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March 9, 2011 at 2:43 pm #598241
SmittyParticipantSo, what comes around, goes around. The Governor Walker prank story lasted weeks. How much play will this get?
Sound like Schiller lost her job (CEO) at least.
Talking to who they thought were representatives of the muslim brotherhood they spoke of:
>Racist Republicans
>Racist and stupid tea partiers
>The Zionist controlled media
Fair & Balanced……..
March 9, 2011 at 5:02 pm #719834
JoBParticipantSmitty…
“Fair and Balanced”
haven’t you got the wrong network’s slogan here?
Yup, they got punked…
and in typically stupid fashion heads will roll and denyability will thunder
and they will learn nothing.
but you have to ask yourself.. just how much of what was said was true in context… not in the edited video produced by those intent on taking down any organization that does not repeat the conservative party con job.
Your glee gets the better of you.
March 9, 2011 at 5:13 pm #719835
dhgParticipantSo maybe Schiller will get the same treatment as rascist Juan Williams and find herself employed by Fox New?
March 9, 2011 at 5:26 pm #719836
JanSParticipantremember….although Ms. Schiller has resigned, it wasn’t her who made the statements. Ron Schiller made them. He is the head of fundraising. It’s a shame that one man can say something, and, of course, that must mean that they all are guilty. Ms. Schiller is taking one for him…and he is going to lose his job, too, as he should. But was he really speaking for NPR? NO…he was speaking for himself. He voiced what a lot of people think, and that’s unfortunate.
But, really, folks, what about the dishonest people who posed as the Muslims…Mr. OKeefe is a real piece of work. One can only hope that they succumb to the same treatment at some point.
March 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm #719837
SmittyParticipant“But, really, folks, what about the dishonest people who posed as the Muslims…Mr. OKeefe is a real piece of work. One can only hope that they succumb to the same treatment at some point.”
Can we assume you feel the same way about the fella who punked Walker?
March 9, 2011 at 5:45 pm #719838
JoBParticipantJanS..
Ron Schiller was the head of fundraising..
he is now employed by the Aspen institute…
at least…
until they get punked too…
Ron Schiller is a fundraiser
and fundraisers say what they think will raise funds.
But was Mr OKeefe after Ron Schiller?
No…
Mr OKeefe was out for NPRs blood…
and.. no matter how Smitty might like to portray this
there’s a reason they call this being punked..
that’s because it’s not investigative journalism…
but one thing is true…
lots of people are stupid enough to buy this con job.
March 9, 2011 at 8:13 pm #719839
SmittyParticipant“and.. no matter how Smitty might like to portray this
there’s a reason they call this being punked..”
I called it “punked” in the original post. It is exactly that.
My question to Jan (and now you) is do you feel the same about the Walker/Koch “punking” that made so much news?
March 9, 2011 at 8:26 pm #719840
HMC RichParticipantHa Ha Ha Ha Ha, This is funny.
Hey Smitty. Both sides get punkd but it is still the right wing’s fault for both of them.
HA HA HA HA. Too Good.
March 9, 2011 at 8:38 pm #719841
JanSParticipantWhen you’re in the positions that these people are in, be it the person who fundraises for NPR, or Gov. WAlker..know who you’re talking to, and know that you will be quoted. You and I can think, and sometimes say, whatever we feel as long as it doesn’t truly hurt anyone (and some don’t even care about that). People in the spotlight, esp. people like Gov. Walker, and those that head things like NPR have to be very careful who they are talking to. I would like it to not happen on either side. Let’s all just be honest and upfront, and see where it gets us. Those “gotcha” moments give you great glee when it’s on folks on the left, Smitty..but everyone else is supposed to feel bad and be embarrassed? I’m often embarrassed because people feel that they have to do these things in order to “win”. When it comes down to it, it’s wrong on both sides.
March 9, 2011 at 8:40 pm #719842
maplesyrupParticipantSeems to me Ron Schiller was trying way too hard to curry favor with these impostors and he got busted.
Neither this nor the Walker thing is really surprising. Politicians and fundraisers are essentially sales people and unfortunately a lot of salespeople feel the need to act this way to accomplish their goals.
March 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm #719843
JanSParticipantmaplesyrup…agreed…
wouldn’t it be nice if no one had to play those games….on either side?
March 9, 2011 at 8:55 pm #719844
metrognomeParticipantspecious logic, JoB — using the excuse that Schiller is a fundraiser, so he can say whatever he needs to say to procure money?? Isn’t that the same excuse a pimp or drug dealer would use? You would not accept that kind of logic from Smitty. You can’t claim the same moral high ground you denied someone else. News flash — liberals are humans too and therefore are capable of being hypocrites.
The only difference here is that Ms. Schiller had the integrity to accept responsibility and resign; Gov. Walker didn’t. And, despite Mr. Schiller’s apology and claim that his comments don’t reflect who he is and what he believes, I think he believes exactly what he said. Also, he no longer is being hired by the Aspen Institute.
I do agree that O’Keefe is a piece of work. He is what I call an Old Testament ‘smite thine enemies’ Xtian, not a New Testament WWJD Xtian. He believe he is in a holy war and that justifies anything he does, even if most folks would consider that action contrary to what a ‘good’ (i.e. New Testament) Xtian would do.
March 9, 2011 at 9:53 pm #719845
JoBParticipantSmitty…
i know you think you hold the high road on this one… but hear me out.
the punking of Gov Walker was used to illuminate the motives of a person.. Governor Walker… who had responsibility for the decisions and attitudes displayed.
the punking of the voter registration group whose name i can’t remember, planned parenthood and NPR punked an individual that was not responsible for the policy or actions of an institution and then claimed they represented that institution.
Would i object to this group punking Ron Schiller and holding him responsible for his words?
nope.. i think the man portrayed himself accurately. I am glad to see that he left NPR.
But I do object to the punking of Ron Schiller being used to force the resignation of the head of NPR.
There is a difference.
it’s part of that personal responsibility thing that republicans seem to have such difficulty defining.
March 9, 2011 at 9:56 pm #719846
dobroParticipantMore false equivalence from the wingnutters. Here’s the difference wingsters…
Scott Walker- elected official, responsible to the people of his state, has a hidden agenda exposed by a prank phone call. He wasn’t “punked” he was exposed as a bought and paid for shill for right wing extremists and this info was shared with his constituents who have a right to know what kind of payoffs this creep is getting and whose interests he’s really representing.
Ron Schiller-fund raising shill for a corporation who said some stupid sh*t and got hung out to dry for it. This guy was actually punk’d.
See, its exactly the same, riiiight? I don’t think so wingers. Try again.
March 9, 2011 at 9:58 pm #719847
JoBParticipantmetrognome..
my intention wasn’t to excuse Ron Schiller.
I thought i was just calling this creature by it’s spots.
I lost respect for Ron Schiller long before this fiasco.
What i have a problem with is that Ron Schiller didn’t take the fall for his lack of discretion.. Ms Schiller did… and i don’t see that as a noble thing.
“Also, he no longer is being hired by the Aspen Institute.”
delighted to hear it…
but Ms Schiller still took his fall at NPR…
and i think this falling on the sword thing at the beck and call of punkers has gotten way out of hand.
it’s not as though it is going to save the witch hunt this organization is going through. If they didn’t learn anything else from the similar situation at planned parenthood.. they should have learned that.
Governor Walker on the other hand was solely responsible for his words.
March 9, 2011 at 10:45 pm #719848
WesCAddleMemberPosted By Smitty:
“So, what comes around, goes around. The Governor Walker prank story lasted weeks. How much play will this get?
Sound like Schiller lost her job (CEO) at least.
Talking to who they thought were representatives of the muslim brotherhood they spoke of:
>Racist Republicans
>Racist and stupid tea partiers
>The Zionist controlled media
Fair & Balanced……..”
Fair and balanced would be if that tool Walker lost his job.
March 9, 2011 at 10:58 pm #719849
JoBParticipantWesCAddle…
:) yes, it would.
but they can’t recall him for 2 years:(
there is a move to recall 6 of his cronies in the senate who barely got elected in their last elections though..
i sent money.
March 9, 2011 at 11:14 pm #719850
metrognomeParticipantJoB — thanks for the clarification. I don’t necessarily think that Ms. Schiller should have fallen on her sword for Mr. Schiller’s error, but I think she was still feeling the heat from the Juan Williams episode and decided to sacrifice herself in an attempt to save NPR.
And I agree with WesCaddle that an elected official being caught selling his state to the highest bidder is a *little* more egregious than what Mr. Schiller did. The good news is that polls of WI voters are showing that Walker overestimated his ‘mandate’ and is rapidly losing support.
And, an interesting point my sister made last night — the attempts around the country to deunionize public employees have focused on teachers’ unions … which are primarily women. Police and firefighters unions seem to be exempt from this effort … and they are primarily men.
So, Smitty, tell you what … I’ll support defunding NPR and PBS if you support defunding faith-based initiatives. I mean, we are really talking about Christian-based initiatives, aren’t we??
March 10, 2011 at 4:26 am #719851
redblackParticipantmg: *splorf*
you owe me a new monitor. (i just laughed beer all over mine.)
however, that’s a dangerous wager. and they’ll probably take you up on it.
March 10, 2011 at 4:36 am #719852
SmittyParticipant“So, Smitty, tell you what … I’ll support defunding NPR and PBS if you support defunding faith-based initiatives. I mean, we are really talking about Christian-based initiatives, aren’t we??”
Did I mention de-funding? NPR makes me splorf, why would I want that?
March 10, 2011 at 4:41 am #719853
redblackParticipantsmitty: do you support taxpayers funding public television and radio via CPB?
honest question. no mallet in either hand. i swear.
March 10, 2011 at 5:01 am #719854
SmittyParticipantYes, even though they are extremely leftist. Left, Right and Center is my all-time fav. On the media is a close second.
I just like it when the elitists get caught spewing their propaganda. They weave it into their reporting, and think we don’t notice.
You know, there was a time when Republicans we considered the intellectual elites, Democrats were the party of labor, blue collar and minorities. Somewhere over the last 20 years that was flipped by the media, and it drives me crazy!
March 10, 2011 at 5:08 am #719855
redblackParticipantsmitty: while revealing, your response didn’t really answer my question.
but i am somewhat intrigued by your assertion that media has reinvented republicans as the party of “labor, blue collar and minorities.”
it also baffles me how anyone can consider the mainstream (non-CPB-funded) media as anything but corporate.
[edit: but i guess NPR’s recent behavior could support accusations of partisanship – and i don’t disagree.]
March 10, 2011 at 5:14 am #719856
redblackParticipantsmitty: i don’t know how to correct this without causing confusion, but i saw a comma where you posted a period. in fairness, you did answer my question.
my apologies. it’s been a long day, and with that i bid you all a good night.
March 10, 2011 at 5:15 am #719857
SmittyParticipantNo worries, I confuse myself at times! Have a good night.
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