was not a religion who attacked us, but men who made a mockery of their religion. Maybe the fact that they were all (almost) Saudi’s had more to do with it than their religion. Just thinkin. . .and that popped into my head.

[yeah-me]

This poem gave me some comfort when I put my dog down this spring.

__

If it should be that I grow weak

And pain should keep me from my sleep,

Then you must do what must be done,

For this last battle cannot be won.

You will be sad, I understand.

Don’t let your grief then stay your hand.

For this day, more than all the rest,

Your love for me must stand the test.

We’ve had so many happy years.

What is to come can hold no fears.

You’d not want me to suffer so;

The time has come — please let me go.

Take me where my need they’ll tend,

And please stay with me till the end.

Hold me firm and speak to me,

Until my eyes no longer see.

I know in time that you will see

The kindness that you did for me.

Although my tail its last has waved,

From pain and suffering I’ve been saved.

Please do not grieve — it must be you

Who had this painful thing to do.

We’ve been so close, we two, these years;

Don’t let your heart hold back its tears.

Anonymous

[seriously]

I know it’s not West Seattle, but I’m curious if anyone here has been there and if it’s worth the drive over to Ballard or if it’s nothing better than Zippy’s and not worth the hassle of crossing the bridges?

[skylark]

Looking for a bar manager with 3+ years experience in all aspects of managing a front-of-house staff including scheduling to budget, hiring, training, and performance management. Must have an intermediate or advanced understanding of ordering, inventory, cost controls, liquor regulations, POS programming, and mixology. Professional communication, ability to take direction as well as initiative, and excellent attendance all required.

Please submit resume to info@skylarkcafe.com with a cover letter outlining your key contributions and results at a previously held position. Internal candidates are being considered.

[dobro]

“I take this to mean you think that the opposition to the mosque/prayer room was originally incited by a single person and is being propagated by a small group of people. Hence: a conspiracy. Did I misread you on that?”

According to the article I cited, Pam Gellar’s organization Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) sponsored and organized the first protest of the prayer center after it had been publicly announced, approved by the powers that be for zoning and necessary permitting with no public opposition. Some people are in the business of stirring up things to promote their own interests (ie Ann Coulter, Dick Armey, etc), I think she may be one of those. I don’t see it as a conspiracy and never said so because this type of action doesn’t require a group of people to sit in a room and conspire. There’s an entire Right Wing echo chamber that takes stuff like this and runs with it, puts freaks like Gellar on TV and radio to spew their hate and lies, and projects it into the MSM, creating fake controversy which translates into ratings and money. It’s really all about money when you come down to it.

“However, it’s also possible (I think probable, actually) that Gellar and others are merely trying to ride the wave of anger that was already building over this.”

This is conjecture on your part that doesn’t jibe with the facts presented in the article.

“However, what I hear some pro-mosque folks (not you) saying is that people who feel hurt by the mosque proposal are somehow wrong for feeling hurt—or wrong for voicing their opinion that they don’t want a mosque this close to GZ.”

As you stated earlier in your post, feelings are neither right nor wrong and folks can feel anyway they want. What IS wrong with a capital W is compromising constitutional rights because somebody doesn’t like it if you exercise them. If its ok for Catholics, Jews, and Buddhists to have religious centers in that neighborhood then its ok for Muslims to do it too and if you are asking them to voluntarily give up their rights because someone’s feelings might be hurt then what you’re asking is un-american. Rights are not to be put up to a vote and apply equally to all.

[Garden_nymph]

DP, I just thought you would appreciate being informed about the Japanese Cultural Center that IS located 10.5 miles from the USS Arizona Memorial on Oahu. http://www.hawaiiweb.com/oahu/sites_to_see/japanese_cultural_center.htm

The Address for the USS Arizona Memorial is,

USS Arizona Memorial

1 Arizona Memorial Road

Honolulu, HI 96818-3103

How many years will it take to move on in a peaceful manner? It sounds to me like a community center, any COMMUNITY center in a derelict area full of strip bars and porn shops would be welcomed. It is sad to me that this attempted blocking of the Mosque is tolerated in America, a country FOUNDED on religious freedom as a tenant of our Constitution! How many US service men and women have lost their lives protecting our rights and THIS is how we honor them?! My heart aches for those who have had to deal with retaliation due to ignorance regarding Muslims. Remember when a Sikh taxi driver was attacked after 9/11? He wasn’t MUSLIM! What about the Muslim woman here in West Seattle that had her dress cut shorter! My friend’s brother was the Muslim man who was almost shot at the Northgate Mosque on 9/11. The only reason he wasn’t killed was the perp’s gun jammed. He was praying for peace,as many of us were. When will people learn Muslim doesn’t equal Terrorist, but Intolerance = Hate!? Aren’t we better than this? For our collective sakes, I certainly hope so!

[DP]

Annie: Thank you for your most excellent comments!

You are quite right that I do not know that Mr. Rauf would be against having such a debate on his property. Oh, how I wish we could ask him right now!

I believe that to Mr. Rauf, Islam really does mean peace. And to the extent that he’s trying to win over all Muslims to the side of peace, I am definitely with him. In the meantime, I think he, and others, can help move us forward by acknowledging that, to many people around the world, including many Muslims, Islam does not mean peace. At least, not for the time being . . .

I’m not sure I understand what you mean when you say that someone’s reaction of being hurt or angry, while understandable, is “polarizing.” Feelings are what they are; they are neither right nor wrong. However, what I hear some pro-mosque folks (not you) saying is that people who feel hurt by the mosque proposal are somehow wrong for feeling hurt—or wrong for voicing their opinion that they don’t want a mosque this close to GZ.

For me, that’s the nub of this matter. If I heard people acknowledging that this might just be about something other than the Bill of Rights, or about Muslim bashing, I’d feel better.

In any case, I’m glad to see someone recognizing that there are nuances to this issue. You are like a breath of fresh air.

[DP]

Garden_nymph: Thanks for the info.

I just read the Wiki article on the Iwakuni base. At 6,000 personnel (including family members), it’s not exactly what I’d call a “giant base” which is what dhg said. But maybe that’s quibbling . . .

Here’s something else interesting from the Wiki article on this base:

It was revealed in 2010 that in 1966 nuclear weapons were moved to the base for storage from Okinawa. When U.S. ambassador to Japan Edwin O. Reischauer learned of the presence of the weapons, which was a violation of the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan, he told the United States Department of State that if the weapons were not removed within 90 days he would resign and go public with the information. The weapons were removed shortly thereafter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Corps_Air_Station_Iwakuni

—the point being that Japanese people are very sensitive about having nuclear weapons anywhere on their territory, which is understandable.

Accordingly (and also because of US treaty obligations) Ambassador Reischauer demanded that the nukes be removed from Irakuni, which they promptly were.

I think there is a loose parallel with the NY mosque/prayer room here. I’m not equating a mosque or Islam with nuclear weapons. I’m equating the sensitivities of New Yorkers (logical or otherwise) with the sensitivities of Japanese.

[Annie]

DP, how do we know that Mr. Rauf would not be willing to host such a debate/conversation? It seems it would fit in with what I understand to be a purpose of the community center. I do suspect that the matter of keeping it “safe” could be problematic however.

Also, I think that one difference between Islam and Christianity (Judaism, too? I don’t know) is that in most Western religions there is one particular “head” that presides over matters of dogma or belief. The Catholic Church has it’s Pope, for instance. As I understand Islam, there are Imams in different geographical areas and they have that role locally. So Islam could be different depending on interpretations by different Imams in different locations. So to Mr. Rauf it may truly be about peace, though I don’t know of any religion that preaches “only” peace. Do you? Quakers maybe? Amish?

As for “many” New Yorkers who “may” take the idea of a peaceful Muslim message as a slap in the face, while understandably being hurt and angry, that reaction continues to polarize and is not helpful to a process of knowledge, understanding and healing.

[DP]

dobro: Here’s what you said that makes me think that you think the mosque brouhaha is a conspiracy:

You can see . . . [that opposition to the mosque is] pretty much a one-woman show with right wing fruitcake Pam Gellar leading the way

I take this to mean you think that the opposition to the mosque/prayer room was originally incited by a single person and is being propagated by a small group of people. Hence: a conspiracy. Did I misread you on that?

But anyway, you know what? You could be right: it could be just a “one-woman show.” I haven’t been to New York lately or talked with many New Yorkers about this, so I don’t really know whether they’re really feeling angry about this or not. But then, neither do you. —Unless you’ve been talking with a bunch of them. (Have you?)

The Salon.com piece had some good information on Pam Gellar’s blog. That should be taken into consideration. Because the right wing is the “out” party right now, they’re particularly keen on starting trouble. However, it’s also possible (I think probable, actually) that Gellar and others are merely trying to ride the wave of anger that was already building over this.

We’ll see.

 

Annie: Hi!!

You make a good point.

It’s ironic that the leader of this project (Mr. Rauf) has been one of the folks who has really tried to speak out against Muslim extremism. If he was willing to use some part of his building to host a safe and open-ended debate about the role of Islam in the modern world, then I would welcome that. In that case, I would switch over to a pro-mosque position. However, I suspect that Mr. Rauf is not willing to play host to such a debate.

You see, part of Mr. Rauf’s message is that Islam is a religion of peace and only peace. But I suspect that’s not how a lot of New Yorkers view it, because that’s contrary to their experience. In fact, many New Yorkers may take this whole “Islam = Peace” message as a slap in their faces, even though that was obviously NOT Mr. Rauf’s intention.

Islam, like Christianity, means many things to many people. Any Muslim can say what Islam means to himself or herself, and no one can reasonably contradict that. But for a Muslim (or anybody else) to say what Islam should mean to me (or the people of New York) is really stretching it.

[Annie]

One thing I haven’t heard in all this debate is the question I heard so often in the early months/years after 9/11 – “Why haven’t the peaceful muslins stepped up and denounced the terrorists or why have they not worked in their communities to do good, show the other side of their religion.” It seems like this community center could be just that, providing a place in an area needing development for community activities – a basketball court, a cooking school are what I’ve heard – as well as meetings, classes, etc. What happened to that idea?

I’m reading a book now called “The Faith Club” about 3 women, a Muslim, a Christian, and a Jew, who met regularly after 9/11 to understand each other’s faith. It’s not so much a religious story as a human story. Listening and understanding each other is more healing than drawing lines and making prohibitions.

[NicNDuB]

Christopher,

No worries. Had we done research we may have still ordered the Durian shake, we just wouldn’t have sent it back (we were seriously concerned there was spoilage or equipment contamination).

And although we couldn’t stomach the Durian, we can imagine how for the connoisseur it is addictive as neither of us has tasted anything quite like it before. There was a unique slightly melon-esk flavor, however, it seems one has to first get over the overpowering sulfur/ fermentation impact. And this isn’t an easy task as it permeates both olfactory and taste-buds.

And we didn’t ask, but we suspect that what we tried was a powered version, so we can only imagine the experience of fresh Durian…

[JustSarah]

Another vote for Seventh Generation Free & Clear plus an oxygen bleach. I prefer “Country Save” brand because it’s local. You can find it at Thriftway in the cleaning aisle.

Also, if your issue is with whites, make sure you wash them separately and in the warmest water the fabric will accept. This will help keep them bright. If you can, line-dry them (I know not everyone can; I can’t because I’m in a condo building and laundry lines are against the association rules. Can’t wait until I own a house…).

[pigeonmom]

Day trip to Whidbey Island and go to the off leash area of Double Bluff Beach.

Overnight just about anywhere on the coast.

Most places allow dogs.

Look for agility course classes, sheep herding for fun.

[Garden_nymph]

Earth Friendly Products liquid detergent from Costco, one container lasts FOREVER!

http://www.ecos.com/ecosliquid.html

My grandmother taught me about Borax years ago, it’s great stuff!

[christopherboffoli]

austin: Believe it or not but that’s the original audio. Speeding up the footage generated this sort of electric, THX-1138-esque engine sound which reminded me of slot cars, hence the title.

Some kayak footage would be very cool. I tried without success to get one of the West Seattle-based members of the Rat City Roller girls to wear one of the cameras on her helmet during one of the meets but she made it sound like that would require Olympic Committee level approvals before it could happen. These types of cameras are so tough and small they can really go anywhere.

[WSB]

I’ll echo “thanks, wsgolfer.”

This is one of the reasons we run this site and remain continuously honored by the presence of so many caring people who use the Forums to seek help and offer it.

[captainDave]

Yep. This is our second boat. It’s a little bigger and a little faster than the Allure but just as charming.

[Gina]

Frozen pizza was cleared out, so was Kleenex. Some brands of candy bars are being sold buy 2, get 2 free. Looked like the beer aisle was cleared out. Sodas are sparse. There are some good deals in canned goods. It looked like some suppliers were clearing their shelves and taking products away in some areas.

Lots and lots of eggs.

[christopherboffoli]

This footage was shot with a GoHero Pro HD in full 1080p. Actually, the raw footage looks a lot better as I’ve applied sort of a cartoon filter in this iteration. There’s also a decline in quality when you speed it up 900%.

The camera’s enclosure makes it waterproof and shockproof. Their website actually has some cool surfboard footage though I can’t say I’ve had much of an opportunity to use it in and around water. The mounting systems are modular so they’re expandable and nicely adaptable. The camera shoots stills as well as video (including 60 fps native for beautiful-looking slow-mo).

http://www.goprocamera.com/

This video was made with a lower bumper mount. But I’ve also shot on-car footage with their very strong suction cup mount.

[wsgolfer]

Very creative! I’d like to see the bumper mount too. What kind of camera did you use?

I see we share the same preference for REI parking lot aisle :).

[christopherboffoli]

Imagine if you could go from West Seattle to Downtown in only about 90 seconds. In the manner of a slot car:

http://www.vimeo.com/14309128

[christopherboffoli]

I’d normally give a new business a bit of breathing room on their opening day. But being the sangwich fiend that I am I just had to go in to Pho Aroma and road test their bahn mi.

The verdict: delicious! Wonderfully roasted meat with a subtle sweetness, fresh slivers of daikon, carrot and cucumber, a few peppers for some heat, touch of mayo and a few sprigs of cilantro. Heaven in your hand for $2.50 (takeaway).

One of the most wonderful parts of this Vietnamese, French colonially-influenced sandwich is the special bread. Rice flour added to the dough takes away the chewy toughness that a French baguette would normally have and replaces it with an overall softness with a wafer thin, delicate crispiness on the outside.

Definitely worth a visit. I’m looking forward to hearing from anyone who tries their durian milkshakes.