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October 22, 2012 at 11:31 pm #774479
JanSParticipantwell, at least our candidate didn’t go out and buy the voting machines…the fix is in…
October 22, 2012 at 11:48 pm #774480
TanDLParticipantThis isn’t about gov’t contracts, war profiteering, debt, deficits or even Democrats. This is about our basic right to choose our represented officials. I know there’s cronyism in government and politics, but it’s deeper and more dangerous than just cronyism when voting rights are tampered with… or even have the appearance of possible impropriety. There have been questions in the past about voting machine tampering and if I remember correctly, some of those questions came out of Ohio in past elections.
IMO, Either the Romneys are idiots with an incredible lack of judgment in their millions of dollars of investments or they are so far removed from what’s right and wrong they can flaunt their investments and appearances of impropriety with impunity.
And what I’m hearing from you, Kootch is that you don’t care? You’re OK with it as long as your guy wins? I’m not OK with it on either side of any election and someone needs to raise hell until these questions are answered. I’m not OK with the little fudges in our local voter pamphlets either.
Yes, I’m in a mood today!! But good news, I’ve already voted. Bad news, I still have to listen to the drivel on the airways, toss the political crap I get in the mail and deal with political robo calls. The least they could do is find a way to shut off all the political ads from us once we’ve voted.
Now I’m going to drink some alcohol, read a book and unplug my phone for a night. Maybe I’ll be in a better mood about politics tomorrow.
October 23, 2012 at 12:15 am #774481
WorldCitizenParticipantWhy so close to election time? Why not 3 years ago?
October 23, 2012 at 12:24 am #774482
kootchmanMemberLet’s see… do you ever consider possibly, that the company is a god investment? Remember, Mitt is in a blind trust? They are not allowed to direct the allocation. You should be as much as an idiot as the Romney clan.. pretty educated, secure, accomplished family. Hope you turn out as well and make as much of a contribution to this society as they have. It’s a high hurdle.
I am fine that Mitt is is great character. Mitt has two federal agencies overseeing his income. Nary a one has cried foul to any thing of substance. I am more concerned about little fudges .. like Benghazi… where our CIC lies through his teeth and has his stooges do likewise to keep intact his image as our warrior prince… despite the lack of an “optimal” outcome. No, I really don’t care. I haven’t voted, early and incomplete, at least until the last debate. I believe most democrats could have voted 12 months ago…. with as much thought then. The only one that want to do any public flaunting of their successes are democrats.! Envy politics.
October 23, 2012 at 12:27 am #774483
JanSParticipantno, Kootch….there are a lot of good investments out there that don’t smack of possible fraud. They knew exactly what they were purchasing. It’s not the candidate, anyway, it’s his son…
October 23, 2012 at 12:28 am #774484
JanSParticipantand give us a break. You have no idea what Benghazi is about. Neither you nor I are privy to that information.
October 23, 2012 at 12:38 am #774485
TanDLParticipantGlad you at least are honest about not caring what happens to our democracy, whether all the citizens of this country get a voice or whether or not elections could be tampered with. A win by any means, eh? We used to consider that treason but now I guess it’s just business as usual.
And no… I’m not one of the great undecideds who needs to wait until the last debate. Nice try, but you can’t convince me you will be vaiting to choose your candidate after the last debate. That’s a joke! We all know who you will be voting for. Character matters to me, too. And the scales weigh more heavily on the side of Obama this year.
Great Freudian slip by the way… “do you ever consider possibly, that the company is a god investment?”
Pretty much says it all. It’s all about the money. People and principles, not so much.
October 23, 2012 at 1:09 am #774486
kootchmanMemberYes I do. I know exactly what a planned, tactical assault looks like. I have seen them, and planned them. I private in the US Army could have told you within 30 seconds. Obama got caught “spinning” a false story.. a movie? The state department has said it.. the RSS officer has been very, absolute and clear… political appearances dictated the “spin”… security and safety of personell were secondary to the Obama political agenda. Yea, that is treasonous. Not giving you glimpses into financial information you couldn’t read or understand and would have a democratic spin meister interpret for you for any meaning does not rise to treason. I haven’t voted because while I do support Romney.. there are three debates.
October 23, 2012 at 1:16 am #774487
JanSParticipantbullpucky!
October 23, 2012 at 2:53 am #774488
DBPMemberI’m concerned that anyone can “invest” in voting machines. That doesn’t seem right to me somehow. I’m also surprised to hear that anyone could even get by in this country without a picture ID. That, too, seems odd.
I might be willing to support laws tightening up on voting requirements in exchange for laws tightening up on voting machines.
Any takers?
October 23, 2012 at 3:18 am #774489
miwsParticipantInstead of investing in voting machines, maybe Tagg shoulda bought his Pop a submarine….
Mike
October 23, 2012 at 1:43 pm #774490
JoBParticipantkootch
“Sure. Protect the sanctity of the vote. Voter registrations and voter ID… protects both parties.”
individual voter fraud is miniscule…
however, there has been evidence of vote tampering in our last 3 Presidential elections .. with the machines in Ohio figuring in center stage.
Not to mention registration tampering..
“Remember, Mitt is in a blind trust? “
This is not a blind trust acquisition by Mitt..
even if his blind trust was blind.
This purchase was made by his son.
And yes, i am sure it is a good investment…
made even better if his Dad wins the election.
Kootch.. doesn’t it bother you that the United Nations considers our voting process so rife with corruption that it is sending outside monitors here? In the land of the brave and the free.. the land that was once the worldwide example of the power of democracy?
it should.
TanDL makes a point worth considering..
” A win by any means, eh? We used to consider that treason but now I guess it’s just business as usual.”
October 23, 2012 at 1:48 pm #774491
JoBParticipantkootch
following this line of logic
“security and safety of personell were secondary to the Obama political agenda.”
shouldn’t we throw those republican bums in the House and Senate who refused to allocate increased funding for security for our personnel overseas out?
When there is only so much funding to go around, you are forced to pick and choose who needs it most on a nearly daily basis.
We can start with the yahoo without a conscience who voted against funding and is now leading the witch hunt into why there wasn’t more security at Benghazi.
Best be careful trying to have this cake and eat it too. Gluttony can have unintended consequences.. like choking. This one doesn’t go down well.
October 23, 2012 at 2:52 pm #774492
JoBParticipantit seems that the conflict of interest here is not quite the issue we thought it was…
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/22/1059171/why-romney-isnt-rigging-the-voting-machines/
which does nothing to dismiss the greater concern…
the ways in which the sanctity of the American vote is being threatened.
October 23, 2012 at 6:46 pm #774493
DBPMemberIt’s pretty easy to rig a voting machine, either at the factory or at the polling place. It’s even easier to rig Internet voting, yet some states are currently making a push for that.
Both systems (electronic machines and Internet) have their advantages, but it’s a trade-off. We get increased accessibility and faster vote counts, but we sacrifice accountability and integrity of the system.
I’m not convinced that the benefits of machines and Internet voting are worth the risks. I like King County’s mail-in voting because that’s a paper-based system, where a human hand touches every ballot – even though the ballots are ultimately counted by a machine.
October 23, 2012 at 6:57 pm #774494
JoBParticipantwho can blame us for jumping to conclusions when there has been so much vote registration chicanery going on?
wait.. there is no Acorn this year
it’s not the over zealous causing a scandal
it’s too bad the Republicans didn’t learn from Acorn
Very little went wrong there
but what did should have provided a clear lesson
October 23, 2012 at 6:58 pm #774495
JoBParticipantDBP
i think the machines are fine
i am just concerned about how the results can be manipulated without a trail
October 24, 2012 at 3:17 am #774496
kootchmanMemberWell JaN still just looking for my posts? Can’t stay away eh? See post #13. No JoB… State Department has plenty of money… and those poor SEALS were on the rooftop manning a machine gun for four hours…. where was the fleet? It’s not like Libya is settled territory. Not one rapid response team in the area? This was politics, his gutless, appeasement to muslim terrorists. He won’t even say the words. It is just what it appears to be. Hell the Secret Service detail and his entourage to Vegas that afternoon was more than enough to cover the security. Way to go “campaigner in chief”… here’s a novel thought…. do like the Brits did, the Red Cross did, the UN did.. if you can’t support the security.. pull them out of harms way. After three seperate attacks, an attempt on the life of the British ambassador… ya think ya might have pulled them out? Sacrificial lambs to give the appearance “things are in hand, and everything is hunky dory normal”… they refused the request of the Ambasador, the RSS officer.. for more security. This was a punch that was telegraphed for three months. Incompetence. But I am going to bet he pops a drone or two for the crowd… couple days before the election? The man is devoid of ethics. The Brits said we can’t defend it… we said we have a rag tag buncha milita members we hired to guard our ambassador…. no money? Close the mission. That was hard.
October 24, 2012 at 3:24 am #774497
miwsParticipantOctober 24, 2012 at 3:31 am #774498
kootchmanMemberThere is no Acorn…. but the Acorn actors are like wack-a-moles… they are still around. 71 per cent of American believe in voter ID laws…. 29 per cent don’t of have no opinion. Let democracy prevail right? Red Herring stew ….. maybe the UN observers are there to prevent voter intimidation by the New Black Panther Party again? I would kick their asses out of the building .. they have no right to tamper with our political system. Since when do we sublimate our sovereign rights to that cabal of banana repuiblics? The same group who decided to give Obama the Nobel Peace prize? ha ha ha… Wow … you guys are woefully desperate.
October 24, 2012 at 3:41 am #774499
WorldCitizenParticipantKootchman = fearmongering + talking points + bubble reality
October 24, 2012 at 3:54 am #774500
dobroParticipantThe old Perfesser seems to think the UN gives out the Nobel Peace prizes.Knowing his man is gonna lose this upcoming election seems to be sending him round the bend.
October 24, 2012 at 4:14 am #774501
kootchmanMemberThe same people… see reference to wack-a-moles…. can’t see the parallel? I have no doubt this was cooked up by liberal social democrats .. I smell western Europe.. they like to dream that we will buy into their vision. The old perfersser knows full well the Nobel Peace prize comes from the same sentiment. You were what ???/ predicting 8 points in the popular election for Obama… wanna make a last minute adjustment? Romney is going to win this one walking away. Bush did it, played again at the debate? How reflexive. Instinctual. They just can’t grasp compromise to the center. 54% still want Obamacare repealed, and Romney is way ahead of “got no plan but to say your plan is wrong” Obama… in abiltity to handle the economy. Wait until states are forced to fully fund their pension plans…
October 24, 2012 at 4:23 am #774502
kootchmanMemberCan I call em or what? No authority, no jurisdiction, no legal right to enter a polling place… and lookie here… as predicted.
In response to the concerted efforts by Republicans to suppress voter turn-out in the November election, civil rights groups have asked the world’s largest election monitoring organization to police the elections for fraud.
As reported in The Hill, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), a United Nations partner on democratization and human rights projects, will send 44 observers around the country on November 6th to monitor voting and prevent efforts to intimidate voters at the polls. They come at the urging of civil rights groups like the ACLU, NAACP and the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights.
Seems the UN was not really that concerned.. 44 observers… for over 790,000 polling stations? And 30 per cent of votes by mail?
“State law does not generally provide for international observers,” Maiola said. “However, through our contacts at state and county level in certain states, we managed to secure invitations at local level and we have taken up the offer to observe. Where this is not possible, we will respect the state regulation on this matter and will not observe in precincts on Election Day.
October 24, 2012 at 4:25 am #774503
kootchmanMemberThe only fear is The Messiah is elected again… but I am thinking not. Will Obama pop a drone in Libya before or after the election? Survey says?… depends on his poll numbers.
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