FOLLOWUP: How a century-old sawmill got in the way of finishing Don Armeni Boat Ramp’s float-replacement project

This weekend’s salmon fishing is a reminder that Don Armeni Boat Ramp can be a very busy place. Back in April, we reported that its float-replacement project was mostly done, with a few remaining touches. In correspondence with Seattle Parks, boater Steve King – who had observed “something missing” – learned it’s a little more complicated. At the heart of it was what remained of a sawmill from more than a century ago – the wood debris shown in these photos taken during construction. He shared this detailed explanation he received from Steve Levengood, Parks’ Capital Projects Coordinator Senior Built Environment Accessibility Compliance Lead:

The work is not yet completed. The original design had 4 piles on each side. Unfortunately, the #3 of 4 piles (counting from near shore outward) and the #4 of 4 piles could not be installed because, as we discovered during construction, the remains of an old sawmill was buried under the mudline. (We removed about 25 truckloads of old lumber before stopping since at that point, we were concerned we would undermine the boat ramp itself.) This means the float manufacturer needs to design more rigid connections to install the last floats. We have not yet received their proposal to review.

The float designer is also the designer of record, since the floats are a design-build element, and is very busy, so it may take months to get anything installed unfortunately. (They are also the only firm who does this work in Washington State, so we are dealing with a monopoly situation as well.) The Contractor, American Construction, is also eager to complete the work, and has been pressing them to complete their engineering work. The south floats, since the missing floats will just bridge the gap between the 2nd and 4th piles, should be doable. I have some doubts about the outer north floats since it will be unsupported by any piles, so we will need to see if that is actually doable once they finish their analysis, including the impacts of tidal, waves and wind.

I am attaching photos of the lumber that was removed. When we looked at historical photos, there was a sawmill at that location prior to World War I. In those days, when decommissioning a facility, they would apparently just cut the piles and drop the whole thing in the water. It is frustrating, and indeed would be criminal if done now, but it is what it is.

The Don Armeni webpage says Parks is hoping to install the added floats by the end of the year.

20 Replies to "FOLLOWUP: How a century-old sawmill got in the way of finishing Don Armeni Boat Ramp's float-replacement project"

  • Dave August 2, 2024 (7:57 pm)

    If you have the historical photos of that sawmill can you please publish them here?

    • WSB August 2, 2024 (8:47 pm)

      I don’t but I was only able to do a little research – might find them yet!

  • Jeremiah Gardner August 2, 2024 (9:17 pm)

    I would like to weigh in on the fact that we have seen many adverse conditions on builds such as Big Bertha tunneling and the West Seattle Bridge cracks but I would have to put this situation in a different boat. (Pardon the pun) There has been a serious lack of funding going toward this ramp for many years which frustrates good paying patrons including season pass holders such as myself. This funding “NEEDS” to focus on ineligable users and citations. They are consistently not paying for the parking lot or Ramp services. It would take very minimal effort from Parking Enforcement to gajn a handle on this. 2 drivebys per day? 7 days a week will gain thousands in fines!

    • Runner August 3, 2024 (6:52 am)

      Agreed, every time I drive by there I see cars that shouldn’t be parked there. Parking enforcement would go a long ways on Harbor and Alki Avenue. 

  • Ray August 3, 2024 (12:48 am)

    Now this is the West Seattle I remember.My grandpa would talk about getting rid of useless things in the Sound way back when. A car, an old boat, a few refrigerators, my uncle Tommy (he was able to swim back), if you didn’t want something anymore you’d toss it in the sound and nature would take care of it. It truly was the good old days.

    • CarDriver August 3, 2024 (5:49 am)

      Don’t forget cities that built drains that went straight into the water instead of treatment plants.

    • Oakley34 August 3, 2024 (7:29 am)

      Thankfully those days are gone.  They were not good and we and the next generation will continue to pay the price of our forebearers environmental shortsightedness.

    • Nettlemind August 3, 2024 (9:14 am)

      NOT  ‘good old days’…..sheer ignorance.

      • Another One August 3, 2024 (11:05 am)

        Pretty sure that was a tongue-in-cheek comment, a joke. 

      • Dewey August 4, 2024 (11:03 am)

        Nothing about ignorance. Societies learn as needs and knowledge changes. The only “ignorance” is the failure of people to study history and thus condemned to repeat or make poor decisions out of their “ignorance”. 

  • Morgan August 3, 2024 (4:59 am)

    What happens to all the old lumber? Is there any use or will it just rot out of water? Wonder if environmentally better to have left it undisturbed. Not critical just curious.🤨 

    • John August 3, 2024 (3:29 pm)

      From the looks of the picture the shipworms have been munching on it for a century.  This does not appear to be one of those ships preserved at the bottom of a cold lake situations.  Old Elliot bay piers seem to always be on the verge of collapse.

  • Olive August 3, 2024 (8:06 am)

    No comment, Ray.

  • Dereck August 3, 2024 (5:07 pm)

    Some of that old wood must be valuable. Would love a piece, just to hang on my wall…

  • 22blades August 4, 2024 (5:15 am)

    King County GIS 1936 Base Map shows a sign of a mill or lumberyard across from 1203 Harbor Avenue.

  • Diverlaura August 4, 2024 (10:34 am)

    The whole area underwater there is impacted by the sawmill, old marina  and what Ray describes.   Puget sound was our ‘out of sight out of mind’ garbage disposal area for many many years.  I’m glad to see some things getting cleaned up.  The fault line (over to the left) shows decades of this behavior.  There is a  â€˜wall’ that has been cut from the substrate from fresh water percolating up and it  has layers of human jetsam dating back over 100 years as evidenced by being able to pluck unique bottles (such as one stamped with seattle soda works) likely tossed over the side of the original luna park pier after a day enjoying the sun and sand sometime between 1910-1920.  

  • Dewey August 4, 2024 (10:50 am)

    I remember in the 60’s the beach collapsed right where the bulkhead begins at the north end of Harbor Ave and Alki Ave begins. The collapse was attributed to the collapse of part of the old saw mill. The flat area adjacent to that had three houses and a narrow one lane boat ramp. You would think the draconian Seattle Land use people would of had a note about it on their maps and in the paperwork put together when they repurposed the land for a much larger boat ramp system, parking and park. K

  • JJ August 6, 2024 (1:25 am)

    Oh wow, do you have any idea how valuable pre-world war lumber is? A guitar made from that time is virtually priceless. 

    • AmyT August 8, 2024 (5:53 pm)

      Righ6 !!!not to mention some of our old school things like refrigerators have also been a source of building new reefs all over the world my biggest concern is it helping our waters or cteamore issues if safe leave alone if harmful/toxic we need to get rid of  as far as the old lumber mill and the boat ramp there are many things that can be done 

    • AmyT August 8, 2024 (6:01 pm)

      Hate auto spell and texting to fast lol !!!

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