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December 1, 2011 at 7:48 pm #741668
kootchmanMemberNote to WS “ites” with welding, truck driving, concrete, surveying, anthroplogy, geology, engineering, heavy equipment, piloting, etc. etc. skills. As soon as Obama is gone… Keystone et al will be hiring from Canada to the Gulf Coast. Help is on the way!
December 2, 2011 at 4:43 am #741669
JoBParticipantkootch…
i get it
it’s the new republican voter strategy
if you can’t win the hearts and minds of voters
you can blackmail them into voting for you
the republican jobs bill
defeat Obama and there will be jobs
the only problem is that if they deliver as well as trickle down
America is about to get snookered again
December 2, 2011 at 5:06 am #741670
kootchmanMemberUmmm.. demonstrably, while not perfect…trickle down sure beats seize and confiscate. But ya have to admit… the message IS getting through… and it is working. But ya know… gosh darn those republicans…they are going to get Keystone passed anyway… with LOTS of Democratic support. NOW..let’s see Obama defeat a union laden jobs bill. Come back, come back you Reagen Democrats.. your true party awaits you.. Ohio, PA, VA, Il IN… home of pressure pipe. Heavy equipment manufacturing..we have jobs for you.
December 2, 2011 at 5:09 am #741671
kootchmanMemberLincoln Welding, Caterpillar, US Pipe and Steel, Cummings, Allison, Manitowic, and on and on and on…. WE ARE the shovel ready party… catchy eh? If keeping the workforce on food stamps and three years of unemployment is winning hearts and minds….jobs is your idea of blackmail… you have just defined the modern Democratic Party.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/284333/obama-101-victor-davis-hanson?pg=2
December 2, 2011 at 5:19 am #741672
kootchmanMemberWASHINGTON — Angered by President Barack Obama’s delay of a proposed oil pipeline from Canada, Senate Republicans are moving to force him to act.
A bill introduced Wednesday by 37 GOP senators, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, would require the administration to approve the Keystone XL pipeline within 60 days, unless the president declares the project is not in the national interest.
Watch the AFL-CIO testify tomorrow in front of Congress in support of the bill. Tomorrow. See, we compromise… the AFL-CIO was invited by Senate Republicans. Shovel ready, and compromising … that’s us.
December 2, 2011 at 7:18 am #741673
JanSParticipantMitch McConnell..don’t effing make me laugh…he stated time and time again that his only purpose in life is to bring Obama down and make him a one time prez. I should trust anything he does? Like it’s good for the country? Give me an effing break…go peddle this someplace else..
December 2, 2011 at 7:19 am #741674
JanSParticipantCmpromise? Republicans? BS…it’s their way or the highway…ain’t no compromnise there… the only compromise they want is the other side of the aisle giving in to them…
December 2, 2011 at 7:49 am #741675
kootchmanMemberThere is now way I could support a Nancy Pelosi type of Republican… how did that refrain go” “we don’t have to compromise, we have the majority”…isn’t that what she said? No, we won’t abide that type of governance. It’s not productive. Not one bit. We don’t write bills behind locked doors, refuse to let Democrats in, and then give them 24 hours to vote up or down without having the time to read the bill. That would be arrogant governance. Wouldn’t it? Besides, in the future, why, they might treat us the same way. That would not be in the best interests of the country would it? Golly, darn it…unemployment up again? We need to talk to President Obama…anyone seen him in D.C. the last two weeks?
December 2, 2011 at 9:00 am #741676
JanSParticipantthe best interests of the country..let’s see…how’s that workin’ for us so far?
December 2, 2011 at 9:17 am #741677
kootchmanMemberpolitical memories are long…..
December 2, 2011 at 1:57 pm #741678
redblackParticipantlol. AFL-CIO? that pipeline is slated to run through nothing but red right-to-work states. no union jobs there anyway.
and watch thosee red states bend over backwards to put in this poison-emitting iron-age relic and ask for no compensation from the keystone, loving and benevolent petroleum services company.
this is the republican jobs plan?
December 2, 2011 at 3:38 pm #741679
cadburyParticipant“We don’t write bills behind locked doors, refuse to let Democrats in, and then give them 24 hours to vote up or down without having the time to read the bill. That would be arrogant governance. Wouldn’t it?”
Um…how do you think the Patriot Act was passed? Sorry but your party invented that tactic. And I thought you said political memories were long…
December 2, 2011 at 4:21 pm #741680
JoBParticipantkootch…
ROFLOL.. eyes too full of tears to read the rest of the comments…
you are actually proud of the republican strategy to win the presidential election by blackmailing voters…
that does say it all.. doesn’t it.
December 2, 2011 at 4:24 pm #741681
JoBParticipantcadbury…
“how do you think the Patriot Act was passed? Sorry but your party invented that tactic. And I thought you said political memories were long… “
well done!
December 3, 2011 at 4:49 pm #741682
redblackParticipantfrom a real investor – hopefully the source is solid enough for our conservative friends:
December 3, 2011 at 5:07 pm #741683
JoBParticipantredblack…
are you sure that’s patriotic?
rewarding actual job creators instead of rewarding wealth creation?
what will you think of next :)
December 3, 2011 at 6:01 pm #741684
DBPMemberAren’t wealth creation and job creation really the same thing? If not, how are they different?
December 3, 2011 at 6:40 pm #741685
JoBParticipantDecember 3, 2011 at 8:53 pm #741686
JanSParticipantnot all job creations end up creating wealth…sometimes a job is just a job…
December 3, 2011 at 10:51 pm #741687
DBPMemberDecember 3, 2011 at 11:42 pm #741688
JanSParticipantlol..yes, sometimes those jobs don’t give one wealth, DBP. Although I suppose wealth can be other things than monetary…you know..having pride in a job well done, things like that…
December 4, 2011 at 1:32 am #741689
kootchmanMemberjeez redblack… then why did 48 unions, union management, testify on the hill supporting the program to start laying the pipeline? redblack.. there are unions all over the country.. all those red states have trade unions… every single one. Rail workers, truckers, manufacturing, craft unions… ya think unions only exist in blue states? Well Mr. President.. there ya go.. 20,000 direct jobs, over 110,000 ancillary jobs. Of course, there is no federal loan guaranty, no political payoffs to hand out, no public debt, and no deficit spending..so I suppose it will be hard to understand… ask a second grader if it is too confusing. We ARE going to use the oil.. there is nothing to replace it…the question is do we send money to the House of Saud, Hugo Chavez, Nigeria, or Canada ans US companies. Notto put oo fine a point on it.. but The Messiah will pass it .. he just doesn’t want to pass it BEFORE the election so he can get his “greenie” squad out in the streets. Talk about BLACKMAIL…and callous at that..and soo transparant, I would be insulted as an environmentalist that he would think I was so unsophisticted to not see through the ruse. Private capital at risk..it’s what we republicans do. JoB? The Patriot Act? Passed Republican House, Democratice Senate, and signed by Democratic President. Passed Aug It was set to sundown…. It’s now the Democratic Patriot Act by any reasonable measure. The republicans birthed a monster..and the Democrats loved it so much, they put it on life support and gave it supplements and growth hormones.
“Reid didn’t give any U.S. senators time to offer amendments, circumventing the processes of representative democracy by slapping the Patriot Act onto the small business legislation and moving it to the floor of the Senate, lickety split.” JoB?
December 4, 2011 at 1:45 am #741690
kootchmanMemberDBP… well here’s an example.. elect a congressperson. They will accept honorariums, trade on insider information, accept campaign donations (they can take em’ into retirement). Most retire with millions, having created not one single job. In fact, probably having lost hundreds of thousands of them via campaign donations for favorable trade legislation. See.. wealth creation… no jobs.
December 4, 2011 at 7:06 am #741691
JanSParticipantKman..the last paragraph/quote in your post #72..source?
December 4, 2011 at 1:53 pm #741692
TDeParticipant“The USA PATRIOT Act (commonly known as the “Patriot Act”) is an Act of the U.S. Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001. The title of the act is a ten letter acronym (USA PATRIOT) that stands for Uniting (and) Strengthening America (by) Providing Appropriate Tools Required (to) Intercept (and) Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001.[1]
The act, a response to the terrorist attacks of September 11th, dramatically reduced restrictions on law enforcement agencies’ ability to search telephone, e-mail communications, medical, financial, and other records; eased restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering within the United States; expanded the Secretary of the Treasury’s authority to regulate financial transactions, particularly those involving foreign individuals and entities; and broadened the discretion of law enforcement and immigration authorities in detaining and deporting immigrants suspected of terrorism-related acts. The act also expanded the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied.
On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act: [2] roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the “library records provision”), and conducting surveillance of “lone wolves” — individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups.[3]
Details
The Act was passed in the House by 357 to 66 (of 435) and in the Senate by 98 to 1 and was supported by members of both the Republican and Democratic parties.
Opponents of the law have criticized its authorization of indefinite detentions of immigrants; searches through which law enforcement officers search a home or business without the owner’s or the occupant’s permission or knowledge; the expanded use of National Security Letters, which allows the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to search telephone, e-mail, and financial records without a court order, and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to business records, including library and financial records. Since its passage, several legal challenges have been brought against the act, and Federal courts have ruled that a number of provisions are unconstitutional.
Many of the act’s provisions were to sunset beginning December 31, 2005, approximately 4 years after its passage. In the months preceding the sunset date, supporters of the act pushed to make its sunsetting provisions permanent, while critics sought to revise various sections to enhance civil liberty protections. In July 2005, the U.S. Senate passed a reauthorization bill with substantial changes to several sections of the act, while the House reauthorization bill kept most of the act’s original language. The two bills were then reconciled in a conference committee that was criticized by Senators from both the Republican and Democratic parties for ignoring civil liberty concerns.[4]
The bill, which removed most of the changes from the Senate version, passed Congress on March 2, 2006, and was signed into law by President George W. Bush on March 9 and 10, 2006.”
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