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October 15, 2016 at 5:58 am #861069
JoBParticipantIt’s easy in all of the turmoil of the Presidential election to forget that there are local races that will impact our lives as much or more than that of the Presidency.
like that of our State Supreme Court…
https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_Supreme_Court_elections,_2016
October 15, 2016 at 10:10 am #861077
birdrescuerParticipantAlso, Sec. of WA State. Tina Podlidowski is an important candidate to support. Check her out at http://www.votersfortina.com/
October 15, 2016 at 12:58 pm #861092
captainDaveParticipantI have pretty much given up on our corrupt local politics because there seems to be very little interest in constitutional government here in Washington. The people of Seattle want bigger more authoritarian government, higher taxes and more social programs–while, at the same time, wanting the government to crack down on evil capitalistic entreprenures so as to create an economic environment where only the biggest corporate monopolies can survive.
Tina Podlidowski, for example, is an extreme leftist who will insure that the state’s voting system drowns out the remaining heretics of the big government agenda she supports. Isn’t it like putting a fox in the hen house to have a socoial activist in charge of voting? Will she further encumber small business with more licensing bureaucracy and wait times? Of course, but who really cares since few understand the mechanics of our free society anymore?
I will certainly vote in races where there is a glimmer of hope for common sense, but I think this socialist insanity infecting local politics needs to run its course to economic and civil destruction before people are willing to think again.
For now, I am mostly just interested in seeing where our nation is going because that will set the tone for local politics across the country. If Corrupt Hillary is elected with here corporatist-marxist agenda, it will signal the eventual end of individual freedom for common people. Of course, that is just my opinion. I am sure their are many here who would salivate over all the free stuff that an unbridled “Clintonesque” federal government can provide (for a short while, anyway).
October 15, 2016 at 9:34 pm #861140
JoBParticipantCaptain Dave..
Thanks for letting us know that Tina Podlidowski is an extreme leftist ;-)
but i am curious.. the only way for the state’s voting system to drown anything is to encourage voting.. and that is bad.. because ?????
October 15, 2016 at 11:50 pm #861149
captainDaveParticipantJoB: Do you honestly think Tina Podlidowski will apply her “get out the vote” strategy evenly across all districts and demographics? Just having an ardent leftist in charge of counting votes is enough of a discouragement to those who oppose her politics. I receive her emails and see that she has little intention of representing all of the people of Washington State in a non-partisan manner.
I found this fun quote that seems to sum it up nicely: “It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.” ~Joseph Stalin
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October 16, 2016 at 9:04 am #861158
JoBParticipantcaptain dave..
i don’t see why not since i apply my get out the vote drive across all demographics.. including the one you belong to..
quoting stalin on vote counting to make your point? that’s a disingenuous choice..
You state that she will somehow promote voter registration only among the voters who will agree with her and then seal the deal with the insinuation that she will miscount the vote…
you really can’t have it both ways…
October 16, 2016 at 11:31 am #861178
JanSParticipantthere was a time when we heard often…America, love it or leave it.. Then came “if you don’t like it , leave”. And I was offended by both. Capt. Dave…serious question here…if it is so awful living here, under our government, both local and national, why do you stay? And why do you criticize EVERYTHING, even voting, like it’s all working against you. I realize that you feel that you have been harmed by said government, but, seriously..is there no other place in the world that would be more amenable to you not feeling so downtrodden? I simply don’t understand, I guess. You are relatively young, healthy, have a business you’d like to pursue(I am ASSuming you still are, since you still eat and pay bills). A la the last question in the second debate…what is it that you like here that makes you stay, despite how you think/feel you’ve been treated?
October 16, 2016 at 11:33 am #861179
JanSParticipanthttp://www.snopes.com/stalin-vote-count-quote/
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/dubiousquotes/a/stalin_quote.htm
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October 17, 2016 at 4:59 pm #861341
captainDaveParticipantJanS: Where I live and why I live here is my private business as is for you as well. Telling people that they should leave because they don’t agree with your politics is about as un-American as it gets. Perhaps things will continue to shift left of where you are and you too will be told to leave? Is that how you think our civil society should operate? Where on earth can you find a free democracy that has lasted under such “mob-rule”?
JoB: You said: “but i am curious.. the only way for the state’s voting system to drown anything is to encourage voting.. and that is bad.. because ?????”
Yes. I think it’s very bad. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think dead people should be allowed to vote. I don’t think anyone should be allowed to vote in place of someone else–a proven common occurrence when no ID is required. Podlidowski wants to open the doors for voter corruption and fraud. Why is it that voter fraud always seems to benefit the left? What sense does it make to have elections when you don’t even know who is voting?October 17, 2016 at 5:44 pm #861344
redblackParticipant“very little interest in constitutional government?”
like not allowing obama’s supreme court nominees to appear before the senate? like that kind of “constitutional government?”
gotcha.
October 17, 2016 at 8:14 pm #861353
dobroParticipant“I think it’s very bad. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think dead people should be allowed to vote.”
And who, exactly, thinks dead people should be allowed to vote? No…let me guess…uh…liberals, right?
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to vote in place of someone else–a proven common occurrence when no ID is required. Podlidowski wants to open the doors for voter corruption and fraud. Why is it that voter fraud always seems to benefit the left? What sense does it make to have elections when you don’t even know who is voting?”
“…The result: “analysis of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal.” The map above illustrates the number of confirmed voter fraud cases found by News21 dating back to 2000. Out of hundreds of millions of ballots cast, they counted 633 incidents.”
October 17, 2016 at 10:45 pm #861368
captainDaveParticipantdobro: The rate of fraudulent bank withdrawals is infinitesimal in comparison to the number of bank transactions every day. Should banks stop requiring id for withdrawals?
October 18, 2016 at 8:53 am #861403
waynsterParticipantHere is another fact check on voter fraud ……funny how it so wide spread…
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/reality-check-voter-fraud-donald-trump/index.html
and a little humor to along with the voter fraud accusations…..
http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2016/10/06
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October 18, 2016 at 2:08 pm #861439
JoBParticipantCaptain Dave…
banks don’t require photo id for withdrawals..
you can step up to any ATM machine in America and insert a card and as long as you know the pin and there is money in the account it spits out money…didn’t you know that?
October 18, 2016 at 5:26 pm #861466
redblackParticipantit ain’t voter fraud that’s the problem. it’s election fraud.
and bush v gore did not benefit the left, dave.
loooong ballot box lines and on-the-spot voter disenfranchisement in poor and minority precincts that were likely to go for obama in ’08 was largely due to republican poll-watchers putting undue and unconstitutional pressure on voters.
which led to even more poll-watching by the left in 2012 – and those poll-watchers were rooting out and eliminating the very problem you’re complaining about, dave. dobro’s link bears that out.
no, we don’t need voter ID. we do need authoritarian (oops!) electoral campaign finance regulation and accountability. but the wealthy right, the corporate media, and SCOTUS disagree. (so does hillary, btw. and i guarantee that chris wallace ain’t gonna broach the subject.)
you’re carrying their water, dave.
October 18, 2016 at 8:28 pm #861484
dobroParticipant“dobro: The rate of fraudulent bank withdrawals is infinitesimal in comparison to the number of bank transactions every day. Should banks stop requiring id for withdrawals?”
This kind of crap is exactly what makes it difficult to have reasonable conversations. The conversation we were having had to do with voter fraud. I provided factual evidence that voter fraud is infinitesimal compared to the hundreds…once again…HUNDREDS of millions of votes cast. Does the Cap’n have a believable source to refute such facts?
Apparently not, since we go directly to a non-sequitur that has nothing to do with the discussion. Or was that some kind of attempt at humor that I missed because we’re on the internet?
October 19, 2016 at 12:27 am #861511
JanSParticipantCapt. Dave…I don’t really give a damn where you live , but you complain enough about every damned thing about this city and this state, I figure there must be one good thing you like about it that makes you stay. You share a lot of your “business” with us, by the way…so don’t get huffy, please. It was an honest , serious question. Nunya will have to suffice, I suppose.
I did not tell you to leave….I honestly wondered that if you hate it so much here, and obviously dislike a lot of the people since it’s so “liberal”, there had to be a “why” you stay. Just making conversation…but I will say again…I never ever said for you to leave. Please do not read things that aren’t there.
Regarding another post that you made…do you actually know of instances where there were votes by dead people? Or are you ASSuming that happens because someone somewhere said it?
Also…we don’t go to the polls here…how in the world does one show ID while voting on a mail in ballot? When I registered to vote I showed ID…that’s got to be enough, thank you very much. Maybe I’m naive, maybe just honest. It would never ever occur to me to somehow vote for someone else, unless it was perhaps helping an elderly person, or an arthritic person actually vote themselves. And I don’t think I know anyone who would, either. However…it was just discovered that ballots that had been lawfully voted on by people in North Carolina had their ballots taken by the GOP in that state, and they were holding them.Came to light after a firebombing there. As someone else said…that’s election fraud…and it wasn’t those damned “libtards” doing it, either !October 19, 2016 at 4:47 am #861517 -
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