ENCAMPMENTS: What the city is saying about the North Delridge cluster

(Photo from email sent to city)

In the past two and a half months, the city has cleared longrunning West Seattle RV encampment sites, including 26th/28th/Andover, West Marginal Place, and the northbound side of Harbor Avenue, as well as the tent encampment at Rotary Viewpoint Park/West Seattle Stadium. But the cluster of encampments in North Delridge’s 26th/28th/29th/Juneau/Brandon area remain, even after high-profile area crimes including a murder (though we still don’t know if last week’s sexual assault was related, as police have not released anything more about the suspect whose arrest they announced Friday). We’ve been cc’d on numerous email chains initiated by area residents, some of which initially drew city replies, but more recently have not. Concerns the residents voiced include not just the aforementioned crimes but also fires and ongoing problems from illegally parked vehicles and items obstructing streets to stolen cars being stripped, plus a recent discovery of registered sex offenders in the area.

We asked the city’s homelessness-response spokesperson Linda Robson about the area at the end of last week. She told us, “An inspection team was sent to the 26th/Juneau/28th/Brandon area (Friday, August 19th) to get an up-to-date assessment. The Unified Care Team database currently lists a handful of reported encampment sites in the general area that have been somewhat fluid, so getting a current and accurate assessment of the larger area will be the first step for the team when it comes to doing any kind of remediation or site removal work.”

We also emailed West Seattle/South Park City Councilmember Lisa Herbold, with whom people upset about the encampments are now trying to arrange a meeting. We asked if the situation was even on her radar, as we haven’t seen it mentioned in her weekly newsletters. She replied that it’s “very much on my radar.” She also had been told about the Unified Care Team’s assessment. She added: “I share the concern about safety, especially given the fire, shooting death, and rape in recent weeks. In late July I spoke with the SW Precinct Captain about this location, before the fire.” She noted that, as we reported three weeks ago, there had been some city response at 26th/Juneau. And she said, “The Precinct Captain also told me how people living unsheltered in the area had helped in the shooting investigation, leading to the identification of the murder suspect for arrest.” As for the sites’ status, Herbold wrote, “Once specific locations come to the attention of the City: the City’s Unified Care Team assesses them and prioritizes them for a response, which could range from providing outreach and cleaning services, to scheduling a removal. I have advocated for clarity about criteria so the public can have the opportunity to understand how sites across the city are prioritized for action.” Asked how she’s responding to constituents’ concerns, she attached an example exchange from early August with a North Delridge resident (not one of the chains we’ve been cc’d on) voicing similar concerns. Her response included information on how to report encampment-related concerns plus this caveat “Because encampments reported to the City may not be prioritized for a City response, my office also conveys concerns from constituents about specific locations to local outreach workers who are funded to work in District 1, who visit residents to offer resources, referrals and information. There is no guarantee that 1) the individual will be at the encampment when the outreach worker initially visits, 2) appropriate indoor shelter is immediately available, or 3) referrals will be accepted in the short term.”

So it appears the next step on the North Delridge encampment cluster is whatever decision the Unified Care Team makes. We’ll be following up. (We also have an inquiry out about the RV encampment along 16th SW by South Seattle College, which has grown.)

58 Replies to "ENCAMPMENTS: What the city is saying about the North Delridge cluster"

  • Ryan August 22, 2022 (10:46 pm)

    If you want to help the neighborhood and get the city to enforce the laws on these illegally parked RVs and the issues that come with them please send an email or call. Sonia PalmaInterim Parking Enforcement Operations Manager 3City of Seattle, Department of TransportationO: 206-684-5015 | M: 206-639-9428 | sonia.palma@seattle.govor Gerard Green – Gerard.Green@seattle.gov – head of the City’s Unified Care Team  I know that all of us living in this area would greatly appreciate any assistance we can get. Feel free to CC the west seattle blog on your communicationsAnd yes we did just find out we have 2, level 3 child sex offenders living in the encampment that are registered with the state

  • Chewieduke August 23, 2022 (1:17 am)

    Corner of 9th and Henderson is getting worse and worse. 

  • James August 23, 2022 (6:05 am)

    It’s easier for Seattle to kick a problem down the road than work to solve it. Rent control and harm reduction could go a long way in reducing the number of people forced to live on the streets or unable to stop substance abuse.

    • Del August 23, 2022 (12:34 pm)

      Rent control increases rent for everyone. Just look at London, NYC, SF, etc. 

    • Alki Amazing ohhh August 23, 2022 (1:30 pm)

      True James, Seattle never fixes any problems not even the rent being high.

  • my two cents August 23, 2022 (7:13 am)

    Got dizzy from the spin that Herbold was spinning again.

  • MondVogel August 23, 2022 (7:19 am)

    Our elected representative claiming “compassion” for people are literally having zero compassion for the vast majority of tax paying residents of this city, their kids and safety.Homeless refusing shelter need to take accountability like anyone else, including any drug related offenses and removed to prevent further damage. Response times of months are not acceptable 

  • No really, WHAT? August 23, 2022 (7:34 am)

    So the people in the encampment helped provide information to help solve the murder.  That’s apparently a benefit of having a nearby encampment?  Isn’t the fact that the murder wouldn’t have happened at all if the encampment wasn’t there a factor at all?
    So these are our standards now?  People in encampments might  help us solve the crimes that happen around encampments?  Is that really what our police department is using as community policing now?

    Surely we can do better.

    • anonyme August 23, 2022 (9:29 am)

      LOL, you nailed it!

    • Words matter August 23, 2022 (9:42 am)

      Is it not a factor at all that the victim was an encampment member?

    • Neighbor August 23, 2022 (8:29 pm)

      Preach.

  • FrustratedFather August 23, 2022 (7:41 am)

    There have been two shootings at the 26th/Brandon encampment in August. Both were covered on this blog. I followed up with SPD to get police report numbers for both. They are 2022-205429 and 2022-205477 (links go to WSB coverage). Please mention these incidents and their report numbers when you contact Lisa Herbold at lisa.herbold@seattle.gov. 

  • Brian August 23, 2022 (7:54 am)

    It’s weird how just kicking them out and not actually doing anything to provide housing isn’t solving the problem. You’d think that would be just the ticket to get us out of this pickle and yet…

    • OneTimeCharley August 23, 2022 (9:56 am)

      We’ve just gotten started. This was the way it was before Durkan and Covid. I welcome the return to sanity. Eventually the scofflaws will decide shuffling their piles of filth around isn’t worth it and either accept help or move on down the highway.

  • antifascist August 23, 2022 (8:56 am)

    It’s insulting to suggest that this “isn’t even on [Lisa Herbold’s] radar.” Of course she’s aware of it! Everyone in the city is aware of it, but that doesn’t mean we all agree with the current “solution” of sweeping, seizing and destabilizing people’s lives even further. It’s become a huge city-wide game of whack-a-mole.  Keep crying (and paying) for bigger mallets, and maybe eventually you’ll eradicate the people you can’t stand, but you’ll lose your soul in the process. And your own liberty and rights in the end, too, because fascism doesn’t stop with just the poor and unsightly.

    • Derek August 23, 2022 (10:42 am)

      Agree with you so much. It’s absurd how much people push fascism around here. Locking people up for being poor? Get out of here with that noise! When the punishment for something is merely a fine (parking) then it’s something that is only a punishment to the lower class. That simple.

    • wscommuter August 23, 2022 (12:09 pm)

      Just so we’re clear – are you saying that closing encampments = fascism?  Please do explain your point.  

    • WS Guy August 23, 2022 (2:43 pm)

      I’m thinking laws and enforcement from 1990’s-era Seattle, not 1940’s era Germany, is a reasonable target.

    • Frustrated August 23, 2022 (4:43 pm)

      I guess requiring people to pick up their trash (needles) on public property is fascism. Who knew?

      • Neighbor August 23, 2022 (8:31 pm)

        And not wanting people raped and murdered, and property stolen and fenced=fascism. Fascinating. 

        • Words matter August 24, 2022 (7:48 am)

          ^

          equating the ‘poor and unsightly’ with rapists, murderers, thieves.

  • skeeter August 23, 2022 (9:04 am)

    I’ve reported this location (Brandon/27th) on find it fix it within the past three weeks.  The encampment has been growing and spreading.  There are even two broken down boats.  I no longer feel safe using the Longfellow Creek pathway – it’s just so sketchy in that area.  My patience and compassion have worn out.  

  • Long Ng August 23, 2022 (9:10 am)

    I have tried to call the Herbold Lisa and nothing happen. I voted  not next time. I live by the camp. no laws. 

  • Mj August 23, 2022 (9:22 am)

    If only the City would consistently enforce the SMC and Parking regulations the issue of illegally parked RV’s and vehicles could be resolved.

    • WS Res August 23, 2022 (10:53 am)

      You just keep thinking that. I’m sure it’s comforting.

  • Annoyed neighbor August 23, 2022 (9:33 am)

    A murder, a sexual assault, two registered sex offenders not following protocols, illegal dumping into a salmon stream, illegal construction shanties being built deep in the green belt, and what ever crime the inhabitants are involved in all next to a school and walking path. The only thing that hasn’t happened yet a massive fire in the green belt that would be difficult to extinguish. What more needs to happen for the city to address this issue that has been growing for two years now.

    • Jeff August 24, 2022 (9:16 am)

      Careful painting with that broad brush. Murderers and people who sexually assault are also non-homeless. Stop generalizing all the poor. 

  • DRW August 23, 2022 (9:34 am)

    Now if we could just get the big Pharma companies to kick in some money to help with the problems that they’ve helped to create. Maybe a few hundred million out of their mega profits.

    • miws August 23, 2022 (10:51 am)

      Spot on, DRW. Them, and the Sackler family, individually, beyond the what is likely pocket-change to them, from the lawsuit against their former company. —Mike

      • DRW August 23, 2022 (12:03 pm)

        Pocket change for sure.

    • The King August 23, 2022 (12:30 pm)

      Big pharma has names, like the Sackler family. They pushed the opioids into our medical system, paid out a few crumbs in lawsuits and now they’re going to get even richer on a pill to get you off the opioids. Kind of like our govt, create the problem at your expense and then tax you to death to fix it. 

  • Jeepney August 23, 2022 (10:39 am)

    We can’t solve this problem until we acknowledge the root of the problem, which is substance abuse.  Until the drug dealers (high level and low level) are held accountable, we will continue to have these illegal encampments.  Eliminate or reduce the amount of fentanyl, heroin, and meth and we might make progress.

  • Lisa August 23, 2022 (11:45 am)

     I am acquainted with the 2 families living at 26th and Juneau, and I am absolutely certain that they had nothing to do with that horrific rape. At least one family has indicated that they would gladly move to a sanctioned safe parking spot if there were such a thing.  The existing church-sanctioned place up north only provides night time parking, requiring folks to remove their vehicles daily…which doesn’t work if you have no cash for gas, nowhere to go, and/or your rig requires a tow. 

    • Ryan August 23, 2022 (4:08 pm)

      https://www.icrimewatch.net/offenderdetails.php?OfndrID=887324&AgencyID=54473 This link will take you to the states website that describes Jacob butts rape of a 15 year old girl held against her will with a knife to her throat and being told that if she didn’t do a good job having sex with him she would be thrown in a ditch. This is the nice family you describe living at 26th and Juneau…  perhaps you should invite him over hopefully you don’t have a daughter 

      • Lisa August 24, 2022 (8:45 am)

        I didn’t use the word nice. I just said they aren’t involved in the recent rape. 

    • Neighbor August 23, 2022 (8:34 pm)

      Are you KIDDING?! what on earth are you talking about? What nice family? The rapist? The thieves who steal stuff to sell? Who is the nice family?! There’s no family! There’s literally no family. 

  • TM7302 August 23, 2022 (11:49 am)

    @ James – Rent control does absolutely for the people currently on the streets.  It’s an impossible situation having “low income” housing because what we really mean to say is low rent or subsidized housing since land in Seattle is some of the most expensive in the Nation. Add that as a line item on your property tax bill and see the real cost to the taxpayer. The City isn’t close to solving this problem because they don’t have a handle on what the problem is.  For example, who are these homeless?  Are they from Seattle or the local area or someone from out of town looking for a better deal?  What does the city do when they don’t want city services; does the City let them camp indefinitely? And what do you do when the homeless refuse help. Yes, there are lots of issues surrounding the homeless and hitting it with a thousand hammers probably isn’t the right way to fix it.  

  • SIB August 23, 2022 (12:56 pm)

    Wondering if Lisa Herbold is going to follow up about the Juneau stairwell between 21st and 23rd by STEM school. There is currently someone who has been living in the bushes right off the stairs  for weeks and weeks. It smells of his waste as you walk up the stairs. I no longer can use the stairs to walk alone because I don’t feel comfortable or safe walking past the area. I’ve reported it, called the Precinct, and written Herbold. Nothing yet other than generic responses directing me to one or the other, rinse, repeat. 

    • WSB August 23, 2022 (2:05 pm)

      That actually was mentioned in the reply to us but I hadn’t asked about it nor heard about it and wasn’t sure what relevance it bore to this story so … anyway, here is her mention:

      “In addition, my office has asked SDOT about the schedule for stairwell maintenance for the stairwell between 23rd Ave SW and 21st Ave SW at SW Juneau Street.”

      I’ll ask SDOT about it directly. – TR

      • skeeter August 23, 2022 (2:44 pm)

        Thank you for following up on the staircase.  Louisa Boren STEM students living in High Point use that staircase to get to/from school.  Also used by High Point residents who take the #120 bus.

  • Sillygoose August 23, 2022 (2:57 pm)

    The find it fix it app as well as reporting the plate and vin numbers to Auto Task Force of Puget Sound.  They will let you know within minutes if the plate comes back stolen if so they come and pick up the vehicle.  Also a completely anonymous way to report crime send photos etc is the P3 tips app.  Monitored 24/7 and they have 48 hours to respond. 

  • Words matter August 23, 2022 (3:17 pm)

    Is there some information that would suggest the rapist was associated with an encampment or homeless? They certainly could be, but just wondering if there is specific reason for the suspicion.

    Its always concerning to know there are sexual predators in communities, but let’s please keep in mind everyone that this is not a homeless related problem, that there are plenty of these folks out there committing crimes who have homes, shower, and put on nice clothes everyday.

    If you have strong concerns about these homeless individuals who are also sexual offenders, please hold equal concern for the neighbors in houses who are also sexual offenders, though perhaps less visible and less easy to target and push out of your community.

    Homeless folks, in addition to being generalized as lazy, crazy, non productive, thieves, (etc) don’t need to be judged as likely sexual offenders, too.

    Let’s absolutely be concerned about crime and sexual offenders, but can we be careful not create more hate toward the homeless population, please.

    • WSB August 23, 2022 (3:56 pm)

      I made a specific mention of the fact that we don’t know, because crime near/in encampments has been cited by the city as factors in sweep decisions. The attack happened in an area where there are encampments but that may or may not be a coincidence … we just don’t know and may not know until/unless charges are filed in the case.

      • Fred August 25, 2022 (4:05 pm)

        You know now. Are you going to edit the blog post?

    • Stephen August 29, 2022 (12:24 pm)

      There are two sex offenders in your neighborhood, look it up non-registered level 

  • Megan August 23, 2022 (4:22 pm)

    We live right near and walk/run those streets probably 5 days a week, I honestly felt safer when the encampment was there, it’s probably naive but I just had a feeling that they’d all be looking out for the regular people they saw day to day. And that poor woman was raped right where they just cleared one of the big encampments. I’m not sure what the solution is but it doesn’t feel like it’s only clearing out the encampments.

    • Lindsey August 23, 2022 (9:02 pm)

      Hey Megan. Prior to this encampment being cleared, my neighbor was targeted by an individual here. While my neighbor was walking by, he was called a pedophile and homophobic slurs. Then, the camper tried to hit him with his car. So no, they aren’t looking out for their neighbors. Quite the opposite. You may run by this several times a week but those of us who live in direct proximity know these folk don’t give a damn about us. They are bad neighbors, no matter what situation they live in. We have been telling the police for years that some one will die at this corner, and the air of lawlessness has indeed led to a murder and a violent rape. What else needs to happen? A kid walking to school hit by a car? A jogger hit by a car? The RV people here regularly blow through the stop signs and it terrifies me. Our neighbors have been sounding the alarm BEFORE someone was murdered and someone was raped.  What more needs to happen?

    • Actually live here August 23, 2022 (10:15 pm)

      How is it safer?! You think the level 3 sex offender living there is looking out for your best interest?! There have been shootings, a murder, people breaking into our property, the list goes on.  Or maybe it’s the the RV that’s blocking the trail with junk and making it dangerous to cross the street because you can’t see around it? I’ve been walking running these trails for years and it used to feel safe, hasn’t felt safe in a long time. Wish my kids could feel as safe as you do Megan. 

  • wetone August 23, 2022 (4:53 pm)

    What is the  Unified Care Team  ?  Could someone please explain .  Is this a Parking Enforcement team ?  new SDOT team ?  new name for Clean Streets group ?  See a lot of areas being cleaned up around SODA area and stadiums only to repopulated shortly after. Will be curious to see what happens once cruise ships end there season………..

    • WSB August 23, 2022 (5:53 pm)

      Multidepartment task force, explained in mayor’s homelessness plan: “For the first time in Seattle’s history, the Unified Care Team brings together every City department working on homelessness to define a One Seattle agenda for aligned action. With collaborative partnership, shared data, and common objectives, this model is already driving new solutions as we execute on these key priorities:” (continues in plan doc https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/af548fd66fc94e98a5067b299b7d1209/ )

  • Cogburn August 23, 2022 (6:50 pm)

    While it is a problem for them to have somewhere to park, the location pictured here should be prohibited. They are on Longfellow Creek. You know, the salmon creek the community has tried to restore for salmon. The creek that the school kids come every year to release salmon fry. The occupants of this camp have drums of petroleum products set out, they work on auto transmissions and other automotive repairs, parts, tools and petroleum products on the ground, al on the banks of the famed salmon creek. Who else thinks they should not be polluting Longfellow Creek? 

    • WSB August 23, 2022 (8:23 pm)

      Just one correction, Fauntleroy is the creek with student salmon releases. Though what you describe certainly doesn’t improve matters, Longfellow has long been fairly inhospitable to salmon, likely because of urban runoff in general
      https://pugetsoundkeeper.org/2017/02/21/whats-happening-coho-salmon-longfellow-creek/

      • Auntie August 23, 2022 (8:59 pm)

        Be that as it may, it is still unacceptable to have people “camping” adjacent to Longfellow Creek where their waste products are surely polluting the creek. Tens of thousands of dollars have been spent on restoration, with more to come, only to see this shameful pollution continue.

    • WS Res August 24, 2022 (1:59 pm)

      If you truly care about this creek so much, perhaps you could organize the crowdfunding effort to provide some regularly-serviced port-a-potties then.

      • Ryan August 24, 2022 (5:08 pm)

        Why would you get Porta potty‘s when it’s illegal for them to even be there… besides it’s not just human waste but fuel, chemicals, debris from the things these people are breaking apart and working on.Don’t you think the time and resources would be better spent trying to get the city off their butts and enforce the rules they neglected to enforce for two years!I think that that is a better use of peoples time

      • wetone August 24, 2022 (6:41 pm)

        WS  RES     Really  ? How about city starts enforcing laws on people dumping garbage and human waste in city. What happened to accountability and responsibility ?  Just because one doesn’t have a normal residence or is homeless does not give one a right to pollute, move on private or public property. The amount of money this  city is spending on this issue is absurd and not sustainable. City is doing LITTLE  for mental illness and drug addiction. Start there and STOP the invitation and enabling……..  before more get taxed out of their homes they worked so hard to get…….

  • Ursula August 27, 2022 (1:58 pm)

    This site at Longfellow Creek, though lovely and shady, so the draw is understandable, but should not be tolerated!  It has been “camped” at most of the summer , except for a brief period after a sweep. That said, the photo doesn’t even show the two or more speedboats on trailers, that reside there, but that come and go for use, I suppose. ( Wish I could afford a speedboat). Have seen 55 gallon drums of ? transmissions on the ground, being cleaned, generators and old gas cans. Always. These encampments should be kept at least a few hundred feet from the creek.&; Absolutely no EPA concerns? I used to walk on the path there through the woods; Now fear for my personal safety or stepping into excrement, petroleum distillates, radiator fluids or other unknowns. There is way too much trash and junk piling up by the day. People need spaces to stay, but the city should not allow camps a few feet from fragile public waterways; So shameful!

  • Stephen September 2, 2022 (10:44 am)

    It’s terrible what’s happening to our neighborhoods, they cleaned out Andover Street, and the street people came up and are living on 16th Ave., Southwest next to South Seattle College, they have been sitting on the street for over 60 days, I have witness drug deals stolen cars, cars coming all hours of the night, you cannot walk down the sidewalks on 16th, as they are also living on the sidewalk and blocking the sidewalk, it’s a sad that the city is letting this problem go on, right next to a college, and next to the Seattle arboretum and the Seattle Chinese Gardens, this is not a welcoming site, for the returning students starting September 23, this will be the first time in two years of the college is open for student registration, so hundreds of college students will be attending, and we’ll have to park their cars on 16th along with the homeless RV’s and will have to walk on the sidewalk that is full of garbage and debris along these homeless people.

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