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    JoB
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    i found this little tidbit in Mother Jones…

    a seating chart for congress based on where their campaign contributions come from.

    eye opening. anyone worried about the influence of labor should think again when it comes to the senate :(

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/09/congress-corporate-sponsors

    #705167

    JoB
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    buried in this was Ron Paul.. the libertarian from texas…

    “GIs, meet geeks. The small-government libertarian’s biggest givers are members of the military, followed by Google and Microsoft employees.”

    wonder if either side knows the company they are keeping?

    #705168

    HMC Rich
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    I worry more about the public employees unions. They now outnumber private unions.

    #705169

    JoB
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    HMCRich…

    you have lost your perspective…

    money is where the real power is now…

    and if you don’t believe that you should take a closer look at who is funding that tea party of yours

    #705170

    redblack
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    yeah, rich. members of AFSCME, AFGE, etc. total something like 4% of the work force, and AFL-CIO-type union members total about 3% of the work force.

    wtf are republicans so hung up on unions for? you broke us already.

    before you say it, private enterprise is outspending unions around 20-1 on campaign donations.

    #705171

    JoB
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    redblack..

    and that isn’t the whole story.

    Private enterprise is outspending unions 20-1 with the aid of anonymous donations to special interest groups.

    The trouble with anonymous donations is that you have no idea who or where they are coming from.

    It is now absolutely possible for foreign interests to funnel money into American elections.

    It’s still illegal.. but without transparency and accountability it is possible.

    the American Chamber of Commerce has made a huge investment in this election and has a large number of foreign donors dumping money into the same general fund that is writing the checks for all of those ads…

    and you thought the chamber of commerce was all about main street :(

    the only good news is that republican greed in financing this election may be the silver lining that eventually breaks the latest supreme court ruling on elections….

    it will take decades… much like the recent decision on don’t ask don’t tell… and it may be too late by then.

    but at least there is hope.

    #705172

    Carson
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    while its limited in scope and not always updated, I love to see who is giving what and to who.

    http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/moneymap.php

    #705173

    JoB
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    Carson..

    maps like this used to tell us something.

    with the new election financing decision what you can’t see is outspending what you can:(

    though we may know what organizations are spending this new source of money on what candidates..

    we don’t know who is supplying the cash:(

    #705174

    Carson
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    I said its limited and only shows direct donations, not special interest or referendums. Either way, its the new way the game is played, like it or not.

    #705175

    dawsonct
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    Remember when the conneds where so up in arms over “Chinagate?”

    They don’t mind foreign contributions, as long as they all go to them.

    The Republican’t Party, the best group of corporate sycophants contributions can buy.

    You know, connedservatives, your Party leadership couldn’t be more blatant about their disdain for mainstream Americans, only working to assure the comfort and wealth of the already wealthy, the ONLY constituency that REALLY matters to them.

    How do you support that?

    #705176

    JoB
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    carson…

    contrary to what seems to be current popular opinion… winning isn’t everything.

    there was a time when Americans demanded that even their sports teams play fair.

    #705177

    redblack
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    jo: today, i heard that the idiot from mt. vernon claimed that your local chamber of commerce was the same as the u.s. chamber of commerce. wtf?? do i laugh or cry?

    he then implored his listeners to contribute to the u.s. chamber of commerce forthwith, because they are you.

    speaking of “they are you,” i heard the twit from delaware claim that the u.s. was fighting the u.s.s.r. in afghanistan in the 1980’s – despite the fact that that particular covert war has never been u.s. foreign policy and no one in the u.s. government has ever admitted giving aid to pakistan to fund the mujahadeen – who actually were fighting the russians, and who then turned their ire, stolen stinger missiles, and u.s. taxpayer dollars against the u.s. in the late ’90’s.

    dawsonct: spot on.

    i wonder if any of them will ever acknowledge that the central district really is a part of the u.s., despite its proximity to broadmoor and madrona.

    edit: here on the wes’ side, we all rub elbows, no matter your income or political stripe. i blame the bridge commute.

    #705178

    JoB
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    then thank god for the bridge commute

    #705179

    dawsonct
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    I’m serious; how is it our conservative friends can justify their continued support of a Party who only seem to have one policy: increase the overwhelming wealth and power of the overwhelmingly wealthy and powerful?

    In what ways is America better for the average American citizen since the Laffer/Wanniski/Reagan “revolution?” While per-worker productivity continues to rise in America, REAL product is no longer manufactured, the average American is working longer hours, more weeks out of the year, with far fewer benefits (so they are lost or replaced out of pocket. Talk about a hidden tax!), and for wages that have in no way kept up with inflation.

    The Republicans have most recently actively worked to block the end of tax breaks for corporations to (continue to) close factories in America and move production overseas. Good for CEO’s and unscrupulous share-holders, completely destructive for the rest of us.

    They haven’t forced govt. oversight of women’s health issues, as promised.

    They haven’t been able to force homosexual Americans back into the closet, as promised.

    They haven’t been able to force us to pray to their Christian God in schools, as promised.

    The Democratic Party is STILL actively NOT doing anything to take your 2d amendment rights away, as your fear-filled, fear-mongering leaders keep threatening.

    They have turned America into a Nation of two industries: financial services, and prisons,

    yet the Average American citizen is poorer and less safe than they were 30 years ago.

    #705180

    JoB
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    dawsonct..

    denial fueled by false advertising

    at least that’s what i think

    as someone close to me recently said

    “that’s just not how i see myself”

    #705181

    dawsonct
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    I never get an answer to those questions.

    #705182

    acemotel
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    who are those two red dots? I want to donate to them!

    and by the way, the concentration of wealth has become even more concentrated in the past decade. It’s a crying shame that some (too many) working people buy into their own enslavement. It never fails to amaze me that people will work passionately against their own interests.

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