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May 28, 2008 at 10:12 pm #587067
Topic: Pimp My Grocery Store
in forum Open DiscussionJimmyGMemberI was just at the West Seattle Thriftway and they’re really spiffing the place up.
All of the checkout counters are being tarted up and changed a bit. New Credit/Debit card readers and the counter ends have new display areas.
The old magazine aisle is in the midst of a makeover with a much higher-end look.
So far looks good. Now if I could just stop seeing them wearing jeans on “game days”.
May 28, 2008 at 10:11 pm #625232In reply to: WASL/School Standards
hopeyParticipantWhich 23 year old do you think makes more money: a fresh college graduate, or the person who spent three or four years apprenticing to become a power line worker?
You tell me: http://www.nwppa.org/web/jobs/Linecrew1.shtml
You’ve got quite a chip on your shoulder there, Caduceus. I am glad you are accustomed to being the top of the heap. I hope you have been accepted into a very good college, where you can learn that there are people even smarter than you are — people who know the difference between “then” and “than”, “effects” and “affects”, or “fare” and “fair”.
College is NOT for everyone. Who do you think maintains our roads, builds our homes and office buildings, and picks up our garbage? By and large, those people are not college graduates. And in the very near future, most of those jobs are going to be filled by immigrants because our fine American youth think they are “too good” to perform those kinds of service jobs… nevermind the hefty paychecks that come along with them.
Your arrogance and sense of entitlement are truly impressive. The person who said you could stand to gain more life experience before making blanket pronouncements is less sophomoric than you, and I concur with their advice.
May 28, 2008 at 9:55 pm #621219In reply to: Hot for Hillary
walfredoMemberJoB- I wasn’t the only one who took what she said to mean- one justification for me to stay in the race, is that candidates get assassinated in June, there is precident.
Maybe its a leap to assume it’d be a Hillary supporter, but it certainly could be read as the subtext of what she said…
As far as the other statements she made, they were so deeply false its hard to begin… Bill Clinton wrapped up the nomination in April. Where’d I hear that? He wrote it in his memoirs “My Life”… The Kennedy reference, his campaign had been in existence for 3 months when he was assassinated in June. So, all the references were false, and in bad taste, but the assassination suggestion was deplorable.
As far as Bill Clinton’s whining about never seeing anything like the people trying to push Hillary out of the race… Here are some quotes from April 1992 from the Clinton campaign (note this isn’t June, and Bill had not reached the magic number):
“Things I see happening in the Brown campaign lead me to believe something destructive is happening. I’d say it’s time for Democrats to link arms, dig in our heels, set our sights and work together to put Bill Clinton in the White House in 1992.”
— Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin (NYT, 3/27/92)
“In an interview, Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, said he wanted to maintain his neutrality but was compelled to speak out against what he described as the former California Governor’s ‘scorched-earth policy’ of verbal assault on Mr. Clinton’s record and character. “
— NYT, 3/27/92
“It’s mathematically impossible for Brown to get the nomination.”
— Clinton spokesman George Stephanopoulos on Clinton’s last foe (NYT, 4/8/92)
“In the future, people will look back upon this week and this campaign as a turning point, not for Bill Clinton, but for the Democratic Party and for America.”
— Bill Clinton, after winning New York’s primary (NYT, 4/8/92)
“People are starting to rally around the flag.”
— Dee Dee Myers, Clinton Press Sec’y (NYT, 4/10/92)
“It’s time to close ranks. We cannot wait until July when we already know who has earned the right to be our nominee and who will be our nominee.”
— West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller (NYT, 4/11/92)
“Indeed, reports circulating on Capitol Hill said the Clinton campaign was mounting a strong campaign to swing uncommitted senators behind the Arkansas Governor, and that Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, was taking part in them.”
— NYT, 4/29/92
“I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would keep Bill Clinton from having a majority of the delegates by the end of the primary season.”
— Democratic Party Chairman Ronald H. Brown (NYT, 4/29/92)
“Mr. Brown added that he had long hoped for an early nominee ‘so we can focus our time and attention on George Bush.'”
— NYT, 4/29/92
So I’m sorry, Clintonistas, what is happening right now is not “unprecidented”. It’s not rare. It is what happens every election, once a candidate is mathmatically eliminated (in this race that was early March) pressure starts to mount for them to leave for the good of the party. And they respond by saying no one wins until they hit the magic number, and I’m staying in to help the people.
It’s not only precidented, and common- the Clintons themselves did they exact same thing when Bill won the nomination the first time- siting things like “it being mathmatically impossible for his opponent to win”, asking folks “to rally around the flag for the good of the party”…
There is no level of hypocrisy to which the Clintons will not sink in the pursuit of power, there is always a means to an end, and absolutely anything can be justified if it ends with them being in power…
May 28, 2008 at 9:54 pm #625494In reply to: Back alley pavement
SueParticipantThis might answer your question, or at least be a start in the right direction:
May 28, 2008 at 9:54 pm #621218In reply to: Hot for Hillary
beachdrivegirlParticipantLastly, as I have stated before, experience isn’t everything. To be a truely great President one must be a great leader. So lets look at the key characteristics that make up a leader: honest, forward-looking, competent, and inspiring. Personally, I only see these characteristics in one of the Presidential canidates.
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And on a side note, for all the Obama bashing that is being done her I think I am doing a great job of not bashing his opponent while trying to point out these false statements.
May 28, 2008 at 9:47 pm #621217In reply to: Hot for Hillary
beachdrivegirlParticipantJoB my post does not say one thing about experience and who has more of it. My post refelcts a once again false statement made by you in regards to Obama. You state that none of those things can be said about Obama which is not true. If it were true he obviously would not be where he is today. And lastly in regards to demographoics it is not true in every primary/cuacus once again do what I asked and take a look @ Oregon or in that case even Washington.
AnonymousInactiveNR, the video your talking about went viral a few months ago. The original is slightly longer than the excerpt conservative blogs are spreading. He is talking about cutting spending on military expenditures that are NOT related to keeping America safe. He has absolutely no plans to disarm our military. Here is a wiki link to our military spending compared to the rest of the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
He is referring to eliminating what he feels is wasteful and/or overspending in order to equip and maintain better what is important to the military. He actually wants our military to be better prepared than it is.
May 28, 2008 at 9:17 pm #621216In reply to: Hot for Hillary
AnonymousInactiveJoB – Lol!!!! I could say the same for you!
Far too smart to be a Democrat, and a bleeding heart, at that!! LOL!
AnonymousInactivers261 – I think if you type “Obama disarming military” into google, you will come up with some links that have the video of the speech. I cannot hear the speech, so can not debate about it. I would love a transcript if anyone knows where I can find it.
May 28, 2008 at 9:11 pm #621215In reply to: Hot for Hillary
JoBParticipantWsMom.. thank you.
rs261MemberI’d love to find out more about the disarming our military claim…I think we can cut lots of fat off of the military budget…but dont get me wrong, I think military spending is awesome. Tons of medical and consumer techs have come from the military over the years…
May 28, 2008 at 9:11 pm #621214In reply to: Hot for Hillary
JoBParticipantNewResident..
see, i knew you were smart.. you figured it out while i was writing to you…
but i decided to leave my post anyway after seeing yours.. because i thought it was something that needed to be said…
I think you are smart.. misguided for sure .. you are far too smart to be a Republican ;-)
AnonymousInactiveWell, BDG, you’re not running for President and trying to convince the entire country that you are the woman for the job.
McCain’s error with the terrorist groups does not indicate that he does not know what is going on in this country and others. He simply “misspoke”. He did exactly what Obama did and made a mistake in a speech.
I just don’t see why McCain is held to such a higher standard. I think everything McCain and Obama do from here on out will be picked through with a fine tooth comb, as it should be. I do not believe Obama will hold his own very well in this new arena.
I honestly don’t think a lot of you realize how intelligent McCain is. Have any of you read a book by McCain?
I still haven’t had one good reason explained for disarming or weakening our military. Why is that a good plan?
May 28, 2008 at 9:04 pm #621213In reply to: Hot for Hillary
JoBParticipantbeachdrivegirl…
Senator Obama’s work ethic is not reflected in his voting record in the senate… while Senator Clinton’s clearly is.
Check out their voting records.
He was not known for his attendance in the Senate even prior to his campaign… and was not known to stay late and work long hours on the committees he was assigned to. In fact, he was known for heading home early every weekend and coming back late.
he also has not been known for his committee attendance …even prior to his campaign.. but especially while campaigning..
I believe that speaks more directly to his work ethic than his campaign…. which is managed by others… does.
I have never heard or read any comments about his desire to attend briefings and stay after to clarify any questions… while those comments are consistently made about Hillary.
On at least one occasion, since becoming a candidate, he was among the candidates who chose to leave directly after his briefing on the middle east and other military matters by past commanders.. not one of the two.. Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton who chose to stay and ask clarifying questions…
the positive remark made most often by those who have been associated with Senator Obama in the past is that he is charismatic…
the negative one is that he takes credit for the work of others.
and i believe you will find both referenced in wikipedia.
I believe you will find Senator Clinton’s record on legislation which benefits the poor.. and her record on working directly on issues that pertain to the wellbeing of women and children also referenced in wikipedia… and in the congressional record.
Senator Obama’s efforts can be found in the same two sources.
Senator Clinton’s record on those matters and her reputation speaks for itself.. while Senator Obama’s does not.
I did not imply that Senator Clinton’s campaign gets to decide who the working class voters are… in fact… i just read back to see if i even used that phrase.. and i didn’t.
but since you brought up the Oregon campaign… you might want to take a closer look at the demographics of that vote… which are consistent with the demographics of other primary votes… and clearly demonstrate a population that is not responding to senator Obama’s message…
A look at the statistics will show you that in spite of the repeated efforts to show that the primary is over… the Obama momentum stalled long ago. He is doing no better now… when everyone has called the race.. than he did on super tuesday.
that is not the pattern one would hope to see from a winning candidate who has delivered a clear message… he should be doing increasingly better in each primary… and he is not.
That should tell you that his message is missing a substantial number of democrats.
Perhaps there is a reason.
beachdrivegirlParticipantFurthermore, considering this is a family story I dont think references need to even be talked about. I dont check the references on every story I hear from mother, father, grandmother etc.
beachdrivegirlParticipantMcCain’s confusiion is a huge deal becuase it reflects CURRENT terroist groups. Groups that our next President must not confuse, must be educated on, and must be one step ahead of. It sure puts doubt in my mind as to what type of “leader” he can be if he does not understand why we are curretnly in war and what terrosts groups exist and where.
AnonymousInactiveWouldn’t you want your future President to check his references and his story before he speaks publicly about it?
I know that everyone was very upset that McCain made a “mistake” when he got some terrorist groups mixed up. I remember everyone thinking it was a very “big deal” that he misspoke. Why is McCain held to a higher standard?
In my opinion, it is a “big deal” in that it illustrates his extreme lack of experience. How could he not foresee that the story he remembered from his childhood and shared with America would not be checked for accuracy? If it doesn’t illustrate his inexperience, then it certainly illustrates his poor judgment at the very least.
And what about plans on disarming our military? I haven’t looked a lot into this claim. The video was sent to me via email, but my sound is broken on the computer and I cannot find a transcript of the speech anywhere. As far as I can tell, the entire video has been removed from the internet.
Thoughts?
beachdrivegirlParticipantI think it is in regards to stopping the production of Nuclear fire arms and trying to reason with Russia. Personally, I dont know the details of his plan, but on the surface I don not personally see to much of a problem with it.
rs261MemberAs far as him “disarming” our military, I’d like to ask in what regard?
The uncle/great uncle thing messing up the location, not that big of a deal in my opinion…what McCain slip up are you talking about?
beachdrivegirlParticipantI think that that Obama honestly made a mistake in regards to his uncle invading Auschwitz. It was his great uncle not uncle and I know that I call my great Uncles, Uncle. I also dont think it is that big of a deal about getting the rade place wrong because when you heard a story as a kid that is simpel mistake to make especially since he did not actually live through the experience himself and since it was his great Uncle he probably was very young.
May 28, 2008 at 8:32 pm #625486In reply to: VCA Animal Hospital bording
beachdrivegirlParticipantThanks for the feedback Mattyc. If you need to board your dog in the future I know mine is a big fan of the Barking Lounge. (Not quite W.Seattle based) but the people are very friendly, my dog still runs through the door and they wash all of his bedding upon my return. And lastly, what sold me on the place, (literally) was the fact taht they have web cams so you can check in on your guy/gal during the day! :)
May 28, 2008 at 8:32 pm #625485In reply to: VCA Animal Hospital bording
flowerpetalMemberHow unfortuante. I am glad that you confronted the clinic with the issue. That is totally unnecessary. We have boarded our pets at Burien Vet and had postive outcomes. We have used only once; but equally favorable; Petsmart Hotel at South Center. But our preferred method is to swap care with friends; and while that doesn’t work out for everyone, our situation has worked. It does mean that you and your friends can’t go on a trip together though! Who will stay home with the pups?
May 28, 2008 at 8:29 pm #621212In reply to: Hot for Hillary
AnonymousInactiveThank you for that, JoB. Please refer back to my post, as I did edit it because I mis-read yours initially.
Guess I’m not so bright! Lol!
What it’s worth, glad you’re back.
AnonymousInactiveI know that I vowed to not discuss politics, but I just cannot help myself. Especially since I notice that none of this has been discussed on this forum.
I know that you would all rather discuss polls and numbers and ratings, but I wanted to get feedback on some issues.
What are your thoughts regarding Obama’s plans to disarm our military?
What are your thoughts on his story about his “uncle” invading Auschwitz?
I know that when McCain “misspoke”, it was the worst thing in the world and he was a complete idiot. What is it, then, when Obama misspeaks?
May 28, 2008 at 8:22 pm #621211In reply to: Hot for Hillary
JoBParticipantNewResident…
“expecting more implies a belief in their intelligence”
means that i think you are intelligent..
not that i think you are stupid.
for the record.. i do not think Walfredo or Ken are stupid either.. for those who might misread my intention.
I am not sure why you have come to believe that i think you are stupid… and therefore read anything i say that way… since everything i have ever said both implies and says that i think you are not stupid.
So.. for the record. I don’t think you are stupid. I have never thought you are stupid. In fact, I think you are pretty intelligent…
i post links for you so you can learn from being exposed to opposing points of view.. not so that i can refute you.
I don’t look down on you because you are not formally educated.
i stated here that i think some of the most intelligent and insightful people i have ever encountered are self educated..
and that i think the best of education and that which i value most in myself… comes from continually challenging the things you think you know by reading opposing viewpoints.
You either change your mind or come to understand your own viewpoints better.
I don’t have a clue where you got the idea that i thought less of you.
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