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[beachdrivegirl]

Ivars has a nice brunch. Jaks is great too

[swimcat]

Palisades is great for a fancier brunch- it is over in Magnolia. JaK’s in WS is also good and should be able to accomodate a group of 8. Enjoy!

[Crowe]

Does anyone have thoughts on a good place for brunch?

Salty’s, I know, but would love more ideas. Needs to be a place that will fit up to about 8 or so?

We will be in the downtown area, so Seattle or West Settle ideas would be great.

Thanks :0)

[JoB]

villagegreen..

if hillary was a man there would have been no need for the crying episodes to prove to america that she was a caring woman.

were they contrived?.. i don’t know. but once she found out that they worked.. i am sure she made less effort to completely contain her emotions.

If hillary was a man.. she wouldn’t have had the complications of Bill.

If Hillary was a man she would have either succeeded or failed on her own political merits decades ago.

She isn’t a man. It’s one of the things i like about her.. i have never hidden that.

I don’t think the competitive style of men is viable in today’s political and economic climate. i am hoping her more collaborative style would actually create some real change.

Just as i am sure one of the things a lot of people like about Barak is that he isn’t a woman. i think that is one of the major reasons he is doing so well with white men.. of all ages…

And a lot of them probably like that he is black. Don’t dismiss all of those middle aged people who actually fought for civil rights.. even if it wasn’t their color.

Do i think he gets a kick from all of that. Yup…

I don’t mind that he does.

what i mind is his campaign and supporters acting like they aren’t manipulating that like crazy to their own benefit. That’s hypocrisy.

[JoB]

feel free to email me any time…

what you are saying could be my yuki as easily as not…

and yes.. the joys of rescue… and yes.. i really mean that.. even with my little yuki kujo…

[JoB]

I don’t know what Packworks did for our dogs… i can only tell you what they did for us.

They helped us understand what we could do to signal to our dogs that we were in charge when they hit triggers.

and that has greatly altered our dogs behavior.

it hasn’t solved the problems.

I still don’t know what mochi would do with a dog if she wasn’t diverted…

and.. I still don’t have people in to my house and am unable to invite anyone along on excursions if the dogs will be present. My grandchildren don’t come to the house… and the dogs are kenneled if we have visitors.

However.. solicitors don’t stay long with me holding back a lunging yuki:)

this is not the ideal solution.. at least not yet.

But i do see real progress with both dogs…

the biggest thing i see is that both dogs are looking to me before they act out now… and that wasn’t happening before.

the changes in the way we behaved were for the most part subtle… but they seem to have been effective.

I was an effective dog trainer before i met them.. i have trained abused akitas.. and that’s not an easy task.. but these dogs are as close to a wild animal as they get and i don’t think i truly understood the implications of that before i met gretchen…

nor did i understand some of the finer points about the way they had worked out their own pack issues… they divided responsibilities between them…

I may still have to end up with medication because i refuse to be isolated by my animals.. but for now we make progress and have hope.

the only place i found them heavy handed at all was with us… and my husband disagrees with me on that…

they were incredible with the dogs.

[JoB]

Jeff is a great guy…

and we attended his classes…

and had him over to the house to consult…

and… he believes in Yuki (the people aggressive dog) as much as we do…

but for this aggressive dog.. we got more help from packworks…

and we got strategies that are working for our dog aggressive shiba.

I am not suggesting packworks for every owner of a dog they consider aggressive… although if they can help us do this with these two.. it may be a good investment…

but i am definately suggesting packworks when you have reached the point you think your only option might be putting the dog down.

That one (long and somewhat expensive) training session has turned a major corner for us and restored both harmony and hope.

for those who love the more difficult of dogs.. that can be a life saver.

[JanS]

well, the point of the McCain thread wouldn’t exactly be “Go McCain”…unless we meant it as “go away” – lol. The House, if I understand from previous postings, isn’t exactly crazy about the Rep. candidate (correct me, Jon, if I’m wrong)…

I just think it’s time for the Dem. supporters to put the attention where it’s gonna be needed real soon…the opposite party…and leave the picayune ( I don’t really mean to belittle the arguments pro and con) squabbles to be worked out. We will have a Dem. candidate…one or the other…and we WILL have to support that candidate no matter what…it’s time to unite…

[JoB]

You guys are great for my exercise program…

This mornings posts… the attack on Gerladine Ferraro finally made me mad. It is not ok.

When Obama’s advisor called Hillary a monster… nothing out of context there… hillary said that it was too bad that she said that.. but it does say something about what they think in that campaign…

Hillary didn’t call for her resignation or voice anything other than sadness. And her sadness was that any democratic campaign would build such a culture of hate for another candidate.

When Hillary’s head of finance got quoted out of context.. (she says she was quoted out of context and I believe the transcript reflects exactly that) Obama indignantly called for her resignation.

Apparantly Hillary’s assessment of the culture of hate inside Obama’s campaign was correct… and extends to anyone who actually supports her.

This is ugly! And in spite of everyone’s assertion of Hillary’s divisiveness… this is evidence of divisiveness fed directly by the Obama campaign.

I have been placed lately in a position i don’t want to be in… the attacks on Hillary have stepped up to such a fever pitch that i have been forced to spend all of my time refuting charges…

I feel like the recipient of the question “When did you stop beating your wife”

The assumption is that the charges are correct and the only question is when i will apologize for them.

The truth is that neither of our democratic candidates is anything for a progressive to shout about.

Neither one of them!

Neither will take a political chance… their voting records are so close as to be identical.

Neither has stepped up for any politically risky position.

Neither has run a totally clean campaign.

To be honest, i am not sure how they could… other than race, sex and age.. all taboo subjects in america… they aren’t all that different.

For every indignant charge of dirty campaigning leveled at Hillary there are at least that number if not more that are never leveled at Obama.

This is what i end up fighting and it is making my stomach turn.

I am appalled at the way democrats have let the republican agenda write the talking points for this campaign.

I am appalled at the way they are controlling the process.. starting with the early primary in Florida that was engineered by the republicans tieing paper receipts for voting to an early primary. … And following right into the Obama campaign co-opting republican labels for Hillary as part of their campaign… and enthusiastically cooperating with the anti-Hillary bias in the media.. going so far as to feed them information.

I know this is campaigning… and it is effective campaigning.. but you can’t muddy the face of the other candidate unless you are willing to be muddied yourself…

and this is what i see wrong with the Obama campaign. their attitude is mudslinging is ok.. she deserves it.. but he doesn’t.. so it’s your responsibility to be indignant if any mud gets near him.

Kayleigh :~ (

“It’s cool to count your spouse’s experience, your teen job in the mailroom, your lemonade stand at age 5, and your twenty minutes at the nonprofit sector as “experience in public service” ..

this is one of the most sexist and dismissive things i have ever heard out of any political campaign…

and yes, i know Obama’s campaign didn’t put all those ideas together for you.. but the right biased press and Obama’s campaign have given you each and every one of those.

I know. they come to my house too.

I suppose Obama had to do something to counter Hillary’s real experience …

have you forgotten that Hillary fundraised for Obama’s campaign? And for the campaigns of most Democrats who have passed through congress in the last 20+ years…

Have you forgotten that she and bill cemented their personal relationship over campaigning in texas… long before either of them was a candidate for anything?

have you forgotten that at the time Bill and Hill formed their private and public political partnership he had a much better chance than she did of being elected for anything… their partnership worked effectively.. and only when one partner’s ambitions were exceeded did the other pursue hers.

This is and always has been a partnership… and as anyone can tell you in any partnership.. the person whose name is on the door doesn’t do all of the work.

shame on you for dismissing her hard work that way. shame on you.

And shame on Obama’s campaign for feeding you that drivel… feeding anger and hate.

how does that correspond with the candidate you think you are supporting?

It is no coincidence that those who support Hillary unilaterally assert loudly that they will support the democratic candidate in the fall no matter who that candidate is.

I think it is also no coincidence that Obama supporters don’t.

Who do you think really has the good of the party firmly in mind? Or.. the good of the country for that matter.

I am not going to spend all of my time responding to this drivel…

I think Hillary is the best person for the job because when it comes to problems that ordinary American’s face, she looks for solutions that actually address the problem… not window dressing legislation that creates one more law to be enforced only when the problem gets enough publicity.

as in Clinton’s 2007 proposed legislation… mtg (truth in lending disclosure laws) and lead paint (tax credits for the removal of lead based paint)

Obama’s proposed 2007 legislation on the same issues… Mtg (laws making mtg fraud illegal .. ) and lead paint (laws restricitng lead paint on toys … )…

Fraud is already illegal… all fraud.. including mtg fraud… it’s proving intentional fraud that is difficult.. as the FBI is currently finding our regarding mtg fraud … and it is already a health hazard to coat toys with lead based paint.. a legal matter that i think is working it’s ways through the court as we speak.

will those laws add teeth to current legislation? possibly. Will they have an immediate effect on either mtg fraud or companies importing toys with lead paint? No, they won’t. They may deter.. but they won’t create immediate relief.

these, by the way, were examples cited by an opinion piece linked in this thread by an Obama supporter…

I support Hillary because she fights tirelessly for legislation that will actually help women and children.. especially legislation that will help poor women and children… a priority she has maintained internationally for decades.

I support Hillary because she listens.. when a group of retired military offered to brief candidates early in the campaign about the middle east and military options… a briefing that all of the democratic candidates attended.. including OBama.. she and Biden were the only two who stayed after to ask more questions and clarify options.

I support Hillary because she delegates. She has been criticized for mismanaging her campaign because she delegated tasks and gave her people both responsibility and authority to complete them.

I support Hillary because she is actually willing to work across party lines for something she believes in… and she has proven that in her congressional career..

I support Hillary because her fellow congressmen said this about her in her first term… she really works to understand the process and is willing to do what it takes to get the job done.

Obama’s fellow congressmen said this about him…

he really inspires people.. he personifies hope.

Do i know that Hillary has flaws? You bet.

Do i think she has made mistakes? Yup.

Do i think she will make more? Of course.

Do i think she has learned from her past mistakes and will learn from those she has yet to make? yes, i do.

And i didn’t have to accuse Obama or label him to say any of that…

excepting of course, the Obama campaign’s non-stop labeling and accusations against Hillary… and i don’t consider that doing anything other than naming the other elephant in this campaign… the contrast between the Obama campaign’s claim to running a clean campaign and their actual tactics.

I hope it’s still nice enough outside for another walk. I’ve been at this keyboard too long.

[JoB]

did you all actually follow the link? … and watch the video of the interview.. or were you too indignant to do that?

and if so.. did you actually listen to what was said instead of just looking for justification for your anger?

because… Geraldine Ferraro says she didn’t say that he got where he is ONLY because he was black.. at least the the statement in context didn’t say that… it was never her intention in any way to say that he got where he is ONLY because he was black… the interviewer wouldn’t even let her point that teeny little fact out because it was so much better news if geraldine ferraro was a racist.

and by implication… Hillary Clinton a racist because she didn’t immediately fire her for being quoted out of context.

Ferraro did say that Obama is a credible candidate. did you hear that?

And she said something else that it might be wise for those who want Obama to succeed in the fall (if he wins the nomination) to listen to very carefully.

She pointed out something which i think you all would do well to hear while you are busy polarizing opinion…

that if Obama is the candidate… he should be just a little bit more careful who he smears as he works his way up the ladder because he is counting on those very people to raise funds for him and campaign for him in the fall (Geraldine Ferraro is a big democratic fund raiser).

I for one am still going to campaign for him this fall (if he is our candidate) because i won’t be a party to a McCain victory.. but i can tell you right now… the only reason is that i don’t want McCain for president. I am NOT impressed with Obama. I am less impressed every single day he campaigns.

I can’t believe how myopic you are all being. Obama is NOT running a clean campaign. There was nothing clean about the attack on Ferraro.

It is the Obama campaign who took the comment (at a non-campaign paid speech on another subject… in response to a direct question about Obama’s carrying the black vote) and used it out of context; labeling it as as racist.

Anyone who actually thinks that Geraldine Ferraro is a racist had best go take a good look at her political history.

Do you realize that by those same standards.. you label me a racist.. and that is about as far from the truth as anyone can get.

Do you really think labeling good people racist is inclusive? Do you think this is the way to make them work for your candidate in the fall?

get real!

As for Barak.. he is making capital out of both his name and his race… and it’s good for him to do so. Yes.. being a black candidate named barak has been very good for his campaign.

It may not be good for his eventual safety.. so we should be paying a lot of attention to who he would choose as a running mate.. but it certainly has been good for his campaign.

those who believe in political correctness are stumbling all over themselves trying not to offend his sensibilities.. and it appears it is so easy to do so.

Which by the way is turning out to be incredibly divisive… because he has taken the high road… he says so.. that makes anyone else on the low road… he says so…

what could possibly be more divisive than dismissing anyone who doesn’t agree.

Kayleigh.. i think your statement on Hillary.. which to give you credit has been consistent from the beginning.. shows who has lost their rationality…

“Some of us flat-out dislike her mean streak, her sense of entitlement, her fearmongering, her divisiveness, her reputation, her conservative past, her disrespect of Obama, and her betrayal of the party. Period.”

You have regurgitated just about every right wing slur the republican party has been able to throw out…

except those that the democrats who would like to see anybody but Hillary and the Obama campaign created:

her conservate past …her voting record is every bit as progressive as Obama’s…

Her disrespect of Obama … What part of she is campaigning against him .. not for him.. has everyone missed? …

and i haven’t noticed Obama being so respectful of her either… but nobody seems to mind that.

her betrayal of the party … I love this one… she is not the one thumbing their nose at the party.. something everyone seems to be missing.. Obama is… didn’t anybody actually read the Rolling Stone article on Obama’s campaign? have you not listened to his constant criticism of the Democratic party? Obama may have been embraced by the anybody but Hillary faction of the Democratic party… but he has not in any way supported or tried to work with that party…

yet.. when push comes to shove.. he is certainly going to feel entitled to that party’s support.

oops.. did i just use the entitlement word against obama.. yup!

her fearmongering … so she reminds voters that it might be good if someone with a little more experience.. (and let me define that for you since some of you think that only applies to the amount of time she has held elected office… all other experience being unpaid or not in charge.. so it doesn’t count)…someone who has actually been paying attention to international politics for a long time and who has taken the initiative to be educated on those matters…. that someoen with expreience took the calls that our current administration has made much more than likely… that is fearmongering? that is political labeling.

Those political labels are the filter through which you see her every action…

She can’t even say that Obama is outspending her to make her supporters aware that without more contributions, she will not win … without you taking it as a personal slur against Obama.. she’s implying he’s got corporate money? i don’t think so.

Who has lost their perspective?

And each and every one of those charges has come from the Obama campaign… i know because i receive his emails … I think there is derogatory labeling of Hillary in every one of them.

this is a strange way of running a clean campaign… perpetually smearing your opponent with emotionally charged assertions that distract from the actual issues….

let’s see.. where have is seen that lately?… oh yeah.. it was from the Carl Rove playbook. imagine that.

i must be mistaken because Obama tells me that Hillary plays from that playbook and if obama says it.. it’s true…

Yup, i’m sarcastic.

I have already taken one walk today.. and i would like you to know that West Seattle and all of the reasons i love it are still out there. This morning i saw a bald eagle perched above alki… and watched the sea churn against the wall at alki point.. and some black and white ducks enthusiastically fished in the choppy waters.

i think i will go take another. it beats washing dishes.

[Kayleigh]

Interesting when someone (like Ferraro) says something bigoted or dismissive or disrespectful and then tries to convince us they’re just big brave truth tellers, or ‘saying what everyone is thinking.’ Yuck.

When people talk about race or sex in this election, I start looking for shag carpeting and faux wood paneling, because it seems to me those people are stuck in 1972 (or even earlier.) Race and sex are part of all our identities but in 2008, they really should be neither dealbreakers nor dealmakers. IMHO.

[Franci]

I like La Rustica, but I also LOVE Bistro Baffi of Burien (formerly The Beach House Cafe at Alki). Great food! Great Service! Wonderful tiramisu!! Yumm..

They are on 152nd west of Ambuam. There is another thread that has their exact loction.

The setting inside is much nicer than their Alki days, during the week you can drop in for a table. I’ve heard that on weekends you need a reservation.

[Bernicki]

People rave about La Rustica, including my husband. Imagine his surprise when he wanted to go out to dinner, suggested La Rustica, and I hesitated. I sincerely apologize if this offends anyone who loves La Rustica (and I know there are many), but I just don’t see the appeal. I’ve been there about five times now. I don’t like the crammed-in feeling from the crowded tables. The last time we went there, we could barely have our own conversation; the people at the closest two tables were speaking normally, but they were literally at our elbows. And, despite all the people, it always seems to be cold in there. I’ve never ordered anything there that has transported me into raptures of yumminess. WHat am I missing?

[charlabob]

I don’t think Colin Powell is likely to sign up to run with the hundred year war guy:

“I’m terribly excited, I’m impressed, and I’m happy for Barack Obama.” (in a PBS interview)

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/08/politics/horserace/entry3689327.shtml

We can only hope McCain selects Condi — the woman has been a disaster! People who knew her at Stanford can’t imagine what happened. (Yup, you read it here — a Lib Crone Chick saying something negative about a Black *woman*). Armagedden may have arrived.

c

[flowerpetal]

I was disappointed with Shoofly Pie but will give it another try. Any restaurant can have a bad day. I certainly have had a few in my own kitchen. I had a slice of pie with a crust so tuff that I needed a fork and knife. When I attempted af firts to break the crust with the side of my fork the plate almost did a flip! Not at all what crust should be like

But the whole concept of a pie place is great and just needs some tweaking. If I were the proprieters I would consider a few small side salads or a soup of the day to accompany the savory pies.

Ama Ama = Yummy Yummy And someone is going to have say some nice things about Shadowland before I go there. I keep waiting..

[Crowe]

Out of the places mentioned I’ve only been to one.

I am a pie lover. And Shoofly rocks. All butter crust, flaky, the inside is just as good as the outside, Chicken pot pie for dinner, and cherry pie for dessert. Yum. If you need a good recipe for a broken heart, this is it. Comfort food at it’s best.

Am-ama sounds like a place to check out for sure.

I’ve heard all good so far.

[JanS]

yum….cupcakes…I’m all for any of it :)

[JanS]

spana….do I know you? I’m familiar with the original poster of this thread. And your name sounds familiar.

Mlle. Audreyhorne….They have yummy savory pies at Shoofly Pie…could probably get some and divide them into small servings.

[JoB]

village green…again.. where do i start?

“Clinton/Bush dynasty”… what dynasty?

have you not noticed that they don’t happen to be members of the same party and the legislative goals of the two were somewhat opposed… We had 4 years of Bush the father.. got smart… had 8 years of Bill Clinton… hampered by a republican congress… and then 8 years of Bush the son.

There is no dynasty there (at least not in the Bushes themselves) in spite of all the hype. In fact, Bush the son has followed policies that have to make his dad cringe.. since they are policies he wisely decided not to follow.

the Political advisors who were in both Bush White Houses.. now that’s a different story…

And any Democratic nominee will share democratic advisors from the Clinton White House… those are “party” jobs…

You speak of a family dynasty.. but the real dynasty is that of the political parties and the staff they pass on to each president.

as for wanting to bring the 90s back… i don’t think so. Hillary isn’t advocating the 90s. She is advocating taking steps to return to both decency and prosperity.

the idea that a new (even inspiring) face is what it will take to create change is bull. Inspiration is only the first step towards change… then you need an intimate knowledge of the system.

the future is always built on the past and a good understanding of what brought you where you are gives you a much better understanding of what might have to be changed to get someplace else.

“hillary spent the last 4 years of her time propagating the notion of a “vast right wing conspiracy” based on republican lies and smears”

so.. you believe all of that was something she manufactured? That’s one take on things i guess… but i thought that was a Republican notion…

Having paid attention to politics during that time.. i would say she/they were the target and she didn’t have to manufacture anything. Blaming her for that is like blaming the poor pedestrian who happened to be in the crosswalk when the drunk hit her…

“now that the campaign has gone negative” …

is this the first political campaign you have actually paid attention to? I don’t ask to put you down.. but so far this is the least negative campaign (even primaries) i have ever witnessed in 40+ years of paying attention to them.

One of the benefits of a primary is that the “dirt” is exposed on all candidates before they match up with the other party’s candidate… that hasn’t happened in this campaign. And that’s really not a good thing. While it might make everyone feel better about the process it makes the democratic position ultimately weaker.

One of the benefits of Hillary is that she has spent the last 20+ years of her life under the most intense scrutiny i have ever seen of any public figure. There is unlikely to be anything more to uncover. It will all be an old story.. rehashed once again.. but made less potent in the light of the current administration’s antics.

Whereas.. no one has looked very closely at Obama’s legislative dealings and we know he came from one of the most corrupt political systems in the country… Chicago. Do you honestly believe that his record is so clean that there is nothing for the republicans to uncover? One of his old campaign managers (i think… i hope that’s all he was) is under indictment right now for some pretty underhanded dealings.

I don’t think we have done Obama any favors by not getting anything he may have lurking out into the light… and allowing him the chance to deal with it in a less negative environment than the one he might face in the fall.

Primaries have a dual purpose.. and that is to see who can gain public favor (and both candidates have) and to see who can stand up to the scrutiny of a campaign.

If there is no scrutiny (what you would call dirty campaigning), how will we know? Because that isn’t the way it will be in the general election.

“all this leads me to believe that Hillary will resort to any means necessary to reach her goals”

does this meant that you think she will run an actual campaign and try to defeat her opponent? yup.. i think she will.

“she “deserves” to be president; it’s her ‘right’ is how she comes across.

Interesting.. now you accuse her of feeling entitled to be president.

And you don’t think Obama does?

She did earn the right to run by working tirelessly for her party for 40+ years. She built a political organization.. she solicited donations.. and she has been working herself ragged during her campaign. Quite frankly.. she looks like she needs more than a nap lately.

Where does any of that become entitlement?

“sounds earily similar to the way George W Bush thinks”

That’s the second time you have equated Hillary Clinton and George Bush. Not good. Not good for your party.

You are a democrat! Stop repeating Republican talking points and concentrate on what works about your candidate.

Your sole argument is that you are ready for someone a little more inspiring.

You can simply say.. Hillary does not inspire me…

I get that.

if you truly beleive what you said….

“I think she’d be a fine nomination and president”

and you believe Obama would make a better president.. then say that.

But this divisiveness needs to stop “for the good of the party”.

When the dust settles… it’s going to be up to the losing side to help elect the party’s nominee.

Will you be there if it isn’t your candidate… or will you have convinced yourself she doesn’t deserve to win and hand the presidency to the republicans?

We’ve done it before.. we can certainly do it again.

worth thinking about.

[JanS]

ok..so…Barack Obama’s mother is/was white, father is a Muslim from Kenya. Father left the family when he was 2 years old. So that would make Mr. Obama half black, half white. The fact that there was a Muslim somewhere in his life is irrelevant, and has no place in this election. The fact that his heritage belongs to Kenya has nothing to do with this election, and is irrelevant. The fact that he wore the native Kenyan garb during a visit has nothing to do with this election, and is irrelevant. The fact that there is a nasty false e-mail circulating on the internet is shameful. If any of this is brought up by any of the other candidates, well, my opinion is that it’s being brought up to be inflammatory, when it’s irrelevant. Totally irrelevant. His light skin, his dark skin…who gives a damn. Outward physical appearances are irrelevant. John McCain can’t lift his arms up all the way over his head…so what. Hillary Clinton has a (yes, let’s admit it) shrill voice…so what? NONE of that has anything to do with being a president. The “3AM” ad is irrelevant. Do we really believe that Mr. McCain or Mr. Obama wouldn’t know what to do in that situation? That they would just roll over and go back to sleep? I don’t. The ad means nothing to me. Remember the ad for Burger King? “Where’s the beef”? We all need to start paying attention to the “beef”, and not to all of this little picayune crap…candidates included.

Mr. McCain, Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama…they all have things that I’m sure could be brought up…dirty politics? Are we destined to have to put up with it forever? I certainly hope not.It’s demeaning to the candidates, to the parties, and most of all to the people who want to make good, educated decisions about who will be the next president. So tell me what you’re gonna do, not what dirt you can dig up on the other guy that has no meaning here.

I’m already tired of the whole thing, and we haven’t gotten to the convention yet…geez.

[charlabob]

Yup, this actually works. I found Skylark from the discussion of John the waiter. And the flood of useful information (and fascinating discussion) just never stops. Thank you WSB! There’s a book in here somewhere.

[JanS]

I’m probably going to offend some people, but, hey, I can handle it. Am I the only one who is tired of the immature rants, etc., that pop up in some threads on here when people disagree? There are forums on the internet that thrive on name calling, general nastiness, etc., and for those who want to go those fora, that’s fine with me. However….I love the WSB and all that it encompasses, and I guess I just assume that those of us who post on here, even though we disagree, are mature, civil human beings, and should be above this sort of thing. It detracts from the forum, it detracts from the point of the thread. I’ve included some examples below from just one thread. Yes, unfortunately, most are from one person, who, sadly, has done this in other threads. But…on the other side , there are people who make snide remarks that are totally off topic to egg this person on. Any opinions? webmaster? am I out of line? I’m just tired of it…

1.

Blow away san! You must be the idiot who write in the rants and raves on Seattle Times that people find most annoying. I am only negative about you freak. You no longer exisit to me you are a complete waste of time and space. You do not deserve any nice words written about yu so no sweeties, or dearie, just disgust!!

Posted 1 day ago #

2.Same to you barmagia! What a name!! So you are a barmaid we get it! Go mix yourself some drinks and call it a night. Maybe we will get lucky and you won’t come back.

3.Dear San:

LatteMom and NewResident are not the same person, so get over it will you! And you sound so arogant suits your name SanDearie!! Hey! Are you the owner of the pit bull from the latest attack, you sound arogant enough. Whait a minute your name must be SanJerald! :)

4.Newlatte-

Chill sweet pea. When you reply in an angry frenzy, you manage to make yourself even smaller. Deep breathes. Try a dash of patience and reality and you just might gain some credibility. If you could exhibit some shred of maturity, you just might notice how little you find yourself on the defense. The world isn’t against you, despite your best attempts. So lighten up. No one likes a poopy pants who loves to pipe in with constant negativity. Here’s one more piece of advice – Spellcheck. I’ve heard that it even works on “Complete Freakout Meltdown” mode. Nighty night pumpkin. :)

5.an I thought I got out of junior high many many years ago, I guess I was wrong.

lattemom, I am not a barmaid, but thanks for proving that you are a judgmental name caller. If it were any of your business (sound familiar) I would explain how I came to have that name, but since you will come to your own conclusions without ASKING first then you just go ahead and think whatever you want to think.

[Anonymous]

Blow away san! You must be the idiot who write in the rants and raves on Seattle Times that people find most annoying. I am only negative about you freak. You no longer exisit to me you are a complete waste of time and space. You do not deserve any nice words written about yu so no sweeties, or dearie, just disgust!!

[WSMom]

We have had really good luck creating yummy garden compost with our kitchen waste and leaf/lawn clippings. We just throw everything in a compost bin and stir it up occasionally. My tomatoes are the envy of the neighborhood and I attribute my success to the compost. You can get a composter from the city for just $25.00. I now have three bins going each with lots of worms helping to break down the greens & browns into good soil.

http://www.seattle.gov/util/Services/Yard/Natural_Lawn_&_Garden_Care/BuyCompostBinsRainBarrels/index.htm

[Ken]

I did not start this thread to discuss religion.

Religion seems to be involved because it is pretty much only the subset of christianist who think the literal interpretation of genesis and other tales from the Bible should trump not only paleontology and biology but geology, cosmology, astronomy, genetics and a hundred other fields of study, who also seek the political power to ram that insanity down the throats of the rest of is.

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/WeyrichManual.html#anchor474909

If you want to experiment with the living conditions inside a whale, be my guest.

http://kingjbible.com/jonah/1.htm

If you want to attempt to breed animals of various coloration by controlling what they see when they drink water, go for it and the best of luck to you.

http://bible.cc/genesis/30-37.htm

But if you expect sane humans to allow the idiots among us to control the education of public school children in a way that denies all reason and rationality, all measurable evidence and observable interaction, and tries to equate astronomy with astrology, then we shall have a fight for the future.

Children can recover from the fairy tales of youth as long as they are allowed to think and learn.

They may not recover from dogma taught as science.

Now mainstream Christians seem to get upset when I point out the ugly side of the Fundamentalist Bibliolatry. I can only assume it to be for one reason. Your particular sect or denomination has been slowly poisoned by the same heresy. The worship of the Bible rather than the Deity.

http://www.newreformation.org/heresy3.htm

Science and especially Evolution has nothing to say concerning the origins of the universe or matters of faith. But it torments those who would use peoples spiritual nature as a means to control them, and enslave their God given minds and intelligence.

“If we go back to the beginning we shall find that ignorance and fear created the gods; that fancy, enthusiasm, or deceit adorned or disfigured them; that weakness worships them; that credulity preserves them, and that custom, respect and tyranny support them in order to make the blindness of men serve its own interests.”

— Paul-Henri Thiry, baron d’Holbach (1723 – 1789)