New views of 42nd/Oregon project, & more time to comment

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

After learning the 42nd/Oregon project plan had changed, with 50 percent more apartments and about 80 percent less commercial space, Junction Neighborhood Organization president Erica Karlovits asked the new developers for the revised drawings.

According to correspondence she shared with JuNO members, they said they wanted to wait until they could show the drawings at the community meeting they had scheduled for June 15th.

That was a potential problem, as June 15th was also the deadline for public comments when the city sent official notice of the changes last week, but Karlovits says the city has just agreed to extend the deadline to June 29th.

If you want details sooner – including a look at a few of the new project-exterior renderings – hard copies are in the city files, so we went downtown to take a look:

First, some background:

This project first came to light almost four years ago, proposed for 89 residential units – original discussion was for condos, but the market has changed dramatically since then – and more than 20,000 square feet of retail space. Here’s our coverage of its first Design Review meeting in 2007. Concerns at the time focused on its size and bulk, atop the SW Oregon rise from Fauntleroy Way to 42nd; its future site has held four small homes for almost a century (three will be demolished, while the fourth was moved to Admiral last year).

Fourteen months after the first hearing, the project was scheduled to return to Design Review, with a different architect – though the meeting coincided with Snowpocalypse ’08, and was delayed till the following month (January 2009).

That meeting resulted in board approval for the project – as it was proposed then, still with about 90 residential units and 20,000+ square feet of retail space. The project’s 2nd architects, Junction-based Nicholson Kovalchick, prepared a full “packet” which is still available online and yielded the drawings we are using below for the “then” part of the then/now comparisons.

More than two years later, the project is back on the front burner, with a new architect, JBDG, and a new development partner, ConAm. Though the formal application revision has not been published for public comment until now, city documents indicate the change to 135 apartments has long been in the works, as that number is cited in the developer’s application for the city’s Multi-Family Tax Exemption program, mentioned in a January document (the City Council took up the application in March).

The city file we reviewed on Friday indicates that the developer considers the changes “minor revisions” – one document includes advice from the assigned city planner on tweaks to make to preserve the classification.

Here are the then-and-now renderings. IMPORTANT: Keep in mind that the “now” drawings are iPhone photos of drawings pulled from a file in which they had been kept folded for weeks, so there’s a crease – if the architect supplies electronic versions, we will substitute those. (Also note that after the then/now visuals, we have some additional information about the project, from the downtown files.)

EAST SIDE OF PROJECT (on the alley between 42nd and 41st)
Winter 2008-2009:

Current version (sorry, the fold from the DPD files is particularly notable here):

WEST SIDE OF PROJECT (fronting 42nd)
Winter 2008-2009:

Current version:

NORTH SIDE OF PROJECT (fronting Oregon)
Winter 2008-2009:

Current version:

One other view, from the current hard-copy documents, is a close-up of the entryway along 42nd SW:

This is notable because according to documents in the project file downtown, the entry is now 24 feet south of where it would have been, and will mark the separation between the 2,900 square feet of retail (on the northwest corner of the building) and the residential area.

Other notes: The building’s height is described as “a maximum of 79 feet to the top of the elevator tower.” Its “gross total floor area” has increased from 149,020 to 158,349 square feet. The roof deck has been revised to include “P-Patch” planter boxes and a pet-service area. The proposed building schedule would have the project complete in January 2013.

As is usual for these projects, the file also contains some back-and-forth between the developers and the city planner, who had asked for a “correction” after observing this change: “Reviewing the elevations of the revised drawings, I recall that on the north facade, we discussed preserving the vertical gasket comprised mostly of glazing that separated the two major frames that drive the composition. I’m wondering what happened. It appears that the spandrels are much thicker than the approved drawings.”

Again, the project team plans to discuss it with interested community members at a meeting June 15th, 6 pm, Senior Center of West Seattle (California/Oregon). There are no required public meetings remaining regarding the project, as it had received Design Review approval previously, and it has not been suggested that these changes would require reopening that process.

12 Replies to "New views of 42nd/Oregon project, & more time to comment"

  • DF June 6, 2011 (5:12 pm)

    WHAT A NIGHTMARE!! EEEEECCCKKK!~(

  • out for a walk June 6, 2011 (9:28 pm)

    Tracy, you are incredible… getting these facts and photos. Thank you. (looks like the facade is too stark and cold for me… needs some set backs, softening,landscaping and some artwork in my opinion

  • Wet June 6, 2011 (9:32 pm)

    I am usually for density, but there are so many empty apartments around the Junction. Do we really need this now?

  • Brontosaurus June 7, 2011 (12:29 am)

    It looks bloody ugly to me.

  • Diane June 7, 2011 (12:37 am)

    Thank you TR for going far beyond the call of duty; why oh why would they NOT release the drawings prior to the meeting? they must be new here, and just made a lot of extra work for you for no good reason; don’t they know you are super woman, and if the info & drawings are accessible for public, that you would get it all and post for us to see asap?
    ~
    btw, I just received my notice from DPD in the mail today re this project, with deadline for comment listed as June 15; hopefully EVERYONE now reads the blog for the latest and most accurate info on pretty much everything, so they’ll know from this story about the presentation on June 15, and about the extended comment deadline of June 29

    • WSB June 7, 2011 (12:49 am)

      I did get a message from the architect late in the afternoon and it sounded like he might make something available. We were at Don Armeni covering the mayor/SPD newser, so I couldn’t call, but e-mailed back, and we’ll see what happens today (Tuesday). As for above-and-beyond, I was downtown anyway on Friday afternoon for the Viaduct “ahead of schedule” announcement and had expected originally to go from there to the hearing on ‘The Hole’ that turned out to be canceled because of the reported settlement. (That paperwork still hasn’t been filed with the court, by the way, so no word yet on its details …) Was going to look up another project’s documents too but ran out of time, as DPD closes its doors at 4 pm on Fridays … TR

  • Peter on Fauntleroy June 7, 2011 (8:09 am)

    If they built it to look like the iPhone pictures it would be damn cool looking building!

  • sun*e June 7, 2011 (9:12 am)

    The more residential places such as this are built, the more I worry about the impact this will have on our commute out of West Seattle. How many apartment buildings need to be built before DPD recognizes that improvements need to be made to our transportation before they approve these residential projects? Talk about an anxiety creator – adding more people to the already packed commute will only make it so much worse and, at this point, I really don’t see how it could possibly ever get better. :(

  • sun*e June 7, 2011 (9:20 am)

    …and this just in on FB from WSB:
    “We’re hearing the reports that traffic is worse than usual this morning. Apparently there is a problem on I-5 somewhere far north that is backing everyone up everywhere.”
    31 minutes ago
    .
    …and this just in on the WS Blog:
    West Seattle traffic alert: Heading east is almost impossible –
    “More than a few WSB’ers have sent word it’s impossible out there this morning.”
    .
    Let’s just go ahead and add more people/commuters out of WS to this and I reiterate – “Talk about an anxiety creator!”

  • good for the Junction June 7, 2011 (9:50 am)

    This looks like a pretty nice deisgn. The junction retial businesses dont make a ton of money. Having more people who live close by, helps a great deal. Because they’ve already gone thru the DRB process, they actually don’t have any requirements to do any public meetings,at least they’re reaching out.

  • Deeno June 7, 2011 (9:43 pm)

    Encouraging news for architects related to this and other projects in our village. College tuition rates have gone way up, most incoming freshman can’t afford to attend. Now there will be more room for all of you to advance past the 3 point perspective box drawings required in the first quarter of architectural school.
    .
    Do us all a favor. Re-attend. This time go to all your classes and don’t forget to take the requirement known as ‘designing for existing neighborhood integrity.’ Once learned, maybe you can impart some of your newly discovered skills to DPD so it can actually advise you in an intelligent way instead of relying on the rubber stamp.
    .
    Seattle is a naturally beautiful place with a townful of buildings that do not do it justice. This is another sad example. Along with the proposed Conner project and the amorphous unfinished whatever at the corner of 35th and Avalon, plus many others, this has become a race to the bottom. Have some pride for cryin’ out loud!
    .
    Your works should inspire and welcome, not frighten and intimidate. Remember, the tenants are mostly on the inside looking out, the rest of us have to endure the exterior.

  • melissa June 17, 2011 (7:56 am)

    I am very concerned about the height of this development. The site sits on a high point of land. Single family homes in neighboring area’s will be impacted with this as the view. It may be great for those new residence who move into these new apartments, but I think of West Seattle as a single family residential community not another South Lake Union. What about the visual impact to the rest of us?

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