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April 21, 2014 at 6:55 pm #611101
wakefloodParticipantWell, if the number of signs posted is any indication (and I sincerely hope it’s not) Prop 1 isn’t popular around these here parts – and some others.
Witness the oh, I stopped counting at 100, “NO on #1” signs at every major intersection in WS and you’ll get the feeling that someone with serious $ and time on their hands is working hard to screw with our transit future.
Wonder how much they spent on printing those things?
Why do these people hate their neighbors? And if they hate them so much, why do they want to sit next to them everyday in traffic???
April 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm #807233
wakefloodParticipantOh, and for reference, I suspect the major reason you don’t see “YES on #1” signs is because publicly-funded entities like Metro aren’t allowed to spend $ on election materials – like signage.
So, you have to find person(s) with deep pockets to spend the $ to have the signs printed and some way to distribute them.
It’s easy to find folks with $ who are willing to spend their $ on any anti-tax initiative. Look how nicely compensated Eyeman is for his schlock. Not so much the inverse.
April 21, 2014 at 7:44 pm #807234
Alki WarriorParticipantI voted YES!!
April 21, 2014 at 7:50 pm #807235
skeeterParticipantWake, if you think about it, the “no” supporters are pretty smart to target West Seattle. Most folks here support transportation. So by spending the $$ here, they are potentially reaching the largest audience of those whose minds might be changed.
If it makes you feel better, and it probably won’t, but I know of at least one (mostly) conservative (mostly) republican voter in West Seattle who voted yes for prop 1.
April 21, 2014 at 8:05 pm #807236
wakefloodParticipantSkeets, I wish I could say that I think they’re targeting WS, as you suggest. Judging from the amount of signs I’ve seen in places like Mercer Island, and other non-WS neighborhoods, I don’t think they “targeted” anything.
They had the $ to carpet bomb the county.
April 21, 2014 at 11:27 pm #807237
WSBKeymasterWake – Actually there are deep pockets on the yes side. Maybe not as deep … I don’t know who exactly is on “no.” But we have received a “yes” postcard EVERY SINGLE DAY for about a week at home. Unions and an outdoor advertising company are three of the sponsors listed.
It goes straight to the recycling bin; mail advertising is a huge waste of money, paper, and gas, but don’t get me started.. For the past two days, though, those bold navy blue and white NO ON PROP 1 signs have been in my face for miles along Fauntleroy, California, 35th. Will that change anyone’s vote? Who knows. But they’re cheaper than mail, I am pretty sure. Someone made a clear decision. We’ll know soon enough.
Whichever side you support, VOTE! That is one thing we wholeheartedly back …
Tracy
April 22, 2014 at 12:05 am #807238
wakefloodParticipantYeah, both drive me crazy, Tracy. To borrow a line from John Mayer…”Is there anyone who ever remembers changing their mind from the paint on a sign?”
I get about 3 pieces of non-bill related mail a month that I find useful. And I’ve tried to convert to paperless billing wherever I can and yet I’m still pulling a full recycle bin out to the curb every other week packed full of junk.
And I’ll throw a quote mashup of Frank Zappa and Egon Spengler out to the gang, “unfortunately, print isn’t dead, it just smells funny”.
April 22, 2014 at 5:10 am #807239
Seattle TrashMemberwakeflood
I highly suggest dmachoice.org, and optoutprescreen.com, and if all else fails, I call the junk mailer directly. I’m down to maybe one piece of junk mail a week, at most. I have 3-4 days a week without mail now, unless I’m quickly cycling through my Netflix. It’s quite lovely. Took time and diligence to get there, but those two sites were an amazing start! I also don’t vote for anyone who sends me junk mail :-)
I hear in France they have a sticker or sign you can put on your mailbox that indicates you don’t want junk mail. That would be fantastic.
April 22, 2014 at 5:46 pm #807240
wakefloodParticipantThanks, ST. I’ll be checking those out. I’d heard of them before but had lost track before I got around to doing it!
April 22, 2014 at 7:00 pm #807241
JanSParticipant2 different post cards, both for “yes”, on Saturday. I had already voted, in the recycle they went. I never pay attention to them
April 22, 2014 at 8:06 pm #807242
Alki WarriorParticipantI voted YES for everything. Yaaaaaay West Seattle rawks!
April 22, 2014 at 8:10 pm #807243
datamuseParticipantI haven’t seen a single flyer in my mail for or against. Did both sides just ignore Highland Park?
April 22, 2014 at 10:48 pm #807244
WSBKeymasterDM, I haven’t heard of nor seen any “no” postcards. Just “yes.” (So, if there were “no” postcards, they ignored Gatewood/Fauntleroy.)
April 23, 2014 at 8:53 am #807245
HMC RichParticipantI didn’t know I hated my neighbors Wake? Who knew. What a surprise. Metro was holding back better than expected revenue numbers and they were still going to go ahead with major cuts but the Seattle Times busted them.
I don’t know what is wrong with Metro. But, it seems the King County Council needs to hire some “experts” preferably not Monorail experts, and come up with some better viable solutions.
Obviously, cutting the wages of the drivers and other staff is NOT an option. Plus, Seattle is a caring town and needs to look at helping the elderly and others out. But, it needs to take a machete to the waste and make it more efficient.
My two cents from an uninformed twice a year bus rider.
April 23, 2014 at 1:37 pm #807246
JoBParticipantHMCRich
the waste that Seattle will take a machette to is the bus lines that people who actually ride the bus depend on…
the Seattle Times said it all… 550,000 bus trips
some of which will affect your neighbors.
One of the hardest hit will be the High Point elderly…
but heck.. they don’t need bus service
you’ll be volunteering to push their wheelchairs..
right?
April 23, 2014 at 2:13 pm #807247
wakefloodParticipantAh, the tax scolds and “efficiency experts” have big smiles on their faces again today. Hope they enjoyed doing their part to make the region less livable, for everyone, but especially those who are already on the margins.
Nicely done.
April 23, 2014 at 5:59 pm #807248
JanSParticipantlove how “twice a year” bus riders seem to think they are experts on the subject.
April 23, 2014 at 7:40 pm #807249
mpentoParticipantI think HMC Rich was expressing their opinion and put it in the context of how often they ride the bus, which seems reasonable to me. I don’t see that they presented themselves as an expert? But I have not been following the proposition threads at all. I was just hoping that we could switch to an underground metro system once the tunnel digging bugs are worked out. Oh and I am not an expert in this area either.
April 23, 2014 at 8:03 pm #807250
funkietooParticipantI voted ‘Yes’, even though I don’t use the bus on a regular basis. Why yes? Providing public transportation is a social [justice] issue; a ‘liveable city’ issue; an environmental issue; etc.
This ‘no’ vote is going to hit a lot of people very hard. Those that depend on bus service to get to and from work, let alone for personal endeavors, are going to have less efficient choices and spend much more time transferring between buses in order to get where they need to go.
For instance: Have a friend that lives near the U-district. To get to work at Northgate, he has to ride the bus to downtown Seattle, then transfer to another bus to Northgate. It’s a 1 1/2 hour commute each way. Most likely, these type of long commutes are going to become more frequent.
But like I heard a ‘no’ voter say last night, ‘if bus riders don’t want to spend more time on the bus, then they should just buy a car’. I just looked at him/her and said nothing.
April 23, 2014 at 8:22 pm #807251
wakefloodParticipantAnd idiots like that only embolden other slightly less vocal idiots. At some point, you have to confront stupidity if it actually interferes with people’s well-being or quality of life. I’m not saying you needed to respond, funkie, but I’m trying to not let stuff like that go unchallenged.
I will try to be civil but some of these folks couldn’t reason their way out of a wet paper bag and it impacts us all.
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