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July 8, 2010 at 10:39 pm #595474
kamranistanMemberI am thinking about getting an A/C unit. Not too sure about what the best buys are. Who are some good A/C service people? Southwest? Beacon Plumbing?
July 8, 2010 at 10:59 pm #698593
pamMemberHow about Fry’s and getting a mobile unit?
July 8, 2010 at 11:11 pm #698594
kamranistanMemberHow much are those? And what is the price difference?
July 8, 2010 at 11:15 pm #698595
johnnyblegsMemberBuying an A/C for one, sometimes two weeks out of the year? Just get some fans. It’ll save you some cash.
July 8, 2010 at 11:47 pm #698596
saneyMemberi bought a portable unit from walmart.com 3 years ago. it was $300. best $300 i ever spent. it keeps my bedroom nice and cool. it also has a dehumidifyer function for those muggy days. can also be used as a fan.
it doesnt really raise my electric bill since i just use it at night. the great thing is that it has a timer. i can set it to turn on whenever i want. also, if it is running, you can set the timer to turn off (like in the middle of the night once you fall asleep).
July 8, 2010 at 11:58 pm #698597
cjboffoliParticipantI had a LG mini-split system installed a couple of years ago (by Pacific NW Energy Service) and I love it. My 3 year-old house has forced hot water radiant heating so there was no existing duct work for a new A/C system to piggy back on to (unless I wanted to drop $20K to install ductwork). The mini-split system was a great solution because it required no ducts. They essentially put a heat exchanger outside and one (or more) cooling units on a wall inside the house. A simple conduit on the outside of the house carries electricity, a refrigerant line and a condensation line. A wireless remote runs the whole show inside. Granted, the mini-split system is much more expensive than one of those boxy window units. But what it does offer is that it is super-quiet (inside and out) and super-efficient. Even in the hottest summer months I can barely see a difference in my electric bill. It also means I don’t lose the use of a window. It also doesn’t create a security risk that a burglar might try to exploit.

This is the heat exchanger box on the outside. They can install it on a cement pad on the ground. But for my project they mounted it up on the side of the house.

And this is the inside part. If I recall correctly it is a 18,000 BTU unit. But they have more powerful units as needed. Mine will cool 1,800 square feet easily. The A/C guys came out and measured everything, including window area to calculate heat gain.
When it isn’t running the air grilles at the bottom slide closed so it is nothing but a solid panel. This model is from LG’s “Art Cool” line. If you’re averse to having a box up on your wall they even have some systems that are built to hide behind a large picture frame.
I’ve seen other systems in use across Asia from a range of manufacturers (LG, Mitsubishi, Sanyo, etc.) and they all seem to work the same way with the same efficiency.
I highly recommend!
July 9, 2010 at 12:00 am #698598
BlendParticipantit’s good to sweat. detoxes the body and stuff.
July 9, 2010 at 12:15 am #698599
dhgParticipantIT IS good to sweat. But not when I’m trying to sleep!
July 9, 2010 at 1:23 am #698600
wsgolferMemberCJB, would you be comfortable sharing how much that set you back? Looks like a pretty sweet setup, and in my experience, pretty effective.
July 9, 2010 at 1:39 am #698601
KevinParticipantkamranistan – FORGET about some of the larger companies you mentioned – do some internet research and you may have second thoughts on some of them.
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We just got an estimate for a 2K square foot house from a good friend who is a licensed heating and cooling contractor and his price was around $5000.
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Expect to pay considerably more going through some of the larger outfits. The same friend suggests window mount AC units as being much more cost effective than central air – considering how short our hot weather usually is. He also said not to wait much longer if you want a window unit.
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I will be happy to share the name of my friend if you are serious about getting central air.
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July 9, 2010 at 1:48 am #698602
cjboffoliParticipantwsgolfer: My recollection was that it was just north of $7K installed, which includes the cost of the electricians. So obviously even though it is whisper quiet and barely uses any electricity to run, throwing a $300 window unit is going to be a LOT cheaper, if less elegant, in the short term.
It is worth noting that, because it is technically a heat exchanger, you can throw a switch on this unit and use it as a primary heating system in the winter if needed. Though I’m told it works somewhat less efficiently (in terms of power consumption) as a heater.
That price was in May of 2007 before the housing market took a dive. So I expect you might get a better deal now than I did. I’ve seen prices on the Net for the same unit I have, exclusive of installation, for $3500.
I also remember getting 3 or 4 bids and that there maybe was a lower bid than the one I went with. But PNW Energy impressed me as being conversant in aesthetics as well as mechanics.
I think a lot of Seattlites still have a problem with the notion of having air conditioning. But the summers have been getting ever hotter here for a long time now. There are certainly significantly more than just “a couple weeks” of hot days. My Modernist house has a lot of commercial glass windows and a southern exposure which means that 65 degree sunny days can mean 80 degrees inside. Great in the winter. Not so fun in the summer.
This system was expensive but it was worth it for me. And I think it will definitely add value at resale time.
July 9, 2010 at 3:30 am #698603
pamMemberWe got a window unit at a garage sale a few years ago for $25 – it is so nice on the days when it is like this! We don’t have many scorchers but when we do…. life goes on and sleep is important to me.
July 9, 2010 at 6:46 am #698604
wsgolferMemberThanks for the details, CJB! Seems like a worthwhile investment.
July 9, 2010 at 6:12 pm #698605
raindance42MemberAnyone on a real tight budget (and/or renters who can’t get A/C installed) might want to consider picking up a tower fan or two. Costco has a really nice model for about $50. It’s not A/C, but this is seriously the best fan I’ve ever had.
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