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January 11, 2008 at 7:16 am #613608
In reply to: Button pushing…
WesMemberIt’s late and I’m tired so the fire burns lower. =)
I hope that woman did not say it that way to you. I would have told you that Jesus said He was the only way to God. So anyone who makes that kind of statement, did the miraculous things He did, and spoke about a place of eternal torement as well as a place of eternal life, I think is worth seeing if He is right or wrong. Because if He is wrong then you might not have anything to worry about so go do whatever you want, but if He is right then we should see what He has to say about how to get to God and have eternal life.
This would be fair to ask right?
I can tell you what Jesus said and the claims He made and the things He has done and what He says are the consequences of what He says, good and bad, and love you to death no matter what, but if God is drawing you to Jesus, then investigate it and see if it’s true, for yourself, not what the crazy preacher man on TBN says, or on the WSB ;p,but what the Bible says. That seems fair and it does become your free will choice.
Cheers Jan!
January 11, 2008 at 7:06 am #613793WesMemberKen, you starting to make me think you are bit of a conspiracy theorist….
So people are not perfect and when any religion has too much power abuse begins, I agree. People have agendas? Most people do. But this swings everywhere, not just the “religious right”. Almost everyone in politics, or it seems, does things that some people do not like.
Do you like Dave Barry?
“The Democrats seem to be basically nicer people, but they have demonstrated time and time again that they have the management skills of celery. They’re the kind of people who’d stop to help you change a flat, but would somehow manage to set your car on fire. I would be reluctant to entrust them with a Cuisinart, let alone the economy. The Republicans, on the other hand, would know how to fix your tire, but they wouldn’t bother to stop because they’d want to be on time for Ugly Pants Night at the country club.”
Soo good, everyone is guilty, everyone is fallen, just like Findlay said.
Findlay, email me sometime!
January 11, 2008 at 6:58 am #613607In reply to: Button pushing…
JanSParticipantWes…absolutely…there is always the chance that a belief/feeling will influence their decisions. This particular belief/feeling…the separation of church and state…is kind of important.
Even we will use our personal feelings/beliefs to make this momentous decision.
“It’s interesting that what I was taught about those that were coming to America to settle, were those that were being oppressed by religion in their countries. They wanted to worship freely.” Absolutely on that one, too, Wes…freedom from religious persecution….I suppose that’s why I have a difficult time with people who want to cram their religion down my throat. I even had the woman who stood up for me at my wedding tell me that if I didn’t believe as she did (her version of being “born again”) that I was going straight to hell. She sat in my living room with a straight face and told me that…I showed her the door, and never invited her back again.
So… a little insight into where I’m coming from, I suppose…
We just need to read, read, read some more…and make the best decision that’s right for us based on our beliefs….
Wes, you almost sound like you’re mellowing a bit :)
WesMemberAgain, the writer of the book “Liars for Jesus” makes some claims without basis himself and tells stories without citing references. Those things that he does cite seem true enough, though looking up those documents yourself seems to be what the book is calling on us to do ourselves. So they too have an agenda and a presupposition and I suppose if we wanted to know the truth we too can search those documents as well, right?
Case in point “Not all Americans during the Revolutionary War were the virtuous, Christian citizens portrayed in the religious right version of American history.”(Liars for Jesus, Chapter 1, Congress and the Bible, pg3, 3rd para). Who has made this claim for the author to refute it and why is he not citing a source for this? Also how does he know? He must be assuming, becasue a)as far as I know there is no time machine invented and b)it’s historical and can not be repeated exactly. It may be true or not but make your case Chris Rodda, so we don’t think we are beliving in more lies about suspected lies! And we as individuals should ask and look for these things too. Would you not agree?
January 11, 2008 at 6:28 am #613606In reply to: Button pushing…
WesMemberKayleigh, (I really like that name by the way) what date does science give about the age of the Earth today anyways? I think it just got bumped up last month to almost 1 billion. It seems that both have no clue how old the earth is.
Good stuff Ken, but as always I have to take this with a grain of salt, considering daily kos does have it’s own biases about how they think things should be too. But I would agree, what does our military have to do with evangelism?
Also the other article by the kos points out particulars about this very weird house resolution, and says, “It’s a lie.” Ok, show how this is a lie. In all fairness for me to find something you have written and then write in response, “It’s a lie.” would not be just. If it’s true let’s see it. Just because they say it doesn’t make it true, and that goes the same with those pushing for the bill. It still doesn’t seem like theocracy, which I would again assert has nothing to do with the New Testament or Jesus in any way.
As far as Rushdooney’s quote, and I have no idea who he is, what was the context for that statement?
Gary North’s comments are not at all correct biblically and is quite laughable.
It’s interesting that what I was taught about those that were coming to America to settle, were those that were being oppressed by religion in their countries. They wanted to worship freely.
Jan, would it be fair to say that every canidate, despite what they say, will make decisions based of their own presuppositions and beliefs that will affect us daily?
In the end I am still undecided, just like last time.
Good times neighbors!
January 11, 2008 at 6:15 am #613792FindlayMemberKen,
I would just say that you shouldn’t focus on what the “religious right” does. We are fallen people who follow are own way. Our actions are not obvious God-like as I’m sure your personal actions are sometimes not.
I would just listen to the message of the Gospel and make up your mind on where you stand.
The Gospel (â€Good Newsâ€)
There is one God who created everything (Heaven and Earth). That God is all powerful and is without sin.
God created man who fell, by trying to be God (worshiping creation rather than creator). In other words, we create idols (house, car, vacation, family, job, intellect, etc.) that lead us away from God.
Man is eternally separated from God in a state of rebellion. Man will die, permanently separated from the God of the Universe without a plan for salvation.
God so loved the world that he created that he sent his own son (Jesus) into creation to take on our sin so that we may be reconciled to him.
The Holy Spirit purpose is to convict us of our sin and to point us to Christ. By turning towards Jesus, God removes the sin the separates us from him.
The Bible was divinely inspired by God to allow us to learn about Jesus and the perfect plan of redemption.
If you doubt that God could do all such things, then your God is too small!
The New Year would be a perfect time to turn from your current ways (if not a Christian), keeping your eyes on eternity, with a new life of meaning, living for the God of the Universe rather than yourself.
This has nothing to do with elections, a Christion-nation, homophobia, men/women domination, abortion, etc.
It is just figuring out that you are not the center of your universe and that there is an eternal being that you need to be justified with.
As C.S. Lewis said, was Jesus was either a lunatic or a liar or Lord. You must make a decision!
January 11, 2008 at 5:19 am #613605In reply to: Button pushing…
JanSParticipantWes…I don’t like the way Mr. Romney has flip-flopped on quite a few things to satisfy different constituents over time…simple enough.
Mr. Huckabee? He can tell us all he wants that his religion will have nothing to do with his being president, but, let’s face it, he is more than just a lay person out there. He’s a Baptist minister…and I think there’s a side to him that he’s not quite being honest about. I think he would have a difficult time keeping the gov’t part and the religious part separate. I have no problem with him or anyone labelling themselves Christian. I do have a problem with my country’s leaders telling me that I have to believe that way, too…having it influence what would affect me on a daily basis…..and it’s just my opinion that ultimately he would do that.
On a political level, I’m not sure that either has the experience of dealing with foreign powers to be sufficient to deal with the things that we’re involved in right now in the world.
Ken…thanks for the very interesting reading…
January 10, 2008 at 6:32 pm #613598In reply to: Button pushing…
KenParticipantWes. Do you know anything about the history of the Southern Baptist convention and the changes made to it when it was taken over by Dominionist and Reconstructionists in 1979-1980?
Do you understand they forced out theologians and teachers that allowed any variations from the literal interpretation of the Bible, young earth creationism, and the paramount importance of the Old Testament and especially Leviticus?
The Baptist used to vary greatly since one of the tenants of their faith was that God revealed his message to each minister and member through his or her own study of the Bible. This “free will” was a core value of the protestant reformation since it took power from the feudal catholic church’s authoritarian abuse.
Here is a link to two of the better history and time-line pages.
http://www.mainstreambaptists.org/mbn/sbc_changes.htm
http://www.mchorse.com/sbcchronology.htm
Huckabee may not have been in on the takeover but he has continued to adhere to its message which will lead inevitably to a theocracy.
Gimme a mainstream Christian of any denomination and you will hear nothing from me on their religion until they too start mixing church and state.
January 10, 2008 at 5:25 pm #613661In reply to: Ron Paul caucus portal / meetup
KenParticipantI have defended Ron Pauls consistency in other forums. It is his world view that is flawed.
As far as those currently running for the Republican nomination, he is also the least hypocritical. Of course that bar is set by some world class hypocrites…
I am happy to see Fox shut out and smear one of the candidates from the right, only because it was apparently required to break through the cognitive dissonance of Libertarians who had been strolling along unconcernedly on a steady diet of Fox propaganda and fear-mongering.
Too bad the skepticism had to be kick-started in this manner but the Libertarians will probably emerge from this battle a little more relevant and focused.
Democrats will applaud the return of the constitutional powers to the balanced powers of co-equal executive, congressional and judicial branches, but will fight the theocratic, militant paranoid and “privacy for me but not for thee” branches of the libertarian political movements.
Hell, I might vote for him in the primary just to annoy the WA Republican party. The WA republicans are choosing half their delegates in the primary and the Dems are choosing all of theirs at the caucus. (note: Feb 9th, 1 pm at a school near you)
January 10, 2008 at 7:03 am #613781In reply to: Cell Service
acemotelParticipantI recently switched to ATT and I’m a happy camper. Reception is great everywhere, no dropped calls. The customer service is excellent. The sales person even gave me his private cell phone number to call in case we had trouble setting up one of our phones. He also worked to get us a special refund when the price of the phone dropped a few weeks after we bought it. I’m so happy to leave Verizon, where I had been a customer for years and years. One of my kids’ phones malfunctioned four months after he got it, and they were NO HELP at all. All those many years of faithful bill-paying were worth nothing. Of course, now that we’re all gone, they want us back, desperately.
January 10, 2008 at 6:50 am #613660In reply to: Ron Paul caucus portal / meetup
jbMemberHey, honestly Ron Paul is the most trustworthy guy out there. You might not agree about all that he stands for but at least he is consistent (look at his voting record). If you supported Bush in the last election you can should be leary of anyone whom promises one thing……and then does another.
Let’s end the one size fits all federal government….different regions of the U.S. should be run differntly as those regions represent different viewpoints/lifestyles. This what our founders wanted….That is what makes America great…..we can all live together promoting the message of freedom and individuality.
Hey even if you don’t lik what Ron Paul has to say….at least let him say it!! (i.e. FOX news). The media should not control what or whom w ehear from!!!
January 10, 2008 at 3:39 am #613779In reply to: Cell Service
JayDeeParticipantWhile there is always that “dead zone” between the top of the hill and the bottom (right around “Alki Mail and Dispatch”), I have found Verizon to have the best customer service, and the best coverage in general. From my understanding Clearwire is only an Internet provider of slower-than-DSL speeds (Clearwire is a tad coy about actual upload speeds…)
I do not know about your area–I’d quiz your neighbors if you are looking into it. There was/is an odd dead spot in Verizon coverage in the Alaska Junction if you hang there.
While this sounds lukewarm, I’ve gotten better customer service from Verizon wireless than any comparable utility.
January 9, 2008 at 9:03 pm #613464In reply to: Stopping For Pedestrians!
hopeyParticipantFrom the link posted above: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/walk/Images/CrosswalkLaw1.jpg
http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/walk/Images/CrosswalkLaw2.jpg
Those graphics make it pretty darn clear: drivers are not required to stop for a pedestrian standing on the curb. You don’t even have to stop for a pedestrian not in your half of the roadway.
for the moderator: markup doesn’t work in these posts, even when you use
backticks.January 9, 2008 at 10:36 am #613687In reply to: Let’s hear it for Sen. Clinton…or not
TrickParticipantI agree with Credmond on Obama.
#2 Edwards (definitely being left out of the media discussion)
#3 Clinton ( I don’t dislike her, I think she’s smart as a whip, I just think she’s following the centrist path and I personally think she’s too compromising)
January 9, 2008 at 3:42 am #613685In reply to: Let’s hear it for Sen. Clinton…or not
KenParticipantI like Hillary. I don’t like some of her voting record or her current triangulation . I liked Bill but I recognized the terrible future that both NAFTA and the various deregulation bills would bring.
I don’t trust her judgment, and her top advisor has lied to me face to face concerning touch screen voting.
Other than that I am undecided :)
Edwards is not the orator that Obama is but he understands the difference between health care and health insurance.
I also hope that Obama understands that Bipartisanship means different things to Republicans and to Democrats. Some Democrats still think it means compromise, while Republicans have redefined it to mean “Stand aside plebeians! I am on imperial business” (Recedite, plebes! Gero rem imperialem!)
However, if any of the three are the nominee, I will work my ass off to get them elected since they are all far more likely to “First, do no harm” than any of the Republican gang.
“The way to make money is to start your own religion.” [L. Ron Hubbard, 1954]
January 9, 2008 at 3:11 am #613659In reply to: Ron Paul caucus portal / meetup
KenParticipanthttp://www.ronpaulfacts.com/facts.htm
Just for fun.
If anyone wants to really really discuss why Ron Paul is almost as dangerous a loon as Huckabee, then this seems to be the place, but do your own research first. There is plenty of time before the next primary where they go head to head for the 15th century vote. (South Carolina)
January 9, 2008 at 3:02 am #613658In reply to: Ron Paul caucus portal / meetup
FreeRangeAuthorParticipantWell, the traditional way is to investigate what the candidate says and advocates …
Life is a self service proposition.
January 9, 2008 at 2:47 am #613581In reply to: HD: Comcast vs. Dish vs. Direct TV — West Sea RRs?
JayDeeParticipantThanks to all. I am really in a dilemma; half the Direct TV/Dish Subscribers really like it, no problem. beachdrivegirl had some really negative experiences with Direct TV, and Comcast has a spotty rep, some good, some bad, but generally higher prices.
Now Ken tells me that I will lose my local Weather Channel station input if I upgrade to satellite…This is the one thing that may keep me from switching–As a weather foamer (being rabid about it, that is) I switch between whatever station I am watching and the weather channel for a local radar/forecast shot when a commercial hits . While it seems obvious that I would miss this with satellite, I’d overlooked it.
I may just remain with Comcast for awhile, get a few upgrades from my current package, and see how this whole HD thing sorts itself out. However, for those doubting the move to HD: Do it, it is truly amazing what the quality difference is. My old TV was a stunner in it’s time, but 14 years later is nearly Jurassic Park for TVs.
Thanks all – JayDee
January 9, 2008 at 1:52 am #613684In reply to: Let’s hear it for Sen. Clinton…or not
KayleighMemberI caucused for Edwards last time and will caucus for him this time, too.
I like Obama, but I am less impressed with his rhetoric and emotional appeal than others seem to be (I’m pragmatic and skeptical. I want concrete plans for things like health care reform, voting records that support progressive causes, etc.)
Hillary engenders hatred in a lot of people. I don’t really understand why, and I don’t hate her myself. But for this reason alone, I do not want her to be our nominee, because I think it’s imperative that we win–and protect the country from further damage by the right wingers. Beyond that, personally, she is too conservative for me.
January 8, 2008 at 11:35 pm #586220Topic: Let’s hear it for Sen. Clinton…or not
in forum PoliticsWSMomParticipantI think that Senator Hillary Clinton would make a wonderful president of the US. I think she’s smart, organized, experienced and forthright. I agree with her positions on issues and I believe she has a good plan for turning our country around. Also, I would love to see a woman in the Oval Office. So why am I still undecided and flirting with Obama? I worry that if she’s the democratic candidate we could end up with another four years of a Republican presidency. So, Hill-raisers and Hill-haters out there, let’s start talking. I’m curious as to your real opinions regarding Sen. Clinton.
January 8, 2008 at 8:10 pm #613657In reply to: Ron Paul caucus portal / meetup
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January 8, 2008 at 4:56 pm #613656In reply to: Ron Paul caucus portal / meetup
cheyenneMemberAs an undecided voter, why would I want to support Ron Paul?
KenParticipantWhile the recent House of Representatives “Christmas resolution” was being covered in the PI generating 5 pages of condemnation of Jim McDermott for voting against it, another far more disturbing resolution was introduced, one which, does not appear to have been noticed by anyone.
On December 18, 2007, Congressman Randy Forbes (R-VA) introduced H. Res. 888, a resolution “Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation’s founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as ‘American Religious History Week’ for the appreciation of and education on America’s history of religious faith.”
This resolution, which purports to promote “education on America’s history of religious faith,” is packed with the same American history lies found on the Christian nationalist websites, and in the books of pseudo-historians like David Barton. It lists a total of seventy-five “Whereas’s,” leading up to four resolves, the third of which is particularly disturbing — that the U.S. House of Representatives “rejects, in the strongest possible terms, any effort to remove, obscure, or purposely omit such history from our Nation’s public buildings and educational resources,”
This is historical revisionism on a grand scale and it looks like it will slip through congress with no notice by the press busily baying like a pack of dogs across New Hampshire.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.RES.888:
For debunking of specific “whereas” see this book/website:
Many people here in WA have told me that the takeover of the Republican party in the 80’s by fundamentalist, was repulsed and corrected. Informed people know better. The stealth use of steeplejacking of existing churches, using fake history in homeschools and christian schools, and the appeal to authoritarians of the dominionist, punish everyone world view, has all but wiped out moderate republicans in the WA GOP.
The Theocratic wing of the Republican party is driving now and with Huckabee’s rise in the primaries, they will only get bolder.
January 8, 2008 at 5:51 am #613665In reply to: hair salons
MissKMemberI just got the best haircut I have had in a long time. Seven salon has advanced training for their stylists and they always need hair models. You can find these on Craigslist under the beauty section. Best $75 haircut I didn’t have to pay for :-)
On another note Ola salon, I tried 3 times and was not pleased with the results.
January 7, 2008 at 11:55 pm #613664In reply to: hair salons
andreaParticipantI recommend Ola Salon on Avalon Way. Its a great urban, fun, not like your grandma’s salon. I have been going to Sarah, who is a stylist there, for the last 5+ years and she is wonderful at haircutting as well as a genius as a colorist. Check them out at CitySearch.com for more info.
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