ZONING CHANGES: With big public hearing next week, last-minute Alki ‘Neighborhood Center’ proposal gets scrutinized

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

In a week and a half, the City Council will listen to what might be hundreds of speakers at the last major public hearing on the first phase of the Comprehensive Plan – aka One Seattle Plan – which is meant to guide the city’s growth for the next 20 years.

Upzoning has been the focus of what’s working its way through the system, dating back to the unveiling of proposed maps last October. The plan details included new terminology for new types of zones, including Neighborhood Centers envisioned as hubs of businesses and denser housing. We first reported, after that unveiling, on seven West Seattle areas proposed for the Neighborhood Center designation – north to south:

*Delridge (centered on Delridge/Dakota)
*Brandon Junction (centered on Delridge/Brandon)
*Fairmount (centered on California/Findlay)
*High Point (centered on 35th/Morgan)
*Holden (centered on 35th/Holden)
*Upper Fauntleroy (centered on 35th/Barton)
*Endolyne (centered on 45th/Wildwood)

We also noted in our initial report that the city had considered three other West Seattle areas as potential Neighborhood Centers but decided against the designation:

*Alki (would have been centered on 61st/Stevens)
*Sylvan Junction (would have been centered on Delridge/Orchard)
*Highland Park (would have been centered on 9th/Trenton)

Now, one of the 106 amendments that councilmembers have proposed for the Comp Plan/rezoning would resuscitate the idea of an Alki neighborhood center. And Alki neighborhood advocates say that shouldn’t happen without a chance for them to be part of the process – more than just having their say at the upcoming eleventh-hour public hearing.

The Alki NC proposal is in the 34th amendment in this package of amendments, one of eight neighborhood centers that citywide Councilmember Alexis Mercedes Rinck wants to add to the plan (none of the other seven are in West Seattle) with support of a housing-advocacy organization. This amendment starts on page 56 of the 424-page document with all councilmembers’ proposals. Her amendment describes the proposed Alki neighborhood center as follows:

1. Alki (District 1)

This amendment would create a new Alki Neighborhood Center generally located west of 59th Avenue (SW), north of SW Hinds Street and south and east of Alki Avenue SW (Council District 1). It would encompass approximately 95 acres.

The area to be included in the Neighborhood Center includes a mixture of Neighborhood residential zoning, generally to the south, Lowrise 1, 2, and 3 zoning in the middle and west of the proposed center, and Neighborhood Commercial 1-40 zoning along Alki Avenue SW in the northeast corner of the proposed district. The area contains mostly single-family homes in the Neighborhood Residential zone, multifamily buildings in the lowrise zones, and a mix of commercial, mixed-use and multifamily structures in the Neighborhood Commercial zoned area. In addition to the section of commercial zoning proposed to be included in the neighborhood center, the commercial district extends three blocks east along Alki Avenue SW outside of the proposed boundaries. In addition, there are a number of parks in the area, including Alki Beach, Bar-S Playground and Alki Playground.

Bus stops for the 50 and 56 bus routes are located along SW Admiral Way, 63rd Avenue SW, 61st Avenue SW and Alki Avenue SW. The 775 bus route runs westbound along SW Admiral Way, north of 63rd Avenue SW, and eastbound along Alki Avenue SW. None of these routes individually meets the definition of providing frequent transit service. The areas farthest from the transit stops are approximately one half mile (2,640 feet) from the center of the proposed neighborhood center.

“Neighborhood center” was originally defined by the city as:

… places with a variety of housing options centered around a local commercial district and/or major transit stop (such as RapidRide). They typically serve as focal points within neighborhoods, offering shops, services, grocery stores, restaurants, and more. These places are suitable for residential and mixed-use buildings up to six stories in the core and smaller apartment buildings on the periphery. Neighborhood centers should generally encompass areas within 800 feet, or one to three blocks, of the central intersection or transit stop.

Councilmember Rinck’s amendment notes that some of her proposed additions (obviously including Alki) don’t fit the definition;

Many of the proposed boundaries of these Neighborhood Centers include areas that are significantly more than 800 feet from the central intersection of the center or a bus rapid stop. Consequently, the boundaries that would be adopted through this amendment are generally not consistent with Comprehensive Plan policy GS 5.4 which states: “GS 5.4 Determine the boundaries of Neighborhood Centers based on local conditions, but generally include areas within a 3-minute walk (800 feet) of the central intersection or bus rapid transit stop. ”

If the Council wants to adopt the boundaries for the new centers as proposed under this amendment, it should also amend this policy to allow greater flexibility in the configuration of neighborhood center boundaries.

While the originally proposed Neighborhood Centers around the city have been up for scrutiny and feedback dating to last October, the ones Councilmember Rinck seeks to add, including Alki, have not, and the Alki Community Council is voicing concern about that, sending the ACC mailing list an alert today, saying in part:

your voice will not be heard unless you message City Council that Alki deserves the same education, workshops, and outreach that the 30 other designated Neighborhood Centers received before zoning is approved. To compare public information in the 30 other Neighborhood Centers, here is a synopsis below from the city webpage. Alki deserves to be treated equally and fairly.

Outreach & Timeline in 30 Neighborhood Centers
Oct 16, 2024 – Dec. City launches One Seattle Plan zoning update website; 60-day public comment period opens.
Dec 20, 2024 – Public comment period closes.
May 2025 – Mayor introduces plan to City Council with 30 Neighborhood Centers (Alki still excluded after feasibility analysis).
July 31, 2025 – CM Rinck [proposes amending] plan to add back Alki and the other excluded neighborhoods, just weeks before the Sept. 19 vote — leaving no time for public education or feedback in Alki.
Aug 9, 2025 – CM Rinck’s staff holds a small unadvertised meeting in Alki to discuss rezoning.

If you aren’t on the ACC list and therefore haven’t seen it, you can read the full email, including information on how to comment, by going here.

(Regarding the “small unadvertised meeting” last month, we can confirm there was no media notification. One attendee, community advocate Steve Pumphrey, described it to neighbors in a message about the proposed rezoning, saying that he “attended a less than well-publicized (there were just four legitimate Alki residents that I could see) community meeting that was supposed to be for fact finding and community feedback. It was nothing more than a sales pitch.”

Councilmembers are scheduled to vote on the 100+ amendments, and the rest of the Comprehensive Plan’s Phase 1, the week after the September 12 public hearing, so that they can finalize it before spending more than two months focused on the budget, as happens every fall. In urging people to offer feedback, pro, con, or otherwise, ACC president Charlotte Starck says, “Your voice matters — no matter your opinion on how Alki growth evolves. What’s unacceptable is eliminating Alki’s voice altogether.” Testimony will be accepted in person and online during the two-session hearing on Friday, September 12 – 9:30 am and 3 pm; the agenda explains how to participate, as does the ACC email linked above. (Also on the agenda, links to everything that’s currently up for consideration.)

88 Replies to "ZONING CHANGES: With big public hearing next week, last-minute Alki 'Neighborhood Center' proposal gets scrutinized"

  • krl September 3, 2025 (12:10 am)

    Adding 95 acres of Alki into this plan at the last minute with no community input is not acceptable. Our community should be given opportunity to have the same conversations and input that the other communities in this plan were given. Alki has unique topography, historical significance, and environmental impact issues that need a great deal of consideration before anything like this is thrown into a city plan. I forwarded the email from Alki Community Council, with instructions for commenting, to several neighbors. In addition, all three members of our household have submitted the reconsideration letter via email to city council members.  The letter and city council email addresses can be found  in the link included in this article. Our neighborhood is special, the residents are special, and our community and environment deserve better than this.

    • Arch Stanton September 3, 2025 (1:31 am)

      Almost any 100 acre swathe in the city has “historical and ecological significance.” What others don’t have is the artificially inflated home value that Alki has. Time to bring density to the NIMBYs.

      • Anne September 3, 2025 (8:13 am)

        Yes I agree every 100 acre swath is unique -not necessarily in the same  historical/ecological way-like Alki -but every community should be able to have input & conversations about development that will have significant  impact on them. 

      • wscommuter September 3, 2025 (8:44 am)

        I’m not an Alki resident, so this doesn’t affect me.  But I’m curious about what you mean by “artificially inflated home value that Alki has”?   How are home values “artificially inflated” there?  I’m not tracking.

      • Al King September 3, 2025 (8:54 am)

        Arch. Using the “NIMBY” whistle is a sure sign of not have any rational response to the people who live in the affected area. What ” artificially inflated values” do the renters have? Also, please provide proof your home does not have an artificially inflated value.

        • B September 3, 2025 (11:58 am)

          An interesting side note, many people are unknowingly influenced via social media when it comes to dividing citizens into ‘enemy’ groups, such as nimbys, boomers, wokeness, immigrants,  etc,   Here’s and AI quote from google:

          “Russian disinformation campaigns exploit a wide range of social issues to divide Americans, including those related to social justice (“woke” issues), racism, and local conflicts like housing (“NIMBY“).  Rather than targeting a single group, Russia creates and amplifies polarizing content aimed at various political factions to create chaos and undermine trust in American institutions.”

          • Bint September 3, 2025 (6:49 pm)

            1. AI is not a good source and frequently makes false claims. Read and cite real sources. 2. What exactly are you suggesting? Should I not oppose racist or other malign political actors simply because Russia might appreciate the division? If I have a genuine disagreement with someone, I am going to stand for what I believe is right.

          • B September 3, 2025 (8:42 pm)

            BLINT, you should absolutely stand your ground for what you believe is right.  The problem is with creating groups of people that are demonized, such as NIMBY’s or drag queens or foreigners, and then attacking the group instead of the individuals that you disagree with.   This leads to the potential stereotyping of all members of the group.  Then all homeowners become selfish, all drag queens become child groomers,  all foreigners become criminals, etc.

      • Stephen September 3, 2025 (2:03 pm)

        Last time I was in the Alki neighborhood I noticed multiple houses that were either new builds or complete renovations whose architecture was completely distinct from the surrounding houses and completely indistinguishable from any of the new townhome complexes that have gone up all over the city.

        Is the difference that you have to be ungodly rich to do that? I guess that’s in keeping with the neighborhood character, but I’m otherwise unclear how townhomes would destroy the neighborhood since their architectural clones already exist in the area.

        • AL September 5, 2025 (9:56 am)

          The zoning that we’re talking about in a Neighborhood Center is 5-story buildings. Not townhouses. Townhomes and many other multifamily forms can now be on any property thanks to HB1110 which basically outlawed single family housing zoning.

      • T Rex September 3, 2025 (9:45 pm)

        Arch, every single person who lives by the water, above the water etc is priced higher for that reason, THE VIEW.  It is not overpriced in any way. Alki is a special place to live and for all who do, I tip my hat to you for your success in life! No jealously here! I think this idea is horrible for many reasons but I’ll keep it to myself. 

    • Kyle September 3, 2025 (5:50 am)

      Why don’t you go to one of the two public meetings then? Looks like you’re being given the chance to comment and nothing you’ve said has persuaded me that a neighborhood center shouldn’t be built on Alki. Probably should have been there from the beginning. Looking forward to more housing choices and transit to actually be able to visit Alki 

      • Anne September 3, 2025 (8:08 am)

        KRL didn’t say it shouldn’t happen-they said it shouldn’t happen without community input & conversation. I think that’s a fair point.

      • KRL September 3, 2025 (9:16 am)

        I think residents of each community have the right to provide input and feedback. My point is that Alki was added at the final hour and residents weren’t clearly notified that there was a meeting they could attend. I have lived in the Alki community for over 20 years and I pay attention to opportunities to be educated on changes and to be able to comment. I didn’t see anything about the meeting. I would have attended.

        • WSB September 3, 2025 (10:37 am)

          I apologize that we didn’t hear of this meeting either, otherwise we not only would have announced it, we would have covered it.

        • Kyle September 3, 2025 (11:42 am)

          Okay, but what don’t you understand? You’re commenting here and none of your vague arguments are any different than anywhere else in the city (they also have historical, environmental, and topography considerations).

  • K September 3, 2025 (3:11 am)

    This particular city council has never been interested in community input.  Not sure why you thought this would be different.  Remember how these people feel about their constituents when you vote in November.

  • SLJ September 3, 2025 (7:17 am)

    Neighborhood Centers are a great idea. I would love to have a little grocery store I could easily walk to. Not sure why the one that was on Alki a few years ago didn’t make it. Alki is a great place for this–the area already has a lot of density with apartments and condos. Alki Elementary is going to be huge, so adding density works from that standpoint. And yes, I live in the zone.

    • Al King September 3, 2025 (8:47 am)

      There was a good-sized grocery store at 61st & Alki. It couldn’t compete with the big grocers on price, so most people only bought emergency/last minute groceries. Otherwise, they’d just drive up the hill to Safeway or Met Market.

    • Brandon September 3, 2025 (11:25 am)

      The store, like many other small businesses and restaurants didn’t make it because the city takes anti-business actions while saying they want growth. They campaign on fixing the problem they created and get the votes because they blame boogeymen, meanwhile continuing their same policies. Then everyone scratches their heads wondering if they’re wrong, only to determine reality is, so they repeat the cycle again.

  • Rob September 3, 2025 (9:04 am)

    Don’t forget to ask about the new zoning where no mater where you live someone can there down an put up a 4 plex town home right next to your house with no parking

    • WSB September 3, 2025 (9:17 am)

      That’s already law – three units have been allowed on most lots for years, and that’s now upped to four units. This isn’t law yet, and includes more extensive rezoning.

  • Foop September 3, 2025 (9:44 am)

    Council Member Rinck literally rode her bike here a few weekends ago to engage with the community. To say there’s been no warning is a lie and disingenuous at best.this amendment would be a boon for Alki, more neighbors, albeit smaller housing, no big apartments just more in the middle housing range, more allowance for restaurants and coffee shops that are not all confined to a busy road full of cars and pollution, and maybe even a grocer on Alki that we all yearn for. Add all that and the next step is pushing for more transit service and proving its use!

    • KRL September 3, 2025 (11:07 am)

      No need to make a rude and personal comment. Even WSB says they didn’t know about the meeting. I would not lie or be disingenuous. My initial comment was to say that our community deserves to be able to understand in detail what is being proposed and to have TIME to comment. A city council member riding her bike through the neighborhood is hardly notification. Anyway, that is all I have to say. We will see what happens. 

    • Frog September 3, 2025 (11:31 am)

      This will not be a boon for Alki.  Ultimately, every single family homeowner in a “neighborhood center” will be forced out.  People who thought they had their forever home will now have to plan on leaving, sooner or later.  Poo hoo say the density people, but it’s not a boon to these residents.  Also, Alki is already beyond jammed in the summer with current density.  Fill it with six-story apartment buildings, and how will that work?  Oh, and sorry I don’t read Rinck’s social media feed, so I am generally not up to date on her weekend plans.

      • walkerws September 3, 2025 (12:17 pm)

        How will this force out SFH owners? There’s no reason it would do so.

        • Frog September 3, 2025 (2:09 pm)

          When the lot to your south is sold (something over which you have no control, of course), developers will build a six-story apartment building five feet from your property line, plunging your house and yard into permanent shade.  Not to mention all the extra noise, traffic, dumpsters and concrete.  There goes your quality of life.  Meanwhile, the county will be jacking your property taxes on the theory that you could also sell to a developer.  So there you are, paying extortionate property taxes to live in your “Up” house and never see the sun.  Why do that?  You are effectively forced out.   This is a feature, not a bug — upzoning is designed to increase density, which means it’s designed to get rid of single family houses, and convert the area to apartment buildings.  No one is marched off their property by the sheriff, but the policy is designed to focus powerful incentives on people to give up and leave.  It’s weird that proponents deny this.

          • walkerws September 3, 2025 (2:25 pm)

            As a single family homeowner, cool I guess. Chances are higher than a threeplex would be built near me, not an apartment building. And if it raises my property value enough and lowers my quality of life enough that I sell to a developer and move somewhere else, so be it. Who cares. People need housing.

          • Delridge420 September 4, 2025 (12:22 am)

            Proponents deny this because this is literally not true, this is just dreaming up dystopian scenarios to justify NIMBYism. 

      • k September 3, 2025 (12:18 pm)

        There is nothing in this proposal that requires people to move.  It allows greater density, but it does not require it.  When residents leave, the next owner can decide if they want the house to stay or to develop the place.  What will most likely happen is that we will see much of what we see now, which is only the derelict properties being torn down to make way for multi-family buildings.  The sky is not falling, Chicken Little.

      • T September 3, 2025 (12:32 pm)

        @Frog it is the single family homeowners that sell their properties to developers that allow these changes to happen. If single family homeowners want the neighborhood to stay as is, don’t sell. 

      • Kathy September 3, 2025 (12:57 pm)

        I don’t get why you think we will be forced out. No one can force you to sell your forever home.

        • Kyle September 3, 2025 (1:24 pm)

          The process takes 5-15 years typically depending on how many poor condition houses there are. Typically the poor condition houses get tore down first, because they cost a lot to rehab and now you can make more money building new bigger buildings and developers usually buy them. Then the good condition home owners sell because they no longer have privacy given the big buildings peering over their lot, and again, usually developers buy because no one wants a single family home with no privacy for the price; when you again can make more money redeveloping the lot. We do need more density and homes of all sizes so my kids can afford to live here, but you are being disingenuous when you act like this won’t totally disrupt an established neighborhood and will be the death knell of what it once was. However, we should have done this on a smaller scale 15-20 years ago so it wouldn’t feel so jarring but we didn’t, so now you get step function density everywhere or we will have full on generations of people where living on Alki (and other places in Seattle) will be unaffordable.

        • Frog September 3, 2025 (2:24 pm)

          Kyle has it mostly right, but I would add one dynamic.  Some urbanists playing their tiny violin imagine that SF homeowners will get a golden parachute on their way out, selling for a big profit.  But weird things happen to valuations with this sort of abrupt upzoning.  The value of your house falls toward zero as quality of life erodes, and all the value is in the land.  Dumpy old houses on large lots might actually profit from the change, because their land value rises enough to cover the lost value of the structure.  Owners of renovated, enlarged or recently built houses might face six-figure losses.  Owners of a lovely Mcmodern, valued at a million dollars by the county in their most recent tax assessment, might find that it actually lowers their sale price, because it costs the developer more to scrape and haul away the debris.  Meanwhile, the county is over-taxing everyone, because they are giving out valuations based on the sum of the prior value of the structure, and the new inflated value of the lot.

          • Cori Roed September 4, 2025 (11:20 am)

            Wetone… good point! You never want to be the last house standing. 

    • Al King September 3, 2025 (11:36 am)

      Foop. You know of restaurant owners that actually want to come to Alki? Please share. And yearned for market? Used to be a market where La Rustica is. A couple blocks to the north was a mini mart on the water side. Was a big market at 61st and Alki. They all closed for lack of customers. Seems they were patronized for last minute, or urgent item that was needed but otherwise people drove by on their way to cheaper groceries. 

      • Sal Queen September 3, 2025 (6:54 pm)

        A neighborhood with more housing and more residents could support businesses that aren’t viable under current conditions. 

      • Foop September 3, 2025 (8:34 pm)

        Al, your argument against density is that Alki doesn’t have the density to support local businesses? … okay.

        • WS Person September 3, 2025 (10:18 pm)

          No, the density has been here. People don’t want to support the mom and pop businesses no matter what the virtue signaling minority says.  Thank you Frog for saying what actually happens. Why not build the density center down 35th or Fauntleroy where there is a mild semblance of infrastructure road.  

          • Delridge420 September 4, 2025 (11:07 am)

            lol the excuses people dream up to justify not doing anything. It isn’t that people don’t want to support mom and pop businesses, it’s that those businesses can’t survive on the static, aging population of boomers: the only people that can afford to live within walking distance. They need a larger customer base and density makes that possible. 

    • Keenan September 3, 2025 (2:27 pm)

      Convenient you didn’t mention the enormous profit homeowners in this scenario would make. So sad, being “forced” to relocate with nothing but the millions of dollars in your bank account that enables you to buy an (even larger) brand new home anywhere in America less dense than Seattle.  

      • Brandon September 3, 2025 (4:23 pm)

        Homeowners profit off of who’s dime? The buyers aren’t going to be people opting in for a SFH residence, they want the land, they’re going to buy, destroy, rebuild and then rent out the MFH complexes, or do condos with little space for a new family to thrive. As Frog said, this is a feature, not a bug.

      • KRL September 3, 2025 (10:08 pm)

        This comment about making a profit from selling our homes is upsetting because it makes it clear that there are people that  just don’t get it. We CHOSE Alki as our community  and invested in our home 22+ years ago because we love the area, our neighbors, and the neighborhood. The dollars we could potentially earn with these zoning changes by selling our homes are NOT the issue. These are our HOMES. We do not want to sell. We want to LIVE here, as part of our community. 

        • walkerws September 4, 2025 (9:13 am)

          And you can continue to live there as part of the community. You don’t have any right to the community not changing. If you don’t like how it changes, you can sell and move.

          • What do I know September 4, 2025 (7:28 pm)

            Members of a community have a right to say how it should change, primarily through the exercise of free speech and other forms of civic engagement. This right is a cornerstone of democratic societies and is fundamental to positive community development. 

  • Walk a walka September 3, 2025 (10:56 am)

    Seattle is in a housing affordability crisis, and welcoming a few more
    neighbors to Alki where there are parks, schools, transit, and shops seems
    like a reasonable idea.It’s disappointing WSB only linked to NIMBYs for how to get involved in this process. I found the Complete Communities Coalition which is supportive of more neighborhood centers, and they have a positive form letter you can send, or learn how to give public comment here. 

    • WSB September 5, 2025 (10:33 am)

      The Housing Development Consortium IS linked in the story.

  • Alkigurrrrrl September 3, 2025 (10:59 am)

    Alki needs a grocery store! Would love to be able to walk or ride my bike to a real grocery store at Alki rather than driving up to Admiral to grocery shop. Alki is a real neighborhood and real neighborhoods need services like groceries,  pharmacies, etc.

    • Al King September 3, 2025 (4:43 pm)

      Alkigrl. By my count just on Alki there was a large grocery store a smaller one and a mini mart. They all disappeared because Alki residents would only buy emergency/last minute items otherwise they’d drive to the big box stores for cheaper prices. And, if memory is correct wasn’t there a drug store at 61st and Alki? 

  • The Owl Family September 3, 2025 (11:03 am)

    Not everyone wants to live in a dense, urban environment (read: we love our greenspace).  And I’m sorry if *my greenspace* conflicts with your desire to live close to the water & the water taxi.  My lot is an enviable & very private 16,000 sqft … enough for my house & garage, & a family of owls … and I’m not changing it anytime soon. 

    • John September 5, 2025 (4:29 pm)

      Completely behind you there and agree with you! We’ve been forced to pay a lot in property taxes to live in a beautiful area and it seems like they want to destroy it in the name of affordable housing which will be anything but affordable. They used to be so many small mom and pop businesses that have been driven out by all this development.

  • UA September 3, 2025 (11:12 am)

    Does this mean the little league baseball field  could be developed for high density housing?

    • WSB September 5, 2025 (10:34 am)

      It’s parkland. Laws prevent turning over parkland without a replacement somewhere else, which would be basically impossible.

  • MrsShaw September 3, 2025 (11:19 am)

    I’m upset that this issue is arising at the last minute and without the traditional (albeit substandard) community outreach. I attended the first One Seattle Plan event presented at Madison Middle School  (2023 or 24?), and told City staff  that Alki needed to be added to their  comp plan efforts, for numerous reasons. They replied that it didn’t meet the shape requirements, and would not be considered. I learned about Rincks’ housing advocacy organization event at noon the day it  occured. I offered to attend, but was told it was by invitation only. There was no advertising in West Seattle that I was aware of.  Holding a closed event  in Alki does not constitute true public outreach.  Why oh why can’t the right hand communicate with the left hand?

  • Frog September 3, 2025 (11:19 am)

    At a minimum, this proposal shouldn’t be rushed through at the last minute: 1) to allow consideration of the exact boundaries.  How was it decided whose quality of life should be erased, and who should be spared?  I always wonder who is the VIP by constellation park who has such influence over city policy, first to get their street closed, and now to protect them from this “neighborhood center.”  Why cut off the zone at Hinds and exclude Constellation Park?  Also, why was the boundary not placed further east, up Alki Ave. instead of south of Admiral and west of 63rd?   And 2) the neighborhood consists mostly of nominally two-way one-lane streets.  Can such narrow streets really be lined with six-story apartment buildings?  If the density people want to turn Alki into Miami Beach, it might make more sense  in the long run to bulldoze the whole neighborhood and redraw the street map in a manner suited to that level of density.

  • TAnderson September 3, 2025 (11:41 am)

    Not fully understanding why a Metropolitan Market, Safeway and PCC all within walking distance or a short car ride isn’t good enough? 

    • WS Person September 3, 2025 (10:21 pm)

      They are. And the people that keep saying they want a grocery store on Alki don’t remember when we had one and no one used it because it wasn’t cheap and didn’t stock what people need.  All the folks that keep wanting such high density should move to Belltown or Lower Queen Anne. 

  • Alex September 3, 2025 (11:41 am)

    Fauntleroy was proposed as a Neighborhood Center with all the blocks within a 4 minute walk of Endolyne Joes rezoned as 5 story apartment buildings with 5 foot setbacks (trees anyone?).  That was about a year ago and since then residents have doorbelled to get the word out, wrote over 700 letters to Saka, gave Saka  a tour and asked the Council to shrink this NC.   Alki, this late in the game won’t have the time to make their opinion known and that is patently unfair.   In addition to the NC business, the Council has also done away with the Alki Overlay area which required 1 and 1/2 offstreet parking spaces per apartment unit.  The Comprehensive Plan also rezones homes that are on transit as 5 story apartment buildings with 5 foot setbacks.   All the homes on the east side of Fauntleroy between the dock and California as well as the homes on the north side of Barton between the Schoolhouse and 35th are proposed as 5 story apartment buildings.   By 2040, WSF is estimating a little under 2M cars will use the Fauntleroy Ferry Dock annually and I cringe to add apartment buildings to that unruly afternoon and weekend queue.

  • Kathy September 3, 2025 (12:47 pm)

    Alki is already pretty dense, especially every sunny day in summer and every sunny weekend the rest of the year. Highrise condos line Alki Avenue. And yet our public transportation is a now a shadow of what it was years ago when our neighborhood was much less dense. We had a community center in Alki that had classes for adults which evaporated to become only child care with pottery sort of coming back to the Bathhouse. What if we got some of these long lost amenities back instead of some vague promise that they might come back if we pack in more people(and cars)? I agree there should be more community engagement for this decision. I am not a nimbyist in general but after 47 years living here I have witnessed how Alki and North Admiral have long been neglected by SDOT and Seattle Parks. I say we demand some action from the city about rebuilding our neighborhood amenities now as we are building more housing. 

    • EMK September 3, 2025 (5:02 pm)

      CM Rinck addressed at least part of this question at the meeting she held. Apparently KC Metro makes decisions about the level of service based on how many people live in a particular area. That’s obviously not ideal for a place like Alki, where so much of the traffic (especially in the summer) comes from visitors, not residents. But it does mean that increasing the number of people who live here could lead to more investment and better service from agencies like Metro.I completely agree that we need better service now, not later. But I also think it strengthens the case for more frequent and reliable transit if we have more year-round residents depending on it. Plus, with reduced parking requirements, we’d ideally see fewer cars and more people walking, biking, or using transit, which would make the neighborhood safer and more enjoyable for everyone.So yes, it’s a bit of a chicken-and-egg issue. But thoughtful growth could actually help bring back some of those lost amenities and provide hard-to-ignore reasons for the city and agencies to invest in Alki.

  • anonyme September 3, 2025 (12:48 pm)

    I find it interesting that there is NOTHING being considered near Arbor Heights, which has no amenities whatsoever.  35th & Roxbury would be a perfect location for commercial development that would serve the community.  Upper Fauntleroy is the closest “hub” but is still a drive away for not much in the way of services.   An AH center makes way more sense than Endolyne, which is densely residential.  And btw, I think KRL is entirely justified in expecting to be involved in community planning.  It’s so hypocritical to insist that citizens either not give a crap or risk being called a NIMBY.  You just can’t win.

    • HS September 3, 2025 (1:42 pm)

      I can’t answer your question about Arbor Heights other than these locations are based around the urban villages/neighborhoods that stem from urban growth planning from the 70’s. And right now Roxbury is White Center, not Seattle.

  • Gennessee Valley September 3, 2025 (12:50 pm)

    In my mind, there are two very different “Alki” neighborhoods… Alki in the summer months and Alki in the winter months.  In the summer Alki is crazy busy but in the winter it’s fairly calm.  Trying to move  on-street public transit through that area in the summer is going to be a challenge.  

  • Stephen September 3, 2025 (1:58 pm)

    Slightly off topic here as this pertains to the High Point neighborhood center:

    Curious what Saka’s amendment 36 (attached) practically does…

    The added block (Raymond -> Graham, East of 35th) already contains the library, an apartment building with retail, and townhomes from the High Point redevelopment.  It doesn’t seem like there’s going to be new or denser building on that block. The cynic in me wonders if it is just a meaningless addition so that Saka can counter criticisms of his requests to shrink other centers (such as the Morgan Junction and Fauntleroy centers), but I don’t know enough about the practical effects of these changes to understand if there’s any functional benefit to changing the zoning around the block in question. 

  • Mike September 3, 2025 (3:07 pm)

    Calling this re-zone a “Neighborhood Center” is very misleading. Some think it is just a new Community Center building. What the “Complete Communities Coalition” is proposing is only ½ true. Their
    proposal will increase density, but it will not add affordable
    housing.
    We would actually lose affordable housing.
    Allowing
    to overbuild the neighborhoods with multi-family buildings or Flats as they
    referred to in their promotional materials, will not provide affordable
    housing. The reality of their proposal and plan will remove and replace
    affordable single-family residences, duplexes and triplexes that are currently affordable and below what they would have to charge for rent from new
    buildings and Flats.
    The
    “Jansen Court Apartments” they use in their promotional pieces as low-income
    affordable housing currently are marketing a 329 sq. ft studio apartment for
    $2,000.00. That is not what most would consider to be affordable housing. 

    On Alki you can currently rent much larger apartments,
    condominiums, duplexes and triplexes for much less. You can even get a yard,
    off street parking, garages and some views for much less than what could ever
    be built to replace the current housing stock. Our neighborhood is just
    fine without allowing what many of us consider to be out of control zoning,
    building to add more density with no parking.
    Most
    who actually live and work in the Alki Community don’t want more density. We
    already have serious parking shortages, traffic congestion, inadequate parking,
    etc.  
    This zoning will ruin the neighborhood environment that makes Alki so desirable and such a special place to live.

    • Brandon September 3, 2025 (4:31 pm)

      Well, they’re not going to be honest and say their goal is bringing back tenements.  I suppose they could and still get approval, but SOME people might understand those what that means and frown.

    • KRL September 3, 2025 (9:50 pm)

      Mike, your voice is the most reasonable I have read in this thread. You are correct on all fronts. In the 22 years we have been homeowners in Alki, the past six to ten years have seen the most change, in my opinion. We are yet to see affordable housing. It seems that the majority of what sells is purchased by a developer that then builds a large townhouse,  3-plex, or 4-plex with three stories plus a rooftop deck that then sells for $1 mil to $3 mil per unit. Just asking….. what is the end goal? To have zero single family dwellings? I have seen a few comments here that mention people selling their properties for millions and then leaving and that those people should feel lucky. Do the people making these comments not understand that these are our homes and this a community that we love? This is WAY beyond making a dollar. This is about sustaining a neighborhood that is filled with people that want to be here and ARE NOT in it to make a dollar.

      • WS Person September 3, 2025 (10:31 pm)

        People try to say “well you’re making money, so you can’t complain” but for so many (us) we moved here and struggled to do so because we wanted this as our home. Decade’s later we’ve watched the rezoning change the face of the neighborhood into one with less sense of community or belonging.  Every day people complain about the traffic in Alki, but this move seems to kill the natural environment even more and increase traffic and congestion. Maybe the city should do away with rental increase caps. Let the landlord make what they can. The city is going to do what it can to increase its property tax level and bills.  This whole event to try to pass this within the actual community involvement is gross.  

        • walkerws September 4, 2025 (9:14 am)

          Buying a home gives you zero right to an unchanging neighborhood.

    • J September 4, 2025 (8:52 am)

      Density = Affordability. There was a lady living on 61st who had a single home on a double lot that she sold to a contractor for 1.1 or .2 million.  The contractor changed it into 2 single family lots.On each lot he built a single family home (1.1 M) an attached home (700,000) and a detached home (800,000).  I think I’m right on those numbers.  Not sure if that’s what you call affordable but it got the density part right.  I think that’s what we can look forward to in the future.  Now I have no way of knowing for sure but I would wager maybe half if not more of the renters in this city would love nothing more than to live in a single family home with a yard and garden.  I find it a little ironic that it’s exactly what they demand we change.I moved here into a SF home with a yard because that was what I wanted and my neighbors did too.  If I wanted to live in a high density canyon land I would of done that 35 years ago.  What I see their building now are just stairwells with expanded landings and no yards.  I don’t want to spend most of my life in a building.I realize our population is growing and land is finite but there must be a compromise where the new ideals don’t steamroller over the old ones.

  • MG September 3, 2025 (4:08 pm)

    Calling this re-zone a
    “Neighborhood Center” is very misleading. Some think it is
    just a new Community Center building.  
    What the “Complete
    Communities Coalition” is proposing is only ½ true.  Their 
    proposal will increase
    density, but it will not add affordable housing as they claim. We will actually lose affordable housing. T
    heir
    proposal and plan will remove and replace 
    affordable single-family
    residences, duplexes and triplexes that are currently rented for less than they will charge for their newly built housing and Flats.  The Flats they have built, and reference in their marketing materials are 400 sq. ft. studios that rent for over $2,000.00.
    Currently on Alki you can rent much larger apartments, duplexes, triplexes and condo’s for much less and get a yard, off street parking, garages and some views. this proposed zoning will ruin our Alki neighborhood environment that makes Alki so desirable and such a special place. 

  • aRF September 3, 2025 (4:19 pm)

    How can this be anything other than an attempt to sneak through an amendment? Not only is this late in the game, but any good faith attempt at public outreach would involve a simple email to the West Seattle Blog and full-throated communication with the ACC. These are either conscious decisions or careless incompetence, neither of which suggests concern for the neighborhood. I am not necessarily opposed to this rezoning, but it is hard for me to imagine this turning out as anything other than a developer boondoggle for Alki. The city has shorted the neighborhood (and adjoining neighborhoods) in terms of public transit, and public safety is intermittent. Show me you can deliver these things now. I’m tired of unkept promises.

  • Denise smith September 3, 2025 (6:20 pm)

    Has someone forgotten that Alki where Seattle was founded?  That the residents pay high amounts of tax dollars and the city of Seattle puts money everywhere but there.  A small amount is spent on guys pouring wate4 on a campfire a5 9:30 daily. The new waterfront is beautiful in downtown.  Have you seen how Alki is not cared for.  Nevermind the crime rate.  Anywhere people pay the amount of taxes that we do in Alki they see the taxes going to their area.  Seems since west Seattle decided to annex to the city many years ago … it was a usual grab the taxes for the city to use as they see fit and offer services. the city of Seattle has stolen tax money from Alki residence and let it fall into ruin. Considering it was the birth place , the city of Seattle should take pride in this area.i suppose if they change zoning they could capitalize on tax gains from building it up.

  • DeadEnder September 3, 2025 (7:18 pm)

    One question.Where is everyone going to park? Two things you can’t change. We live on a beach peninsula, and folks that already can’t afford to live here will still want to congregate here. So, how do ANY vendors protect their parking? How many businesses have to fail every winter before you realize… it is a destination, not a thoroughfare. Time to re-think this debacle of an idea.

    • Kyle September 3, 2025 (8:19 pm)

      Just two months ago Alki turned down 150 parking spots on Alki in favor of curb paint out of fear that parking causes crime. 

    • Foop September 4, 2025 (8:24 am)

      This comment is literally: “nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded”

      • Mike September 20, 2025 (8:49 am)

        It’s crowded in the summer and dead in the winter which is wonderful.  Please don’t come back.

  • Denise smith September 4, 2025 (5:44 am)

    Has someone forgotten that Alki where Seattle was founded?  That the residents pay high amounts of tax dollars and the city of Seattle puts money everywhere but there.  A small amount is spent on guys pouring wate4 on a campfire a5 9:30 daily. The new waterfront is beautiful in downtown.  Have you seen how Alki is not cared for.  Nevermind the crime rate.  Anywhere people pay the amount of taxes that we do in Alki they see the taxes going to their area.  Seems since west Seattle decided to annex to the city many years ago … it was a usual grab the taxes for the city to use as they see fit and offer services. the city of Seattle has stolen tax money from Alki residence and let it fall into ruin. Considering it was the birth place , the city of Seattle should take pride in this area.i suppose if they change zoning they could capitalize on tax gains from building it up.

    • TAnderson September 5, 2025 (11:56 am)

      Agree. Any city anywhere would love to have a crown jewel like Alki. Instead of treating the area as something special for Seattle residents and visitors alike the City Council seems satisfied that crime, drag racing, back-firing cars and all-night parties resulting in fights and trash are all that it is good for………could you imagine any other city doing anything other than treasuring Alki vs. trying to use it for some imagined under-utilized land on which to build denser and denser housing?

  • Canton September 4, 2025 (7:15 am)

    The rezoning concept is to take 1 taxable parcel and create 3-4 separate taxable parcels. Hence tripling or quadrupling the taxable outcome.

    • J September 4, 2025 (8:42 pm)

      BINGO!

    • John September 5, 2025 (4:32 pm)

      Exactly this is all about greed They don’t care about housing or affordability especially when oftentimes these condos that they put in after tearing down a home end up being valued higher than the house that was there

  • wetone September 4, 2025 (9:46 am)

    Moves like this rezone as with many others area in Seattle show the true incompetence in real life experience with-in  Seattle government or a true agenda to rid city of families and green space (yards). Has nothing to do about affordable housing as mayor Harrell and city council are saying for the reasoning behind all these changes. Their move will drive cost up as dirt values rise as builders and investors can build more units per square foot of property. You will see lots going for a $$$ million dollars soon.  House on lot torn down, replaced with 4-6+ units, high restrictions raised, 10’ setback from sidewalks and driveway on property line. Then sold per unit for more than original price of property. Winner is investors and city, as city tax base is increased and the homes  in these areas also receive tax increases due to higher selling averages. City has done little towards infrastructure improvements in Seattle, so get ready for levy’s to pay for repairs/rebuild. Alki area has very limited access and ingress/egress at commute times is heavy.  Highrise and Swing bridges have hopefully 25yrs of life left ;) think about that one…and many including Seattle government are pushing to spend $7billion for ST. Should be planning a single corridor that includes all modes of transportation from walking, biking, transit trucking and vehicles for accessing WS for that $7bil ;) Most examples of people moving into these new builds all have multiple cars and no kids. I agree Seattle needs affordable housing but what is about to happen with the new zoning plans will do little towards that, I truly think in will do opposite and have forever lasting bad results. I’m saying this as one that would benefit from new zoning changes, but truly feel it will be detrimental having irreversible to city.

    • Brandon September 4, 2025 (4:37 pm)

      Don’t worry. The politicians will campaign on “fixes” and blame others for those issues. Voters will buy the narrative that if we give power to the other side of the aisle that things locally will get worse somehow, ignoring of course the last few decades they’ve predicted this would happen amidst these policies and stood against them for that very reason. Then we’ll repeat the process in the name of progress.

  • North Admiral Cyclist September 5, 2025 (5:08 pm)

    I do feel for the concerns about increased density.  Having lived in WS almost 30 years now, I have seen the impacts of growth.  When the citizens of the WA passed the Growth Management Act 35 years ago, we directed growth to the urban areas.  I can tell you that is much better, and more economical than unbridled urban sprawl – as evident in many cities in the southwest U.S.  Tucson, AZ for example, has close to the same population as Seattle within the city limits, but something like four times the land area.  The cost of maintaining streets, utilities, police and fire over such a large area with a smaller tax base are beyond what the city can manage.  I just wish the City of Seattle had requirements for at least some new housing that facilitates “age-in-place” or the mobility-impaired.   We have 1.5M joint replacements in the U.S. every year.  Where can these people go?  99% of new units built have 2 to 4 levels and consist of mostly stairs.  All the older, single-level homes in WS are being torn down.  Many age 60 or older, or with physical impairments, will be driven out of WS.

  • Big Beautiful Bart September 5, 2025 (7:31 pm)

    N O!!! Notice how the proposed zone stops right before the south end of the Stay Healthy Street has all the expensive waterfront view homes?

  • KRL September 8, 2025 (9:03 am)

    After spending additional time researching The One Seattle Plan and Amendment 34, which added Alki  to the proposed plan at the last minute, a few important points really stuck with me. The main point is that the Washington Growth Management Act requires the City Council to form and include a community Participation Plan that offers engagement to community members and residents. The City Council did indeed very carefully spell out a Four Phase plan that is presented in the first three pages of the One Seattle Plan that carefully outlines the community involvement process. However, none of the phases in this four step process were offered to the Alki Community prior to being included in the One Seattle Plan. In Phase 1 “Listen and Learn”, the Alki community would have had a the opportunity to gain insights into the major issues to be addressed and a working relationship between the community and City Council would be formed. In Phase 2 “Shape The Plan”, comment period and community conversations would be offered, environmental analysis would be presented, and alternative growth plans would be discussed. I will pause here because clearly neither of these first two phases were offered to the Alki community. Phase 3 “Refine the Plan” was supposed to include the presentation of a Draft Plan, that would then be analyzed with the community. Alternative growth plans would be discussed with the community before a final draft went to the mayor’s office. Phase 4 “Zoning Update Engagement” included a release of the mayor’s growth strategy that would have then offered a formal comment period for public input. The Alki Community was not given any of these opportunities; the opportunities set forth and clearly spelled out in The One Seattle Plan. This alone, is enough for Alki to removed from the One Seattle Plan September vote. I called all eight of the City Council Members this morning, and left detailed messages that spelled out the points above. I have also sent two rounds of letters to each member and I will provide a one-minute statement on Friday, September 12th. Basically, it is all we can each do to make an impact at this point, given the fact that the Alki Community did not have the required opportunity to comment and provide input. 

  • Alex Wood September 18, 2025 (9:17 am)

    I hope this will prompt King County Metro to finally provide better service for this area! Direct travel to/from Downtown Seattle is only during peak hours at the moment, and I’m hoping that this will increase the demand for transit.

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