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July 24, 2012 at 8:41 am #604104
kootchmanMember112 fundraisers since he announced “officially”…. not one meeting with his blue ribbon, appointed with great ceremony at the White House….. Jobs Council. Back to Hunts Point … to scoop up some cash and then dash. 32K per couple to dine with the Prez. Glad you are feeling our pain. JoB send him an invitation to dine in style at the bottom of the hill. C’mon dude.. at least meet once with your Jobs Council…. or maybe like the Simpson Bowles Commission.. ANOTHER big fanfare commission… they told him the truth.. and that ended that.
July 24, 2012 at 9:19 am #764877
TrickParticipantWell Barack is fundraising, so be it.
Maybe Mitt will swing by Switzerland and Bermuda on his way back from Poland and Israel, stop and get a little spending change at his secret ATM’s, if he could only remember his PIN that was retroactively expired?
Who needs contributors when you have unlimited, tax free funds sitting offshore?
God Bless AMer……Switzerland, yeah!!!
July 24, 2012 at 9:24 am #764878
JanSParticipantTrick…have I told you lately…..?
July 24, 2012 at 9:27 am #764879
TrickParticipantJust did….:)
July 24, 2012 at 1:54 pm #764880
JanSParticipantSo, kootch..are you saying pyou are against any incumbent fundraising? Or just Obama
July 24, 2012 at 1:55 pm #764881
JanSParticipant(Waves from Swedish)
July 24, 2012 at 2:14 pm #764882
JVMemberNo Jan, obviously he can campaign and raise money…that’s all he is good at.
It would just be nice if he made some sort of febile attempt at doing his job too. You know, between rounds of golf, vacations, making people pass out, and $35k per plate dinners.
On the other hand, when he’s out playing, at least he’s not fu@king anything else up.
July 24, 2012 at 2:30 pm #764883
JoBParticipantkootch…
you applaud the superpacs that force him to raise cash and then blame him for raising cash…
how very… typical of you
at least he’s not just off relaxing or drying out at the ranch like shrub did…
July 24, 2012 at 2:33 pm #764884
JoBParticipantJV..
i beg to differ..
Obama can raise cash and speak coherently at the same time
while running what ship of state there is to run with the Republicans strangling any progress
it appears Romney is the one who is good at raising cash
and not so good at formulating answers that contain actual content
July 24, 2012 at 2:43 pm #764885
JanSParticipantJV..so, we’re then to assume that you are privy to Obama’s daily schedule, that you have proof that he has abdicated as president, and that you feel that a sitting president has no private life, and not allowed to have family time? What was that? Ohhh..that only applies to Obama, you say. Glad you cleared that up…thanks..
July 24, 2012 at 3:37 pm #764886
JVMemberJanS, if he wanted to work on the economy, he would meet with his Jobs council, or other adults who could help him with big boy decisions.
If we wanted help say, trying or organize a community, then he might be useful. Running an economy? Not so much.
Obviously he cares less about the average American’s finances than he does his fund raising.
JoB, you played the “it’s the republicans’ fault” and the “Shrub” card…you just need to play the race card to complete your excuse-trifecta!
July 24, 2012 at 3:48 pm #764887
JoBParticipantJV
it really is too bad that you don’t know the difference between reasons and excuses.
you applaud the contingent in our congress who are effectively blocking new jobs programs and denying funding for current ones..
stating that America has to feel the pain..
while simultaneously blaming Obama for not spending more time in the White House in meetings for goals you don’t want him to achieve.
is your head spinning?
the point is that this like so many other Obama attacks is rife with a double standard.
raising money is good when Republicans do it.
protecting the identities of his anonymous superpac donors is good when the Republicans do it
and every president needs some time off when a republican president takes time off..
but democrats should be held to a higher standard.
i would think more of your comments if you actually held your own side to even a fraction of the standards you set for the other.
but.. you don’t. do you?
July 24, 2012 at 3:52 pm #764888
JoBParticipantbtw JV
are you familiar with that new fangled technology called teleconferencing?
did you know that every president is now provided with that technology
i am betting that Obama works harder on the nation’s business even on the campaign trail than you do at our day job…
get a grip..
and find something real to discuss.
please, pretty please.
July 24, 2012 at 4:58 pm #764889
JVMemberJoB, when Romney is out raising money, he is not using Air Force One spending our money. He has secret service protection, but not a 50 car entourage and security detail. All that costs the tax payer (most of whom aren’t obama voters anyway) more than Obama is pocketing at his $30k per plate fund raisers.
When Republicans do stupid stuff it pisses me off too, and I call them on it. Like Bush golfing. Or Romney on the back of a sea doo a few weeks ago. It’s just unnecessary, and it looks bad, especially when the country is terrible and Americans are in such bad shape right now…so don’t do it. I don’t defend it, and you shouldn’t either.
July 24, 2012 at 5:05 pm #764890
JVMemberAlso JoB
blaming Obama for not spending more time in the White House in meetings for goals you don’t want him to achieve.
I’m not sure we are clear what his goals are. Do you think he wants prosperity, or do you think he wants fairness? (Equal opportunity or equal results might be a better way to put it.)
Does he want a stronger economy, or does he want more people dependent on the government?
Does he want to improve America, or does he want to “fundamentally change” America?
If he wants to lower unemployment, I’m all for it, depending on HOW he wants to do it. The unemployment rate could drop to 5% tomorrow by paying people do dig ditches, then paying other people to fill in the ditches. (not to give him any ideas) But that isn’t a smart way to do it. Nor is handing out money to worthless, bankrupt companies with a terrible business plan, just to pacify his Green lobby.
Teleconferencing: if he was teleconferencing, I’m sure his press secretary would have said, “no they haven’t met in the past 6 months, but they have monthly teleconferences…” then this wouldn’t be an issue would it JoB? We WOULD be discussing something else. Something REAL…like eviilll BAIN Capital!!
July 25, 2012 at 12:13 am #764891
kootchmanMemberHis Jobs Council was loaded private businesses. He didn’t understand the language or the concept. Axelrod couldn’t explain it to him, so he dumped em. He wants dependency, convinced it is expansionary. And it brings in the votes. Even a mangy cur is loyal to the holder of the dog biscuit ..untik it gets a better offer.. If he had a record… he wouldn’t need to “jet for dollars”… who ever thought we would buy AF-1 to be a fund raiser? Now.. let’s not go too far off here… Obama spend 78 million last month… Romney about 37 million. Obama has 700 full time paid campaign staff.. Romney has 300… he campaigns like he governs, wastefully and excessively. Maybe Romney went to Poland to reassure them… if he is elected, he will stand by them … not be more “flexible” with Putin after he is elected. Maybe to reassure Isreal, yes we are steadfast in our support. (Sure plays well in Florida!) Oh you are missing half the air fleet that goes with AF-!.. all the planes to carry those limos too! If Mitt does stop in Switzerland… at least he is withdrawing HIS money.. not ours.
July 25, 2012 at 12:25 am #764892
kootchmanMemberNo Jan “some” fund raising.. that’s all he does. He could try and get some from the Congressional Campaign Fund… but 1/3 of his own party hasn’t paid their dues and over half have only partially paid. The republican… everyone paid their share within the first week. His own party members don’t think he’s worth the investment. C’mon Hussein.. work your congressional delegates.. it’s close to home, costs less.
!/3 of the Democratic Campaign Caucus have not paid their dues… Nancy Pelosi is taking their pictures off the wall… awwww and telling them they can’t come to the National Convention.
“Democrats say they’ve tried just about everything to get their colleagues to open their wallets. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has told members that unless they pay their dues in full, they won’t get to partake in the committee’s Democratic National Convention package, complete with access to much sought-after hotel rooms and parties
July 25, 2012 at 12:55 am #764893
kootchmanMemberJoBism
“you applaud the superpacs that force him to raise cash and then blame him for raising cash…”
You do seem to forget Axelrod chortling with glee that Obama would raise a billion for this election. He telegraphed it. He sent the message.. it’s a fund raising contest..
Now, .. it’s the republicans fault that their war chest is going to top 1.6 billion? Don’t tell someone ya want to rumble that has more “rumble”… eh?
I applaud the fact that the republican party now has a counterweight to the Democratic giveaway machine… you will be too… I promise.
July 25, 2012 at 1:55 am #764894
JayDeeParticipantAll: We should all be ashamed that America has come to this: whomever can raise the most cash has a good chance to be president. Period. We support democracy in the Middle East while neglecting our own.
I don’t think that raising the most cash correlating to winning the election is the case in England, France, or Canada. I honestly think that whomever wins the election does so on their recent record and their parties record, not on how much wealthy individuals and our corporations (Which have the right of free speech but not the responsibilities of citizenship) can control who gets to run for president.
JV – Any criticism of the current president’s work and travel habits pales in comparison to George Bush The Second. Obama takes < 1/3 the vacation and as far as I am concerned, that may be too little. He spends our money when traveling, but so do all Presidents. Think of it a stimulus package.
July 25, 2012 at 1:58 am #764895
JanSParticipantTo JV and Kootchman..bullcrap. you have no effing idea what he does. You are not privy to that information. All rrpeatiing conjecture on your part. It ‘s getting downright silly at times the fact that you pass donn this right wing propaganda. You kill more good discussions than not..
JV. …Mr. Bush junior made an art of using AF-1.Oh, apologies for mentioning that president who shall never be discussed.
July 25, 2012 at 1:59 am #764896
JoBParticipantJV
“JoB, when Romney is out raising money, he is not using Air Force One spending our money.”
Rmney has not been elected President of the United States. If he does and wants a second term he will definately be doing the same dance Obama is now.
and that my friend, is the point you seem to be missing.
July 25, 2012 at 2:06 am #764897
JoBParticipantJV
” Do you think he wants prosperity, or do you think he wants fairness? (Equal opportunity or equal results might be a better way to put it.)
Does he want a stronger economy, or does he want more people dependent on the government?
Does he want to improve America, or does he want to “fundamentally change” America?”
I am sorry but that is just about the stupidest piece of drivel i have heard lately.
You are really buying the crap the political pundits are dishing out aren’t you?
The only social engineering that is going on in American politics today is being driven by Republicans.
I would say that disenfranchising women, immigrants, the elderly, the poor and any democrat they can is fundamentally changing American ideals, wouldn’t you?
Take a look outside of that ivy covered tower you think you live in and you will find people living literally on your streets.. employable people who would like nothing more than a job.
take a look at our infrastructure and you will find that it is badly in need of rebuilding.
we don’t need to dig ditches and fill them back up again to find work for America’s citizens.
as for those resumes.. next time you stop out for a meal, why don’t you ask your server what they majored in and how long they have been trying to get a day job that would add to their resume.
you know.. i edited this to remove my closing line.. but i have changed my mind.
My advice to you is to pull your head out of the echo chamber you are living in before you erode what is left of your little grey cells…
and that is the niced edition ;->
July 25, 2012 at 2:11 am #764898
JoBParticipantJV..
because his press secretary didn’t say it.. it isn’t so?
is that how it is in faux land?
a tree falls in the forest and it doesn’t make a sound unless someone makes a soundbite out of it?
if i were you i wouldn’t walk in the woods dude..?
because things that don’t get reported happen out there.
July 25, 2012 at 2:12 am #764899
JoBParticipantkootch..
i dont’ know what you are drinking lately
but i am pretty sure it isn’t kool-aid
July 25, 2012 at 3:21 am #764900
kootchmanMemberWe believe it .. we can see it!
“I would say that disenfranchising women, immigrants, the elderly, the poor and any democrat they can is fundamentally changing American ideals, wouldn’t you?”
Ohhh lord.. the melodrama has no limits…. none of that has happened, will happen… and ya know.. I don’t care. If they fly the Democratic flag… and can’t tolerate a an achievement and merit based society… they missed some critical life lessons somewhere.. We are trying to save ya… will ya stop fighting the rescue swimmers and take the tow line? I know this is so difficult to understand.. we all do better when the individual does his or her best to do better, passes that tradition on so it replicates itself.
Based on fact and observation, YoBama wants your government to be your momma. The numbers speak for themselves. we really don’t need the rhetoric.. it’s sorta like the cheers at a gladitorial even.. it adds to the experience… unemployment, lack of business expansion, rate of new business development, mean income, deficits, broken and broke governments, taxation burdens (all of them, SFL) Just for fun… what letter grade WOULD you give him?
To every season… as the refrain goes.. and this season is get the fiscal house in order… the party is over for a bit.
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