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[JoB]

Kayleigh, i am sorry you are having bad days at work. I wish we could do something for you there.

thanks for writing. this new voice, sense of hope, spirit thing is what i am getting everywhere.

If he is our candidate, i hope it works…

he’s not too sure though. he and move-on.org are petitioning democrats to pressure their party to lock super delegates to their state’s primaries.

Whether you think this is a good thing or a bad thing.. it doesn’t speak so much about his confidence.

i think i will send hillary some money today:)

[charlabob]

Is anyone else even slightly worried that (1) there won’t be an election in November because it will be too dangerous to change regimes or (2) there will be a conveniently scheduled attack on the US sometime in, oh, mid-October. Just checking.

I really don’t like the fact that nothing is UNimaginable…especially since I’ve never been a particularly imaginative person.

“the charla half …”

[Kayleigh]

Okay….and remember he’s not ‘my’ candidate; Edwards was my choice. Obama is my back-up choice.

Obama is young and handsome and energetic. He offers a true break from the past, a step away from old school democrats like Hillary and even Bill and hopefully a leap away from the broken dreams they remind me of. He has none of Hillary’s baggage (some of which is not her fault, but it’s there nonetheless.) He has a way of appearing to hover above the nasty political fray and believes (rightly or wrongly) that he can draw people together.

His voting record and online white papers (see his website) are progressive enough that I trust him to do his best to implement liberal policies.

He touches the hearts of young people, some not so much younger than I, who have the energy and idealism to help carry America forward.

The old Democrats’ ways have not gotten us very far in eight years; in fact, we’ve lost tremendous ground. It’s about more than policy and plans…it’s about a new voice and sense of hope.

No matter how smart she is, no matter that she’s a woman, no matter how die-hard her supporters are, I don’t get a real sense of hope from Hillary that she can turn the country around. That’s just a feeling, like you said, subjective. Doesn’t make me right.

I’m the first to say people should vote on policy and voting records and plans rather than personality–but I think many many Americans vote on personality. The thing is, what we see in others’ personality is something of a Rorscharch, isn’t it?

We all see something different in Hillary, and in that sense, I think she sometimes gets a raw deal. She’s too hard for some, too soft for others, too protective of her family or not protective enough, etc.

Sorry if I came across disrepectful—I continue to have bad days at work. Not good for my emotional welfare.

[Anonymous]

Job, are you asking me that or stating it? If it’s a statement, it’s untrue.

I think the person for the big job (just like for any job), should be the best qualified, regardless of gender or race.

McCain is pretty liberal and I have stated before that I’m not completely on board.

I’m curious why people feel strongly about each candidate. I just pointed out that andrea seemed to suggest she was behind Hillary because of the simply fact that she is a woman.

JoB, let me ask you, why Hillary? What is she going to do for you that has you so on board?

[JoB]

WE WANT HILLARY BECAUSE SHE IS THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB AND IT IS A BONUS THAT SHE HAPPENS TO BE A WOMAN!

i would say, oops, i shouted.. but i knew i was shouting.

Wouldn’t it be amazing if being a woman was thought of to be an advantage instead of an obstacle to overcome.

New resident, you want McCain just because he is a republican:)

[JoB]

squareeyes.. you would be welcome. we had another attendee at the last one who was also a touch shy of the age bracket.

heck.. you can be a mile shy of the age bracket in either direction and be welcome on saturday:)

[squareeyes]

I am a touch shy of the 50/60 range so wasn’t reading that thread although I am old enough to be a sibling. Can I be the tagalong little sis? I wouldn’t mind brunch and a bloody mary so will plan to be at Christo’s at 1pm tomorrow (Sat).

[Anonymous]

andrea, this kinda goes along with another thread, but I’m curious, why Hillary? From your post it seems you want her to be your candidate simply because she’s a woman. That can’t possible be your only justification. I am eager to find out what it is about each candidate that their supporters respond to.

[andrea]

And here I thought I was the only Hillary fan left! I felt so alone at our caucus…Well, I think a woman in charge is what this country needs to get back on its feet. Clearly anything is better than what we’ve lived through these last 8 years, but the best bet for everyone I truly believe is for Hillary to be our candidate!

[JoB]

LOL… Huindekmi…

one thing i know about Hillary.. you won’t get rid of her that easily:)

If she were a man, persisting in the face of virulent slanders and opposition would be called courage.

[JoB]

Bernicki and newresident…

i have never worn pajama bottoms as pants! I am a nice respectable little old lady:)

Now, i admit, i have left the front door to get the mail and i have entered my own back yard and i have occasionally answered the front door to solicitors in my flannel pajamas… but i am ill so i think that means bernicki would give me a pass:)

And new resident, should i see any kids in pjs i promise to high five them… these days you can’t offer them a cookie:)

and thanks for letting us know. if i had seen them without your information, i would have still been wondering what was with those kids:)

[JoB]

Wow.. look what happens when i go to lunch! I am really glad people are responding so positively to this thread. I am learning a lot.

Ken.. i didn’t know Ted Sorenson was still alive but perhaps he hit the nail on the head with one word… “spirit”, especially when he spoke of instilling spirit of service in the young.

Because that recalls those of us at the other end of the age spectrum of our youth:)

Comparing Kennedy and Obama has become quite a sport… they were both young.. they were both great speakers… they both inspired the youth… they both were members of a minority… i buy all of that. But that Obama’s speech about the Iraq war after we had already engaged in it showed similar judgment to Kennedy’s handling of the Cuban missile Crisis… not so much.

Kayleigh, just because i dispute objective evidence doesn’t mean i am not interested in subjective evidence.. what you think or feel.. not the rationalizations for feeling that way.

This isn’t’ about having Obama or Clinton as our candidate. I am still hoping she will pull it off. It’s about my lack of understanding the appeal of Obama. It’s not Clinton good.. Obama bad. It’s about why Obama?

I heard something on the radio while i was out that paraphrased was this: If we were choosing the best person for the job… it would be Clinton… but the best person to win and to inspire the nation is Obama.

My idealistic and dreamy self says that had there not been Obama, Clinton may have been able to do both…

but my more rational self says that had there not been Obama… we would probably be saying much the same things about Edwards.

I still don’t understand why so many rational people have chosen to look at the similarities between Obama and Kennedy (the great Presidential icon of our age) and not the differences… but they have.

And Ken, i will park my women’s lib self on the subject of the hatred of hillary and it’s base in fear:)… and the inconsistency i see there. Can we agree to disagree on that one ;-) or at least to call that one another thread for another time:)

[Anonymous]

Wish the same for the drivers who fly down 35th day or night, god forbid is someone is walking across the street or an animal decides to cross the street we would all be goners! Being close to School Zone Speed Signs that are bright yellow and flash has done nothing to stop the speeders. Slow Down For Pete’s Sake!

[Anonymous]

I agree that for someone to use our garbage cans for the disposal of their pets poo would be very much a violation. Why would I want to see and smell their dogs poo? Most people I know who are pet owners are responsibile and take bags and paper towels along on walks and take their dogs poo home with them. So far we haven’t had anyone deposit poo in our cans.

[Anonymous]

NewResident: So we live close by?? The house I am referring to is on 34th and it only has 1 dog a beautiful shephard mix that does not have a fur coat for cold and wintery days and nights. I have wanted to say something to the owners without totally offending them, but they apparently are gone all day and if I threw a blanket over the fence it would do very little on soggy days.

[Anonymous]

That was an inspiring speech (I’m sure he had help writing it), but what is his PLAN, Ken, that has you so supportive of him? What, exactly, is he ready to do to make our Country better?

I think anyone can give an inspiring speech about the history of America. It tells me nothing, though, about where he is going and how. That’s what I would like to know.

[Anonymous]

PrayingMan-tis-i… I agree. I think it is extremely informative and interesting to find out exactly what makes one person “love” one candidate over another. I wanted to know specifics as to how Obama is inspiring sooo much hope in so many people. I’m obviously on the other side of the fence, but I really want to know specifics. I would really like Ken to answer only because he seems so knowledgeable and is always able to convey what he thinks through his writing. I am very interested in this topic.

[Ken]

Cheney proved, once and for all, that experience is not a prerequisite for good decision making or even basic sanity.

Clinton only offers hope in a backhanded way. She would be far better then any of the Republicans.

Neither Dem candidate is progressive enough for me and I am not a lock step progressive anyway. (I believe the second amendment is pretty clear and easy to understand)

However, the alternative of fear is hope. That is the thing we all miss.

I quit being fearful a long time ago.

Most of you, perhaps, don’t remember the time when we huddled under out wooden desks as if they could protect us from the world. Most of you did not grow up with the only TV station being owned by Jesse Helms, and watch his daily attempts to make everyone within the sound of his voice, afraid of communist, Negros and fifth columnist (which I never really did understand just who might that be unless it meant those who were not afraid.)

Terrorist do not, and never have had the goal of destroying this country, the goal of terror is to create unreasoning fear and let the target destroy themselves with it.

Some of the younger voters and first time voters have had to come to the same realization.

A chance at a life of hope is better than a life based on fear.

Also I suspect some of them are better at math than the older set :)

The odds of getting hit by lightning while playing golf (even on a clear day) are better than getting injured in a terrorist attack.

The odds of getting killed by a drunk driver are quite high compared to getting in any situation where an assault rifle is the answer.

And the odds of a gay person getting married having any effect on my life in any way, only rise above zero if I am invited to the wedding.

So why are we making decisions, or letting out representatives make decisions based on unreasonable fear.

I choose hope over fear.

And at this moment in time, Obama has the edge in the hope department.

It would be a simple thing for Hillary to fold a little hope into her stump speech.

She could get Ted Sorenson (JFK’s speechwriter)

oops I just checked to make sure he was still alive and found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hupgC1d-St8

Well that kinda thing can derail a good rant :)

Who is writing Hillary’s speeches?

Damifino.

But if she can insert a little hope for the future she could still pull out of the “Joementum” she is creating for herself.

[Anonymous]

Bernicki… Thank you so much for that post! I would like to add to that list, AIRPORTS!

I just don’t get it!!!

[Bernicki]

An important message for the women of West Seattle:

Remember, unless it’s Pajama Day at your school, pajama pants are worn at bedtime, around the house on a lazy weekend, or if you are too ill to get dressed. Please do not wear them to restaurants, the post office, the grocery store, or anyplace else that might be defined as “in public.” This whole “rehab chic” thing HAS GOT TO END.

Thank you very much for your time. Now go get dressed.

[charlabob]

NR, I give the young-uns more credit; my 21 year-old friend moved from Obama to Clinton because she thought Obama made promises he couldn’t deliver and he was all sizzle. (I never could talk her into Edwards, because she’d decided he was homophobic — ya’ win some and ya’ lose some.)

Perhaps someone with allure and excitement *is* the best candidate for us now. Perhaps that’s what we need to get back into the world community and get out of this nationwide Non-Economic Depression. Or not. The best candidate is the one most likely to *help me* create the kind of world I want. Now, if I could only figure out who and what that is — and stick to it for five minutes.

JoB, I’m best at dewinding my own sails — imagine what it’s like to have endless arguments with myself. I either always or never win.

[JoB]

i think my dogs wouldn’t be such an easy meal. i have seen them hunt. but it isn’t good to have pets outside unattended at any time.

[JoB]

New resident… since i know you are on the other side of the aisle… or at least i know you lean republican… i would ask you about McCain’s plan.

Experience does count and the biggest campaign issue that republicans and democrats can agree on is the economy. How will experience be relevant in McCain’s plan for the economy?

And, it sounds to me as though his charisma doesn’t grab you much either. Or am i wrong?

JoB giggles uncontrollably… i have to admit for us dems… just as for you republicans… it doesn’t matter much who is the seat… whether i get it or not.. charisma or not… i will still be not only voting but working for my candidate. charlabob, you take the wind out of girl’s sails some days:)

[Anonymous]

Charisma can only carry you so far. I know that I would feel a lot better to have someone running an entire nation, OUR nation, who has experience. Doesn’t experience count for anything?

Job, I’m with you in the sense that a a candidate should be able to articulate their plan. Should be able to present details. I think this goes along with having experience.

[charlabob]

JoB — I don’t think any of us will have any problem advocating for whoever gets the Dem nomination; no one expects us to have facts. The other side isn’t hampered by that and we need to learn not to be. (Those of you “on the other side” can leap in here if you want; I’m not talking to you right now so I’ll freely use “us” to mean “us”). :-)

Here’s what we say: “We support Clint-Bama because s/he ain’t McCain.” Charisma? McCain? Not for me — But I’m immune to Obama’s charisma too. I do think he’s bright and talented and ready and, oddly, he’s more like me than Hillary.

Kayleigh — neither of them has what I consider a significantly progressive voting record. Of all the smart experienced dem senators available, Obama chose *Lieberman* as his mentor. He campaigned actively for Lieberman in the Connecticut primary (he did NOT campaign for him in the general election, but he also did not join many of his fellow dem stars, including both Bill and Hill, in campaigning for Ned Lamont). As far as I’m concerned, that alone nullifies his claim to be antiwar from the beginning. On yet another hand, Hill and Barack voted the same as Lieberman on all but 3 key war votes in the past year. So what does that tell me, except I can provide anything depending on what day it is and what time I get up?

On still another hand (am I up to 4 yet?), Obama speaks vehemently against NAFTA,CAFTA, and all of the other TAs that have decimated our labor force because they were badly implemented. Globalization is a fact — we can use it to raise all boats or we can use it to sink ours — BILL Clinton chose to do the latter. As an organizer, Obama helped people get back on another boat (or at least avoid drowning).

I’m not a war-only person, so I balance the war (which, sadly, I think will drone on no matter who gets elected) against the economy and other interests and, overall, Obama is ahead by a nose.

Fortunately, I don’t have to do anything more until the general election, so I can go back to working locally (Go Darcy Burner!)

the c half — all opinion, all the time