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September 6, 2012 at 4:30 pm #769440
JanSParticipantDBP…for the record…Kman is convinced that women are not as pissed of as JoB says..so I was simply giving an example of one pissed off woman. Now…for the record some more. I do not agree with this woman’s stand on adoption.
I did find it interesting, though, that you think that a woman who puts her feelings in writing on a blog is a blowhard….wow..do you feel that way about all women who express their feelings, without giving you a dissertation about the rest of their lives? Did I misunderstand?
September 6, 2012 at 4:41 pm #769441
DBPMemberFeelings are ok, on this blog and anywhere else. As long as they are not held up as being facts, or as being more valid than facts.
Facts are ok, too. As long as they are not allowed to trump feelings.
September 6, 2012 at 4:56 pm #769442
JanSParticipantI was posting one woman’s feelings…what? we can’t have those? The fact is, Kootchman has no idea how many pissed off women are out here, and I’m betting the number is greater than he thinks – his opinion, not his facts…but you didn’t have an argument with that? Or do you have an argument with what he considers his “facts”?
September 6, 2012 at 10:31 pm #769443
kootchmanMemberI don’t care how many “pissed off” women are out there. All I care about is jobs, GDP, and deficits. I know women are a Democratic core.. we don’t need them all… just enough to take the White House back. I can read poll data. Mayhaps you underestimate the number of women who don’t think the government should be their surrogate “big daddy” … whose main role is to provide free birth control. No other issue is as important. we will know by 7PM, November 2.
September 6, 2012 at 10:39 pm #769444
kootchmanMemberTanDL… but the total number of employed fell… that means, there are the hundreds and hundreds of thousands who just gave up. I can predict any outcome, and then use the statistics to justify it. A recovery is when you start slapping 1.5 million jobs per month…. we have 23 million who are out of the work force. It’s called the U6 rate. We will get the U3 rate tomorrow. The key number that counts EVERYONE is U6. But 200K is better than 130K.. but it’s a drip in a 55 gallon drum. JoB go tell your steel Magnolias to grow up, act responsibly and buy their own birth control or have their paramours slip on the old condoms?!! Hey there is a novel idea!
September 6, 2012 at 10:47 pm #769445
kootchmanMemberShould have used union electricians at the DNC.. no matter how hard they tried… the just couldn’t get Obama out of the shadow of Bill Clinton… (stolen from Jay Leno…but sooo true!)
September 6, 2012 at 11:06 pm #769446
JanSParticipantcertainly know that I don’t want YOU for a “big daddy!” And…if you’re concerned about jobs, get Boehner to cooperate and compromise…get McConnel to cooperate and compromise…and…the latest jobs report is better than expected…but we know that you’ll just poopoo it…so..save your fingers, and your breath..
September 7, 2012 at 1:24 am #769447
dobroParticipant“A recovery is when you start slapping 1.5 million jobs per month…”
We know Bill Clinton did that. Who was the last Republican President to meet that figure?
September 7, 2012 at 1:26 am #769448
dobroParticipantBTW, did any of you guys go see the movie? Review?
September 7, 2012 at 2:00 am #769449
SmittyParticipant“We know the Republican Congress did that. When was the last Democrat(ic) Congress to meet that figure?
Fixed.
September 7, 2012 at 2:07 am #769450
kootchmanMemberwell here;s the thing dobro… Clinton isn;t running.. but on his watch the NASDAQ lost 47%w of it;s value… and he set the table more than any President for the economic recession we are in.. need I list again the CRA rewrite, repeal of Glass Steagall . deregulation of Derivatives so he could get his CRA to fly… NAFTA. China trade agreements? . Did you happen to note Dobro… Clinton got NONE of that economic success til he dropped Hilarycare, and faced off with a Republican House and Senate and followed their budget? Read the excerpts from Bob Woodwards new book… “The Price of Politics”… where Obama called in the House and Senate leaders… see what he told Cantor.. read how Nancy Pelosi hit the mute button while Obama was on the speaker phone… this partisan division, started three days after Obama took office. Cantor went in with a spirit of bi-partisan suggestions.. lowered tax rates for the poor, no income tax on unemployment, 20? cut in taxes for small business… but Obama had unions and Wall Street donors to pay off.solar panels and windmills to build, a carbon industry to hobble…amateur idealogy,, completely ignored Cantor… “small business” needed the help..and Obama was too smart to take advice and counsel. .Woodward reports int he first meeting Obama told him.. “elections have consequences and we won” that ended bi-partisan governance… immediately and effectively. At least we KNOW Romney can govern in a bi-partisan government. Obama couldn’t. See we are holding Obama accountable for the last four years… we have gone from Hope and Change to “Be Patient” .. ain’t very inspiring. Seems Woodward isn’t very kind to Obama and we know he is no Republican!!!!! Perspective .. cause and effect.
September 7, 2012 at 3:54 am #769451
dobroParticipant“We know the Republican Congress did that. When was the last Democrat(ic) Congress to meet that figure?”
If its Congress who creates all those jobs why the heck are you blaming Obama for the unemployment rate? I believe all finance related (jobs) bills in Congress must originate in the House (currently controlled by Repubs). Are you saying all this unemployment stuff is their fault?
September 7, 2012 at 5:38 am #769452
dobroParticipant“Clinton isn;t running.. but on his watch the NASDAQ lost 47%w of it;s value… and he set the table more than any President for the economic recession we are in…faced off with a Republican House and Senate and followed their budget?”
how did he do that tablesettin’ when it was the Republican Congress whose will he was following? And didn’t you just say the stock market doesn’t mean sh!t except if it went down 3000 points, then it would be Obama’s fault? I think it might be past the old Perfesser’s bedtime, he’s soundin’ a tad befuddled.
September 7, 2012 at 8:20 am #769453
HMC RichParticipantDobro. TARP and Stimulus and regulations are still in effect when the Democrats owned the House Senate and Presidency. No Budget changes to stop the spending.
Obama promised to cut the debt, but it only rose. Obama said Unemployment would not go above 8%. It did and has stayed there.
You guys complain about the tax rates, but you don’t complain about the spending and the new monkey on our back called ACA.
Your leaders at the convention got caught lying in front of GOD and the country trying to hide your far left hate of GOD and how you despise Israel. You are more concerned about a woman who doesn’t want a kid after having sex than the termination of a life.
You had no problem with an Inconveniant Truth that has been proven to be wrong on many fronts.
So Please. The country is in the doldrums. You elected a self made Socialist and now you are seeing socialist stagnation. Sucks to be us.
Go Romney and Ryan.
September 7, 2012 at 8:26 am #769454
JanSParticipantlol…the ACA is here to stay, I’m thinking. Do you really think that seniors are going to put up with the donut hole again? And that’s just one thing.
ah, yes…socialist…name call when you have nothing else..
no, Rich…we want men to keep their legislation out of our vaginas and uteri (can’t be any clearer than that)…you are so damned concerned with what a woman does or doesn’t do…why is that? what’s it to ya? wow…and you accuse us?
September 7, 2012 at 8:27 am #769455
JanSParticipantand where do you come up with we all hate G-d? I don’t have to believe what you believe…but hate? HATE? SERIOUSLY? You know better than that…at least, I think you do…I’ll give you that much. God shouldn’t be part of any platform..or are you all worried about the Communist scourge again?
September 7, 2012 at 2:51 pm #769456
miwsParticipantSeptember 7, 2012 at 3:27 pm #769457
TanDLParticipantHMC.. Dude. Chill out. Your statements are sweeping gross generalizations on a whole diverse part of the U.S. Democrats are no more all god haters than Republicans are frigid. Granted we have an ideolgical differences on economic and social issues, but we’re still all Americans.
“Self made Socialist”… really? Get a grip, man. We’ve had Socialist types of programs in this country for years and have managed somehow to survive and at times, even thrive. Both Bush and Obama bailed out the Banks, because there was too much national and global risk involved in letting them fail and most other Presidents would have done the same. Do you think Reagan, Nixon, HW Bush would have let the banks fail? And those Presidents also had to let some of their promises go. Remember the promise “Read my lips, no new taxes.” Promises made – promises broken. You can promise your kids a new car when they turn 16 too, but if when they turn 16 you’re in a personal economic crisis and don’t have the money to do that, you may have to break your promise. Life and outside forces sometimes do that to you.
Why do we hold our Presidents – and mostly this one – to a higher standard?
September 7, 2012 at 6:54 pm #769458
JanSParticipantSeptember 14, 2012 at 7:17 am #769459
dobroParticipantSo did any of you guys ever go see this movie? Review?
September 16, 2012 at 4:42 pm #769460
redblackParticipanti saw d’souza address americans for austerity – oops! that’s prosperity, dick armey’s PAC – and talk about his book on c-span 2 yesterday.
the thing that struck me is that he consistently attributed thoughts and motives to obama without actually citing anything. there was, however, lots of speculation on the meaning of the title of obama’s book, dreams from my father. there was lots of speculation on obama’s desire to marginalize america. d’souza decried the notion that america shouldn’t consume as much of the world’s natural resources as we do – whether or not obama has ever said or implied that.
but nothing was cited.
the Q&A from the audience was intersting, too. there were a few questions about the mechanics of obama suspending elections, martial law, and what the response from the (presumably armed) citizenry should be.
September 16, 2012 at 5:11 pm #769461
JanSParticipantwhat I see about d’souza is..it’s all speculation. If he can’t get down to the nitty gritty facts, it’s just an opinion. You and I have opinions, too. What makes him any different, and why is he getting so much press?
September 16, 2012 at 5:17 pm #769462
DBPMemberWhere the hell is JV? Did he see this film or not?
September 16, 2012 at 5:24 pm #769463
redblackParticipantwell, i sure as heck am not giving that kook a thin dime for that bit of yellow “journalism” if his film is anything like the book he describes.
September 16, 2012 at 6:57 pm #769464
kootchmanMemberHe may have ben speculating.. but with some basis. He certainly has marginalized us. I am a senior,… they can close that donut hole tomorrow… what’s the matter… cradle to grave government actually missed a couple of years? How did that happen? He’s getting so much press because he has a NY Times Bestseller and is on pace to have the most widely viewed documentary in US History.. Sure has hit the sweet spot of crossing over to the popular culture.
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