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  • #767217

    kootchman
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    right elikapedia…. exactly… Hope and Change was Bait and Switch…now they know and the dewy eyed are now pragmatic, realistic…. there never was Hope and Change… and it sure didn;t mean jobs or economic prosperity.

    #767218

    kootchman
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    Let’s all sit back and enjoy the Janet Napolitano and her sisters .. the Homeland Security and ICE Sorority Sisters gone wild Sorority. Guess it just goes to show.. sexual harassment is part of having power.. too funny! Obama has a team … can you imagine the press if this was a conservative… or a male republican? Suzanne Barr..you are going to be a new media star.. and Janet is going up on the hill… perfect timing. The Joe and Janet show…. anyone surprised?

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79552.html?hp=l4

    #767219

    kootchman
    Member

    JV… another Joe… “who says GM can’t lead the automotive industry in the 20th century”…. well Joe they did. Now, the 21st century is of more concern. And the Virginia voters can win North Carolina…. now wonder NC has a voter ID program… Joe is going to have the VA voters vote in NC too!!!!! More joe, more! You wonderkind …we love ya.

    #767220

    JanS
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    manufactured outrage….and there will be more. There is so much dishonesty, so many lies, so many distortions in this campaign, and the official presidential campaign hasn’t even started. It makes me sick. Romney and his 718B being cut from Medicare – a lie. Now, Romney spouting off about a campaign of hatred. Give me a break. Different voting laws in Ohio for Dems and Repubs – Mr. Husted finally intervening…again, give me a break..do they think we’re stupid? And…you all have to manufacture a “racist” thing about Biden? Again…give me a break !

    #767221

    JanS
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    speaking of VP candidates….

    “Ryan’s first successful piece of legislation was a bill “To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1818 Milton Avenue in Janesville, Wisconsin, as the ‘Les Aspin Post Office Building.'” It became a law in 2000.

    Since then, he has been the sponsor of only one other bill that has become a public law of the United States, according to records kept by the Library of Congress — a measure introduced in 2004 “To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the taxation of arrow components.” (That one’s a bit of a self-interested move on his part, as Ryan is enjoys bow hunting.)

    That’s it. No other piece of legislation sponsored by Ryan has been able to win the support of both houses of Congress and a president during his 13-and-a-half years in office.”

    this is from an article about him in the Atlantic…

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/08/the-real-ryan-record-2-minor-bills-lots-of-high-profile-talk-gridlock/261069/#

    #767222

    redblack
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    i, too, love joe biden. and i’ll defend his comment:

    putting wall street back in charge by cutting regulations and looking the other way while they loot the treasury is akin to putting americans into servitude.

    get it?

    i didn’t think so.

    were you angry about this?

    The “unchain” rhetoric is not the preserve of Biden, alone. About a year ago, campaigning at the Iowa fairgrounds, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum described how President Obama’s healthcare law represented “the end of liberty,” adding: “They will put you in chains called ‘Obamacare,’ and you will never break away.”

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-joe-biden-used-chains-metaphor-before-to-hit-republicans-20120815,0,6322670.story

    anyway, biden’s follow-up to the media outrage over the “chains” comment was hilarious. it was along the lines of, “i know i’m sometimes accused of saying exactly what i mean.”

    #767223

    JoB
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    JV..

    you know i have figured out the secret to right wing soundbites..

    they take what they could be accused of and then accuse the other side hoping to control the conversation

    they may control soundbites that way..

    but the conversation? no.

    dream on.

    #767224

    JoB
    Participant

    JV

    “Don’t forget the dog on the roof story…that’ll trick ’em into talking about something besides unemployment!!”

    somebody made a really cute little book out of that one. i saw it at the library last night..

    #767225

    JoB
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    kootch..

    “JV.. we were decided voters a year ago. what counts now… is, can Romney and Ryan appeal to half the undecideds.. who are there because they are waiting for a reason to vote.”

    I for one can’t thank Mitt enough for giving the great undecideds a reason to vote.

    it may not be the one he had hoped.. but there you go.

    you throws the dice you takes your chances

    #767226

    JoB
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    kootch..

    i followed your Janet link…

    after reading the “dirt” that is supposed to make me writhe in fury I find i have one question

    what is it about strong influential women that gets your knickers in such a bunch?

    the same story related about a male official would have you raising beers to the fellow in question for putting those uppity women in their place… moving their desks to the toilet indeed

    i don’t know whether this story is sour grapes or valid criticism. Who can tell?

    but for the record… because i know you will try to find some way to spin this

    i am not in favor of women in power acting like the men they replaced.

    i bet that’s the part that gets your panties in a bunch anyway…

    women acting just like they had the rights and privileges of men…

    We can’t have that ;->

    #767227

    JoB
    Participant

    Redblack

    i hadn’t seen this

    “anyway, biden’s follow-up to the media outrage over the “chains” comment was hilarious. it was along the lines of, “i know i’m sometimes accused of saying exactly what i mean.” “

    i love a man who not only understands what he said but is willing to stand up for it

    that statement was the frosting on the cake that moved my like to love..

    i love that man!

    #767228

    miws
    Participant

    what is it about strong influential women that gets your knickers in such a bunch

    JoB, I know that you know the answer to this already, but I have a strong hunch


    there!


    I said it!—HUNCH that the answer to that is because they are…..

    ….[snip]….strong influential women…..[snip]….

    Also, probably because they probably look a helluva lot better in knickers!

    And I like Joe too!

    And Bernie Sanders!

    Mike

    #767229

    dhg
    Participant

    Biden quote: Don’t tell me what you value. Show me your budget and I’ll tell you what you value.

    Love the guy. What does Ryan value? He’s been on the public teat since he was 18 but he wants to block everyone else.

    #767230

    JoB
    Participant

    dhg..

    Ryan was on the public teat before he was 18.

    His family’s money was made in government funded road construction.

    if not for the kind of public works ryan thinks are a waste of taxpayer money, he wouldn’t have had the advantages that led to his career in public service..

    #767231

    metrognome
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    the neo-cons are upset because Joe was speaking the truth. The whole goal of a very small group of predominantly white people amassing obscene fortunes and domination of the consumer market (“I owe my soul to the company store”) is to keep (*euphamism alert*) ‘the people’ down. At this point, I would try to get JoB to declare her love again by posting Randy Newman’s anthem on this topic, but the ‘n word’ is used repeatedly. No doubt y’all (oops, there I go talkin’ down to ‘the people’ agin, y’all) kin find it on that thar Yoo Toob thingy.

    Of course, this goes hand in hand with the neo-cons efforts to paint a mixed-race president as unAmerican by saying he is full of hate for this country, blah, blah, blah. Now, they are even trying to Swift Boat Obama.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/President/2012/0816/Are-Obama-critics-using-Swift-Boat-tactics

    However, their most insidious effort is to strip low-income minorities of that freedom which defines our democracy — the freedom to vote. That’s why they are diverting attention to Biden using the classic “oh look, a chicken” ruse. They are afraid that if Americans truly discuss what Biden said, they will see he is right.

    #767232

    oddreality
    Participant

    I like Biden, he is real.

    For the conservatives to say he should be fired is disingenuous at best. Bush made gaff after gaff and he was never fired, indeed they hired that buffoon twice.

    #767233

    redblack
    Participant

    metrognome: i hope you don’t have me on “ignore” because of the whole tunnel/transit/mcginn thing. i know we’ve had our differences, and they’ve been heated, but i still love your comments.

    keep it up, comrade. you rock.

    #767234

    JoB
    Participant

    redblack

    i couldn’t agree more

    metrognome has been rocking lately

    and he links a mean seranade

    #767235

    metrognome
    Participant

    why, thank you … thank you verrry much. (I was driving home alone from SoCal the day Elvis died and had only an AM radio for entertainment … it was a *very* long drive as I was not a huge Elvis fan.)

    I must say, Rachel Maddow and Carl Levine, D-MI are two of my heroes. The extremism of the radical neo-con right is very troubling; the fact that they no longer hide the fact that they are willing to hold this country hostage using any tactic necessary, incl disenfranchising citizens from voting, until ‘we’ agree to their complete takeover is unprecedented in the history of this country. This isn’t just a philosophical disagreement of the type that used to be worked out in committee; this is about whether our country remains a true democracy.

    red/black — so *you’re* the one … just kidding. I try to take a longer view of things, using the approach that no event is ‘good’ or ‘bad’ in itself. What is more important is how we hold that event in our life and how we discover and use the opportunities it presents. I know that probably sounds sappy, but I grew up with a parent who was hypercritical of everything and everyone and I saw how much happiness it cost her.

    So, here’s your first serenade …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3KlXn4Rsh4

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