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September 3, 2012 at 1:07 am #769390
kootchmanMemberThere are more.. JV .. many more.. communists, anti-capitalists, he had to drift from one male figure to another to seek an identity he couldn’t get from a stable two parent home. Abandonment and deception are I would suspect, very formative influences.
September 3, 2012 at 1:11 am #769391
JVMemberAnd as for Michael Moore, kootch is right AND don’t forget he was given a front row seat at the Dim convention in 2004.
I think he was sitting right next to Carter.
(Are there any other incorrect arguments you’d like us to debunk?)
September 3, 2012 at 1:27 am #769392
JanSParticipantyou know…people…including you, JV..need to call Repubs “Repubs”, and..call Dems “Dems” not “Dims”…grow up and have an adult conversation. People took a lot of heat the last go around for calling Republicans names…lets raise the standard, shall we?
Michael Moore is very honest about who he is and who and what he supports and doesn’t support. Dinesh D’Souza? not so much…he hides behind his “journalistic” title…
September 3, 2012 at 1:28 am #769393
JanSParticipantgee…JV…Have you read Dreams from my Father? Want to borrow a copy and familiarize yourself with what is actually in there?
September 3, 2012 at 1:30 am #769394
JanSParticipantKman…did I say the bullshit never happened before? Nope…and , yes, it’s all bullshit propaganda..all of it…not to be taken seriously by educated thinking people…IMHO..but…you do what you want
September 3, 2012 at 1:37 am #769395
JanSParticipantSeptember 3, 2012 at 1:51 am #769396
miwsParticipantY’know, I always thought the more conservative folks really admired those that have achieved success, after overcoming obstacles, barriers and other life struggles.
Obama did that.
And, it’s really hard to argue the fact that Romney led a pretty damned privileged life. And I mean that as a point of fact, not as an insult to Romney.
Mike
September 3, 2012 at 2:13 am #769397
dobroParticipantSomething I find interesting is that Mittens has held exactly one elected position, Gov of Mass., and, unlike the Quitta from Wasilla, served an entire term and has a record of things he did. As a challenger to a sitting President, whose record we can all see for ourselves, why wouldn’t he want to inform us of his great record and all the great things he’s done as an elected official since that’s what he’s attempting to become again?
I don’t recall him saying much at all about his stellar record as guv, do you? Even in his big speech. Maybe its not all that much to talk about…or…what?
Any of you armchair psychologists got a diagnosis on that?
September 3, 2012 at 9:10 am #769398
kootchmanMemberI heard lots.. I heard he lowered taxes AND erased a budget deficit. Course, I watched the convention! Other speakers were very eloguent.. especially governors that lowered taxes and erased deficits… like Christie, Martinez, Walker, Kasich… all of them. If course they being actual executives of states wold know that,… and in :Taxachussets as two of them called it….that was damn near a miracle..
September 3, 2012 at 9:15 am #769399
kootchmanMemberI see you didn’t watch the convention either miws…. didn;t hear Ann talk about the ironing board table, in the flat, while she was pregnant, and he was a student.. Obama got into Occidental College on a foreign student grant… still love to hear that one explained… but we won’t.
September 3, 2012 at 10:27 am #769400
JanSParticipanthttp://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp
liar, liar, pants on fire…
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp
I thought you were better than to believe all that crap…guess not…
September 3, 2012 at 3:00 pm #769401
JoBParticipantkootch..
“JFK picked Cliff Robertson to play the lead, while he was in office.”
it’s not unusual for public figures to have input into who plays them in films.. especially for public figures as connected to Hollywood as JFK was..
and it wasn’t a campaign film… it was an adventure film..
though i suppose you could make an argument that it could have been used during his next campaign had he lived long enough to have one.
And it wasn’t a “documentary” claiming to have insight into the “real” Kennedy either…
though that might have made an equally interesting film.
Nope kootch.. this stands alone as a piece of propaganda designed to unseat a sitting president…
My personal wish list includes this being a big wake up call to the part of America that thinks their vote doesn’t matter.
How low will you go?
Maybe low enough to wake America up.
September 3, 2012 at 3:14 pm #769402
redblackParticipantyeah, kootch. i heard ann’s speech.
and i didn’t believe a word of it. she has no idea what a hardscrabble existence looks like. none whatsoever. and moreover, i don’t think she cares.
i know willard doesn’t.
ann is as much of a manchurian candidate as he is. ’cause i’m pretty sure they’re both robots.
September 3, 2012 at 3:17 pm #769403
TanDLParticipantWow… Kootchman, just when you start to sound credible again, you blow it by promoting a lie. Right wing radicals keep pushing the urban myth that Obama attended Occidental College under the name Barry Soretoro and received a grant for foreign students only, therefore he’s not a U.S. citizen.
There has never been a Barry Soretoro registered at Occidental College. Move on – this urban myth has been trying to be promoted for 4 years now. His U.S. citizen mother gave birth to him in Hawaii.
September 3, 2012 at 4:07 pm #769404
miwsParticipantIt’s like a sauuuu-na in here!
September 3, 2012 at 4:33 pm #769405
dobroParticipant“I heard he lowered taxes AND erased a budget deficit.”
Did he mention anything about Romneycare (the template for Obamacare)?
September 3, 2012 at 11:50 pm #769406
SmittyParticipantSeptember 3, 2012 at 11:56 pm #769407
JanSParticipantand your point?
September 4, 2012 at 1:09 am #769408
SmittyParticipantStrictly informational….
September 4, 2012 at 1:15 am #769409
JanSParticipantSeptember 4, 2012 at 3:44 am #769410
kootchmanMemberWhere is the application for his student grant? Sealed. Disheartening isn’t it? Tell me JoB and Farenheit 9/11 was designed to get Bush re-elected right? If words unseat a sitting president.. he is a tad unsettled in the saddle. He is so weak, he has to call on the one man in the Democratic Party that hates his guts to give the keynote address. The ex Prez who less than 30 days ago said Mitt was well qualified to be President.. the ex Prez that said ALL the Bush tax cuts should be extended, … a little tip from a documentary is going to unseat him? Not if he delivered on half his promises would he be on such shaky ground. Clinton must be laughing his ass off… but he his a good Democrate. He would be even more pleased than I would to see Obama be a one term President. DOris Kerns Goodwin has made special note that Obama is singularly the least engaged in the job President she has ever seen. Not at all engaged in working acrosss the aisle. In fact, going out of his way to appoint those incapable f compromise. I watched Brett Berher ask four DNC speakers if we are better off … not one could say yes Clinton said it best… Obama was not qualified to be President.. a good liberal activist maybe. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs… and not ones the taxpayer has to fund.. jobs by and from private enterprise. Bill is going to keep his brand intact… until Hilary gets in office or until he sets the table for his daughter. Clinton will never forgive Obama for his NC race to the gutter in NC during the Democratic campaign… payback in NC coming? How can you make an historical parallel? There is none. Clinton, not Obama is going to be the headliner. It’s ok for Pelosi and Harry to have it from good sources that Romney paid no taxes? That will fly in Dim Bulb land… let’s see the grant application. Bet is as compelling as the Cherokee princess claim to minority status… she doesn’t have the cheeckbones to pull that one off. Interesting JV.. while NC is being sued by the left … for requiring voter ID’s… guess what? You have to have a picture ID to get into the Convention Arena…!!!! Are Democrats suppressing the turnout of their base?
September 4, 2012 at 4:26 am #769411
dobroParticipant“..Clinton will never forgive Obama for his NC race to the gutter…”
When people pretend to know what other people are thinking, it pretty much confirms that their comments are BS.
September 4, 2012 at 4:59 am #769412
JanSParticipant:D
Kootch…PROVEN NOT TRUE…Be a conspiracy a$$ all you want, but you are wrong, and you will not have the last word on this. Get over it…you are wrong, it is false, and no amount of run on sentences will make it any different. Take your damned conspiracy theories to your fave right wing propaganda forums, where everyone will revere every word you say, and will believe anything.
Intelligent people here know differently.
September 4, 2012 at 5:01 am #769413
JanSParticipantand how the hell do you know that Clinton hates his guts. Did you meet with him at West 5 and talk it over? No…you have no idea how Clinton feels.
wow..you are a piece of work!
September 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm #769414
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