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  • #752222

    JanS
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    {{{{{{{{{{DBP}}}}}}}}}}}

    and great pic of Mike :)

    #752223

    JV
    Member

    JoB, did you type that with a straight face? :)

    I blame the media too! And I blame ESPN any time UW loses a game!

    #752224

    miws
    Participant

    Thanks David….

    Mike

    #752225

    JoB
    Participant

    JV..

    did i post and smiley faces or wink winks?

    nope.. i scrolled back up and checked.

    did i not make myself clear?

    I intended to be perfectly clear.

    But just in case you are hard of reading…

    i will be glad to repeat myself just for you.

    THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH OCCUPIERS

    sorry to shout.. but i wanted to be sure you could read my words…

    Please don’t blame ESPN when UW loses a game.

    There is little they could do about it.

    After all.. sporting events keep score so it’s really easy to figure it out when the newscaster only tells you about UWs goals and leaves out the other side’s.

    they’d lie to you if they could.

    #752226

    HMC Rich
    Participant

    I wonder JoB, if you and Michele Bachmann were both rooting for the Gophers? Now wouldn’t that be something. Myself, I am a Badger and a Packer. We are winners. Minnesota is just a notch above Illinois. If I didn’t have relatives living there, it would almost be a tie.

    Ya sure, you betcha. Just joking dontcha know.

    #752227

    JV
    Member

    JoB, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. I think you may be saying there is no problem with Occupiers just because you don’t want to hurt any feelings. That’s nice of you.

    It took over 100 posts, (about 106) but DBP even said that there were issuses that needed to be addressed, etc., etc.

    At that point, there were a couple meaningful posts going back and forth between people on the topic, so I would suggest that you read those posts. Read DBP’s posts, not mine, since my words give you an angry reflex, no matter what I say.

    Honestly, I don’t care if you change your mind. I’m glad DBP did. I also changed too, and I have more respect for him and where he is coming from. In my opinion he is uniquely qualified to help some of the trouble makers if he wants to. I think DBP would agree that you don’t help by enabling, excusing, ignoring, and explaining away bad behavior. (I don’t claim to speak for DBP, so he can feel free to disagree.)

    #752228

    DBP
    Member

    If I could talk to “the troublemakers,” I would ask them:

    What is it you’re trying to do here? Do you just want to make some noise? Or are you trying to build something that will bring lasting change? Because if you want change, then you have to make sure people understand what you’re asking for.

    But how can they even hear you when you’re shouting at them?

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    Regardless of how much I disagree with folks on particulars, one thing I know for sure is that we all share the troubles of this world together. And we’re gonna have to get out of them together, too.

    Or not.

         

     

    #752229

    JoB
    Participant

    HMCRich..

    i must confess

    i wouldn’t know a gopher from a badger.

    I do speak Beaver and Duck

    and am familiar with Couger and Husky

    but please.. don’t ask me to identify which Universities they represent:(

    #752230

    JanS
    Participant

    JV, you have a habit of telling people what they really meant, or telling them that they are limited as to what they can post, or misinterpreting what people are saying. I’m sure you’re an extremely nice guy, but, come on. This is a public forum, and people may not post what you want to hear. You can’t control it. And saying things like “proctologist’s view”, etc. get you nowhere. It’s sarcasm, pure and simple, it’s insulting, and I know you’re better than that. Maybe look inward, and see some of your imperfections and clean up your act. Others are willing to do the same, and then get insulted by you anyway. Food for thought.

    #752231

    JoB
    Participant

    JV..

    Is it possible i have not yet made myself clear?

    for the record, i will repeat myself.

    There are problems with individuals in every organization

    That does not mean that those individuals accurately represent the entire organization

    Would you like to talk about the “problem” individuals within the local little league organization?

    The Problem With the Local Little League Organization

    i bet we could have a lively discussion on that one

    i don’t know enough to make a good case myself ..

    but posting the inflammatory title alone should be enough to bring more knowledgeable people swarming out of the cybersphere…

    lions and tigers and bears

    OH MY

    #752232

    kootchman
    Member

    I am fine with Occupy. So far they have affected me not one whit.

    #752233

    JoB
    Participant

    so glad to hear that kootch

    they aren’t so strong on that drive by stuff

    you have to get out of your car and listen to get their point ;->

    ok.. so if they are in process

    you have to listen a very long time :(

    but at least we can’t accuse them of rushing headlong into conclusions…

    or jumping on the latest advertising bandwagon

    #752234

    Jan Rose
    Member

    Is West Seattle immune from the overtaking of the 1%? No! Let’s speak up for raising the taxes on the rich, continuing Health care for the rest of us, building roads, fixing potholes, etc. I’m happy we have people willing to speak out for us, and join the National Occupy movement.

    #752235

    JV
    Member

    JoB, I’ve come to enjoy reading your posts because you’re now officially off the deep end. Of all your comparisons, you’ve stooped to trying to equate our local little league organization with the occupiers? Sometimes it’s just best to let the readers decide which argument is sane and which is incoherent.

    <sarcasm font> Jan Rose, thank you for coming to our rescue! I wasn’t aware that the eeevviiillll 1% was trying to take over West Seattle until now! We should do something about it! </sarcasm font>

    I guess if it gives you something to do…

    #752236

    JanS
    Participant

    wow…just because someone disagrees with you they’re “off the deep end”? Or that someone supports something you don’t you have to be sarcastic? What happened to the kinder, gentler JV. Gave up trying quickly, didn’t you? There’s room for all of us here.

    Got a question for you, JV…how old are you?

    you honestly think your last post generates intelligent conversation on anything?

    #752237

    kootchman
    Member

    redblack… I had to revisit this..

    “the thing is, kootch, can you pin those on obama?

    most – if not all – of that inflation is the result of free market forces.”

    It’s not a free market when the Fed Reserve debases a currency with over 8 trillion dollars in funny money. When will you get that simple economic principal? Currency manipulation has consequences. When you print too many dollars that are worth less…. producers want more of them to sell any given commodity. That is the definition of monetary induced inflation.

    Free market it ain’t … in fact in slow economic times with slack demand… you should have lower prices…. if the free market was allowed to work. Now we have inflation AND not enough jobs or labor demand to raise real wages. That too, would be a free market consequence.

    Yes, I can pin that on the Obama administration. To spend what he spends… he has to a) borrow, b) print more money, and in his case .. c) BOTH! Yep … it’s his economic policy… too young I suspect.. but in the Carter years.. it was called stagflation. A stagnant economy with runaway inflation.

    The trigger in the Carter years was the rise in oil prices… the trigger in the Obama years… (and Bush) was the rise in the cost of government, Our own government did us more damage than OPEC

    This of course would be alien speak to the occupiers… they have a demon out there called the 1%…. that’s all they do know, and all they want to know.

    #752238

    DBP
    Member

    Some photos from the recent Occupy West Seattle event at Chase Bank:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinalydia/sets/72157629581117989/

    (Not taken by DBP)

    #752239

    JoB
    Participant

    JV…

    THE PROBLEM WITH THE LOCAL LITTLE LEAGUE

    There.. i said it again.

    you see i can make accusations

    and then make you run to refute them just like a …

    bat shit crazy republican

    or..

    at least i could if was a bat shit crazy republican

    thank god i am a pinko commie union supporting left leaning do gooder instead.

    You get off scot free.

    #752240

    JV
    Member

    JoB, you are the gift that keeps on giving.

    I’m proud to officially state that JoB and JV differ on almost every topic.

    We will let the fair-minded WSB readers decide which one of us is “bat sh!t crazy.”

    #752241

    redblack
    Participant

    i don’t think either of you is crazy. i see two people with different opinions on why this country is in the hole that it’s in and the best ways to get us out of it.

    but the fact that you seem to crave a pissing match about sanity is informative.

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