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[Tonya42]

“WSMom

Hi Tonya:

I just found it curious that you’d choose the iconic name of a brainwashed woman when you’re post is spouting republican talking points.”

That’s okay, I did not take it personally, I did however find it rather revealing in regards to your own mindset.

“BTW, Ken has built a reputation on this blog for his intelligence, honesty, and fact based posts. Nothing personal, but I find your statement “You don’t build a fortress city, a massive consulate and five major bases capable of hosting strategic airlift sized cargo planes for a short stay.

This is a generational war, deal with it.” utterly ridiculous.”

I have no doubt that Ken has the reputation you infer, that is wonderful news for Ken. Taking that a step further I don’t think Ken needs you to defend him. The fact that you find my post “ridiculous” is regreful but not entirely surprising considering you have an intolerence for an opinion that differs from your own. Lets hope that Ken is marching to a slightly different drum, shall we?

BTW, Ken has built a reputation on this blog for his intelligence, honesty, and fact based posts. Nothing personal, but I find your statement “You don’t build a fortress city, a massive consulate and five major bases capable of hosting strategic airlift sized cargo planes for a short stay.

This is a generational war, deal with it.” utterly ridiculous. Our country is going bankrupt (economically and morally) attempting to occupy Iraq.

[Tonya42]

Beachdrivegirl – Yep, you are right, I agree that most educated people are or at least should be aware of the fact that we cannot just pull out.

That being said I am not here to justify the war, I am merely presenting the scenario from my perspective. I don’t agree with how this war has been handled either but we are there, yes?

[WSMom]

Hi Tonya:

I just found it curious that you’d choose the iconic name of a brainwashed woman given the direction of your posts.

BTW, Ken has built a reputation on this blog for his intelligence, honesty, and fact based posts. Nothing personal, but I find your statement “You don’t build a fortress city, a massive consulate and five major bases capable of hosting strategic airlift sized cargo planes for a short stay.

This is a generational war, deal with it.” utterly ridiculous. Our country is going bankrupt (economically and morally) attempting to occupy Iraq.

[beachdrivegirl]

I think most educated people understand that pulling immediately out of Iraq cannot be done. That does not mean that we cant start a withrawel plan on slowly getting out of there. Furthermore, just because we can not pull out does not justify the fact that we should have ever entered in the first place!

[Anonymous]

Kayleigh, as I’ve stated before on this forum, I am victim to racism on a regular basis while at work.

If you believe that racism towards whites does not exist, you lead a pretty sheltered life. Didn’t you hear Obama’s speech and later praise it profusely? Maybe you just heard what you wanted to.

Btw, I never blamed any war on Democrats. I simply pointed out that during those specific wars, a Dem President was in office. Just a fact.

[Tonya42]

“I believe you were going to address the “falsity and ignorance” of the statement that we can withdraw by withdrawing. Apparently you got lost in vitriol and the red herring of Cambodia. That’s more what we’ve come to expect from the neocon side.”

See, that is the problem with “some” people, they assume someone is a “neocon” because of a post. How long before you realize that you cause yourself much grief in doing that?

And Cambodia is not a red herring, perhaps there in lies the problem..

On pulling out of Iraq: It simply cannot and will not be done, we will not be pulling out of Iraq, not for a long time.

“I really can’t believe you think our staying in Vietnam would have saved Cambodians from Pol Pot”

Hmm, okay Charlabob maybe you can enlighten me, when did all the systematic slaughter begin and when did the US leave? We can compare the length of time in between the two dates..

[Shibaguyz]

Charlabob – also check out squarefootgardening.com. I ran across the book while doing some research for an article on small space gardening.

Give the site a good going over. I found raised bed options for this type of system that even look easy enough to build myself. I was thinking of using it for a “second layer” for one wall of my garden where I could plant sun-loving types on the top layer and shade dwellers beneath. However, it totally works for someone who finds it difficult to get up and down off the ground.

Check it out and let me know what you think.

By the way, I’m working on my Mason Bee nest today!! I’m so excited! It’s actually pretty simple. We just went out and looked at what other places were selling then got online to find out the specs and made one ourselves. I’m going to drill the holes tonight and get the thing up on the wall before our fruit trees bloom.

You all are getting the scoop on this even before our blog readers get it. I put up pictures of our plantings last night and of our potato condo we made. Go check it out: http://www.shibaguyz.blogspot.com

[Kayleigh]

Here’s the thing for me. When someone stands to benefit financially from something, what they say is immediately suspect to me. They obviously have a vested interest ($$) in convincing me. So skepticism is required to get to the truth.

If Haliburton, KBR, and other Republican-tied (often no-bid) contractors weren’t making such staggering profits (while starving the beast of government in order to dry up social programs they don’t like), I might be more inclined to believe the rationale for the war.

[Erik]

I just planted 3 new blueberry bushes yesterday, hopefully they’ll produce something in the next year to satisfy my cravings.

Charlabob –

If you’re interested in the possibility of increasing your functioning in the garden, I can offer you some free lessons. It’s much easier to bring ourselves to our environment than vice versa, and we can playfully look for effective strategies to do that.

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand why you are making this a bigger deal than it is! And, let me remind you, I did state, in so many words, that I CAN handle humor. I even said that it was funny. I just pointed out that there is not a website for any other race like that one.

If you could take a deep breath and calm down a bit, you would probably see my point. However, I don’t think that will happen today.

And me stating that website is racist towards white people is offensive? Am I, as a white person, not allowed to be offended?

I do not think myself above any other human being. I am not racist. I show respect to everyone, regardless of your race, religion, sexuality. However, I am white and I am proud of who I am and my ancestry. Sorry if that bothers you.

[charlabob]

Tonya Harding is the skater who kneecapped a competitor because she couldn’t stand to lose.

Tania is the SLA name for Patty Hearst.

hmmmmmmm

I must admit, this is the first time I’ve seen someone from the neoconservative side actually admit and celebrate their motives. The only thing you left out is the fact that control over oil is on behalf of corporatist interests who own the current administration.

I really can’t believe you think our staying in Vietnam would have saved Cambodians from Pol Pot. We don’t have a very good record for even noticing atrocities unless they advance our political agenda (and I do not mean an agenda that benefits Americans(sic)). For examples, see most of the countries in Latin America.

I believe you were going to address the “falsity and ignorance” of the statement that we can withdraw by withdrawing. Apparently you got lost in vitriol and the red herring of Cambodia. That’s more what we’ve come to expect from the neocon side.

[Anonymous]

Question for the uneducated (me). What is the deal with superdelegates? People talk about how the delegates need to follow the will of the people. Are the standards different for superdelegates? ie: Hillary won MA in the popular vote but all the supers are endorsing Obama. I’m sure it works out the opposite in other states, this is just the one brought to my attention and I don’t understand how that’s okay.

[herongrrrl]

Charlabob, last year I did a certification course in therapeutic and healing gardens, and we talked a lot about Horticultural Therapy and making gardening accessible to people with different physical abilities. I would guess a hort therapist could tell you where to find tools that would help you garden. Here’s a link to the Edmonds CC Hort Therapy dept., with a contact name and phone number that might be a decent place to start http://hort.edcc.edu/.

Also, the course I took (through UW Extension)had a final project of designing (and implementing, if possible) a garden based on the design principles we learned. It’s possible a student enrolled now or next fall might be interested in helping you redesign your garden to be more accessible for you; if you’re interested, let me know and I can get you the professor’s contact info.

[walfredo]

Tonya42- I think part of the reason why some of us still can’t understand why America invaded Iraq, is that the admnistration has changed its reasoning so many times its hard to keep up.

If you don’t believe that the reason sold to the American people was- to prevent an imminent threat, from a brutal dictator who has weapons of mass destruction. To retaliate against those who masterminded 9/11. And of course, to provide long-term safety for the United States and our interests.

All of the reasons where out and out lies. We were lied to about the reasons for war, we were lied to about the costs of the war, we were lied to about the consequences of the war. And now we are being lied to about the “progress” of the war. And the same people that were 100% wrong on every prediction they might up to, and during the war, are the same people making these dire predictions of what will happen if we leave, and making more unfounded predictions of what we can gain if we stay.

[Tonya42]

Hello Ken –

You make some interesting points, however they are hard to take seriously b/c they are peppered with all your hatred for the current administration, there is a name for that and it’s listed as a syndrome,but I can’t think of the name at the moment but I will keep trying..

“As far as withdrawal, all the political leaders of either party have to do is give the order to withdraw.”

Absolutely false and a completely ignorant statement, nothing personal of course. But let’s address it anyways.

Hmm sounds vaguely familiar,hmm why not ask the two million Cambodians who were systematically tortured and slaughtered after the US left Vietnam? Oh wait you can’t, they’re all dead..

[beachdrivegirl]

Well said Ken! and a bit more reading on whether or not the Iraq war was justifed.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/03/21/iraq.weapons/

[Ken]

The idea that the Iraq “adventure” was worth it is silly.

Smart people knew it was a colossal bad idea when the neocons proposed it in the PNAC letter in 1998.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

It did not suddenly become a good idea when the neocons came to power in 2000.

As I told my brother in law (Sgt. Maj 18th Airborne)and my nephew (Capt 82nd Airborne) in 02, I am not anti war, but I am anti stupidity.

War is the stick half of diplomacy. The goal of diplomacy it to leave the stick in the bag until there is no other choice. When actual diplomacy fails (not the sham half assed republican version) Then the politicians should hand the Military the bag with a well defined goal. The US military is the best on the planet at killing people and breaking things. Expecting the military to build or rebuild a country is not just stupid, it is contrary to their strengths and core function. When the military part of the job is done, they hand it back to the political and diplomatic leaders and go home. This is the core errors of the current administration. This is also the lesson learned from the Viet Nam war and it was not just Colin Powell who codified it.

As far as withdrawal, all the political leaders of either party have to do is give the order to withdraw. The generals are perfectly capable of formulating a plan to do so in an orderly fashion and installations and equipment will be either removed, transferred to Iraqi control, abandoned in place or destroyed depending on the cost in blood or treasure to deal with them. As long as this administration pretends to the crocodile tears of caring about Iraqi’s while not allowing even the translators to leave the country, let alone come to the US, we have no choice but to assume this “adventure” was designed to drive up the cost of oil for the benefit of the oil companies, and bankrupt the federal government for the benefit of the conservatives who wanted to kill the “new deal”.

[charlabob]

One of the reasons the mortality rate for this war is relatively low is that medical care can keep people alive who probably would have died on the battlefield or in medevac in earlier wars. Which makes our inattention to the needs of returning veterans even more criminal.

For a view of and from wounded veterans, from long ago but sadly relevant, pick up “Johnny Got His Gun,” by Dalton Trumbo. It’s very painful to read, but we owe it to the folks returning with broken bodies and minds.

[Tonya42]

I cannot believe that after 5 years some are still unclear as to why we went to war?

To establish a military/political foothold on the heart of the Arab world that will allow us to launch military operations into other places on the far side of the planet easier than Europe or Diego Garcia if necessary.

– To find, locate, destroy and prevent future creation of WMDs

– To stabilize control over the long term the world’s oil supplies.

– To bring long term strategic stability to the region by virtue of our long term presence, in the same way our presence in Asia and Europe stabilized those regions.

– To liberalize and bring democracy in the Middle East.

– To show planet Earth, and the muslim world in particular after 9/11, that the US can invade a country on the other side of the planet, take it over in 3 weeks, dismantle its government and armed forces, and occupy it for years.

– To cement American economic ties in the region and prepare it for future American investment, at the expense of Chinese investment, which was growing in Iraq prior to the war.

– To more forcefully be at the center of all things in the Persian gulf region. If the Gulf War got us a ‘seat at the table’, as the expression goes, the Iraq War would (in principle) put us at the head of that table.

And thats just off the top of my head. Now of course, some of these goals worked out better than others. But I really think the ‘why’ has been answered. The outstanding question is, is it immoral for a government to go to war for any of those things? I can think of a lot worse reasons to go to war than energy supplies or long term strategic stability. Examining if a country can accept that there are reasons to go to war other than national survival, threat or in response to attack – that is really the heart of the matter, and I think the root of the continuing debate.

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And to: WSMom, who asked this brain teaser:

“Wasn’t “Tonya” Patty Hearst’s SLA name?”

DING DING DING You WIN!

However that is my real name, my other name is Anastasia and as you will probably chime in “Wasn’t that the name of the wicked step sister in Cinderella??” Let me help you along with a resounding YES.

[Anonymous]

Wow. You guys sure get offended when a white person is offended. I don’t see any reason for this to turn into a nasty debate. I haven’t once been disrespectful; you, on the other hand, seem quick to get heated.

No reason for it. I was just mading a point. You can’t have a website just like that one that is for any other culture or nationality, because it would be inappropriate. That is what bothers me.

[TheVelvetBulldog]

You all are light-years beyond me and I probably won’t catch up as I live in a rental and am not allowed to go too crazy. However, I would love to absorb your knowledge and I have a LOT of gardening books that are PNW-focused that might be interesting for folks to browse.

AHA!!! I know!!! Let’s meet at South Community College’s Arboretum, take a look around at what’s blooming and then go for coffee down the hill at either Delridge’s Uptown Espresso or Bubbles. (Uptown has more person capacity.)

[charlabob]

Alleged cherry tree, free for the digging: I have a tall skinny cherry tree that blooms late with white flowers. That pretty much sums up every thing I hate about this tree.

For some reason, our garden designer thought that was what I meant when I said, “I want one of those fluffy pink flowered cherry trees that show up all over town on the same day and make me happy because they mean it’s spring.” Then, to make sure she understood, I pointed to three examples on the parking strip across the street from our house.

The tree is going to go — I hate just “throwing it away” so if anyone thinks they want it, I’ll be happy to supply a shovel and appropriate cheerleading as it disappears from my life. Then I can plant “the real deal.”

[charlabob]

I’m having the best time reading this group — brings back great memories of what grows in Boston, where I lived for 20 years and where the crocuses actually showed up through snow.

Unfortunately, I can’t crawl around on the ground and dig right now — the spirit is willing but the body won’t. Does anyone know a source of gardening “tools” and methods for the less than able bodied? I’m thinking raised beds would help; garden tools that can be used from a chair — what else should I do? I know I can hire someone but it’s just not the same.

tia, etc.

[WSMom]

Walfredo, these sound like Obama’s words, but you’ve left out who gave this speech, when & where.

[c@lbob]

beachdrivegirl

Thanks for that, I didn’t know that Mark Penn was recruited to the Clinton camp by Dick Morris, who was himself an exceedingly bad choice for adviser by Bill Clinton.

I know now what Morris saw in him, though.