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  • #614089

    In reply to: Seattle Freeze

    Wes
    Member

    Interesting discussions. I know that from what I observe, most people seem to be waiting for someone to talk to them. I sometimes hand out gospel tracts around west seattle/white center area, and most people are not offended that I have given them one and ask them to read the back. I usually get into conversations with them that always end on a good note. These are complete strangers and yet I love them enough to share with them something I think is eternally important. I don’t follow them or harass them, I just try to be polite and loving.

    On the other hand it’s odd that if I am not doing this I am extremely shy and get nervous meeting new people. So I guess I have no problem talking about Jesus but I do when it comes to talking about myself. I think I just did some self therapy here…..thanks for listening all!

    #614132

    In reply to: Liberty Tax Service

    Ken
    Participant

    Well regardless of the marketing crudeness, it is still the place to go for predatory refund anticipation loans… and high fees for simple tax filings.

    You can never go wrong underestimating the scary math skills of the average american.

    This will no doubt be a banner year for the franchise.

    If WSB is planning to sell them an ad for the coming tax season, feel free to “edit” this comment. H&R Block seems to be investigated in most of the same states that investigate Liberty.

    #614072

    In reply to: Seattle Freeze

    hopey
    Participant

    Okay, so I’ve got two WSB-ers ready to invite me over for dinner, then? Or at least out for coffee? ;)

    Kayleigh, the “liberalism and compassion” is oddly enough part of what causes the freeze in the first place. People are so sensitive to what might “offend” others, that they err on the side of saying nothing, which results in a very shallow version of friendliness.

    I am now remembering a friend in Chicago who had recently moved from Seattle. She was your typical Capitol Hill goth, if you know what I mean. Tall and thin and goth with long bright-red dreadlocks. Beautiful gal, very striking. She would often complain about how much people on the street in Chicago remarked upon her appearance. She HATED it. She would tell me that in Seattle, she could walk down the street and no one would “bother” her. But by a Chicago native, that type of positive comment — as long as it was not something everyone here would agree is harassment — is considered normal and even friendly. And my friend was right, it doesn’t happen hardly at all here. (My friend has since found her happy medium in New York City.)

    I’m not sure it’s boundaries per se, but rather how willing people are to make a kind remark and risk having it taken the wrong way. Does that make sense?

    #614067

    In reply to: Seattle Freeze

    WSMom
    Participant

    Have you experienced this: I make a good friend that likes to get together and do some of the same things I like to do, and she changes jobs and moves to another city. The last three years I’ve had 3 friends move away, and now I feel like I’m starting over.

    And what Kayleigh said: “I’m always happy to make new friends but sometimes feel I don’t have the energy or time to keep up with the ones I have”. What is up with this? What are we so busy doing that we don’t invite folks over for a meal or a cup of coffee. I’m talking to myself here, not you Kayleigh. My resolution for 2008 is to invite someone new over for dinner at least once a month, even if it means I’ll have to clean my house.

    #614065

    In reply to: Seattle Freeze

    hopey
    Participant

    Here’s my experience as a transplanted Chicagoan…

    The Seattle Freeze is real. After some discussion with a friend who relocated here from Iowa, we have decided that a lot of it actually results from an overwhelming fear of offending *somebody* by saying *something* wrong. Let me give you a really specific example.

    I am nearly 40 years old and recently had braces put on my teeth. Not a single coworker in my office said ONE WORD when I walked into work the first day I wore braces. No one acknowledged there was *anything* different about me that day, outside of the surreptitious looks and a bit of a startle response the first time I opened my mouth to speak. It was my boss’s boss (who is from the Midwest) who casually remarked, “Oh hey! You got braces! How long will you have them on?” and chatted with me in a friendly way about it. I think the rest of my coworkers were worried that if they acknowledged I had changed anything, I would somehow be offended. Better to not say anything at all.

    This is very different from the Midwest idea, which is that by commenting on changes in appearance, you are showing that you notice — and therefore, you *care*. It is an expression of interest and caring, not an insult or intrusion into an intensely private matter.

    Extrapolate this into the way neighbors and people on the street interact, and you get a “friendliness” which exists on the surface but never delves any deeper. I know it’s not just me, because when I discuss this theory with other transplanted Midwesterners, they agree that I am spot-on. If it were not for my fiance and his circle of friends, I’m convinced I wouldn’t have made a single friend here in Seattle.

    #614064

    In reply to: Seattle Freeze

    credmond
    Participant

    I’m usually the “sucker” who looks the Tourette Syndrome person right in the eye and therefore the one who’s caught in a conversation with said person for the 20 or 40 minutes I’m on that bus (obviously, depending on where I’m going). However, by looking folks right in the eye, I’ve had some amazingly enlightening and fascinating conversations with complete parents-born-in-Swedish-Hospital 2nd or 3rd gen Seattleites. I think a lot of folks from here are genuinely shy and not unlike Nova Scotia or New England in that regard. That may have something to do with the lack of winter light, but – wait a minute. I spent about 5 months in Stavanger a while back, during winter, and did not experience that same level of shyness. Maybe it’s just a North American Northern Lattitudes thing.

    #614051
    Franci
    Participant

    Lattemom – I’ve been following this conversation since yesterday. I’ve waited to see how things played out before posting, but I have to say that reading your posts yesterday afternoon, I felt a lot of angry energy coming from you in those posts, simply because people were expressing their own opinions, which don’t happen to be in agreement with yours.

    It sounds like this guy was having a really bad day, made some unfortunate choices, maybe he did or did not deserve what he got, I don’t feel like I’m in a position to make that judgement.

    I do believe that in any given moment people are doing the best they can, and if that was the best he could do in that moment then he was obviously hurting in some way and was in need of compassion from those around him. I completely agree with JT that expressing concern for someone instead of judging them could have brought a completely different outcome.

    #614048
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Lattemom- you keep explaining that you yelled back “nice language” as if that was asking him to stop when in fact you were contributing to his rage. If you felt so strongly about reporting him, just do that instead of inciting him further. Or if you really wished for him to just stop, how about a sincere “are you OK?” That usually jars people out of there trance and maybe you would of genuinely made him reflect on what he was doing. By the title and contents of your first post, what I’m hearing is the hall monitor tattling and hoping we’ll all somehow be proud. Now we’ve got one pissed off dude out there somewhere. I’m worried about who he’s going to take it out on now. Protecting invisible children might be making one at home less safe. That doesn’t mean we should tolerate a free for all in society, but you seem to be more concerned about being right than actually making a difference.

    #614036
    credmond
    Participant

    I’m in awe of lattemom’s ability to command authority and act. Irrespective of one’s opinion of the merit of the phone call, lattemom showed that active, involved, citizens can and do get the attention of the city. That’s a really good thing and a really good thing to know. Take heed, call in if something seems not right. I do. I’m also of the “heard more bad stuff than that before” so usually that kind of foul language goes in and out the same ear. Agree that the guy in question seemed to be having some severe electrical storms inside his head. That’s both sad and worrisome on so many levels. And, I’m a real fan of Ken’s standard of ethics. Reminds me of that French standard – Liberté, Fraternité, Egality. Anyway, a really rousing discourse. Also, in lattemom’s defense, the south end of West Seattle can be and is somewhat of a freezone. This was a bit too “wild west” for a family neighborhood.

    #614026
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Cruiser: I have a wonderful and fun life, thank you very much! I am a Stay At Home Mom, volunteer at an area hospital, run a business here at home that is very success, enjoy watching our kids grow up. I am very lucky to be able to stay at home with our children, my husband has a geat job and is gerat at what he does. I get on this board in between errands and shopping for groceries and the such. I am also very involved at our school. I also involve our children working at area food banks. I have a very full life. I have already worked for over 25 years in a very corporate office. We also travel when ever we can and make a point at visiting areas that we can assist Habitat for Humanity projects, so we do give back to the community.

    #614009
    Erik
    Participant

    Wes –

    In short, swearing or any other anti-social behaviour that children witness from adults (other than their parents or those they reside with) don’t necessarily have a detrimental affect on them. It all falls back on the limbic relationships the child forms while in their first 5 years of growth. The most important teachers of course are their parents. If the parents do a good job of providing a safe place for the child to explore and nurture their organic learning then they’ll have a strong basis to deal with the outside world. Usually better than the adults they are with, because they’re still in a learning mode. Children are quite adaptable to their environments, just ask all the kids from war-torn areas of the world. As long as they have strong family relationships they’ll learn how to deal with the world as a whole. Adults on the other hand for the most part stopped learning a long time ago and base most of their actions/reactions on the child they once were.

    Listening to types of music or reading certain books aren’t going to turn a person into a decadent, killing, swearing machine unless they were already headed that way…again this falls back on the lack of a solid limbic relationship while growing up.

    As for the guy learning something, he may have, but I doubt it’s what you wish him to learn. He most likely reverted back to a childhood memory of when he was first chastised for doing wrong and became attuned to his feeling of not being accepted.

    As far as changing habits goes, the most efficient means is through observation of one’s movement when you are doing the behaviour (not by thinking). I know this is contrary to what most people think and spout. The reason trying to change one’s thinking is so hard is that you can’t easily measure change in it.

    Before you feel compelled to respond I ask that you notice what happens to your breathing or where you feel the tension building. As humans we have the ability to act, to observe the act, and to refine the action. This is also called maturity.

    #613999
    JanS
    Participant

    I am not going to take sides here…but…maybe there’s something going on in this guy’s personal life that was affecting him? In his marriage? In his kid’s lives? If he has kids, imagine not being able to support them now? Swear words happen…if you don’t like them, then you complain. That’s your choice and your right.Whoever his boss was on this job should have been contacted first(actually, he should have been on top of it before you were ever involved)…did you think about that? There must have been a supervisor there. They could have nipped it in the bud right then, and not sent this man into the unemployment world. This is not a perfect world, and some of the people that your children run into will undoubtably do things that affect them one way or another. How you raise them in your home makes the difference.

    Denigrating another person on here because they disagree with you isn’t exactly good form. We all have our opinions…that’s what makes this forum so great. I saw no anger in JimmyG’s disagreement with what you did….just another way of looking at things….no need to call him a jerk…

    #613969

    In reply to: Motels

    Sue
    Participant

    When a friend of mine came last year, she stayed downtown at The Moore Hotel – http://www.moorehotel.com/ – and really liked it. The rooms were under $100 and it was really convenient to get around from there. The rooms are very basic and functional – nothing fancy, but it was clean and the staff was very nice. It has generally good reviews on Trip Advisor as well: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60878-d100544-Reviews-Moore_Hotel-Seattle_Washington.html

    #613465
    Ken
    Participant

    http://www.northwestradio.net/interceptnw/

    Seattle uses trunked. digital and in many cases switches to cell for supervisor calls and “sensitive” traffic.

    I don’t have a scanner at the moment but trunked scanners can get pretty expensive last time I checked. Some interface with a pc to match up both sides of a conversation.

    http://www.usascan.com/files/scancat2.html

    Info specific to King county is localized here:

    http://www.northwestradio.net/interceptnw/king.htm

    These are trunkgroups rather than specific frequencies.

    Seattle (Seattle simulcast)

    3216 SPD Citywide ATG (patch ID?)

    3248 SPD West

    3280 SPD North

    3312 SPD South

    3344 SPD East

    3408 SPD Data

    3440 SPD Tac 1

    3472 SPD Tac 2

    3504 SPD Tac 3

    3536 SPD Tac 4

    3568 SPD Event 1

    3600 SPD Emergency

    3632 SPD East Tac

    3664 SPD South Tac

    3696 SPD North Tac

    3728 SPD West Tac

    3760 SPD Inv Tac 1

    3792 SPD Inv Tac 2

    3824 SPD Ctr 1

    3856 SPD Ctr 2

    3888 SPD Cmd 1

    3920 SPD Cmd 2

    3952 SPD Cmd 3

    3984 SPD Cmd 4

    4016 SPD Cmd 5

    4048 SPD Cmd 6 Harbor Ptrl

    4080 SPD Narc 1

    4112 SPD Narc 2

    4144 SPD Narc 3

    4176 SPD NTF

    4208 SPD Vice 1

    4240 SPD Vice 2

    4336 SPD Emer Rsp Team 1

    4368 SPD Emer Rsp Team 2

    4400 SPD Hostage Neg 1

    4432 SPD Hostage Neg 2

    4464 SPD Internal Invest

    Details on just what a trunked system is and is not can be found here.

    http://strongsignals.net/access/content/new_user.html#SEC12

    #613930
    steve
    Participant

    Thanks for your comments. We have visited Sanislo and Gatewood and liked what we saw at both of those schools and we will definitely check out a few others too. Fortunately, we aren’t in a huge rush to make this decision.

    Karen, our current school encourages the children to attend the conferences and I like that too. The teacher had each student do a presentation for their parents and it was so cool!

    We are interested in smaller classes, although our child is doing great in a large class right now and we would like to go to a school where parental involvement is highly encouraged.

    #613928
    karen
    Participant

    My son is at Gatewood and I am VERY happy there. We have some a little bouncing around because there are some special needs that need to be met. I feel very welcome there, parents are welcome to come in and work in the class. The staff respects my child as a person and works with him to help him achieve his potential. One of the best things is that there is a respect for the child. Children are invited to attend the conferences (if the parent wishes) to talk about their strengths and goals. There is no feeling of negativity, only a willingness to help the child succeed.

    Good Luck.

    #613946
    Sue
    Participant

    If you go to the Mosaic website – http://www.mosaichomes.com/seattle – you’ll see that they now have a “Now Leasing” tab with 2 properties, and the “Coming Soon” tab is empty. They don’t even list the West Ridge Park (Gables) property anymore because that conversion did not finish – only part of the complex was updated.

    #613925
    WSB
    Keymaster

    Steve – more and more, each school has a special area of emphasis or a special feature, even at the elementary level. So you’ll want to ask about that, depending on what your little ones’ interests are evolving toward. We were just up covering a story at Pigeon Point Park next to Cooper Elementary, for example, last week, and were learning about the environmental/art special offerings there. Our son attended Lafayette for three years and we were greatly impressed with the principal, teachers, staffers, and parent commitment. In our role as WSB editor, we have met and corresponded with people from many schools around West Seattle, all of whom have a passion for and devotion to their schools. I hope more of them will find this thread in the coming days and tell you about the schools they know best!

    #613944
    WSB
    Keymaster

    It was scrapped. Hang on, I’ll pull up the links, we covered it a couple times. The same company also scrapped plans to convert West Ridge Park apartments on Delridge.

    #586254
    gregorywade
    Member

    I was curious if anyone noticed the new sign advertising “Luxury Apartments” for lease at the Strata on California and Graham? I thought the apartment complex was undergoing a conversion to Condos, and I recall seeing them advertised as condos not long ago.

    Now I’m not so sure. Does anybody know if the condo conversion was scraped, or was I simply making an ill informed assumption all along?

    #613880

    In reply to: Class directory

    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Bonnie,

    That is funny we made opposite changes!! Arbor Heights was a good school it just wasn’t the right fit for our daughter and our family, we have felt at home right away at Roxhill and yes it does not have the money and parent involvement as does Arbor Heights but for us it had acouple programs that were not offered at Arbor Heights.

    It also does not hurt that they have a rainy day program and the kids aren’t all in a playcourt together as it was at Arbor Heights, I no longer have to worry about our daughter being wet and cold.

    Our daughter started at Roxhill in 1st grade and was quickly moved up to 2nd grade at Roxhill, a move she needed as she was bored and not challenged.

    She does want to play soccer and we haven’t tried dance in awhile and she is currently enrolled in swimming.

    I know we have awhile to worry about this but I am worried when it comes to middle school selection, I am not thrilled about Denny and now with it mergering with Sealth really makes it a no brainer for her not to attend that school.

    As for the teachers at Roxhill they are great and I have a good idea which 4/5 grade teacher you are talking about!

    #613924

    Hi Anne: Don’t know offhand of a comprehensive list, but here are a number of WS groups I’ve either been personally involved with or know enough about to know that they’d be great to get involved with: West Seattle Food Bank; West Seattle Garden Tour; Delridge Neighborhoods Development Association; The Nature Conservancy; West Seattle Help Line; Schmitz Park Cleanup Committee; The Power of HOPE; Alki/Admiral/SW Neighborhood Associations. And that’s just off the top of my head, I know there are a lot more out there!

    #586246
    scottso
    Member

    It’s election time: Let’s get ‘Crazy/Naked’

    BURIEN – Politics! Power! Romance! Music (including one song you can actually dance to) — it’s all there in Breeders Theater’s new production, Crazy/Naked.

    This will be BT’s 13th production at E.B. Foote Winery (127-B S.W. 153rd Street, Burien).

    “Crazy/Naked is largely based on things I’ve seen people do and heard them say in more than 30 years of watching and writing about politics,” says playwright T.M. Sell.

    “People don’t pay enough attention to politics, at all levels, and sometimes they make choices that at least invite questions,” says Sell, who teaches political science at Highline College.

    Crazy/Naked follows BT’s successful summer 2007 show, Out of the Nest.

    The cast includes Yana Kesala, Eric Hartley, Luke Amundson, Kelly Johnson, J Howard Boyd, Teresa Widner, and Martin J. Mackenzie. Doug Knoop directs, with music by Nancy Warren.

    Show dates are Jan. 18, 19, 23, 25, 26, 30, 31, Feb. 1, 2 at 7 p.m.; Jan. 20 and 27 – 2 p.m., and Feb. 3 at 1 p.m. The Jan. 30 show is a benefit for the Highline College Foundation.

    The show includes tasting of E.B. Foote’s award winning wines and hors d’oeurves, all for only $20.

    Tickets are available at the winery, 206-242-3852 and at Corky Cellars, 22511 Marine View Drive, Des Moines 206-824-9462.

    More info, along with a map, are at:

    http://www.b-townblog.com/2008/01/14/get-crazynaked-in-burien-this-weekend/

    #613877

    In reply to: Class directory

    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Bonnie,

    Thanks for your input! It is ironic as our daughter was in kindergarten at Arbor Heights and we moved her to Roxhill. You are right about seeing the parents more at Arbor Heights, more parent involvement at that school that is for sure! But moving to Roxhill aside from this problem has been very positive for our daughter and family. I was told by the office staff at Roxhill that more of the parents work during the day than at Arbor Heights, I do remember a high number of stay-at-home-Moms at Arbor Heights.

    I am hopeful that my suggest to the principal at Roxhill will not go unanswered, as she has so far been a very good listener.

    When our daughter was in 1st grade earlier this year I talked with the only one other parent on a daily basis and most of those kids took the school bus. Now our daughter is in 2nd grade and the situation of the kids being on the bus is the same.

    Girl Scouts here we come!!! :)

    #613876

    In reply to: Class directory

    add
    Participant

    Girl Scouts is a great idea as is soccer – West Seattle Soccer Club is very inclusive. The teams my daughter has been involved with have included kids from several different schools, yet they have become friends and have non-soccer-related playdates. They do spring soccer, which is a little more informal, as well as in the fall. http://www.westseattlesoccer.org

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