Crash aftermath and more discussed @ Alki Community Council

(July 16th reader photo sent by Reiner)

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

One week ago, heroic passersby pulled a woman out of her submerged car off Alki Avenue, after a speeding driver hit it so hard that it was shoved off the road, over an embankment, and into Elliott Bay.

The crash was the major topic of this past week’s monthly Alki Community Council meeting. About 15 people attended in person at Alki UCC, with others participating online, including Southwest Precinct second-in-command Lt. Dorothy Kim.

She didn’t have new information, except to say that police and prosecutors were working together to see if the at-fault driver could be charged even before the state lab’s toxicology report – which could take months – was available. He was arrested on suspicion of DUI, but not taken to jail as he instead had to go to a hospital with serious leg injuries. Lt. Kim didn’t know whether he was still in the hospital. (The victim, 24-year-old Madison Kelly, is, and crowdfunding continues for her and her family.)

The state-lab backlog was a subject of discussion for a few minutes. One attendee expressed puzzlement as she had worked in a hospital and blood-test results – for alcohol/drugs or otherwise – were available fairly quickly. Yes, Lt. Kim acknowledged, while explaining that state-lab processing was imperative for prosecutions, and it had a 9+-month backlog. City Council candidate Phil Tavel, attending online, said he had been working on a recent court case in Yakima with a lab report that took 14 months: “They are so far behind, it’s crazy.” Regarding advocating for prosecution of the at-fault driver, Tavel recommended contacting the Prosecuting Attorney’s Office and asking to speak to a victims’ advocate, and/or attempting to contact the prosecutor who specializes in cases like this one, and showing up at hearings.

Then the talk turned to the Alki dangerous-driving problem in general. One resident asked why there isn’t more of a police presence, issuing traffic tickets. The SPD staffing crisis, Lt. Kim replied. “We are down 400 bodies … and effectively do not have a Traffic Unit any more.” She says they could have at least four officers on an “emphasis patrol” but that’s usually voluntary overtime so they more often get one or two. She said one night-shift officer does proactively work on traffic enforcement and DUI, but that’s just one. She also noted that the Mobile Precinct is currently in the shop, so that’s why you’re not seeing it parked at Alki.

Steve Pumphrey, a leader of the Alki/Harbor Avenues resident group that’s been advocating for action against street disorder, said that speed humps/cushions would be a short-term solution if installed along the entire waterfront stretch, beyond where they’re installed now, and on 63rd SW too.

Lt. Kim said she and precinct commander Capt. Martin Rivera support city action that would authorize speed cameras, a proposal that has made it out of the City Council’s Transportation and Public Utilities Committee and is scheduled for a vote by the full council this Tuesday (July 25th – here’s the agenda).

Pumphrey warned that deployment of speed cameras would be at least a year away, so “don’t get hung up” on them, though he also expressed gratitude to City Councilmember Lisa Herbold for pushing the speed humps and dividers that have been installed so far, as well as helping them with the speed-camera authorization: “We had to prove to the city that state law had changed.”

After more general discussion of traffic calming and why it’s needed, ACC president Tony Fragada agreed that the group could write a letter to the city supporting the speed-camera authorization before Tuesday’s vote.

Also at the meeting:

CRIME STATS: Lt. Kim also offered an update on Alki area crime stats. Homicides and auto thefts are up – in the former category, the area has seen two this year, while last year had none. Auto thefts are up citywide. “Shots fired” calls precinctwide are down from last year (at least as of the meeting last Thursday).

COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS: Two of the department’s CSOs – an unarmed civilian job brought back just before the pandemic – attended. They explained themselves as “resource connectors.” A new initiative they’re working on right now will schedule “community circles” – “sit together, share stories, build relationships” – if you’re interested in possibly being part of this, here’s the signup form. The city has only 20 CSO positions plus four supervisors right now but they’re almost fully staffed.

NEXT MEETING: Third Thursday in September – the ACC will take August off. And it’s still looking for new officers, as most of the current board, including people who have long served, will be leaving.

52 Replies to "Crash aftermath and more discussed @ Alki Community Council"

  • steve July 24, 2023 (1:41 am)

    This might be a dumb question, but if Seattle PD are down 400 bodies, does this mean they have 400 open positions they are hiring for?What does ‘down 400 bodies’ mean exactly? Are there a lot of cops struck with illness, on vacation, or otherwise not working for a reason other than death or quitting?

    edit: 83k entry level pay + 7.5k bonus. So you can afford to live in an apartment in the greater Seattle area. Funny, I don’t think of cops living in apartments

  • wilber July 24, 2023 (6:37 am)

    Reality is that racers/negligent drivers won’t let speed camera’s stop them. they will simply find other areas. Beach Drive; Admiral Way;35th; Delridge etc. etc. Unless and until speed cameras or speed humps are put on EVERY straight stretch of road in WS (and the whole county) you’re playing whack a mole.

    • Kai July 24, 2023 (11:40 am)

      Not only that but they all drive with either stolen plates or no plates at all since they know they can’t be pulled over for them. Speed cameras won’t deter them at all, what we need is old fashion policing.

      • Cyndi July 24, 2023 (5:41 pm)

        We need to use our votes to change city council. This city council does not support old fashioned policing. 

  • Alki resident July 24, 2023 (9:14 am)

    I don’t understand why they can’t charge the at-fault driver for reckless driving, endangerment, speeding, and other crimes related to this crash. There were witnesses. He should be in jail. He’s ruined a life, and Almost killed that poor woman. 

  • Nathan H. July 24, 2023 (9:23 am)

    One resident asked why there isn’t more of a police presence, issuing traffic tickets. The SPD staffing crisis, Lt. Kim replied. “We are down 400 bodies … and effectively do not have a Traffic Unit any more.”

    Credit here goes entirely to our shameful anti-police city council, whose inflammatory rhetoric and short-sighted policies over the last few years have led directly to this sorry state of affairs.

    • Jay July 24, 2023 (10:30 am)

      No, it doesn’t. Credit goes to the Seattle Police Officer’s Guide (SPOG) for building one of the most corrupt police forces in the country. Bad cops are quitting, and it’s impossible to backfill them with good cops while Mike Solan is preserving the toxic and corrupt culture of the department.

      • Melissa July 24, 2023 (11:02 am)

        Preach, Jay. That man is the face of some of the worst of them.

      • Mel July 24, 2023 (11:29 am)

        As a law enforcement family I can assure you that Mike Solan is not the reason qualified candidates don’t want to apply to SPD. It’s the negativity and lack of support. It’s exhausting day in and day out. They can’t even offer people enough money to come work here. 

        • helpermonkey July 24, 2023 (12:40 pm)

          Let’s talk “negativity and lack of support”, considering that some SPD think it’s funny to hang a trump flag in their headquarters, and also make fun of people killed by SPD, I don’t give a rip about how “exhausted” they are. We are all exhausted by not having a police force we can trust and count on! Hire BETTER cops. 

          • wilber July 24, 2023 (2:41 pm)

            helpermonkey./Jay Describe “better cops” I take it you want someone that the lawbreakers love and respect?????? If they love ’em then you’re happy?????

          • Seattlebornandraised July 24, 2023 (2:58 pm)

            Dont people realize that the dumb items the cops had are just mementos of the crazy chop event. Like historic history mementos. Everyone was grabbin chop crap.

        • Jay July 24, 2023 (3:47 pm)

          Accountability is often misinterpreted as negativity or harassment. But accountability is necessary to building community trust. The cop who killed a pedestrian speeding to a no-urgent call with his lights off was protected from accountability by Mike Solan and SPOG. I’ve personally almost been run down by cops multiple times in West Seattle, including by a cop doing 90+ through the California/College intersection with no lights missing me by a couple feet. If they’re above the law and have no accountability, there can never be trust. in 2020, they locked a British journalist up with no charges and he said it’s worse treatment than he’s ever received in a dictatorship. They have locked trans women up in men’s jail without charges for three days just to get them assaulted as punishment for protesting. Investigating and punishing cops who commit crimes isn’t negativity, it’s accountability. These things are morally wrong and the current situation with SPOG is not okay.

      • Ryan July 24, 2023 (12:34 pm)

        Huh? If the force is corrupt, why are bad cops quitting? Wouldn’t bad cops want to stay in a force that allows them to be corrupt? You’re not making any sense, bro. The reality is that this city doesn’t support police, and we are realizing how desparstely we need them. It was an experiment, a test that needed to happen, but it failed. Give it up. 

        • Jay July 24, 2023 (3:49 pm)

          Why does supporting police have to mean giving them a free ticket to do anything they want, break any laws, commit overtime fraud, and even kill people with zero accountability?

    • Jon Wright July 24, 2023 (10:30 am)

      It doesn’t fit your narrative, but here is what the International Association of Chiefs of Police have to say: “Law enforcement agencies across the United States are struggling to recruit and hire police officers. Though agency-specific needs exist depending on size or locale, the difficulty with recruitment is a significant problem that is broadly affecting the field of law enforcement—it is not simply a result of poor agency management or localized failures.” https://www.theiacp.org/sites/default/files/239416_IACP_RecruitmentBR_HR_0.pdf

  • Pdavis July 24, 2023 (9:27 am)

    Thank you for keeping this event in the eye of the public.  It brings many issues to the surface that we are all aware of, but need help with….. extremely dangerous drivers who must be legally intervened on(speed, cameras seem excellent and we should get that on a rush status with a higher penalty for greater speeds, that might even include prosecution beyond just a fine.  Maybe we could set up community funding to get that done right away ?  …meanwhile A  DEEP  THANK YOU FOR THE  HEROS  THAT  GOT  YOUNG  MADISON  OUT  OF  HER  SINKING  VEHICLE  AFTER  SUDDENLY BEING  HIT BY A SPEEDING  IDIOT :  THANK  YOU  TO  GILLIAN  EHRLICH AND  JERRY  ROBBINS (Both in their late 40s) who demonstrated courage and clarity to save her!  Also, thank you to the people that brought a hammer to pound through the window to get her out. Thank you also to who supplied a ladder to help get her out of the water. Thank you to who supplied CPR so she could manage to live.  If anyone knows the names beyond Jillian and Jerry, please write it into the West Seattle blog so they can be acknowledged for being heroes as well.!  we often hear about the idiots and losers in this country….but here we have multiple heroes right here among us. It is encouraging to know that there are still people that will rescue and assist others ( instead of taking a video.)….THANK  YOU  FROM  THE VERY  ❤️ HEART  AND  SOUL ….YOU HAVE  ACTIVELY  DEMONSTRATED THE BEST  IN  HUMAN  NATURE .  MAY  EVERYTHING  WONDERFUL  COME  YOUR  WAY ‼️‼️

    • Michele July 24, 2023 (10:25 am)

      Totally echo your praise of the fast acting neighbors who clearly saved this young woman’s life! While the wheels of government turn creakingly slow … I am ready to contribute NOW to public financed traffic cameras with public facing speed announcements AND license plate capture. I believe that these prudent low cost measures that could have an adverse impact NOW.tax payers will finance either way.

      • Lisa July 24, 2023 (11:19 am)

        @Michele – This doesn’t take into account that many cars don’t have license plates on them. No one is getting stopped for that issue so there’s no incentive to have them on the car. I’ve seen many cars driving recklessly in WS without plates so I can’t even call them in to 911. And, FWIW – calling 911 is worthless except for the most life threatening of circumstances because, as Lt. Kim said, they’re down 400 bodies. No one will come unless a life is threatened.

  • Js July 24, 2023 (10:15 am)

    Cameras won’t do anything more than make it easier to see these accidents filmed from different angles. Put the speed humps in. 

    • Jay July 24, 2023 (10:32 am)

      It’s frustrating knowing the costs of running these cameras is dramatically higher than speed humps, but it’s the main solution being focused on. The street racers can cover their plates and evade tickers from these expensive cameras, but no matter how they modify their cars they won’t be able to do more than 30mph over speed humps without damaging their cars. The discourse around this is missing the mark.

  • tim July 24, 2023 (10:31 am)

    Those heroes, the best of human nature indeed.

  • Rick July 24, 2023 (11:22 am)

    We’re on the south end of 35th on the straightaway before it turns into Marine View Drive and in what is usally a quiet neighborhood turns into quite the raceway. Speed humps would be appreciated.

  • Look Both Ways July 24, 2023 (12:00 pm)

    Speed cameras are not the answer; as proven in multiple other major metros where they were ineffective and ultimately cost decent taxpayers more in setup costs / maintenance, plus nuisance tickets for going just a few mph over that otherwise not cause a citation. The issue here is lack of police presence. It’s clear the department is drastically down in headcount, and that’s a major concern. I commend officers who have stayed on through the recent turmoil. Yet, I’ve personally sought assistance at the W SEA station daily over the past week — it’s always closed (and no one answers the phone # posted…mine is not a 911 issue.) Every Sunday eve after the sun sets you can hear issues along Alki and Marginal. Just placing a couple officers in these areas at these times would mitigate many issues and generate revenue in driver fines. Speed cameras and street bumps don’t matter to DUI drivers or those who cover their license plates, as outlined above. The community should think long term. Inanimate devices are not the answer, and in fact, cost us more.

    • YT July 24, 2023 (12:54 pm)

      Honest question here.  Where are you getting the data showing that speed cameras are ineffective?  From what I’ve seen, study after study shows they have decreased driving speeds, crashes, and injuries/fatalities caused by crashes.  While I agree that some will cover their plates or simply refuse to pay the tickets, the vast majority of drivers will slow down to the legal speed limit or pay a fine.  I know that when I got one after not realizing I was speeding, I paid the fine and now drive slower because of it.  

      • heartless July 24, 2023 (2:36 pm)

        Hah, good luck with that.  I think it’s mostly just that people don’t want to be ticketed themselves for “only” going 5-10mph over the limit, coupled with a generic paranoia about government surveillance.  For whatever reason they instead just claim speed cameras don’t work–which really does seem to ignore most data out there.  (but you all feel free to chime in and show data otherwise… but I won’t be holding my breath, hah).  

        • WestSeattleBadTakes July 24, 2023 (4:19 pm)

          Requests data, provides none. The CDC lists this particular study with regard to speed cameras. This is on the only data that is typically referenced.

          It notes that speed cameras move things in a positive direction but they cannot say by how much. Furthermore, it does nothing to compare the effectiveness of other solutions.

          It is in fact good for us to consider alternatives to surveillance. Especially since we know that other things are far more impactful and long-lasting such as road design, alternatives to driving, etc. Isn’t it interesting that the only interventions listed by the CDC are surveillance-based and/or restrict personal freedoms? You don’t think that is a problem?

          And to be clear, this isn’t conspiracy, this is American culture. We structure our entire culture on personal freedom and so the only answers we have are to strip personal freedom while doing nothing to address the underlying causes and/or considering alternatives to how we structure society.

          So, I would challenge you to consider your views on speed cameras. Maybe you do have a nuanced opinion, but it is clearly drowned out by your dogma.

          Don’t sell yourself and everyone around you short because of your need to resolve an issue with half-measures.
          https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD004607.pub4/full

          Despite the methodological limitations and the variability in degree of signal to noise effect, the consistency of reported reductions in speed and crash outcomes across all studies show that speed cameras are a worthwhile intervention for reducing the number of road traffic injuries and deaths. However, whilst the the evidence base clearly demonstrates a positive direction in the effect, an overall magnitude of this effect is currently not deducible due to heterogeneity and lack of methodological rigour. More studies of a scientifically rigorous and homogenous nature are necessary, to provide the answer to the magnitude of effect.

          • heartless July 24, 2023 (8:14 pm)

            Sorry, I sorta figured at this point anyone interested enough could google studies themselves–but, sure, here you go:

            https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/news/speed-limit-enforcement-cameras-save-money-lives-new-york-city

            That’s an article that discusses (and links to) a NYC study on traffic cameras–their takeaway? “Speed cameras rank among the most cost-effective social policies, saving both money and lives…”

            https://www.iapsonline.com/sites/default/files/Cost%20benefit%20analysis%20of%20traffic%20light%20and%20speed%20cameras.pdf

            That’s an old British study that specifically addresses the issue of whether or not cameras cost money (that is, their ROI).  I bring it up because the user Look Both Ways specifically mentioned that cameras cost more money than they bring in–which is just a really weird argument, but, whatever.  

            https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/03611981221104808

            Another article that suggests cameras reduce injury crashes and fatalities.  This one might be behind a paywall, but at the very least the reference section should provide further reading for those interested.

            https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0221267

            Another study that suggest speed cameras reduce collisions.  They use fun statistical analyses in this one, but otherwise it’s pretty much like the rest: put up cameras, have fewer crashes.

            I hope this is enough data to settle your first issue?  Beyond that, you seem to think I consider cameras the be-all and end-all?  I don’t at all.  In fact, I would prefer physical changes to the roads (ie, better designs) coupled with copious in-person ticket enforcement.  But, you know, people here keeping saying cameras don’t work (or even could never work!) and me (and presumably others) find that argument kinda weird, and that’s really what I was trying to address: the misinformation that cameras don’t work.   

          • YT July 25, 2023 (10:16 am)

            I’m not sure why I have to provide data to inquire about where they found their data. I shouldn’t have to attempt to disprove somebody’s point in order to better understand their stance on a subject. I’m not pushing for speed cameras. Whatever somebody’s opinion on the matter is, it should at least be based on real information. I genuinely can’t find any credible studies that prove cameras don’t work. Even the study you linked to says all the data showed improvements to traffic safety, but to greatly varying degrees.I can understand the stance that speed cameras can make roads safer, but that increase doesn’t outweigh the cons that come with increased surveillance. But to base your anti-camera opinion on the idea that speed cameras are proven ineffective, when that’s not actually the case, seems like willful ignorance to me.

      • Peter S. July 24, 2023 (3:04 pm)

        I think I can help with this.  Yes, it will help to slow the folks who generally follow the law and got  caught because they were in a hurry or didn’t realize how fast they were going.  That ticket is a painful reminder and they will pay it.

          However,  I’m skeptical it will do anything to deter the scofflaw racers.  As WSB noted, the cars in this tragic accident appear to have been properly plated.  No mention however, if properly registered (current tabs) or insured.  That doesn’t mean many other racers don’t camouflage their plates or fail to display them at all for one reason or another. 

  • Marley July 24, 2023 (1:01 pm)

    Can’t wait to see tickets going out to increase general fund revenue with no commensurate increase in services. What is that ticket revenue going to pay for? Nothing, that’s what. The taxes go up and the services go down and I see a lot of comments from know-nothings in support. Sad!

    • WSB July 24, 2023 (2:35 pm)

      Half of the revenue, by state law, above the costs of operating the cameras, has to go to the state for the Cooper Jones active transportation safety fund, explained on the state website as “Expenditures from the account may be used only to fund grant projects or programs for bicycle, pedestrian, and nonmotorist safety improvement administered by the Washington traffic safety commission.”

      • Linn July 24, 2023 (9:10 pm)

        *half of the reported revenue

  • StuckInWestSeattle July 24, 2023 (1:15 pm)

    Has anyone identified the driver that caused the accident? Should be in publicly available arrest papers but I have not been able to find anything and I really want to know who this jerk is.

    • WSB July 24, 2023 (1:56 pm)

      No, there aren’t “publicly available arrest papers” if someone isn’t in the King County Prosecuting Attorney system yet (e.g. if they’re booked into jail pre-charging, which he hadn’t been as of late last week). SPD will release names when someone is booked into jail, but again, that wasn’t the case as of my last check. Similar scenario to the West Seattle Bridge double-fatal crash. – TR

  • Alki Jack July 24, 2023 (2:25 pm)

    I can say with certainty that the speed bumps are working. While not perfect, cars and trucks do slow down when they go over them. Motorcycles just go between them, that needs to be addressed. But they do a lot of good, 24/7 and require no monitoring. More are desperately needed now. For some reason on Alki Ave. SW, from Anchor Park to 57th Ave SW, a huge long stretch, there are  none. And Harbor Ave has some big gaps where they are needed. As we have said several times before, us and many of our friends and neighbors are willing to contribute to a fund to completely pay for them so there would be no cost to the city. 

    • K July 24, 2023 (3:48 pm)

      As much as I support speed controls on Alki, speed humps should not be installed on public roads based on neighbors ability to pay. 

    • Alki resident July 24, 2023 (5:01 pm)

      Alki Jack have you ever been on a motorcycle going over a speed bump? It absolutely makes no sense to go over a speed bump on a motorcycle. 

    • my two cents July 24, 2023 (5:56 pm)

      alkijack – I can see it now, next year it will complaining about the traffic lines and the exhaust fumes wafting up because of the stop and go nature of the traffic with multiple speed bumps, in addition to the loud music, engines being gunned and such. Every action has a reaction.

  • Peter S. July 24, 2023 (2:34 pm)

    I found the following comment in the original story to be telling:

    >>  I was specifically told by more than one police officer that they will not address speeding on Alki, as they dont (sic) want to further alienate the people who visit the beach.  (ANOTHER LONG TERM ALKIRESIDENT JULY 17, 2023 (8:27 AM))<<

    Translation:   We don't want to deal with the inevitable accusations of discrimination or profiling, so we're not going to enforce the law.

      If true, then it would be very interesting to know where that  directive came from.  SPOG??  SPD chief or command staff??  City Council and/or Mayor??   It further provides evidence to support the belief among those inclined that they can do whatever they want whenever they want because they won't be punished or held accountable.   

    • Jay July 24, 2023 (3:55 pm)

      I think, based on what I’ve heard about speeding enforcement and statements from cops, that police are doing a protest by not enforcing a number of very high visibility crimes to give the appearance that the department has been defunded and has lower staff then it really does. One of these areas is hooning, so they ignore racing, donut competitions, etc. The defunding never happened, but you see all of the comments on articles like this are how hooning is out of control because we aren’t supporting and have defunded the police.

  • Admiral-2009 July 24, 2023 (5:40 pm)

    There are a number of marked Cross Walks that could be made into raised crossings that would improve pedestrian visibility and provide traffic calming.

  • Just Enforcement July 24, 2023 (9:07 pm)

    Ah, how about just enforcement? I know, I know, staffing. 
    These should be basic priorities.

    There wouldn’t be a need for things like speed bumps if there was enforcement of speed limits and basic driving laws.

    No need to place barriers, planters, concrete blocks along streets and take away lawful parking.
    Vehicles (RVs, cars, trailers) parking on city streets over 72 hours…ticket them or remove them if necessary.

    Speeding? Stop them….Ticket them.
    No license plate or covered. Stop them….Ticket them.
    Reckless driving? Stop them…Impound the car.
    Racing? Stop them…..Impound the car or jail.

    No need to remove parking along popular streets or scenic drives so I can’t park and go for a walk and peacefully enjoy the city.
    Noisy, loud music blaring, revving engines….ticket them, jail or impound.

    No need to close parks/beaches unreasonably early so they can’t be enjoyed on beautiful summer days.
    Noise, loud music, unruly groups….disperse them, ticket or jail.

    If a section of road is notorious for speeding….Radar speed traps.
    Don’t make the speed limit so unreasonably slow on some roads for law abiding drivers that it is ignored altogether.

    These restrictions affect everyone instead of just those who should be paying the price. Instead, not enforcing the basic rules just creates the mind set that bigger and bigger violations have no consequences.

    Hey city council, how about doing what’s needed to facilitate enforcement so Seattleites can get back to enjoying their city?

  • Alki Derek July 24, 2023 (9:15 pm)

    All the people that are for speed controls need to admit that distracted driving is much more of a factor.  The solutions you’re offering do not stop people from operating their phone while driving.A car driving a little over the limit with an attentive driver is much less dangerous then I distracted driver at the speed limit.  This doesn’t condone speeding, it just points at the more apparent issue.Even with the speed controls it will only affect the law-abiding citizens.  You’re all solving for a downstream effect, not attacking the source.

  • Northadmrl July 24, 2023 (10:02 pm)

    If we gather the money as a community for the drug test processing on the loser who drove – speeding – head on crashing to cause an innocent young girl to almost die….can it  get done right away?

  • 2cents July 25, 2023 (3:17 pm)

    Has anyone ever considered how WIDE this roadway is – no wonder it’s so comfortable to race on. it would be best to shut down traffic on Sundays in summertime (like we used to), or long-term reduce the width and commit more space to bikes, pedestrians here.

    • heartless July 26, 2023 (1:03 pm)

      Yes indeed, I think better road design would be a great solution.  Absolutely agree,

  • Mom July 27, 2023 (7:46 am)

    I have not been on this blog since my daughter’s accident and it has been a roller coaster ride I wish upon no one.  One minute my child is stable and making incremental improvements, and in a blink of an eye, she’s rushed back to ICU for complications.  No person whether it is a parent, sibling, or significant other should ever see, feel or be a part of such a horrific thing.  I am overly grateful to everyone for their selfless act to save my daughter.  I have been able to connect with a few individuals and I am praying for each of you.  I pray that you are doing well, I pray that you have a support system to guide you thru this, and I pray that you know that you are awesome.I have been asked how I am doing and I can answer that when I know my daughter is back to being a free spirited young woman who loves to live life to the fullest.  I continue to ask for prayers for her as well as those that were involved in saving her.  Thank you!

    • WSB July 27, 2023 (8:55 am)

      Thank you so much for the update.

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