We Surround Them

[Sky2625]

Anyone know of any meet-ups for this event in West Seattle?

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[WSB]

Hadn’t heard of this so of course I had to look it up.

If you haven’t already found this page, here’s a link, which at this writing doesn’t list anything in WS, but does mention Burien:

http://wesurroundthemmap.com/WA.htm

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[Ken]

So no one else has to click the link, this seems to be a fan club for Glen Beck, one of the few people more insane than Cheney.

Note the linked page does not even have any clues as to what cryptic wingnuttery is at the base url.

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[rockhills]

Google is a wonderful thing. These are viewing parties for a Glenn Beck show airing the afternoon of March 13. Looks like you need to start your own if you want one in WS, but, then, the month is young.

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[JoB]

ken..

thanks for the info.. i was clueless…

and i think that is a very good thing.

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[HMC Rich]

Sky, March 13 up in Shoreline in the evening at 7:30pm (DVR or tape delayed) and in Burien Live at 2pm. If you haven’t done so already go to http://www.meetup.com and register. It is FREE (to join) Helen and I are in a couple of the meetups. We originally joined when we rescued a Basset Hound and wanted to meet some other basset owners.

There are meetups of every kind in masses of cities. It is a great way to meet new people of similar interests. Politically speaking, during the last election the Ron Paul people and local Democrats used it very effectively as did the groups that protest certain items in Seattle.

As for We Surround Them, basically, if you believe in at least 7 of 9 (Not the lovely Star Trek Voyager character) principles and the 12 values that Glenn has laid out, it might be worth checking out that afternoon or evening. I want to go to the Burien one but that is nap time for the little one.

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[JoB]

this seems so innocuous until you look a little deeper…

Rush Limbaugh is apparently not the only conservative who wants Obama to fail..

Glen Beck says he isn’t a republican…

but as far as i can see he is just a kinder gentler sneakier Rush Limbaugh…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck

You should know who you are dealing with and what their agenda is before you go…

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[Sky2625]

So now that JoB has made this sound so sinister, I’ll actually back up a step and explain it:

I tend to believe that beneath all of the argument and partisanship, most of us are pretty typical Americans. And by that, I mean we share a belief in the basic principles upon which our country was founded. But we’re so caught up in the emotionality of partisan positions, we forget that we’re all standing on common ground.

In his position as radio host, Glenn Beck seems to have noticed an increase in the number of callers who felt as if they were alone in their belief in common principles. Callers seemed to feel as if no one is DC was listening to their concerns, and that few people share their values.

So Glenn Beck put together a tv/radio campaign, based around the premise that “you are not alone” and that “we surround them”. Basically, it’s an effort to show Washington DC who really has the power in this country, and what it is that we believe in. It’s an effort to bring Americans that share common principles together for a sense of community and hope.

So Glenn outlined 9 basic principles he feels are important to the character of this country, and asked listeners/viewers to send in their own pictures if they agreed with at least 7 of the 9 principles. Further, he added 12 values that he believes are critical to the health of this country.

I read them, and I agree with at least 7. So I sent in my pic.

The 9 principles and 12 values can be read at: http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/21018/

I for one am looking for a meetup in order to feel like I’m not alone in my beliefs. I have a need to confirm that we DO share basic principles. Above all, I think I’d like to introduce myself to similarly-inclined people, and see if we think there’s anything we can do locally in support of these principles.

Thanks for the info on meet-up locations, HMC and Rockhills. I’d read about both Burien and Shoreline, but was hoping for a WS-version.

I’ll be working, so I can’t watch it live.

Man, it’s lonely arguing from the Founding Principles section of the right-of-center crowd. Sigh.

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[RS]

That website is really fascinating from a social rhetoric perspective. I find it interesting when groups use the language of a siege mentality- I’m alone against all these other voices that are more powerful, etc., and then go on a more offensive “we’re the real America and we can make ourselves heard” kind of bent. Decidedly interesting when you consider the racial, social and geographic make-up of said group.

And you have to admit that “we surround them” has a decidedly sinister ring. Reminds me of “from beneath you, it devours”. But I guess that just makes me a nerd.

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[JoB]

Sky2625..

so you don’t see this as a way to derail the results of the election by building the kind of groundswell movement that got Obama elected to prevent him carrying out his programs?

And you don’t think the wording used in those principles are a bit emotionally misleading?

As i said, on first glance it all looks pretty agreeable and innocuous.

I won’t go point by point.. but there are some real winners in there.

you could start with his basic premise that any program that attempts to turn back the transfer of wealth from the most wealthy to those that wealth actually came from (i know… end sum) is socialism.. or social engineering.

I wonder why it wasn’t social engineering when the money was being transfered from the poor and middle class to the wealthy? That’s where the equity in our retirement accounts went… and our housing values.. and…

and we aren’t done paying for the lifestyles of the rich and not so famous yet. We will be paying for them for years.

but then.. i always have been suspicious of rhetoric.

Then there is that bit about it not being un-american to have dissenting opinions but it could well be anti-american.

hmmm. where have i heard that before?

even the basic premise that america is good…

does that mean what america does is good? what if i wasn’t so keen on the “renditions” or the torture at Guantanamo.. does that make me anti-american?

and that bit about the constitution. I notice he was very careful to add “as the founders intended” as a qualifier.

Of course, the founders intended the constitution to be a document that would be modified over time by changing circumstances… but that little fact does seem to be absent in his statement.

now that would be easy to overlook, wouldn’t it.

and that bit about charity.. i get to decide when and who i give my money to…

sounds great until you realize that he is not just talking about his family’s after tax income.. he is talking about the taxes he pays as well…

in other words no “entitlement” programs.

Is everyone aware that public education is an entitlement program? Food stamps? Social Security? Medicare? workers comp… unemployment insurance… Etc….

Yes, i can see that conservatives have learned from Obama..

they now see the benefit of conversation with the masses… and building mass support…

to quote glen.. do you feel nobody is listening to you?

There are several things which differentiate this movement from the one they are copying.. the Obama camps that jumpstarted his campaign.

the first is that Beck’s counts on ignorance. He still seems to believe that the masses can be swayed by nothing more than emotional rhetoric.. and won’t bother thinking things through to look at the actual meaning behind that rhetoric.

unfortunately, the realistic part of me agrees with him.. after all more than half of America voted for Bush for a second term based on nothing more than his un-kept promises and a call to patriotism.

Obama built his slogans on the outcome of the discussions at the Obama camp discussions. He continues to count on people being smart enough to understand the actual meaning behind the slogans…

he believes most American’s are smart enough to understand the logic behind the argument… so he explains it. He is not counting on emotionally charged arguments alone to carry his message.

The second is that although Glen asks if you feel heard, he has already structured the conversation… he is telling you up front what you should think about.

The reason Obama camps were so successful is that they asked questions first and created talking points from the answers they got from participants.

That is the definition of bottom up…

Glen’s process is top down… he tells you what to think and sells you on his story.

Sinister? no. slick? yes.

And the ultimate purpose? Not to derail Obama’s current programs because they are necessary to slow the implosion of our economy… but to set up discontent with the limited results that are possible.. to set up unreal expectations and to generate anger when they aren’t fulfilled… to prevent the passage of programs that could do anything more than stem the tide of this “downturn” by labeling them socialism.

This is all about power.. not about outcome.

Talk about anti-American… lets let this president stem the failure of our economy but tie his hands at steps that would rebuild it…

lets not change anything that would hinder the flow of those dollars from the chumps that work for it and can be defrauded to those brilliant minds who understand how to capitalize on the system…

After all.. this is america…

how was it he put it.. we should all have rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness but should not expect an equal outcome…

buried in that one is that we shouldn’t expect an equal opportunity either…

Are those what you call founding principles?

Somehow i don’t think even the elitist crowd who crafted the Constitution would have agreed with those.

Wasn’t it Jefferson who told us to beware the power of the financial sector. Yes.. i know he specifically mentioned banks in the quote being bandied about these days.. but he was equally cautious about other speculators…

Fool me once.. shame on you…

Fool me twice.. shame on me…

I’m not buying..and not just because i am some leftie who doesn’t uphold the Founding Principles of our nation… I’m just not that gullible.

Somehow an elite group of citizens have managed to convince Americans that it was un-American to demand governmental policies that were in their best interests…

it’s American .. patriotic… to bite the bullet and demand policies that enrich the few…

I am sure that Glen Beck will be able to emotionally engage some people…

but in the long run you can’t get blood out of a stone… and the economic lifeblood of the American middle class has already been extracted… their capacity to carry debt exceeded.

Paying for entitlement programs looks a lot better when you find yourself a dwindling bank account away from needing them…

things may look pretty good to you right now gambling on commodities.. and you are right to feel secure since economics downturns produce more suckers for the game… but sooner or later even the suckers don’t have anything left to gamble…

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[Bayou]

Well, RS, guess you won’t be needing any of the t-shirts either…

“Torches and Pitchforks–Protecting Americans From Politicians Since 1791.”

“Screw the Caribou – Drill Alaska”

“I Love Halliburton”

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[JanS]

here’s my question…who the hell wins if Obama fails? Me? not hardly…America? oh, not even close. So…what’s the point of these oh, so “patriotic” people? They’re damned sore losers and don’t care a whit about this country. They’re blustery, full of hot air, like to hear themselves talk, and haven’t got one damned solution…that’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it. If you all want to believe that Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh have something intelligent to say, to share, to help the ppeoploe of this country, then have at it. You want a meet-up? Google is a friend (OMG, I sound like someone else who no longer posts on here – wow).

A discussion between those who care for these two guys and their beliefs and those who don’t, in my opinion, will get us nowhere. No minds will be changed.

The fact that Mr. Limbaugh couldn’t even quote Preamble correctly shows me that he isn’t leadership material…JMHO

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[JoB]

So JanS..

what do you really think :)))))

Rush Limbaugh is what he is.. it is pretty easy to tell after hearing him for 10 seconds what he thinks.

Glen Beck is a little harder. i actually tuned into him yesterday for nearly 15 minutes before i shook my head and turned him off.

At first he seems so dang reasonable.. then he gets comfortable and tells you what he really thinks and you realize those reasonable statements are just an enticement….

he seems to want to see how far you will go with him.

for someone who calls himself an independent.. his views are pretty knee jerk right wing conservative republican….

but hey.. noone has to take my word for it.. go read his website.. or his wiki entry…

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[WSMom]

http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/politics/2009/03/04/delay_limbaugh/

“The GOP’s reputation is circling the drain, and President Obama’s approval ratings are at an all-time high, according to a new WSJ-NBC poll. Just under 70 percent of Americans approve of Obama’s performance, while only 19 percent of Americans disapprove, despite GOP obstructionism and loons like Limbaugh fervently wishing he’ll fail. Only 26 percent of those polled have a favorable view of the GOP — an all-time low. Still, terrified Republicans are trying to have it both ways: Keep the divisive Limbaugh on his big white pedestal, while blaming Democrats for saying he’s their party leader.

But come on: Did Nancy Pelosi make Rep. Phil Gingrey apologize to Limbaugh last month for criticizing him? Did Howard Dean make Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele crawl to Limbaugh exactly 51 minutes (according to “Hardball”) after Limbaugh attacked him on his radio show yesterday, and say he hadn’t meant to call Limbaugh’s behavior “incendiary” or “ugly”? Is Harry Reid the reason it’s impossible to find one, even one, Republican to criticize Limbaugh on the record — without then racing to kiss his ring and apologize?

It’s Tom DeLay, not President Obama, who is now designating Limbaugh as his party’s “role model.” It’s irresistible to respond: Really? Limbaugh’s the “role model” for the party of family values? A thrice-divorced, drug-abusing, Parkinson’s-mocking, cigar-sucking egomaniac, a poster boy for meanness, overindulgence and excess? Some folks in my letters lately have objected to my discussing some of Limbaugh’s personal traits, particularly his physical appearance at CPAC, where he I said he looked “sweaty and hopped-up.” Facts are facts: He was sweaty and hopped-up. And with Tom DeLay saying he’s a Republican role model, I think we have to take in Limbaugh — all of him –to fully appreciate his outsize impact on the shrinking Republican Party.”

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[JoB]

it’s sad, isn’t it.

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[Trick]

80% of americans are for this stimulus package.

Rush is an entertainer, preys on fear and those that believe in Cowboy Capitalism that has failed.

If Obama is elected once again, what does it say about the message that Government can be involved to create a postive effect when all conservative ways have left us in shambles?

What other industrialized country strictly functions successfully without government involvment?

Don’t kid yourself. The strict right wing principles have never worked without creating more debt and shrinking the middle class.

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[HMC Rich]

Where is the love? Sometimes you are sooo judgmental. It is just a few people getting together, or is free speech only the intellectual property of the left. Ignore it if you don’t like it.

Glenn is talking about every politician in this country not just BHO. Your poll numbers are not correct but Barack is still popular and he will remain so with the left.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/right_direction_wrong_track/right_direction_or_wrong_track

The great thing is that in less than 100 days into his Presidency the Right is waking up and might just cause some changes to take place in two or four years. Too bad it takes a Democrat to get them to do that.

The rest of this post is going to be geared toward Libertarians or generally people who are conservative or moderate viewpoints. That is who Beck is gearing this towards also. You lefty’s already know this and he has stated so also. You can play if you want but if your not nice…leave.

BHO and the Congress are changing our Federal Government rapidly. Fast change makes some people nervous. When the biggest “stimulus bill” in our history is passed and none of the senators or house members staffs can fully read it before the vote, you start to worry a bit.

Look at some numbers. Federal Deficit past and projected:

2006 – 248.2 Billion (not good)

2007 – 160.7 Billion (better but not good)

2008 – 454.8 Billion (very bad)

2009 (projected) – 1.9 TRILLION DOLLARS

What some of you know but ignore is that the founding fathers did not want an overly intrusive government. 52% is not an overwhelming majority to change the face of our government. The next two years the left will do what they can to get every project they want funded by the federal government. Government grew under Bush and his administration and is on steroids under Obama.

Many of us were already miffed that the Republicans (BO) Before Obama, were spending too much and seeing government grow. Then the bailout billions came. Now we see Washington spending like drunken sailors. It is alarming.

In WWII the nation spent more but they did not have the unfunded debt of Social Security and Medicare on the horizon.

Coming up is a great experiment. FDR and Obama want(ed) big government to solve a depression/recession. Reagan did it the opposite way than FDR. I guess we will see what will happen, but my guess is that hyper inflation starts in 2011. GOD I HOPE I AM WRONG!!! PLEASE LET ME BE WRONG!!!!

We can’t afford this massive government increase and in eleven years the baby boomers start retiring in earnest and eventually Social Security will not be able to cover what has been promised.

What we can do is talk about what we have in common and see what we as a country deserve from our government.

Glenn has laid out his thoughts and now we should discuss them.

I do not see what the left in this city has to worry about and why they are so condescending. They own this city almost 3 to 1.

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[JanS]

HMC…I don’t mean to play “mean”…I just get tired of these buffoons pretending that it’s Pres. Obama that has done this to our economy. If people want to believe that, I suppose it’s their right…but…it was left in his lap like a hot potato…Bush abdicated long before his successor took office. Where’s the damned responsibility…where was the outcry of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh when Bush/Cheney and their cohorts were running this country into the ground? Yeah, I’m pissed…for all of us, including you…no one likes to be reminded that all of the things that are wrong right now occurred well before Barack Obama took his oath of office. And these people would have me believe that he’s a failure? That his programs won’t work? That we are doomed because of him? I call BS on it…and if that’s not nice, I’m sorry. They don’t have any better ideas..only the rhetoric of the last however many years that didn’t work.

I look at things from the perspective of the smallest of small business people – self-employed…who has been screwed, who turned 62 today, and is scared to death that what is wrong with the economy will put me on the streets.

Some will say that I’m at fault, that I simply didn’t plan for my later years properly..well, they aren’t in my shoes, and haven’t lived my life. There are a lot of us out here who are older, have found that a comfortable retirement is no longer in the picture. And then I look at things from a personal standpoint…the insurance that I have now is medicaid…because my breast cancer was found in a state sponsored and paid for mammogram. It entitled me to be covered by insurance when I had none.

I see these people who want to cut social programs…that affects me…I see these people who say we should do away with Soc. Security…that affects me.

I don’t think that Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh give a damn about me OR you…why should I discuss their ideas like they’re viable? Yeah, it’s not playing nice…too bad. I truly don’t mean to offend you or anyone else on here. I am usually a very mellow person, and I try to not judge, lest I be judged. I simply have very strong feelings about/against? these to particular people. They advocate failure, not because it’s good for the country, but because they like to hear themselves talk…and that’s scary.

here’s something to read….and then…have at it here :)

http://stonekettlestation.blogspot.com/2009/03/appearance-of-leadership.html

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[JoB]

HMCRich…

ignoring the rhetoric of the right brought us the Clinton impeachment attempt, 8 years of George W Bush, a war we never should have waged, a private army we paid for but didn’t control, US sanctioned torture and an unprecedented deficit and the resulting economic meltdown.. and that’s the short list.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Yes, the right has realized that it is going to have to actually appeal to the public to win back power…

So now is the time to speak up and expose the con job they are doing for the con job it is.

We can’t afford to be nice guys and ignore the fact that their emperors are not wearing clothes.

there is simply too much at stake.

If you understand what you are attending when you attend a Glen Beck get together and you still want to go.. have a great time!

But if speaking up alerts just one person that their emotional strings are being pulled and makes them question the end results of that rhetoric.. then it will have been well worth the time taken to speak up.

The end result of Republican power has been an economic collapse that still may exceed the misery of the great depression… And we are already at war.. a war won’t pull us out of this one.

The end result of Republican power has been an erosion of ethical standards in politics… an erosion of citizen rights and freedoms… an erosion of the efficiency of our disaster relief organizations… an erosion of public morals…

again.. the short list.

We should welcome them back because????

If you were really advocating for fiscal conservatism you would be cheering Government contract reform…

and advocating for line item veto.. which could cut every pork barrel project some senator or representative thinks their power should buy their state regardless of the purpose of the bill they are passing right out of our spending habits…

and gut the power of lobbyists…

but that’s not on the agenda.. is it?

Fool us once shame on you.

Fool us twice shame on us.

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[JoB]

JanS…

they advocate failure because they base their concept of the health of the nation by the number of millionaires created…

they believe their own rant.. that the market would balance itself if if left to market forces.

They ignore the fact that fraudulant loans… toxic loans were packaged as securities and spread throughout the financial system.

They ignore the fact that the stock market has been held afloat by the infusion of captive retirement funds that are not manged by either their owners or any entity with a vested interest in their long term health.

They believe it’s all a game and winner takes all.

and they have expended billions of dollars in an ad campaign to sell this con job to us.

Their con job failed when they sucked the last dollar out of the middle class pocket.. and left us with nothing but debt and the prospect of more debt to keep the economy from collapsing.

We have financed their lifestyles and it has been good for them. why would they want to give it all up?

They are out of touch with reality.. which is why executives thought themselves entitled to bonuses after running their companies into the ground.. why executives who fail are given a golden parachute for doing a bad job.

why shouldn’t republican politicians get a golden political parachute for doing a bad job? Lobbyists will give it to them if they can regain control.

reality bites and it is biting all of us now…

even those who call themselves libertarians and independents and confuse the language of commerce with the language of liberty.

They can choose to go down with this titanic if they want.. but i’m not willing to let them punch holes in the lifeboats… those lifeboats are too important.

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[shadowpilot]

Interesting conversations from all. It is wonderful to think and consider the complexities of our lives and beliefs.

It is the beliefs that I find most interesting. Some can listen and consider the points for themselves, actually check them out at a gut level, and make up there own minds about what fits for them and what doesn’t. Others listen and find the things that make them comfortable and already fit with their beliefs and jump on board with the whole program.

It is hard to actually listen to what others have to say and really consider it on its own merits. We are all coming from a place of prior experience. It is hard to get out of our own way and truly learn.

HMC I read that you want to discuss Glenn’s thoughts. I would like to hear more of yours. If I were to join in a face to face discussion I would want a sharing of our own ideas and beliefs with no agenda to convince or convert anyone to a specific set of beliefs. I would welcome a conversation where when it ended we all said “That is interesting I will have to think about it.”

I would also like to ask for a little help with history.

Did the founders of this great country want small non-meddling government so that it would not interfere with slave owning and exploitive money making?

Could we get a list of the changes Bush and Clinton and Reagon made to government during their first months in office?

I challenge all of us to stop and look at the roots of our beliefs. Are the thoughts and ideas we have our own? Where they put there by our parents, teachers, friends, families? Okay that is a yes for us all, but the real issue is do we truly agree with them ourselves, right here right now in our own lives?

What are we all afraid of? Are we willing to say that we are wrong? Are we willing to risk being wrong to actually know what we believe?

If not then talking together will get us just the knowledge that we are not alone. It will not make us more understood or give us new knowledge about ourselves and others. It will not give us any more control over our lives.

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[Ken]

relevant quote:

They got us surrounded. The poor bastards.

– Attributed to a 101st ABN paratrooper, Bastogne 1944

And a personal note. My father was south of Bastogne with the 3rd Army Engineers and I am told he swore he would never be that cold again by choice. Until he died in 1960 he drove to Florida whenever the temp in NC dropped below freezing. His employer, a fellow 3rd army vet, loaned him a new car from the lot every time he went.

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[JoB]

shadowpilot…

in spite of what appears to be all evidence to the contrary…

this is exactly what i wish we could do…

enumerate the realities and then step outside rhetoric and ask what can realistically be done to remedy the situation. We can’t do that when we automatically label every remark from our opposition as rhetoric.

this isn’t about us and them any more.. we are all in this together and we will have to find a solution together.

there is much i don’t like about what democrats are doing right now. i worry about their putting together a program that has the appearance of a solution but is in reality more pandering to business and political posturing without substance… i believe some of the legislation already passed is just that.

but, spending energy figuring out how to unseat those currently in a place to create beneficial legislation instead of pressuring those we have elected.. on both sides of the political fence… to give us substance is a waste of time and energy we can’t afford right now.

Thank you for saying this for me in a way i have been unable to articulate.

On a recent Bill Moyers program, there was a speaker whose name i can not recall (but hubby has him on the library list) who spoke of embracing reality yet living in possibility who articulated my core philosophy in a way i have never managed.

We need to live in reality right now.. not what could or should be.. but what is. What could or should be is the possibility we work towards… it is a goal…

when we concentrate on what could or should be… reality falls short and we concentrate too much energy on blame… which distracts us from analyzing failures and moving on towards solutions.

We so desperately need solutions now.. the cost in human lives and future possibilities is simply too steep to ignore.

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[c@lbob]

Sep. 9, 2005

Glenn Beck referred to survivors of Hurricane Katrina who remained in New Orleans as “scumbags.” Also, after acknowledging that nobody “in their right mind is going to say this out loud,” Beck attacked victims of the disaster in general and the families of victims of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, saying: “I didn’t think I could hate victims faster than the 9-11 victims.”

Jan. 10, 2006

Glenn Beck calls anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan “a pretty big prostitute.” Other candidate choices offered by Beck pitted former Hollywood madam Heidi Fleiss against Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean, Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), and suspended Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens in addition to Sheehan.

Nov. 10, 2006

Beck tells Rep.-elect Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim elected to Congress: “[Y]ou are a Democrat. You are saying, ‘Let’s cut and run.’ And I have to tell you, what I feel like saying is, ‘Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.”

Mar. 1, 2007

Talking about a naked-photo scandal at American Idol, Beck asks a female guest, Dina Sansing from “Us Weekly, to let him take nude photos of her. Sexual harassment on camera, one upping Bill O’Reilly.

May 2007

Beck’s “Exposed: The Climate of Fear” on CNN relied heavily on people with energy industry ties and others espousing positions on global warming that have been soundly debunked or rejected by the overwhelming majority of scientists studying climate change.

Jun. 21, 2007

Of a reported Al Qaeda/Taliban training camp “graduation ceremony,” Beck opines: “I was surprised, because I really thought speaking at a suicide bomber graduation ceremony, I would just — I — maybe Jimmy Carter was booked and that’s why he didn’t speak at the commencement ceremony.”

Jun. 18, 2008

Beck falsely claimed that “drilling in ANWR alone would yield 100 million barrels a day.” In fact, according to Energy Department researchers, if the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is opened for drilling for oil in 2008, the estimated peak production would yield, at most, 1.45 million barrels a day in 2028.

For more fun quotes from Glenn Beck:

http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?qstring=glenn+beck&from_date=07%2F01%2F2008&to_date=03%2F05%2F2009&issue=&subissue=&topic=&person=&show=&outlet=&itemtype=&x=34&y=14

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[Anonymous]

Good God! It’s a thread about a meet-up, people!! If you don’t agree, disagree or are uninterested, don’t go!

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