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July 3, 2014 at 5:23 pm #810363
wakefloodParticipantNo question. It’s interesting to note that these guys saw this process as an investment. That’s why they were disciplined enough to play the long con.
They saw an opportunity to turn millions into billions and billions into trillions and all of it whilst owning the political/judicial systems.
Which always makes me laugh/yell when they get all thin-skinned and wail about being attacked when being called out on their ploy.
It no longer matters when the king is shown to have no clothes. He’s been wandering around naked since Reagan and most Americans are either too tired, busy, disconnected or disenfranchised to get into the streets to fight it.
They’ve been running a jihad on the lowdown since the 70’s. It’s going to take a jihad to break it down.
July 3, 2014 at 6:14 pm #810364
wakefloodParticipantBurke’s quote applies here, methinks:
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
Or maybe we need a tweak to make it apply more accurately? “…that good men don’t conspire to prevent it.”
July 3, 2014 at 8:28 pm #810365
wakefloodParticipantI’m tired of the money politic dynamic. I’m ok with fighting fire with fire. Using the system to break it.
I’m supporting this: https://mayday.us/
July 3, 2014 at 8:57 pm #810366
skeeterParticipantWakeflood I don’t know if this organization is good or not. But you *know* that gifts to your buddy skeeter go to a good cause. Any money you give me will be spent at either Matador or Elliot Bay Brewing. And unlike that website, I provide proof. I’ll send you a picture of me enjoying a frothy brew. Just something to think about…
July 3, 2014 at 9:16 pm #810367
wakefloodParticipantGood to know, Skeets. I’ll go check the penny jar this weekend. Might be enough for a couple pints?? ;-)
July 3, 2014 at 10:50 pm #810368
elikapekaParticipantSmitty,
FYI, some plans do cover gym memberships. For example, Medicare Advantage plans all cover memberships at certain fitness facilities under a program called Silver Sneakers.
There appears to be a misconception by otherwise apparently intelligent people that a woman’s uterus is a separate entity totally unrelated to anything else that goes on in her body. Let me assure you that this is not correct. Pregnancy can affect a woman’s health in various ways. Many women have congenital anomalies that make pregnancy dangerous, even life threatening, or make it impossible to carry a baby to term. Some women (and their male partners) have genetic traits that can have devastating consequences to any children conceived, and make the choice (with the advice of their physician, not their boss) to avoid pregnancy. Birth control is most definitely a medical and health care issue. So please stop with the red herrings.
July 4, 2014 at 12:46 am #810369
JanSParticipantelikapeka…now, now…an article I saw today said that most women (single ones, at that – you know…sluts) mainly use birth control for recreational purposes. :-
So, just go by condoms…they’re over the counter. First, shouldn’t they be telling the MEN to buy the damned condoms?…and consider the source…men, some very old, who only ever engage in sex to procreate once or twice….they’d NEVER indulge in sex for recreational purposes, or sex for fun…<sarcasm>
July 4, 2014 at 12:55 am #810370
JanSParticipantwake, the floodgates are open…the slippery slope has been greased big time, and is now becoming a cliff. I want to know if, in the future, as these cases of “religious infringment” come in front of the SC, will Scotus be doing research as to whether the religion claims are legit, or will they just accept these people at their word? Already, the head of Eden Foods is being questioned as a legit claim, as he has made statements that are a bit iffy. A meme on Facebook has popped up…war is against my religion…can I have my 3 Trillion back?
I find myself being very emotional towards this turn of events…scared, infuriated, mindboggled…at Scotus, and the GOP comments, at ignorance and uneducation(is that a word? no? I just made it one!). But..will we the people speak up? November will be here before we know it…and this tea party needs to be ended…move on to full fledged hard liquor!!
July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm #810371
JTBParticipantThere is review and discussion of the Hobby Lobby decision at Scotusblog featuring numerous articles by constitution law experts. One points out that the ruling wrongly reverses the conventional relationship of shareholders to a corporation. The corporation exists in large part to separate or isolate the shareholders from the business entity which thereby affords them protection from the financial and legal misfortunes the corporation may sustain. Roberts flips that around by asserting the Hobby Lobby shareholders are not separate from the conduct of the corporation and therefore their religious sensibilities are offended in conflict with the RFRA. Constructionist? Nope.
July 4, 2014 at 4:02 pm #810372
waynsterParticipantAnd now a new twist to this sad real sad…..
July 7, 2014 at 4:15 pm #810373
wakefloodParticipantJTB: “Constructionist? Nope.” Undoubtedly. Pretzel? Yup.
And as was noted, these guys played the long con well because they had discipline and the comfort of knowing they could spend their copious leisure time making deals and grinding the plan out on the golf courses and their yachts while the rest of us bustled to keep food on the table.
They took Margaret Mead’s quote literally and worked it for a generation and now they’re gonna’ protect it for as long as they can with their money and power. This will not end well.
“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it’s the only thing that has.”
Time for us to follow suit and turn the tables…
July 7, 2014 at 4:34 pm #810374
JTBParticipantIn a very related note, billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife died last Friday. He and Joseph Coors bankrolled numerous right-wing think tanks and conservative causes throughout the 70’s and 80’s setting an example for like-minded members of the ruling class. His wealth was largely inherited and his uncle ran most of the family business. Scaife was noted additionally for funding the long campaign against the Clinton’s, from the Vince Foster suicide, through Whitewater, Paula Jones and finally the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Somehow, this single example shines light on the wisdom of Thomas Piketty’s call for meaningful wealth and inheritance taxes as well as the numerous observations about the inequality achieved by wealth buying political influence.
July 7, 2014 at 5:35 pm #810375
wakefloodParticipantScaife funded the playbook created by the likes of Atwater and Norquist and good riddance to him. But as you say, undoubtedly a significant chunk of the estate’s fortune will fund the think tanks for many years to come.
And there’s always the Kochs and Adelson pulling up the trucks to dump untold millions into the machine.
Which is why I’m supporting Mayday. And I hope each and every one of us on EITHER side, who thinks money has bought our gov’t, does so as well.
July 7, 2014 at 7:54 pm #810376
JanSParticipantyes, another Daily Kos article…but reading it was…umm…interesting…it’s a question that has come into my mind a few times – lol…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/03/1311481/-Do-Republican-men-ever-have-sex?detail=email
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