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  • #792064
    luckymom30
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    Many times when we go to The Children’s Theater to see a play a child kicks our seats, we have tried both approaches asking the parent to stop the kicking, and yes asks the child directly to stop the kicking. Sometimes you get lucky and the parent actually steps in and tells the child to stop kicking. Most times our requests are met by parents who dislike telling their child their behavior is negative and nothing is done.

    When we pay hard earned money to see a play, movie whatever we fully expect to see and be able to hear what we paid for.

    These are teaching situations whether they be negative or positive.

    Maybe letting concerned or bothered people know you have a handle on the situation and then actually follow through, for everyone’s sake.

    #792063
    luckymom30
    Participant

    Many times when we go to The Children’s Theater to see a play a child kicks our seats, we have tried both approaches asking the parent to stop the kicking, and yes asks the child directly to stop the kicking. Sometimes you get lucky and the parent actually steps in and tells the child to stop kicking. Most times our requests are met by parents who dislike telling their child their behavior is negative and nothing is done.

    When we pay hard earned money to see a play, movie whatever we fully expect to see and be able to hear what we paid for.

    These are teaching situations whether they be negative or positive.

    Maybe letting concerned or bothered people know you have a handle on the situation and then actually follow through, for everyone’s sake.

    #792060
    PotatoBug
    Participant

    Plus, I give you full permission to hit a parent who is asleep while his child is kicking your seat on a plane :)

    #792058
    SeekingEuros
    Participant

    Potatobug — I don’t want to hijack your thread, but this is a very difficult call for the non-parent party. Two weeks ago I was returning from a business trip from NovaScotia, and there was a 4 year old behind me kicking and jiggling my seat for the first 90 minutes of a 5 hour flight. After 90 minutes, I turned around and addressed the sleeping father traveling alone with the 4 year old, asking for his intervention — because of comments like yours, I did not address the child. I was appreciative that he changed seats with the child and the rest of my flight was peaceful. But when we landed, the child said to her father “is that the grumpy old lady”. He then started to mutter to the child words clearly directed to me – what do you expect from a 4 year old, and that I should have paid to sit in first class or drive/bus cross country. So I turned around and said that the situation might have been better had he parented his child. I could have done what I have seen others do many times, reached around and grabbed the child’s foot/hand and scolded her. I didn’t, and I was VERY courteous in my initial comments to the father, yet I was returned with rudeness.

    After asking several friends that have small children, each has given me conflicting advice — some say help the parent and address the kid, and others say to never address the child. I point this out in this thread, as the non-parent clearly had a very different perception from you over the safety of your children or what is proper public behavior – as was my situation.

    Annette
    Participant

    We are looking for a little boy or girl to share our nanny and play with our daughter.

    We have a 21-month old daughter and a wonderful nanny. Sadly, the little boy sharing our nanny with us just “graduated” to daycare. We have our nanny three days a week (currently Tuesday through Thursday). We previously alternated weeks–one week at our house, the next week at the little boy’s house.

    Please call me if you are interested in sharing our nanny and I will give you all the details, including nanny’s rate of pay. We are flexible on the days of the week. We would love to nanny share with a toddler, but we are open to other ages too.

    Annette

    (c) 206-579-7500

    #607949
    B-squared
    Participant

    Anyone have an old chunk of drain pipe that they are tired of looking at? I’m looking for a 6″ dia pipe, approx. 32″ long for a yard project and i don’t want to use PVC. Hoping to re-use something that might be slated for disposal. i looked at Second Use and the Re-Store with no luck.

    Contact: purrovocative … at …. gmail dot com

    #791858
    TanDL
    Participant

    I agree with Rich. I’m not much of a camera fan either, but when it comes to protecting our kids, all bets and politics are off. Slow down, so that you can stop quickly if there are kids around. They don’t have the judgment capabilities that adults have and deserve a little extra care and caution on our part. And Mrhineh has it right, too. Do we have to wait until a child is killed by speeding traffic so we can gather stats to justify the enforcement of the 20mph zone? Just slow down in school zones. It’s that simple.

    #791938
    celeste17
    Participant

    Furry Faces Foundation (F cubers) is a local animal charity that raises funds to help owners with the animals. Be it spay/neuter, help with unexpected vet bills, need help with your pet to find a new home, etc. Teri Ensley started this group and it has grown. She has plant sales, FUNdraiser to raise money for these projects. One project is “its hip to be snip”; another is “Tag your Pets its not Graffiti” We always welcome new members to help as time allows. You can check out F3 on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/furryfacesfoundation?fref=ts or you can contact her through email furryfaces@hotmail.com

    We have fun while earning money to help families with their pets.

    #792011
    melissa
    Participant

    JYN, are you on 98th, by any chance? We live near a neighbor who sounds suspiciously like yours. We would be happy to chime in if we knew who to contact.

    #791857
    HMC Rich
    Participant

    Normally, I don’t want cameras but to me schools are different. I say install them with big flashing lights when the speed limit needs to be enforced. Like JanS, I learned the hard way. Ever go by the Boren School on Delridge before and after school? Cars and trucks go way too fast. Only the parents and people who have fines usually travel at the speed limit. The others forget that they are supposed to slow down and quite a few are jerks. Once you get a ticket you will remember it. But that is much better than hitting a child.

    #791274
    WSB
    Keymaster

    Update: Here is a long reply from Joelle Hammerstad, a Parks communication team member with whom we and other news media deal regularly. I asked a few key questions about permits, mentioning the discussion had originated here; she found the thread, and sent me the following:

    We have been discussing this issue with both volleyball players and beach visitors/neighbors for years. Let me take the issues I saw pointed out one at a time.

    1. Permitted tournaments.

    There are seven volleyball courts on Alki. Six of them are permitted for volleyball tournaments every Saturday and Sunday from mid-May through mid-September. Those permits allow use of the courts from roughly 8 a.m. to 5 or 6 p.m. – never later than 6 p.m.

    2. Amplified sound.

    We do allow amplified sound at the tournaments between 9 a.m. and 6 p.m. only. Amplified sound outside that time frame is prohibited, and should be reported. Also, according to the permits issued, all speakers should be pointed in the direction of the water to minimize impacts on neighbors.

    3. Parking for permitted tournaments.

    Seattle Parks and Recreation does not permit parking for any of the tournaments because the property is SDOT right of way. Here is information from my colleague at Seattle Department of Transportation regarding reserving parking: To reserve curbside parking, a person must complete an application and submit it to SDOT. This can be done online. A link to the application and the explanation: http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/parking/tempnoparking.htm

    Barricades of the type shown on this website must be rented and placed at the curb. They can be rented from a private company. To find out more about this, the phone number for the Traffic Permit Counter is (206) 684-5086.

    4. First come, first served (FCFS).

    Of the seven courts at Alki Beach, six are reserved every Saturday and Sunday, all day, from mid-May to mid-September. One court is considered FCFS. The spirit intended for FCFS is that the court is open to a multitude of groups on any given weekend – not just one group who camps at the court all day. If you are not playing volleyball on the court, it should be ceded to someone else.

    5. Unpredictability of court use.

    All permits for the volleyball tournaments – all major events in parks, for that matter — are posted on Seattle Parks and Recreation’s website. The list is updated every Thursday. It is here: http://www.seattle.gov/parks/Publications/big_events.pdf

    6. Over-use of Alki Beach by volleyball players.

    As mentioned above, all the tournaments are permitted and the FCFS court is intended to allow anyone to play without a reservation. Current policy does not allow us to restrict use by families or groups who bring their own nets and set up for their personal use. In other words, if a family or other group wants to enjoy a game of volleyball at Alki, bring their own net and find space to set it up, that is allowed.

    7. Tournaments spilling onto sidewalk.

    Tournaments are not allowed to set up bleachers, tents or commercial blow-up advertising balloons.

    8. Reporting permit violations.

    Violations can be reported to Jeff Hodges at jeff.hodges@seattle.gov. Seattle Parks and Recreation appreciates extra eyes in the park. Reporting should be as specific as possible – time, date, location, group name if known and most important: photos. Without specific information, allegations can turn into “he said, she said” discussions.

    Other stuff to think about:

    Seattle Parks and Recreation takes very seriously the concerns raised on the West Seattle Blog regarding the use of Alki Beach. Alki Beach is a popular park, and our intention is to promote balanced and equitable use of our parks. We are not staffed at a level that allows us to have dedicated enforcement staff on the ground each weekend ensuring compliance, which is why we encourage people to report violations.

    #791975

    In reply to: UFO?

    miws
    Participant

    Perhaps their version of Google Maps miscalculated how long it would take them to travel 2,700 light years, (or traffic was an absolute breeze!)and they’re more than a month early for the Vashon Island Strawberry Festival?

    Mike

    #791974

    In reply to: UFO?

    cjboffoli
    Participant

    I know that if I were an alien who had just traveled 2,700 light years from home it would be top priority to head right over to: VASHON ISLAND.

    #791969

    In reply to: UFO?

    Andy
    Participant
    #791820
    WSB
    Keymaster

    I heard that on the scanner and it did dead-end. No reports of seriously injured people turning up at the hospital.

    #791269
    Cait
    Participant

    Maybe some folks should rally and get to the beach before they do one day and just squat so that others can use the space. Obviously time and place would need to be coordinated elsewhere, but just a thought.

    #791917

    In reply to: BEAUTIFUL West Seattle

    TanDL
    Participant

    The sidewalks are public walkways… it shouldn’t always be the small business owner who has to clean up after the trashy public. I know a gal who runs a small business south of the Junction and she has told me that it’s amazing what she picks up every morning when she opens. From cig butts to dog poop to outright trash, she’s said that the constant cleaning is exhausting. A couple of times people have even dumped broken household items that they obviously couldn’t fit in a garbage can. She not only had to remove it from in front of her business, but had to pay extra to have it hauled off.

    If the litter bothers so many so much, why doesn’t everyone lend a helping hand and start picking it up? As concerned citizens of West Seattle, let’s do something about it. Maybe start a fund for all small businesses to chip in so they can hire someone to clean the two or three blocks every morning, or form a volunteer cleaning committee. Maybe work with the Junction Association to provide attractive trash bins, or organize a volunteer group to rotate cleaning shifts. How about form an exercise cleaning group? It would be great early morning exercise and help keep our community sparkling clean at the same time. Maybe organize a daily litter patrol to help remind folks not to litter in the first place.

    Words on a blog are easy… doing the work it takes to actually change things for the better is much tougher, but if anyone can facilitate community change, it’s West Seattle! So let’s get to work!

    #791915

    In reply to: BEAUTIFUL West Seattle

    kgdlg
    Participant

    No, jiggers, the problem is that biz district litter happens all day long so if you tidy in the morning, it is dirty again by noon. And owners don’t have time to spend an hour a day on this (15 min here and there adds up).

    Seriously people, this is why biz owners agree to self tax in a bIA so as to contract this out. Then it is fair and everyone pays for same service.

    DFW
    Participant

    I noticed you because you were yelling at your small (not a corgi, but corgi-sized) dog on the street, telling it to heel. You then hit your dog twice very hard on its back, while it cowered and hit the deck. When you stopped before crossing the street, the dog hit the deck again, obviously terrified of you.

    I drove around the block to try to catch up with you but you were too swift in getting into your house, I supposed, once I yelled, “Don’t hit your dog!” at you from my car.

    But don’t think you are going to get away with this. Your neighbors are very aware and caring people. Behavior like this will be reported.

    Also, I noticed you did not have your dog on a leash. Perhaps leashing your dog would cause you to have a little less anger at it, but I kind of doubt it. Your behavior was the cruelest I’ve had the displeasure to witness in person.

    You do not deserve to have any animals.

    #791899

    In reply to: BEAUTIFUL West Seattle

    WSB
    Keymaster

    P.S. And if you missed our original story:

    Since government doesn’t adequately fund education any more, PTAs have to have auctions every year to pay for things that in some cases are as basic as desks. Small local independent businesses donate to those auctions – giving away merchandise and services for free, so the schools can get a few hundred (or more) more bucks. (We don’t have merchandise to offer, so we sponsor nonprofit events – cash and in-kind advertising.) And this same funding model is employed by many nonprofits that make this community a better place, in countless ways.

    If you are on the other side of the equation, the people bidding on and buying the auction items, or also making donations, by the way, THANK YOU.

    Anyway, forgive me the passion but if you are not a business owner, you need to understand what they already give. Maybe they are just too tired to also put in an hour on the sidewalk picking up after slobs. The two ladies about whom I’m writing are also the primary staffers of their shops, in addition to doing all the behind-the-scenes stuff it takes to run a business. I know I’m too tired some days to do some extra things I SHOULD and COULD do but just can’t, beyond my scope of accountability, and I bet the same goes for you.

    -TR

    #791895

    In reply to: BEAUTIFUL West Seattle

    jissy
    Participant

    CJ- Took the words right out of my mouth as I was thinking the same thing the last couple of times I walked through the Junction… I can’t believe some of the businesses don’t just pull a few weeds and pick up some trash, their storefront’s aren’t that wide. If I were a business owner in the Junction, I would be tending to the dirt around the 1 or 2 street trees that might be in front of my business.

    I was a business owner on California Avenue for many years and even though the NNN I paid on my lease provided for some landscape upkeep and clean-up, they didn’t plant flowers or pretty it up around my office building, so I did it myself in my early years of business and paid to have it done later on when yeah, I was “busting it” to keep my business running all while contributing “tremendously to the community”, I think people can do both. I actually see that as part of contributing to our commmunity!!

    It was important to me to have a pleasant entrance to reflect on my place of business. I did maintenance/upkeep way beyond what my NNN covered due to pride of ownership. Interestingly enough, the businesses around me took note and had theirs professionally done, too shortly after mine — I was glad it caught on.

    #791891

    In reply to: BEAUTIFUL West Seattle

    cjboffoli
    Participant

    In my view we waste too much time looking for the “nuanced” reasons for things and don’t spend enough time coming up with practical, workable solutions. Maybe if we did we wouldn’t have the same car prowlers, burglars and drunk drivers back on the street re-offending within days or weeks of being caught. I’m weary of endlessly analyzing the root causes of how someone’s unfortunate childhood leads him to litter.

    As a citizen and taxpayer I have every right to point out a problem and ask the question why no one is addressing this, at a time when our City Council seems to have no problem spending $750,000 on a spray park and proposing to throw $500,000 at Nicklesville.

    I’m sorry to have challenged your complacency but if this isn’t a problem that bothers you perhaps you could move along to another Forums topic instead of trolling this one.

    #791888

    In reply to: BEAUTIFUL West Seattle

    cjboffoli
    Participant

    melissa: I keep the alley, parking strip and other public areas around my private property clean. And I’m very busy too. But I make the time to do it because it is my civic responsibility. I think if you look at those pictures is is clear that the areas in the picture are not the cases of the business owners who have taken the time to clean and plant the areas in front of their businesses. So obviously my criticism is not directed at them. And I think it is neither hasty nor wrong to ask the question about why citizens, government and business owners are ignoring a significant problem. What our community needs is a little less in the way of the kind of excuses you seem to offer and more in the way of taking responsibility.

    #791887

    In reply to: BEAUTIFUL West Seattle

    melissa
    Participant

    I am not a business owner in the Junction. However, I do see the effort that many of the business owners put into the Junction and would ask people not to be hasty (and wrong!) in accusing the business owners of neglect. Many of the owners clean sidewalks, contribute to the gorgeous flowers (and maintenance thereof), and pickup garbage.

    That being said, they have businesses to run and should not be expected to pick up cigarette butts and garbage that careless, rude folks throw onto the sidewalks and around trees. That’s on the litterers. There are garbage cans and butt cans and many people are too idiotic to use them. I’d like to see ALL of the bars have butt containers and notes on the windows reminding customers to use them.

    I think it’s rotten to blame people who are busting it to keep their businesses going, many of whom contribute tremendously to the community instead of those who are truly responsible.

    #791885

    In reply to: BEAUTIFUL West Seattle

    cjboffoli
    Participant

    kgdlg: I don’t know, but I’m wondering the same thing. I see a lot of failures here: citizens carelessly littering, the City failing at maintaining a basic level of sanitation, and business owners not caring enough maintain the right of way in front of their stores.

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