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March 10, 2011 at 5:15 am #719858
JoBParticipantsmitty…
republicans… party of the working man?
in what universe?
tell me one single piece of legislation anywhere sponsored by republicans in the last 6 months that actually benefits working people and i will gladly buy you lunch.
btw… i will only buy you lunch for something that actually does benefit working people.. not for something that benefits the wealthy or big corporation but is labeled as benefiting working people.
and the republican in opposition to their party doesn’t count either.
I am willing to spring for a pretty nice lunch if you can pull a victory on this.
in the meantime
left of far right is not center.
but those standards do end up with anything in the center labeled left.. or even far left.
of course, republicans label themselves the party of the working class too.. so there you go.
March 10, 2011 at 7:00 am #719859
metrognomeParticipantredblack — sorry about the monitor; when you buy a new one, spring for a waterproof cover. And a waterproof keyboard.
Actually, I’m not sure that NPR and PBS should receive government money through the Corp. for Public Broadcasting anymore. It may have made sense in the earlier days of broadcast TV when there were only 3 channels, but with the advent of cable and the Internet, I don’t think supporting them is an essential government function. Actually, I think that applies to a lot of things tax dollars are spent on, but that is a whole ‘nother thread.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_for_Public_Broadcasting
Smitty — haven’t conservatives used ‘East Coast elite’ as a derogatory term to refer to Gore, Kerry, et al in comparison to George W. Bush, that famous Texan who went to elite East Coast schools and pretended to be a man of the people by buying a ‘cattle ranch’ a year before the election and selling it immediately after he left office … and never having enough cattle to meet the Texas Cattleman’s Ass’n’s definition of a ‘cattle ranch’? And what about the term ‘Hollywood elite’ that they never applied to Ronald Reagan, Chuck ‘Pry It From My Cold, Dead Fingers’ Heston, Sonny Bono, AH-nold and Fred Grandy, aka Gopher from the Love Boat … Smitty, you make it too easy.
March 10, 2011 at 8:10 am #719860
HMC RichParticipantRedBlack, Your Avatar is awesome. I loved Samurai Jack.
It’s been a very, very bad day for supporters who identify with the left. Take two aspirin and some melatonin (N-acetyl-5-methoxytryptamine) and sleep on it.
Tomorrow you can lace up the boxing gloves and start swinging in earnest.
March 10, 2011 at 8:41 am #719861
dobroParticipantNot such a bad day really. It looks like the creep Walker may have pushed too far by removing the union busting language from the budget bill and put it in a standalone bill that the Repub senate passed. Clearly the measure has nothing to do with the budget since the unions already agreed to his cuts and by putting it in a separate bill he’s basically announcing that this is war on unions.
The people have already re-occupied the Capitol and I’m sure we’ll see the largest demonstration yet this weekend, if not tomorrow.Probably won’t hear much more about the NPR non-story (except on Fox)but keep your ears open for the Wisconsonites yelling “Our House”.
March 10, 2011 at 9:22 am #719862
HMC RichParticipantYou may be right. At least the missing Democrat Senators will probably be found. They will be safe. I am not so certain about the Republican Senators who voted last night.
It never really was about the budget in my opinion. The unions gave in on the “employee perks”. This was about “Power” for both sides.
March 10, 2011 at 9:29 am #719863
dobroParticipantCheck your facts. The unions gave in on salary, pension funding, and benefits, not “perks”. It is most assuredly about power for both sides- the conspiracy of Repub governors to destroy any power that unions have (which they’ve already accomplished in the Southern states) and the struggle for working people to keep the power they’ve fought and died for.
March 10, 2011 at 9:39 am #719864
HMC RichParticipantBad choice of words on my part. I stand corrected. But yes, Power,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwxiRXqH_hQ from the NEA
March 10, 2011 at 3:10 pm #719865
redblackParticipantsmitty: as i drifted off last night, i was pondering the media, and the words bipartisan and non-partisan. as i’ve said before, i think c-span is a good neutral non-partisan model for news and politics: a privately-funded non-profit.
imho, it’s what NPR should be.
having said that, NPR doesn’t rely solely on taxpayer money, although it helps them a great deal and it guarantees they have a slot in nearly every market in the u.s. unfair to competitors? maybe. then again, the media is owned by only a handful of companies, and NPR is “owned” more by private donors than it is by taxpayers.
i.e. they could probably survive without public money, but they would definitely get pushed out of a bunch of radio markets if they didn’t have the government at their backs. even liberal seattle has horrible media consolidation.
March 10, 2011 at 5:42 pm #719866
JoBParticipantredblack…
what federal money does for NPR is subsidize stations in small markets that don’t have private investor funding…
and frankly. those are the markets that need their local NPR stations the most.
March 10, 2011 at 5:47 pm #719867
JoBParticipantHMCRich…
when a leopard shows it’s spots…
is that a bad day for it’s unwary victims?
i don’t think so.
In fact.. i feel public unrest brewing..
and not just in Wisconsin…
if not for gov Walker and his display of bully power..
i suspect the Senate Democrats would have been negotiating today on the Republican House budget cuts instead of telling them to take a long hike off a short pier and get real.
Gov Walker really needed to take a gun safety course before he pulled out his big gun.
He shot himself and republicans everywhere in the foot.
republicans would do well to read their own public opinion polls.
you can push Americans too far.
March 10, 2011 at 6:17 pm #719868
dobroParticipantThat’s exactly what these scum are trying to do-push people to the point of violence and then say “see,look at these violent union thugs”. It’s not a mistake, it’s a plan. Walker doesn’t care about his political career either. There’s a payoff waiting for him down the line.
March 10, 2011 at 6:31 pm #719869
JoBParticipantdobro…
to some extent i think you are right
but they misfired when they embraced the more radical elements in the tea bag movement…
i suspect many of those who would be advocating violence within leftist movements have joined the tea baggers … the ultimate irony :)
Although there will be some radicalization as a result of all of this…
there are also literally millions of us pulling out our pocketbooks to fund recall efforts and to put taxpayer and worker advocate advertisements on the air…
We don’t have to over-react to act.
March 12, 2011 at 2:01 am #719870
JoBParticipantMarch 12, 2011 at 11:07 pm #719871
dobroParticipantTo circle all the way back to the initial post, check this out.Even Glenn Beck says O’Keefe is a lying sack!!
March 13, 2011 at 12:23 am #719872
JoBParticipantMarch 13, 2011 at 12:43 am #719873
dobroParticipantThey were closed for maintinence for awhile. I just looked and the link worked again.
The Beck site details how O’Keefe edited the video and shows the raw footage so you can see how the words the guy Schiller spoke had nothing to do with the meaning that O’Keefe created with his edits. These lying right wingers are absolute scum.
On the other hand, The Walker admin. admitted that the call he got and his response were real and we heard the entire unedited call.
See the difference, Smitty?
March 13, 2011 at 5:18 pm #719874
JoBParticipantSmitty…
for you.. i have linked to Glenn Beck’s website..
the Blaze…
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/does-raw-video-of-npr-expose-reveal-questionable-editing-tactics/
who have amazingly done what no other media source has done…
reviewed the original footage…
likely because no other media outlet has had access to the raw tapes…
after seeing this the question is…
who got punked?
the executives at NPR?
or those who bought a very clever editing job?
as political hatchet jobs go this one was less than stellar…
yet it may still bring down federal funding for NPR which far from silencing NPR will only cut off funding for small local stations….
it’s the republican way you know…
spread the pain of paying for the bailout to those who can afford it least while handing out federal money right and left to their fat cat friends.
and just for the record.. even after watching more of the tape…
i still think Ron Schiller is a tool…
but it is very clear in the unedited tape shown that he does not represent NPR.
I am still waiting for the national coverage this debunking deserves… even if it did originate on Glenn Beck’s website.
Dobro.. thanks for the link. most informative.
March 13, 2011 at 6:13 pm #719875
charlabobParticipantI heard NPR whining, ‘er, covering this story this morning. To be fair, it’s hard to cover stories about yourself. BUT their groveling “Mea Culpas” even though they were set up dishonestly (the main difference between this “sting” and the sting of Walker/Koch brothers — though I realize truth isn’t really relevant any more).
Takeaways:
The left (which NPR is not) is so gutless that even their enemies take pity and defend them.
Perhaps NPR is too old to be saved. Maybe Democracy now and other truly progressive media need my $ more.
March 13, 2011 at 8:37 pm #719876
JoBParticipantcharlabob…
the problem with democracy now and other truly progressive media is that they don’t have a mechanism in place for reaching small rural or poor communities where people get more of their information from public radio and local broadcasting…
and those are the outlets that depend on public money to survive.
NPR is the only midline viewpoint that reaches those audiences.
That said.. the progressive media outlets get the lions share of our public broadcasting money these days because they are covering the news from a progressive viewpoint… which no longer happens at NPR.
I too am disgusted with the mea culpa at NPR when the facts just plain don’t validate a left bias at all…
but i am equally disgusted with the mea culpa appeasement dance we all seem to have adopted in reaction to the right wing slime machine.
I agree with you. The time for appeasement is long past.
This beast is voracious and if we don’t band together to fight it with every weapon at our disposal it will finish off our way of life without so much as a satisfactory burp.
March 14, 2011 at 3:12 am #719877
metrognomeParticipantgeez, this creative editing tactic is nothing new — Jay Leno does it all the time.
March 14, 2011 at 6:13 pm #719878
JoBParticipantmetrognome…
as a joke..
Jay Leno does it as a joke.
somehow getting someone fired
and inflaming the public to cut funding from small local stations
is not so funny
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