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January 30, 2011 at 10:39 pm #715131
miwsParticipantSo, if that resolution were to pass, what would happen if a U.S. born child of illegal immigrants is suddenly made an orphan, due to their parents’ deaths.
Now age of the child would be immaterial, but let’s just say the kid was around 8 years old. Old enough to have a sense of belonging in a community, and to have established relatively long time relationships with other children, and even other adults.
So, now the kid’s parents are, sadly, both killed in a car accident, and that’s how ICE finds out the kid is an “illegal”?
What’re they gonna do?
Deport his ass to a Country in which he’s never been, knows nobody, and even if they can locate some relatives that might take him in, what happens if their is nobody to take him?
Mike
February 5, 2011 at 4:39 pm #715132
HMC RichParticipantMike your post reminds me of Elian Gonzalez. Although the circumstances are a bit different.
JoB, you know our ancestors who immigrated here came to this country legally becauase they followed a process. Not all were let in just because they wanted to be here. Many were turned away. The majority followed a process which was needed. Various changes came about with different legislation. Central and South American migration expanded after The 1965 Immigration Act. There were limits on Visa applications but none of the FAMILY REUNIFICATION part of the act which let in the extended family.
It is time to fix our immigration policy. If anything this brings up an issue which the federal government has screwed up since the 80’s if not the 60’s.
A thorough guest worker program needs to be put in place. When I was in Central America I spoke to many people who liked and did come into the US to make money and send or bring it back home.
You know, we wouldn’t need “Sanctuary Cities” if the the government’s policy was working. It isn’t.
Here is a link which promotes an open door policy because migrant workers do help our country. We just need a better plan. http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2006/03/the-real-problem-with-immigration-and-the-real-solution
The article is from 2006 and the economy has changed but I support most of the points.
Referring to the last post from Mike. As it stands now, if a person is born in the US they are a citizen. If the government could get the policy correct, the scenario above would not come into play. And who would want it to?
This thread is off topic now. If you want start an immigration thread then lets start another one.
February 6, 2011 at 6:23 am #715133
JoBParticipantHMCRich…
actually.. i don’t know that our ancestors all entered this country legally…
i recently did some geneological work on my family and on hubby’s family…
surprisingly enough in spite of being able to trace one branch of my mother’s family back to the founding colonies… i found ancestors greatgrandparents) on both sides of both of our families for whom there is no record of legal immigration…
that would make them.. gasp.. illegals.
They likely crossed the border from Canada to work in the mines or lumber camps in Minnesota and Wisconsin since I can find record of them arriving and living in Canada before they show up on the US census in those areas.
while researching, i found that i was not alone in that discovery. It’s seems there are many of us who can’t find the legal paperwork for great – grandparents and great-great-grandparents… although naturalization papers often show up for their older children… the younger kids mostly have US birth certificates.
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones…
being Caucasian doesn’t guarantee that your ancestors were legal immigrants.
February 9, 2011 at 8:11 am #715134
HMC RichParticipantYou should be deported immediately with just about everyone else who lives here in the US. I get the aisle seat.
And Jo, I do understand not all entered “legally”.
Fine. I will reword it. Many Americans have ancestors who came to this country and went through the proper steps to become citizens of the United States of America. Some did not and others were forced.
I also had the same issue in tracing the Wisconsin family (1800’s) compared to the Massachusetts/Virginia (1600’s) family. The information for the German ancestors was very difficult to find, but finally there was some out there.
My point was…. There needs to be a better immigration policy. A good guest worker policy and efficient government agency to take care of the people who are skirting the system.
February 9, 2011 at 4:20 pm #715135
JoBParticipantHMC Rich…
you miss the point.
Those grandparents and great-grandparents and great-great-grandparents who crossed the border without paperwork didn’t take the steps to become naturalized citizens…
some of their older kids did..
but mostly they didn’t.
Many of them did serve in the military though
without benefit of the legalities of becoming a citizen…
they were illegals
even if we are descended from them
just like the illegals who live and work and raise their children here now.
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