Re: Hot for Hillary

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JoB
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according to Wikipedia..

she certainly met Martin Luther King in circumstances which probably meant she shook hands with him.

i only know that because i just read the entire wikipedia files on both Clinton and Obama…along with most of the comments.

I will have to go back and read the McCain file as well to respect New Resident, who posted it.

I expect that to be equally illuminating. Reading the wikipedia files is an exercise i can heartily recommend.

it certainly disposes of more than one campaign myth.. on both sides.

As for the “lies” ..

you hold a very one sided view of events and even when confronted by opposing viewpoints continue to label her as a liar.

There is ample evidence written prior to her Presidential run that Hillary was in fact opposed to NAFTA during it’s formative stages.

Once the decision was made to go ahead with NAFTA, she supported her husband, her party head and her President in carrying out that program.

Not quite the big lie …

I was under fire in Bosnia…

there is evidence that she expected that she might be under fire in Bosnia… but certainly not that she was under fire…

The story is an embellishment… She said she was wrong about it. what more do you want?

I helped negotiate peace in Northern Ireland…

there are people who were involved in the Peace process in Ireland who felt she was helpful in negotiating peace. She didn’t say that she was responsible for peace in Ireland.. only that she helped.

Not so big a lie.

As for the Mark Penn comment.. i don’t know if he is still running the morning press conference calls..

but apparently you have some insight into that?

I do know that his firm is still providing polling data to the Clinton campaign (she has stated as much) and i would be willing to bet that there is a conference call every morning from his polling firm..

and i would assume that means from him… analyzing and discussing the current polls..

So.. does the existence of a morning call constitute him “running the morning press conference calls” … ?

maybe you can characterize it that way. You could as easily characterize it as the morning call from her polling firm..

But going on to infer that he is still part of her campaign because she is paying his firm for polling services could be a real stretch.

Hmmmm… I would assume there must be a similar call each morning with Obama’s campaign and whatever polling firm he chooses to use.

I get that you think it is not enough to publicly state that he does not represent her campaign in any way….she should change polling services immediately… mid campaign…

and perhaps that is the same opinion held by your source.. but that would still be an opinion.. wouldn’t it?

Not so big a lie….

So…. who does make this stuff up as you put it?

I am assuming you heard about it all somewhere…

could it be your source is the press.. or the Obama campaign?

repeating half truths and innuendos (rumors) as fact … is itself a big lie.