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January 17, 2008 at 9:09 pm #586265
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January 17, 2008 at 10:21 pm #613991
JimmyGMemberWhy would you be happy you got this guy fired?
No child has ever been permanently scarred by hearing curse words, and it’s not a crime to swear. It may be poor taste and bad manners, but it’s not worth a person losing their job over.
Especially since no children were around at the time. How do you know he would have kept swearing when the kids were out for recess? You don’t.
He may have deserved a discussion with his supervisor over appropriate vs inappropriate behaviour, but to be fired for it? I think not.
I certainly don’t share your feeling of being happy or proud over getting him fired.
Kids are going to hear swearing at some point in their life, everytime they do are you going to try to get the person fired?
January 17, 2008 at 10:30 pm #613992
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January 17, 2008 at 10:32 pm #613993
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January 17, 2008 at 10:34 pm #613994
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January 17, 2008 at 10:40 pm #613995
JimmyGMemberYou missed my point. It IS a big deal this guy got fired, a big over-reaction.
Can you post a link to some studies that prove there is permanent damage to kids from merely hearing curse words?
Bottom line: Karma can be a b*>ch.
January 17, 2008 at 10:42 pm #613996
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January 17, 2008 at 10:43 pm #613997
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January 17, 2008 at 10:59 pm #613998
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January 17, 2008 at 11:01 pm #613999
JanSParticipantI am not going to take sides here…but…maybe there’s something going on in this guy’s personal life that was affecting him? In his marriage? In his kid’s lives? If he has kids, imagine not being able to support them now? Swear words happen…if you don’t like them, then you complain. That’s your choice and your right.Whoever his boss was on this job should have been contacted first(actually, he should have been on top of it before you were ever involved)…did you think about that? There must have been a supervisor there. They could have nipped it in the bud right then, and not sent this man into the unemployment world. This is not a perfect world, and some of the people that your children run into will undoubtably do things that affect them one way or another. How you raise them in your home makes the difference.
Denigrating another person on here because they disagree with you isn’t exactly good form. We all have our opinions…that’s what makes this forum so great. I saw no anger in JimmyG’s disagreement with what you did….just another way of looking at things….no need to call him a jerk…
January 17, 2008 at 11:09 pm #614000
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January 17, 2008 at 11:16 pm #614001
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January 17, 2008 at 11:21 pm #614002
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January 17, 2008 at 11:25 pm #614003
KenParticipantI will take sides.
The idea that language harms children is ludicrous but widespread. It is however impolite.
Those using foul language therefore take their chances on the job. Too bad the worker had to run into you today. His bad luck.
But I feel the holier than thou attitude will harm children exposed to it more in the long run that overhearing a bit of colorful prose.
Do you also attempt to get books removed from the library using the same criteria? Music from music stores?
I am so glad we have people like you always willing to teach people a lesson.
I know I learned one today.
January 17, 2008 at 11:26 pm #614004
hlywdsmMemberI personaly think lattemom needs to mind her own business. No kids were around right? Your a grown adult right? Why don’t you try minding your own and live and let live. Now this jobless guy is gonna rob your house so he can feed his filthy mouth kids…good going!
January 17, 2008 at 11:50 pm #614005
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January 18, 2008 at 12:01 am #614006
WesMemberI wonder if anyone knows how swearing does not affect kids?
January 18, 2008 at 12:06 am #614007
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January 18, 2008 at 12:15 am #614008
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January 18, 2008 at 2:07 am #614009
ErikParticipantWes –
In short, swearing or any other anti-social behaviour that children witness from adults (other than their parents or those they reside with) don’t necessarily have a detrimental affect on them. It all falls back on the limbic relationships the child forms while in their first 5 years of growth. The most important teachers of course are their parents. If the parents do a good job of providing a safe place for the child to explore and nurture their organic learning then they’ll have a strong basis to deal with the outside world. Usually better than the adults they are with, because they’re still in a learning mode. Children are quite adaptable to their environments, just ask all the kids from war-torn areas of the world. As long as they have strong family relationships they’ll learn how to deal with the world as a whole. Adults on the other hand for the most part stopped learning a long time ago and base most of their actions/reactions on the child they once were.
Listening to types of music or reading certain books aren’t going to turn a person into a decadent, killing, swearing machine unless they were already headed that way…again this falls back on the lack of a solid limbic relationship while growing up.
As for the guy learning something, he may have, but I doubt it’s what you wish him to learn. He most likely reverted back to a childhood memory of when he was first chastised for doing wrong and became attuned to his feeling of not being accepted.
As far as changing habits goes, the most efficient means is through observation of one’s movement when you are doing the behaviour (not by thinking). I know this is contrary to what most people think and spout. The reason trying to change one’s thinking is so hard is that you can’t easily measure change in it.
Before you feel compelled to respond I ask that you notice what happens to your breathing or where you feel the tension building. As humans we have the ability to act, to observe the act, and to refine the action. This is also called maturity.
January 18, 2008 at 2:18 am #614010
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January 18, 2008 at 2:19 am #614011
KayleighMemberOMG, if I’d gotten fired every time I swore at work, I’d have been unemployed 100 times. I could care less when other people swear and I swear when I feel like it.
There weren’t any kids around,and even if there were, is it so hard to talk to your kid if she hears bad words? Say something like, ‘That guy is probably having a very bad day….I don’t like the way he’s talking…we try to find nicer words to express ourselves, don’t we?’
January 18, 2008 at 2:22 am #614012
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January 18, 2008 at 2:37 am #614013
WesMemberSo Eric, am I correct in saying that you are of the belief that music and books (just as examples) do not affect people’s behavior or how they percieve things?
January 18, 2008 at 2:48 am #614014
TheVelvetBulldogMemberInteresting. I work in an architectural firm and in our kitchen someone hung an article written about a study that determined “swearing in the workplace” may increase camaraderie. When my honorary nephew was 2.5 or 3 years old, he picked up the word “dammit” somewhere. (Gawd, probably from me…) He’d fall on his butt or something and say “dammit” very seriously. We all explained that that wasn’t a nice word to use, etc. etc. and then go into another room and howl with laughter. Because really, it was funny. He doesn’t say “dammit” anymore though – now he says “oh bother.” Kids deal. Part of me wonders if the construction worker was venting his anger verbally and on a bucket rather than taking it out on a fellow co-worker, which would certainly have been worse.
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