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September 14, 2012 at 6:40 pm #770683
jamminjMemberand if Rasmussen is even giving Obama a lead, you know Obama is a shoe in.
September 14, 2012 at 7:37 pm #770684
DBPMember>>Rmoney is a ridiculous tool and Obama will crush him in the debates.
>>Good riddance GOP, like many republicans have said, if romney can’t win, dismantle the repugs.
–Oh yeah! By all means. When our side wins, the opposition won’t just be defeated . . . they’ll be crippled. They’ll be CRUSHED.
We’re keeping a list. We’re gonna purge ’em. Dismantle ’em. Send ’em off to camps to be re-educated.
Then we’re gonna put some more moderate type people in there.
You know . . . MODERATE!!!!
Like us.
September 14, 2012 at 7:41 pm #770685
DBPMemberWould you people dig yourselves once in a while? Would you just DIG yourselves?
Y’all are makin’ the kootchman look like some kind of intellectual.
September 15, 2012 at 2:30 am #770686
JoBParticipantDbp
Not in this reality.
Its high time Americans got mad about the trash talking that passes for political discourse.
Somethings seriously wrong when calling bullshit on fabricated positions is considered offensive.
Should i remind you not to go too far next time you trivialize do gooder libs as being totally unaware or uncaring of the costs of the programs they promote?
A fiscally conservative liberal invests for the long term.. we actually think the american people should benefit from their buck… quaint concept.. and apparently too long term thinking for people who can’t see further than their ….
Term deleted because this is a family channel.
That’s what leaning left looks like
September 15, 2012 at 4:58 am #770687
dhgParticipantUm, i see the issue of the teleprompter has come up again. A prime example of Republicans making hay over nothing. Be patient with me Kootch, can you tell me exactly what is your problem with Obama using a teleprompter? And be sure in your essay to explain why it is wrong for Obama but fine for every other politician out there, including Mittens who is on video admitting that of course he uses one, as does Sean Hannity.
September 15, 2012 at 5:08 am #770688
kootchmanMemberI have been there and done that… yes we DID land on the beaches of Cyprus … in the middle of a war … and the State Department specifically prohibited live ammo….. yes they did! It was stashed in the AmTracs … if we had to have it… I wonder how many dead Marines before they released it! That was when I put in for discharge …. if the situtation requires US Marines… that means armed to the teeth Marines. If ya gotta call em’ you have lost the diplomatic initiative. I don’t doubt the story one bit. Oh, he can use one… when he doesn’t have one he drifts and goes off message and we get his true flavor…. “you didn’t build that”… I got news for ya jamminj … career military officers will do EXACTLY as they are told to do. I kept the headlines when the same assholes denied they refused to issue ammo to the FMF BLT Marines. They lied through their teeth. Nothing looks more like a clay pigeon than the Marines who guard the State Department facilities. When the US Ambassador arrives on a US Naval vessel.. ask any boatswain mate…. he/she get “piped” aboard and the bells rung… ” United States arriving”.. that is the pipe call for the President..only a US Ambassador gets that call..and if they say no ammo… it means no ammo.. who can you trust? that E-3 Lance Corporal…..he’ll tell ya if he was symbolic bait. not a talking head Pentagon briefing officer. Nothing more fearsome than a US Marine with an empty magazine….. been there, done that…..Semper Fi.
September 15, 2012 at 5:24 am #770689
kootchmanMemberYea DPG .. we have seen your mighty intellect at work. Prowess does not describe it. Editor in chief… ha ha ha….
September 15, 2012 at 5:45 am #770690
norquayMember…check meds
September 15, 2012 at 5:51 am #770691
JanSParticipantkootch…who is DPG?
September 15, 2012 at 5:59 am #770692
norquayMemberadjust dosage…
September 15, 2012 at 6:21 am #770693
jamminjMemberjust thought I would check in….and what…t..f…is goin…g… on with koot….ch. have…read some bu…ll.sh…it from k..ootch…but his la…st rant…sure t….ake….s the….cake. put the bong down kootch.
September 15, 2012 at 12:09 pm #770694
JoBParticipantI don’t know if anyone else noticed that at least two of the American dead were listed as ex military. Perhaps I am sensitive to this because my brother is currently doing this kind of work in the middle east but that ex likely means those guys held outsourced security jobs for the us govt.. and they definitely work armed.
Kootch.. your anger is getting in the way of your reason. Next thing you know you are going to be demanding the birth certificate that has already been supplied.
September 15, 2012 at 3:39 pm #770695
waynsterParticipantNew poles in battleground states dont look good for mitt….
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/14/politics/battleground-polls/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
September 15, 2012 at 3:44 pm #770696
dobroParticipantThe Repubs seem to be getting a bit testy. It must be frustrating to have a candidate like Mitt Romney, a human gaffe machine that, every day, says or does something that takes the conversation away from the economy, the only thing he has to run on. And in an election that was theirs to lose! (They think that anyway). I don’t think Herman Cain woulda done it this-a way.
September 16, 2012 at 3:52 pm #770697
JanSParticipantthis thread is getting a little too personal for my taste. Anyone else?
September 16, 2012 at 6:50 pm #770698
dobroParticipantWell, maybe we can get back to the topic-the sinking of the Mittanic.
Clearly his own party is having a hard time cozying up to Romney. Here’s an article detailing that…
I just don’t see how the American people can elect a guy with no plan, no solutions, just “I hate Obama” and “trust me, I’ll have a plan after the election”. does anyone remember a presidential election that was won by a guy with no agenda besides hatin’ on the other guy?
September 16, 2012 at 11:26 pm #770699
dobroParticipantI guess Mitt’s people starting to figure out that complaining about the economy isn’t going to win the election for them…
“No one in Boston thinks this can only be about the economy anymore,” one top aide said last week. “The economy narrows the gap and puts us in contention, but we have to bring more to the table.” Ryan himself has emerged as a central player in this calculation, making the case internally for a clearer conservative policy message. One high level Republican with ties to the campaign told BuzzFeed that Ryan was chaffing at Boston constraining him from talking about and defending his policy ideas from Democratic attacks. Ryan wanted to be “unleashed,” the Republican said. … And Ryan’s latest campaign swing offers the clearest indication that he’s gotten his wish. On Friday at the Values Voters Summit in Washington, D.C., Ryan offered a new gambit on offense, attacking Obama on social issues and income inequality in one fell swoop.”
They thought the rough economy was going to do it for them. When the poor jobs report came out right after the convention and failed to put a dent in Obama’s numbers they began realizing they need to bring something else to the table. Hence the confused blustering on Libya. So with 50 days to go they suddenly figure out they need to change their whole campaign focus.
Has there ever been a worse run presidential campaign in our lifetime?
September 17, 2012 at 1:05 am #770700
dobroParticipantHere’s an article from Politico detailing the Romney campaign chief of staff…
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81280.html
He seems to be the guy directing the lame campaign we’re seeing. Here’s a quote from the article…
“A growing number of conservatives are blaming Stevens for advocating a campaign of caution, one that puts all the emphasis not on how good Romney could be but how bad Obama is. “Credit for this fog goes to that inner circle of Romney advisers who never liked the Ryan pick and have reasserted their will over a candidate who is naturally cautious,” conservative columnist Kimberley Strassel wrote in Friday’s Wall Street Journal. “In the la-la land where adviser Stuart Stevens presides, Mr. Romney wins by never saying a single thing, ever, that might rock a single boat, ever.”’
I don’t think the “we can’t talk about what I’ve done and I won’t tell you what I’m going to do til after the election” ploy is going to work.
September 17, 2012 at 4:11 am #770701
WSBKeymasterThe politics discussions, especially in presidential election years (this is the second one for the Forums, which were launched in late 2007), do get fiercer than the other types of topics but that is NO excuse for personal insults to the level of the two I’ve deleted here after multiple flags. Just because it’s politics does not mean “anything goes.” Also, I remind you of the block-a-person feature – if there is anyone whose point of view does nothing but rile you up, if you can’t react to them calmly, you can click “ignore” and they’re out of your feed until and unless you go back to your profile to un-ignore them. Thanks – TR
September 17, 2012 at 5:27 am #770702
kootchmanMemberDobro
“Has there ever been a worse run presidential campaign in our lifetime?”
No. But I said it before, I will say it again. We are two polarized societies. From my perspective.. there is nothing more foul than a government run amock and unchecked. You keep insisting half the population joins a gang they don’t want to belong to. we don’t want to be bribed with money we don’t have.., we don’t want to be compelled to act out of conscience and moral beliefs for a voter bloc… , and we have seen it in action. It does not deserve the “trust” so many want to confer on it. Truly, do you think we are immune from a “break-up”? we aren’t. The world is awash in governments on their way out. We can’t tell how good Romney will be… how could we? e can infer from previous life works what he has done in the past. pretty much works for consensus and can work both sides of the aisles. We CAN tell what kind of President Obama is, and what he is likely to do. He WAS going to close Gitmo, remember? I have no doubt he got a briefing that we were harvesting Bin Laden data, I have no doubt, he got slapped in the face with political reality… NYC Democrats wanted nothing to do with a Federal trial in NYC. Who knows what other intel briefings he got? He got off that horse quick. I suspect Romney will have the same dilema.. he will get domestic and national security briefings, and being the astute business centric sorta guy he is will make decisions on reality. How bad Obama is … is the campaign. If he was a a good one.. half the country would not be against his re-election. Remember RR? You can poke holes all day long… the fact is he could govern as he did because… he received massive support from the larger population… he was on safe ground. Two landslide elections. I trust Romney. Wil he satisfy the left or the right wings of either party? No. He may get to rebuild the governing center which has been blown apart. Obama can’t do it.
September 17, 2012 at 5:39 am #770703
dobroParticipant“How bad Obama is … is the campaign.”
Exactly. And you can’t name a Presidential election in our lifetime when that was enough to unseat an incumbent. I don’t think it will be this time either.
September 17, 2012 at 1:08 pm #770704
redblackParticipantFrom my perspective.. there is nothing more foul than a government run amock and unchecked.
and from my perspective, there is nothing more foul than a free market that makes government policy.
my perspective might explain your perspective.
September 18, 2012 at 4:20 am #770705
kootchmanMemberIn a round about way I agree … a government that makes free market policy…and goes a courtin’ for it’s bed partner to corrupt the two of them.
“and from my perspective, there is nothing more foul than a free market that makes government policy”
we differ on the cause and effect … but the result is the same. The government goes a courting the free market and makes some very very stupid decisions. You going to blame the free market? what free market?
September 18, 2012 at 4:41 am #770706
redblackParticipantdude. i’m not sure why you’re so obtuse on this topic. it’s very simple.
the “free” market bought its right to vote, because we, the people, saw fit not to grant the “free market” the right to vote. you know: the whole “we’re tired of being ruled by aristocracy” thing. and the “free market” finagled its way into the consciousness of the american people, who voted in its stead after becoming its debt slaves, and the “free market” thereby lobbied a congress that works in the “free” market’s best interest. despite your protestations, the government did not solicit the free market for money, or advice, or influence. we were doing just fine without their “steady hand” on our tiller.
we even made labor a priority over capital for a while, and that allowed people like you the free time and leisure and intellect to question the wisdom of allowing a bunch of dumb hillbilly laborers to guide their own destiny without carving out a bigger chunk for their betters.
politicians? corrupted the system? maybe. probably, even. but they don’t speak for my government.
here’s a good example:
george effing romney.
here’s a guy who saw what the stock market was good for: funding american entrepeneurship and american labor.
his worthless son? willard?
sees it as an opportunity to make money without benefiting anyone else. his country be damned. he’s a self-made man and he doesn’t owe anyone anything else.
he got his. now you go out and get him some more!
go ahead and defend that. you’ll sound just like willard addressing those teabaggers and decrying the bottom 47% as worthless usurpers of american wealth. (hey, by the yea, when he-who-can’t-be-named was in the white house – 2000 through 2008 – 51% of tax filers paid no income taxes. friggin’ voodoo economics, eh?)
and when you come back to defend that, i won’t have to debate the topic anymore. (but i won’t give up my right or duty to rebut RNC lies.) your words and his speak for themselves.
September 18, 2012 at 4:55 am #770707
dobroParticipantThe MSM picking up the fund raiser video has made another bad day for Mitt, yet another day nobody’s talking about how bad Obama is. Rmoney thinks those 47% of Americans who don’t pay federal income taxes are irresponsible freeloaders. All the more reason to show us your tax returns, Mitt. Are you hiding the fact that you are one of the 47%?
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