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October 7, 2011 at 2:10 am #736170
JoBParticipantBostonman…
you really should attend a demonstration for something you believe in before labeling those who do as as irresponsible.
you would be astounded who you meet at a demonstration.
if i still had the energy and stamina to do so i would join them… and i am far from irresponsible.
October 7, 2011 at 2:43 am #736171
kootchmanMemberThe looniest are the most fun to watch. Now Elkipedia.. this is a bottom up movement? Labor is involved, MSNBC has nothing good to report so they are playing it like a worn out fiddle. Keith Olberman has made it his devine mission to make this turkey fly like a Great American Eagle… it;s a buncha frustration.. and it plays so nicely… “99%” think they have a “1%” demon. This is a generation where 8 out of 10 couldn’t find Iraq on a map… they have no clue what to do… and frankly, neither the depth of knowledge to even know who did it to them, or what to do about it.. the sloganeering is cheap, pointless, and ineffectual but has the advantage of “simple and easy to understand”… “they” did it. Blame “them”… This is such fruitful ground for a Jay Leno episode of “Jay Walking”…
October 7, 2011 at 2:48 am #736172
kootchmanMemberProtest is the spice of democracy… however capsaicin is but one of the spices… do protest, do so wildly… but if you want “street cred” quit bitching about the spices. It is part of protest… without it, it’s just a dull gathering. Man up!
October 7, 2011 at 2:54 am #736173
kootchmanMemberSydney… so..your beef is she is good looking? I love it. An educated woman, from a wealthy family, accomplished business woman, and you slam her creds? You’ve come a long way baby!
Heck we have a tall handsome man, Harvard educated, elitist schools, lazy Senator, no business clue, no military clue, you call that a President?
October 7, 2011 at 3:41 am #736174
SmittyParticipantPlease, please PLEASE keep interviewing these people.
It is wonderful entertainment and does nothing but confirm conventional wisdom.
God bless whoever thought up occupy wall street!
October 7, 2011 at 4:00 am #736175
hoffanimalParticipantKootch, keep stirring the pot. You just described your friend Bush league, except he was a govenor not a senator. How do you deny the concentration of wealth that is going on in this country? I am guessing you think it a good thing. Funny that the right wingers talk about being good christians out one side of their mouth and then any social programs are just communist entitlements. At least pay for your wars dude, or maybe even put them on the books.
October 7, 2011 at 4:10 am #736176
redblackParticipantsmitty: ’cause only smart people know what’s really going on.
am i right?
anderson vanderbilt – now that guy is in touch with the people.
October 7, 2011 at 5:13 am #736177
elikapekaParticipantYes, Kootch, from what I can tell it is a bottom up movement. Yes, union members are showing up. But the unions themselves did not start it, organize it or fund it. It seems to be organically growing, at least to me. MSNBC is reporting on it, of course, like every other media outlet. They’ll concentrate more on it just like Fox concentrates on the tea party folks.
And “sloganeering”? The right has done a great job of the two or three-word slogan. It’s been a very effective tool for them. You get media attention with sound bites. It’s just the way it works.
I can remember some pretty stupid tea party people being interviewed too. Not everyone in any group is well-spoken and articulate.
Boy, this is really touching a nerve with some of you, isn’t it?
October 7, 2011 at 5:29 am #736178
chrismaParticipant3 minutes of video of an articulate, well spoken participant in the Occupy Wall Street movement, being interviewed by a Fox News Reporter. You may have caught a clip of this if you watched Stewart last night, but I didn’t see it on this thread and seems appropriate to post.
I especially like that last 30 seconds or so, and I think you will too kootchman.
October 7, 2011 at 1:32 pm #736179
JoBParticipantThis fledgling movement… is a lot bigger than most of you seem to realize.
and while it may be trivialized in the national press…
that doesn’t mean it is trivial.
yes, i know this is from mother jones…
but you might find the maps and other info entertaining…
October 7, 2011 at 1:34 pm #736180
JoBParticipantthis “movement” btw…
is what happens when you energize a generation of young voters and then fail to fulfill the promises made to them.
they get expectations…
and not for some looney tune universe either…
just for one where they have a fair chance to succeed.
October 7, 2011 at 1:44 pm #736181
anonymeParticipantchrisma – great vid clip. Interesting revelation about Faux News.
I hope this movement becomes HUGE. The revolution is long overdue.
October 7, 2011 at 1:57 pm #736182
sydneyMemberIf a conservative woman is good-looking and sits on the corporate side of things, she is eligible to parrot the right-wing’s talking points. In Erin Burnett’s case, she is also a banker & daughter of the WORST sort of lawyer, an apologist for big business.
Small business is human, necessary, wonderful, all that. Big business has too much power since it sends us to war and colludes to squeeze all the juice from us. Why does Kootchman support them?
October 7, 2011 at 2:12 pm #736183
JoBParticipantsydney…
better yet.. why have so many jumped on the these kids are lazy good for nothing party animals without a work ethic bandwagon?
“Those kids” … the ones our parents were sure were destined for abject poverty…
laid the groundwork for the technical revolution that currently defines our society.
they are the parents who produced the kids who turned fledgling sciences into blockbuster businesses.
they are the grandparents of those kids who had to mortgage their futures to attend college because the top 1% has sucked the wealth that once paid for those educations out of the middle class.
they are the great grandparents of children just now entering the education system… the children who are the hope of our national future.
those who tried to trivialize the youth of what we call the 60s weren’t right then.
and the jump on the bandwagon belittle them crowd is unlikely to be right now.
October 7, 2011 at 3:32 pm #736184
JiggersMemberI just wonder after observing them yesterday, if they actually know why they are protesting. There was a couple of small groups, maybe very early twenites or younger One group was beating on a conga, but they weren’t making sense. A blonde young, very young girl seemed to like the attention she was receivng by swaying her body back and forth while mumbling something out loud. They don’t realize how stupid they looked and sounded. I guess when I was that young, I made an ass out of myslef at times too without realizing it
October 7, 2011 at 3:36 pm #736185
JoBParticipantjiggers…
i think it is a given that young people often seem to be making an ass out of themselves to older people:)
as for knowing why they are there…
i think there are two questions..
why are they there?
they are there because they are dissatisfied with the status quo
what do they want to accomplish?
I don’t think they currently have any better answers to that than the rest of us
but they do know that what is happening economically in our country right now isn’t right
October 7, 2011 at 3:55 pm #736186
kootchmanMemberOh yea.. all that business experience Obama had… none? And his attendance record as a Junior Senator? One of the worst. He was a clueless liberal idealogue and he stacked his entire cabinet with the same. You infer or assume Bush was more preferable, he was not. Take your lumps. On this the 10th anniversary of Afghanistan, a war in which the current president now has spent more money on than the former. I see the Gitmo indictments started yesterday… wasn’t BHO going to close that facility..AND end the wars, and create a kumbaya kinda world? The cards are falling. Fast and Furious is getting uglier everyday, we have an attorney general that has perjured himself, damning evidence over Solyndra (one resignation so far) .. of course we have Occupy Wall Street..ANYTHING to distract the public… using those Chicago type ACORN “community organizer tactics.. Occupy DC is paying demonstrators, that’s grass roots alright. Wall Street is hurt..hurt because of ALL the campaign money they gave the DNC and they seem downright ungrateful. You have no idea who your enemy is. Well from the 53 per cent that carry the rest… we will be hiring when this is all over … be patient. Got a few things to repeal and a few elective offices to secure first. JoB I think you have the chronology off a tad.. like two generations off. These kids are so helpless and confused because they are used to eternal handouts … they don’t have the resilience. When Jimmy Carter was fumbling.. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and the supporting cast members were busy making and creating new opportunity. Ah these “revolutionary” protestors.. this is the generation when queried, 2 out of 5 could not identify the three branches of government. MSNBC is covering this… of course they are…no one watches them for any other reason.. BTY Happy Birthday FOX news.. 15 years old today… the #1 watched news programming 10 years in a row! Fair and Balanced …
October 7, 2011 at 4:25 pm #736187
waynsterParticipantDo I detect a jealous streak among our tea party followers? Gee this movement is growing faster and even bigger then the tea party…. class warfare you bet…. just what the republicans and tea party didn’t want or need. Why the middle class the poor and minorities outnumber them and tend to vote for democrats…… going to suck being upper midlle class rich and tea party 1% in 2012 the 99% will take back from greedy wall street bankers and corporations who think they can buy their way into the white house and congress… the true americans will rise up and take a stand…. its just the beginning
October 7, 2011 at 4:28 pm #736188
kootchmanMemberAhhh the envy…hot, smart, and conservative… bet she shaves her armpits too. The witch. Got some news for ya… there are very astute, smart, accomplished people who like conservative politics..if I wanted to hurt my eyes… I suppose I could watch ‘Rachel”… now there is a real sharp tack. A dumbed down version of Olive Oil… Whatever happened to gender solidarity? Measuring the daughter because of her father? Huh? Most people who do become successful trend conservative.. no news there.
October 7, 2011 at 4:33 pm #736189
kootchmanMemberThey already bought the White House waynster,,,, wanna see a federal election commission statement for Clinton, Shumer, Obama, Dodd, … ?? Ahhh yes… I am not in the 1% … don’t lump me in the fictional 99 per cent.. 78 per cent think this administration is on the wrong track. Just cause ya keep repeating it… don’t make it so. The middle class detests the left. They are not in your corner…they know who takes from them…
October 7, 2011 at 4:41 pm #736190
JoBParticipantKootch and waynster…
you two keep slapping one another on the back..
it warms the cockles of my heart to see you two whistling in the dark…
that Cain fellow.. he agrees with you too
isn’t that dandy…
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cain-tells-occupy-wall-street-protesters-blame/story?id=14674829
while his remarks headline the article…
you might want to read a bit deeper…
there is actual meat here.
the only problem with common sense is that it is no longer common
October 7, 2011 at 4:44 pm #736191
365StairsParticipantNo…certainly not trivial…but close to it unless they get some real direction – regardless of big Union on makeshift pulpits.
The social impact of this is huge…great facebook and tweet fodder…But that only lasts for about 5 min. and is old news…trumped by Michael Jackson’s trial and Amanda Knox’s next shopping trip to South Center… when they finally get the picture these little sit ins have a further damaging impact – financially and emotionally – nobody wins! Sure…they will say…”I was there man”….”I fought hard for change man”…but…what really got accomplished?
We are leaderless…because we are the people…and don’t need any direction…we will follow each other to the end……because Leaders suck!…(of course they do…but certainly not all of them)
Winters coming…anger only takes you so far…this will die out by Halloween…but the face paint will look good then…
And no matter how much news they get…or house floor attention they receive…it will not accomplish a thing…except cold hands and feet…and lots of questions about “What did I just spend the last month of my life out there for?”….
Even in 2012 when more Hope and Change come about…there will be something else to fight for and yell about…and sit…
“Momma always said…stupid is as stupid does”.
There is wrong all over the place…I certainly don’t have answers…but this isn’t one of them.
Sadly…several of those corporate leaders and politicians that all these folks are yelling about…were the same folks yelling and screaming about Peace Love and Real Change in the 60’s…
I guess…never ending story.
October 7, 2011 at 4:44 pm #736192
JoBParticipantbtw fellas…
is name calling the best you can do?
comments about witches, armpit shaving and measuring a woman by her dad?
ladies… are you listening to what these guys say when they think they have support?
you should be.
this is the real face of the tea party
October 7, 2011 at 5:08 pm #736193
TDeParticipantWell, I think Herman Cain just might be right. Maybe we are to blame for our circumstances so let’s gather ourselves up by our bootstraps, band together, take to the streets and fix our democracy. And quit heaping scorn on young people for recognizing that things are wrong and trying to find ways to fix it. At least they are trying to do something about it.
Are you saying that nothing’s wrong? What are you doing to fix anything besides making snarky comments on the Blog? Rise up… take it back. Do you think that only making snarky comments will change anything? And by the way, would you heap the same scorn on your wives and mothers and sisters that you are willing to heap on female American public personalities? Do you think that writing to your elected representatives will change anything – or has changed anything? What seems to work? What worked in the past? What has worked in other countries?
Unfortunately, taking to the streets in mass to terrify entrenched institutions seems to be the only way to get the attention of politicians. Please enlighten me if you can think of any other way. I’m all ears…
October 7, 2011 at 5:40 pm #736194
waynsterParticipantOk Job point taking true just a fyi kootchman would be the last one I would slap on the back in the dark for I fear the knife he might use on mine lol Nor have I ever said anything bad about women and politics could they be the real tea party….women do vote more then their male conterparts…oh also the supreme court opened the door to corprate spending in elections and it didn’t take long for the right to jump in kootch if I remember that happen in 2009 obama pointed it out during his state of the union and a consevative justice shook his head saying no it won’t so who bought what in 2010 mid terms…..
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