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  • #754504

    redblack
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    what’s glaringly obvious is that that poll accounts for 2/3 of the respondents. where is the other 1/3?

    whatsa matter? don’t like the fact that some people are okay with the way things are going, but don’t “strongly approve?”

    people are more nuanced than that.

    #754505

    dobro
    Participant

    Let me repeat my other question that no one has addressed…do you think Mitt was the best candidate the Repubs could have put forward this year? Yes, I know he’s the one that ran so you have to go with that, but do you think there’s an R person that would have been a better candidate?

    #754506

    dobro
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    #754507

    kootchman
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    If those that chose to run, no, I hoping for a Cain train. However, he is the best of those that chose to run, Ya just can;t draft em dobro. That;s why we had a primary. The Democrats could have come up with a better one too. Hilary would have cleaned Obama’s clock.

    New Fox Poll

    Republican Mitt Romney holds a slim edge over President Obama in a head-to-head matchup, a Fox News poll released Thursday shows. In addition, the poll finds the president’s job rating has dropped to its lowest point of the year.

    In a presidential matchup, Romney tops Obama by 46-44 percent if the election were today.

    As with every Romney-Obama matchup in the past six months, the race is so tight that it is within the poll’s margin of sampling error. This, however, is only the second time the Fox News poll shows Romney on top. The first time was November 2011, when he was also up by 2 percentage points.

    More Republicans (42 percent) than Democrats (32 percent) or independents (34 percent) say they are “extremely” interested in the upcoming presidential election,

    I’d swirl those tea leaves again…. and do a two out of three. So farm Rasmussen has been more accurate than Gallup and Fox…

    Most Americans — 67 percent — are unhappy with the direction of the country. About a third of voters (32 percent) say they are satisfied with the way things are going today

    That means over 2/3 of the country are unhappy with the direction of incumbent. Since voting women constitute 51,8 per cent of the electorate… a female block does not overcome a 14 per cent against Obama in male population.

    Personally, I don’t even think it will be close. The electoral college is going red. Obama ran and won on ” I will be the president of all Americans, red and blue”…. and he sure hasn’t been that.

    “Among voters who say the economy is “extremely” important, Romney has a 55-37 percent advantage over Obama, and a 62-29 percent edge among those who say the same of the federal deficit. “

    It’s the economy…. he can fudge all he wants, create new job statistics. including “hypothetical” one he thinks he saved.. a number conveniently not verifiable.. his base has suffered the most… and being dead ass broke with no job… that keeps people in pajamas and not voting.

    #754508

    JoB
    Participant

    kootch..

    hmmm… a FOX poll…

    done right after the latest round of attack ads…

    yup.. that’ll show them.

    #754509

    redblack
    Participant

    i think we hit a nerve.

    #754510

    dobro
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    Here’s the latest TEA party endorsement from RW website Free Republic. Pretty emphatic…

    “FR will never support the abortionist, homosexualist, socialist, mandate loving, constitution trampling liar Mitt Romney. In case you haven’t noticed, a TEA Party rebellion is on and Free Republic signed on years ago. There is no turning back. No more crap from the GOP-e!! They’ve screwed us for the last time!! Karl Rove and Mitt Romney, et al, loathe conservatism and loathe the tea party and took it upon themselves to use their money and connections to destroy nearly every one of our conservative tea party candidates while pushing their big government RINOS.

    “That makes them the enemy. I will not reward that betrayal by giving them my support or my vote. FR is and will remain a pro-life, pro-limited government conservative site!! We are beholden to NO ONE!! We bow to no kings!! We bow to NO RINOS!! I’d rather fight and die like a man than bend over and be screwed by a RINO!! I refuse to kiss Karl Rove or Mitt Romney’s rings!! They can kiss my rosy red ass instead!! FUMR!! FUGOP!! Long live the rebellion!! Hope my message is clear.” – Free Republic founder Jim Robinson, telling Romney supporters to get off his site.

    #754511

    Smitty
    Participant

    “kootch..

    hmmm… a FOX poll…

    done right after the latest round of attack ads…

    yup.. that’ll show them.”

    Ah yes, the old Fox bashing, right on cue. Let me guess, your news day begins with former Clinton thug Stephanopolous and ends with a little bit of Chris and Rachel? Maybe a little NPR sprinckled in throughout the day? The problem with bashing Fox is that they only control about 5 percent of the total media market.

    #754512

    DBP
    Member

    Let me repeat my other question that no one has addressed…do you think Mitt was the best candidate the Repubs could have put forward this year?

    –Let me repeat my answer from many months ago. Romney IS the best candidate the Repubs could have put forward, simply because he is the most electable. But he’s electable for good reasons.

      –Experienced in government

      –Experienced in business

      –Amiable persona (reminds me of Bush when he speaks)

      –No recent/major scandals

      –Not too much the creature of any one interest group

    This guy is not a religious zealot or Constitutional purist. He’s a middle-of-the-roader who best epitomizes the Republican dream of every American becoming an independent businessman and getting rich – without government interference.

    dobro, the way you keep asking this question makes me think that you have an idea of who the Repubs should have put forward instead of Romney. So if that’s the case . . . tell us . . . who is it?

    –Davebro

    #754513

    dobro
    Participant

    “The problem with bashing Fox is that they only control about 5 percent of the total media market.”

    Wait a minute, according to K most everybody in America gets their news from Fox and hardly anyone watches network news anymore. Which is it?

    #754514

    dobro
    Participant

    DBP- I’m asking the question cuz I’m curious how the red staters here at WSB would answer it. You’ll notice none will. They’re going to line up behind their mandated candidate and follow their marching orders. I was just hoping someone might be honest and talk about the other possible candidates. K mentioned Cain but that’s as close as we’ve gotten.

    Since I wouldn’t vote Republican if you paid me, I don’t really think any of them are great candidates but just in a PolSci sense, I think Mitt is coming at the wrong time in history. He would have had a better shot last time but it was McCain’s turn. Being a Wall Street king at a time when the country at large is getting an idea of how much they’ve been cheated and swindled isn’t going to help him in this election.

    The only thing the Repubs are going to have is scary, scary, Obama hate, hate, Obama, America destroyer Obama. Positive message from Mitt? We’ve got to get rid of Obama! That’s it.

    #754515

    WorldCitizen
    Participant

    The problem with bashing Fox news?

    Wait…there’s a problem with it?

    #754516

    365Stairs
    Participant

    Would be interested to know the total number of people who actually make up the % in any of those so-called polls.

    It would have to be in the millions to have any real meaning…

    #754517

    kootchman
    Member

    365Stairs… you obviously do not undertand statistics or random sampling… and how a margin of error is derived from a sample size. No wonder we can’t get the left to understand basic…economics. I am betting you don’t work in manufacturing where statistical modeling for QC is used.

    Dobro… ya got it wrong…

    More people are getting their news about the upcoming election from cable television than any other source, and from Fox News more than any other cable channel, according to a POLITICO/George Washington University Battleground Poll released Monday.

    The poll found that 81 percent of those polled get their news about the midterm elections from cable channels, like Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, or their websites, compared with 71 percent from national network news channels, such as ABC, NBC or CBS, and their websites.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42738.html#ixzz1rwbee8zP

    We need Mitt now… Obama is friggin CLUELESS on matters related to economy, job creation, debt, etc…. of course we will line up behind Romney. It’s not a hard choice. Over 2/3 of the voters don’t like the direction of the country. We had a primary. we vetted, and our Party nominated Romney. Case closed.

    #754518

    kootchman
    Member

    Slam FOX as you please… one has to watch multiple sources .. but interesting.. the most balanced news report on television? Bret Baier and “Special Report”… MSNBC and Current TV have NO news format… Morning Joe comes as close as MSNBC can get to actual reporting. The more you source the more you know.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-bret-baiers-special-report-is-more-fair-to-gop-candidates-than-networks/

    My favorite headline

    Poll: Bill O’Reilly is popular, but Rachel Maddow is unknown to likely voters

    #754519

    JanS
    Participant

    I flipped to Current TV the other evening..are they serious? It just seemed so…so….amateur…lol..

    the bickering about whoever is better and more fairly balanced…CNN…MSNBC…Faux News..seems silly to me…we watch what we watch, we defend our positions, they disagree or not…and we keep doing the same. It’s choice..I may feel you’re wrong for watching Faux, you definitely feel I’m wrong for watching MSNBC…and while you may flip and watch MSNBC yourself, you don’t take it seriously, and I bet you hold your nose at times, and I bet you have a running commentary going through your head the whole time. How do I know that? Because I flip to Faux News every now and then…and it happens to me…

    #754520

    365Stairs
    Participant

    So Kman…in your apparent finite wisdom…since I am clueless…What is the sampling data to get the 67%?

    What is the margin of error?

    Did you participate in the poll?

    How many duplicate entries were posted and weeded out – because lots of same voters kept hitting the same button…I DONT LIKE OBAMA…

    Any hanging chad?

    Oh…and you must be a genius…I am not in manufacturing…

    #754521

    Smitty
    Participant

    “I think Mitt is coming at the wrong time in history. He would have had a better shot last time but it was McCain’s turn.”

    That is probably right. I backed Romney in 2008, but I am always a bit ahead of the curve!

    To answer your question, yes, Romney is the best candidate imo. His successful business career will be seen as a positive, long run(we’ve seen what a community organizer is capable of). His only weakness is his religion which the bigots in the “party of tolerance” will be intolerant of, oddly enough.

    #754522

    cadbury
    Participant

    You might call the fact that he has changed his positions on abortion, gun conrtol, health care, global warming, immigration, gay marriage etc… in order to run for president as a weakness. But I’m probably just nit picking.

    And I’m sure the evangelicals might call his faith a weakness but I don’t expect the dems to bring it up. Why would they? There is no need.

    #754523

    dobro
    Participant

    “…the bigots in the “party of tolerance” will be intolerant of, oddly enough.”

    You can keep beating that drum but everybody knows its baloney. The people that are going to be concerned about his religion are in his own party…yer pals the right wing evangelical Xtians.

    #754524

    jamminj
    Member

    “Hilary Rosen was right: Ann Romney has never worked a day in her life.”

    “In the furor, everyone seemed to forget that unpaid mothers and household work are not what the discussion is about. Republicans are not talking about how jobs for stay-at-home moms have decreased under Obama.

    They are talking about how paid work for women has suffered.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hilary-rosen-was-right-ann-romney-doesnt-speak-for-women-in-the-workforce/2012/04/13/gIQAqv3jFT_story.html

    #754525

    JoB
    Participant

    jamminj

    and what they are not pointing out is that men lost their jobs first (during the Bush presidency) because they were for the most part paid more …

    and that women lost theirs in the second wave…

    when you take a look at total job losses since the big oops they are fairly equal.

    #754526

    HMC Rich
    Participant

    Dobro, a few might, but they dislike the Liberation Theologist more that is in power now.

    Yes, many wanted Santorum but he is basically out. If Romney picks the right VP candidate, the Evangelical Christians will fall in lock step for the Republican Party. Even if he picks a mediocre candidate, they are not going to vote for the former Senator from Illinois.

    The real battle has not really started but Rosen blew it and just gave Mitt a little bounce.

    Dobro, Mitt is a good Republican choice for moderate Republicans and middle of the road people who can be swayed. He is a proven successful capitalist, successful governor, successful family man.

    There were others who decided not to run that may be more palatable to the radio listening, blog reading Conservatives. Those candidates did not run.

    The Republican voter is going to be more careful. The Republican voter is going to get behind the Republican candidate all the way. Of course there will be others who won’t but they will be a very small minority. Look at how Nader kept peeling off voters that the left would generally count their own. Look what Perot did to the right? Right wingers have learned their lesson for now. They Hope Change will happen.

    The foolish right wingers will say they won’t vote for Romney, but they will be very small. They won’t make a difference.

    And stop the racist BS you are trying to spew. We hate Obama’s policies. We see that he is a nice family man and we see he believes his views are what is needed for this country, but he is polarizing our country in many ways and we see his leadership as wrong. We see him mostly as weak. He has run out of ideas and for a campaign to swing at someone’s wife in a class warfare tactic, we see a desperate campaign.

    Oh yeah, and Romney is Rich. That is why so many of the 99% hate him.

    #754527

    JanS
    Participant

    excuse me, but Obama’s campaign did not swing at anyone’s wife. Please get that correct. Hilary Rosen IS NOT a spokesperson for Obama or the White House. She is a pundit for CNN. PERIOD. You must have been reading right wing gibberish again. That’s the only place anything was said about her working for the White House. It gets very tiresome when falsehoods are repeated over and over again, and then people start believing those falsehoods as true. I expect more than that from you, Rich.

    #754528

    JoB
    Participant

    HMCRich..

    psst…

    that former Senator from Illinois is the sitting President of the United States…

    much to my dismay i endured 8 years of a sitting president that i thought was an embarrassment to my country…

    but not once in those 8 years did i ever deny the fact that he was the President.

    “And stop the racist BS you are trying to spew. We hate Obama’s policies. We see that he is a nice family man and we see he believes his views are what is needed for this country, but he is polarizing our country in many ways and we see his leadership as wrong. We see him mostly as weak. He has run out of ideas and for a campaign to swing at someone’s wife in a class warfare tactic, we see a desperate campaign. “

    you just refuse to acknowledge him as president by calling him any name other than his rightful title.. and you think that is not divisive?

    LOL Rich.

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