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February 18, 2009 at 12:43 am #657690
BarbGMemberalki, are you trying to tell me that people going fast, which from what I can tell from what you said is not speeding, or speeding is not going fast, I guess I’m confused at your logic. But you go ahead and think that fast and speeding are two different things.
February 18, 2009 at 9:48 am #657691
alki_2008ParticipantBarbG – last time…here’s what I’m saying is my opinion…rather that telling you what a word means as an absolute, as you did in your first comment to me.
What I said was that “Speeding” does not equal “Fast”.
…Speeding is objective (if you’re over the speed limit, then you’re “speeding”).
…Fast is subjective (you can be over or under the speed limit and be “fast” depending on weather and road conditions).
Does that make it clearer?
Personally, I would rather the cops spend their time on “fast”, dangerous, aggressive drivers in multiple areas of the city…rather than just “speeders” in one specific location. Or maybe they’re really looking for folks driving with one hand while holding their cell phones to their ears with the other. That would be good.
Thank you for approving of my continuing to think that speeding and fast are two different things. G’nite.
February 18, 2009 at 3:44 pm #657692
JoBParticipantalki_2008..
the [police seldom target an area for speed enforcement unless there are a large number of accidents or citizen complaints.
someone was going too fast.. any way you look at it.. or they wouldn’t be there.
February 18, 2009 at 5:27 pm #657693
StringCheeseParticipantDoes anyone know where to get the stats on accidents on this stretch of road? I have exhausted my google and seattle.gov search without luck. I would be very surprised to see many non-weather-related accidents on this hill. I believe they do indeed target it because a steep-arse hill is a great source of revenue. It takes 3-4 SECONDS to go from 30 to 50 on this hill without ever even looking at the gas pedal AND tapping the brakes.
February 18, 2009 at 5:56 pm #657694
JoBParticipantif you drive the hill and know the difficulty of staying under the speed limit… it would probably be good idea to stay extra aware to avoid getting a ticket.
if not.. thanks for subsidizing our police protection.
i hope it keeps property taxes down:)
February 18, 2009 at 7:02 pm #657695
JulieMemberI would like to know what percent of the speeders ticketed by the police are also cited for cell-phone use, for which they cannot be stopped (as it’s a secondary offense), but for which they can be cited if they are stopped for speeding.
February 18, 2009 at 7:24 pm #657696
CMPParticipantOnce again SDOT proves that common sense isn’t factored into how speed limits for certain stretches of road are determined. You can go on and on about how it’s calculated by the slope of the hill, but give me a break. There are very few parked cars, intersections, pedestrians or homes along the east side of Admiral or on Highland Park Drive, yet the speed limit is lower than what it is on 35th or Fauntleroy. Accidents are caused by inattentive or stupid people…a speed limit isn’t going to solve that problem.
February 18, 2009 at 10:20 pm #657697
JoBParticipantCMP..
by definition, isn’t someone who is caught speeding either inattentive or stupid ???
February 19, 2009 at 12:07 am #657698
beachdrivegirlParticipantis that a joke that i am missing?
if someone knowingly speeds that doesnt make them inattentive or stupid.
February 19, 2009 at 12:17 am #657699
JenVMemberno, getting CAUGHT means you’re inattentive. That means you’re not paying attention to where the cops are hiding. I disagree with the ‘stupid’ part.
February 19, 2009 at 2:28 am #657700
JoBParticipantyou could be stupid enough to believe that you won’t get caught…
i know i felt pretty stupid the day i was caught by a speed trap i knew was sometimes there. I thought i had checked and they weren’t there.. they were using an unmarked car i hadn’t seen before:(
pretty stupid on my part to push my luck.
i paid the ticket without comment.
February 19, 2009 at 4:26 am #657701
CMPParticipantI was referring to accidents, not speeding. There are far too many stupid people at the DOT using computer models to dictate how people should drive when it should be based on common sense. And the DMV should reevaluate who gets a driver’s license as well. But back to the point of the original post: it’s pretty crappy to get a ticket at the bottom of a hill but if people actually looked more than 20 feet ahead of them while driving, they might actually see that speed trap up ahead.
February 19, 2009 at 5:55 am #657702
JoBParticipantCMP…
if most people drove with common sense we wouldn’t be having this conversation… because it is just plain common sense to notice what is around you…
and as you said.. if they just looked 20 ft ahead they would see the speed trap.
careful, attentive, defensive drivers seldom get caught in speed traps.
February 23, 2009 at 8:05 pm #657703
anonymeParticipantI live on I-35 south of Roxbury, where the speed limit is 30 mph. Average speeds exceed 40 mph, and often go quite a bit higher. 36 mph in a 30 mph zone is unacceptable; the danger and the noise generated by an additional 5-10 mph is exponential. When the speed limit is actually enforced on this busy street, the noise is almost tolerable. Residents and homeowners in this area would LOVE to have your “speed trap” in place. Hell, we’ll even supply the Krispy Kremes. Send ’em on over.
February 23, 2009 at 8:47 pm #657704
datamuseParticipantIt seems to me that I’ve encountered a lot less speeding, tailgating, and weaving on Highland Park Way recently. Think it maybe worked?
February 23, 2009 at 9:12 pm #657705
inactiveMemberI’ve seen single Chargers twice last week, setting up shop around 4:30 pm and picking them off one after another during rush hour. (around the school zone btw, on 9th between Henderson and Elmgrove – going both directions).
I’d have to say more peeps are likely paying attention, for sure. But, there are still numbnuts out there who will never get a clue.
February 23, 2009 at 10:09 pm #657706
AnonymousInactiveThat would be an appropriate location. Residential. Pedestrians. School zone. My complaint revolved solely around the hiding at the bottom of a steep hill where none of those things applied. And again, not promoting speeding and/or reckless driving. Just in favor of optimizing the limited resources where they can be of most benefit to residents.
February 24, 2009 at 12:14 am #657707
Sky2625MemberCan we get a Passive Drivers Response Team to hang out on Delridge, and make sure drivers are driving UP TO the speed limit? I seem to get stuck behind an awful lot of 25 MPH feather-foots.
I apologize pre-emptively if this wasn’t the best place to insert some humor… :)
February 24, 2009 at 12:40 am #657708
flowerpetalMemberDon’t apologize Sky2625. After 67 posts its high time we added some humor to the topic. It seems that there is some unwritten natural law that the posts end in humor (thankfully).
March 8, 2009 at 10:56 am #657709
thermoParticipantI think the SPD should setup a low speed trap for all those that drive under the posted speed limit. I’m constantly annoyed by people driving 25mph on Fauntleroy when it is clearly posted at 35mph. And, before you get on me about speed, it’s the posted limit, and impeding traffic by driving slow is a ticketable offense. Code of Washington 46.61.425:
March 8, 2009 at 10:57 am #657710
thermoParticipant“You may not impede the normal flow of traffic except in times of poor road conditions or when it is necessary for safety,” State Patrol Trooper Christina Martin said. “If a roadway has a posted minimum speed limit then we would be able to issue an infraction for driving below the speed limit.”
State law requires a slow-moving vehicle to move right to allow vehicles to pass when there is a line of five or more vehicles behind it.
The fine for driving too slow or failing to move to the right is $124, Martin said.
March 8, 2009 at 3:54 pm #657711
rockhillsMemberSince we seem to be moving in this direction, I’ll add: it would also be nice to see a little more enforcement, or at least education, on the “slower traffic keep right” law. In places where this law is enforced, traffic flows much, much better on the freeways. And no, I’m not referring to I-35 :)
March 11, 2009 at 10:24 pm #657712
LexMemberI love it. Good for you SPD. Feel free to start doing the same on 18th ave sw and Myrtle check out the idiots that speed near the elementary schoo. If you follow the law and speed limit you have no reason to complain. for those of you complaining about slow drivers. Thank them for keeping you safe, because in your hurry to get to God knows where because you didnt plan your schedule accordingly they might have stopped you from harming yourself or worse someone else. In a hurry leave 30 min before you ahve to get some place so yu don’t have to hurry or go the speed limit. just be patient.
March 18, 2009 at 5:33 am #657713
AnonymousInactiveYou all should be glad that SPD is conducting these operations; you or someone you are close to could easily be involved in a vehicular incident.
I wish they did this on a much larger scale and more frequently. Then maybe people would start paying attention instead of doing everything except driving.
lol@tagging this post with “police state”. Smells like Alex Jones was here.
March 27, 2009 at 10:30 pm #657714 -
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