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October 5, 2011 at 9:42 pm #600795
JiggersMemberas i said a few weeks ago, it’s only a matter of time before it catches on here.. Fight the good fight people!
article,
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016411868_westlake06m.html
October 5, 2011 at 10:00 pm #736146
BostonmanMemberJust do it without breaking the law.
October 5, 2011 at 10:17 pm #736147
JoBParticipantBostonman…
so.. you expect people in Seattle to somehow be able to occupy any public space without rain shelters?
is that your do it without breaking the law moment?
if you can’t stand the rain.. go home?
is this like the 20’s dance-a-thons?
let’s see who can stand holding an umbrella the longest?
do they get bathroom breaks? I so hope so.
LOL.. you do tickle me today.
October 5, 2011 at 10:26 pm #736148
BostonmanMemberI didn’t say anything about not having shelter. They are occupying a public space on a 24 hour basis which is why they will get an eviction notice. I can’t set up a tent in Ercolini park and live there 24 hours a day either.
Other than that protest to your hearts content.
October 5, 2011 at 10:29 pm #736149
JoBParticipantBostonman…
they are not living there..
they are protesting there.
there is a huge difference.
ever participated in a sit in?
not much living going on.
in fact, to be perfectly honest..
except for brief periods of excitement
like when one of my best friends met her future husband
it’s about as entertaining as watching pain peel
October 5, 2011 at 10:31 pm #736150
JoBParticipantsome enterprising young reporter ought to do a story on the local food vendors reactions to the protesters:)
October 5, 2011 at 10:39 pm #736151
MTMParticipantOctober 5, 2011 at 10:40 pm #736152
JoBParticipantOctober 5, 2011 at 11:05 pm #736153
BostonmanMemberIf it was legal they wouldn’t be going through the action of forcing them out.
Have I ever participated in a sit in? Um no. Not for the reason I haven’t cared about something but more about the fact that I have worked my whole life and don’t have that luxery. I have responsibilities to keep up with. I guess its a good thing people with nothing to do all day exist so they can go protest something.
October 5, 2011 at 11:21 pm #736154
kootchmanMemberI love a good protest. But, do note that the grass roots Tea Party was .. a Koch Creation, racist gathering, rednecks, … etc etc… but to a a rally they were law abiding…did not block access to public transit or interfere with people going to and from their places of work.. and they had a message… What a contrast! Now, we will see the depths of their commitment… the weather will tell. Wait until the first snow in NYC… Seattle too. I fell on the floor laughing..JoB you have outdone yourself this time! we now have to provide shelter for self described anarchists.?? God I hope the don’t find out “Big Oil” makes hot showers and heated space possible too… I am going to quote you for weeks on that one! we have to make anarchists comfortable too? Next we have a city department for Anarchy Comfort.. and a user tax or fee buried somewhere to support it.. Truth is..aren’t they disturbingly familiar to the Greek protestors? The diff in this protest and the “sit-ins”? The sit-ins were against the order… these are to support the current order and this administration. These are the ones with the rejected resumes.
October 5, 2011 at 11:36 pm #736155
365StairsParticipantThis is going to get way ugly soon…Seattle WTC riots ring a bell (they made a movie about it).
Has NYSE, or any size bank, or any corporation done anything different in the recent weeks since this started?
No…
other than they probably are going to spend more on security…which will turn into increased consumer prices.
“We The People”…was never “Us Versus Them”
This will not accomplish anything. Ugly…
October 5, 2011 at 11:38 pm #736156
JiggersMemberto me it takes people like these who may have not had the best education, but they have balls, guts and believe if they do something about it they would be heard instead of laughing it up like here behind a blog like we do. i don’t know how you can not ignore the fact how bad our country is right now. if you don’t want to believe it then that’s you. the facts are there in the numbers how bad we are economically. one thing for certain is that you can’t pull the wool over my eyes.
October 5, 2011 at 11:44 pm #736157
kootchmanMemberJiggers.. Street Fighting Man.. Rolling Stones..Beggars Banquet album…crank it up. LOUD… or U Tube it if not in your collection.
October 5, 2011 at 11:51 pm #736158
JiggersMemberOctober 5, 2011 at 11:51 pm #736159
BostonmanMemberhttp://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/
If that is their list of demands they will be sitting in those tents for a long time lol. Better them than me. At least when I go to my boss with a list of items they are attainable.
October 5, 2011 at 11:56 pm #736160
kootchmanMemberMSNBC is saved..! They needed something to fill dead air space. They are milking this cow into a state of journalistic mastitis.
October 6, 2011 at 12:00 am #736161
JiggersMemberI agree with several of those, but good luck with the rest of those demands…lol
October 6, 2011 at 6:17 am #736162
CaitParticipantI’m sorry but all the people I saw interviewed on the news today had NO CLUE why they were there. Not great PR for the cause. It really make it look like a charlie foxtrot out there…
October 6, 2011 at 6:47 am #736163
redblackParticipant365stairs: it’s been us-versus-them for over 30 years. hell, this country was born in the bloodshed over us-versus-them.
and us is losing. again.
October 6, 2011 at 6:52 am #736164
redblackParticipantbostonman: from your link:
Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands.
October 6, 2011 at 2:08 pm #736165
KenParticipantIn Seattle as it is everywhere else, any protest soon attracts the fringe.
However, also as everywhere else, getting arrested also soon attracts the news media which had been ignoring the entire protest.
Tactics and strategy are not the same thing.
October 6, 2011 at 6:37 pm #736166
elikapekaParticipantI think a lot of people are underestimating this movement. This is a true bottom up movement, so no, it’s not well-organized or well-funded. There are no paid-for buses and signs and PR firms and funding like the Tea Partiers have. Plus the Tea Party bunch was mostly older people who were trying to hold on to what they have – I see the Tea Party as a basically selfish group of people who got theirs and don’t much care about anybody else.
But this is different. There is a real underlying discontent that is growing in our population every day. Our business and political leaders have become more and more divorced from society at large. People no longer feel economically safe – the institutions and philosophies that used to work, such as getting a good education, working hard in your chosen career, buying a home and investing, having a pension that will be there when you retire, are no longer a reality for the majority of the population. There are not just young kids at these protests. I’ve been in Westlake and seen people of all ages and backgrounds, including some in suits.
I think there’s something happening here, to quote an old Buffalo Springfield song.
October 6, 2011 at 7:13 pm #736167
TDeParticipant“I’m sorry but all the people I saw interviewed on the news today had NO CLUE why they were there. Not great PR for the cause. It really make it look like a charlie foxtrot out there… “
Right. The movement isn’t well defined. But here’s the thing: People are frustrated and angry because politicians aren’t doing the job they were sent to DC to do, the country remains divided and going nowhere fast, too many are still looking for jobs, the rich get richer and the middle class is rapidly becoming poor and that all seems to be OK with our politicians. Infighting has become the governing norm, a large number of our elected representatives are more than willing to take our money for their salaries and provide mostly for themselves and the wealthy, while they pay no attention to regular working folks out there who are paying for all those salaries and health benefits… not the mention the nice gym Congress gets to use.
So, people are taking to the streets to voice their complaints. If regular folks continue to be ignored, don’t be surprised if frustration boils over and becomes a little more like the WTO mess a few years ago.
And if it all does gel around one issue at any point, you might see a 60s type movement develop that was very effective at the time, but also tremendously ugly.
October 6, 2011 at 7:48 pm #736168
sydneyMemberWhenever the mainstream media covers a demonstration, several things are likely to occur: they’ll pay attention to the looniest, for ratings and to make the vast majority look foolish by association, they’ll be sure to focus on violence or law-breaking, which when it’s investigated is often provoked by law-enforcement officials themselves (as in the police waving protesters onto a bridge and trapping them there); and they will avoid actually talking to leadership or showing the actual sweep of the protest. On top of that, they are actively putting them down, trying to initiate “groupthink”.
I see that the board of trade building has a banner displayed in its windows which reads “we are the one percent”, proving that they do not care a whit what happens to the other 99% when their businesses gouge the crap out of ’em. Remember when ‘usury’ and ‘gouging’ were criminal? I do!
I’d like to point out that Erin Burnett, a talking Barbie doll on CNN, is the daughter of a corporate lawyer, and used be VP at Citibank. She is engaged to the president of Citibank. How is she a “journalist”????
October 7, 2011 at 2:08 am #736169
JoBParticipantI would like to point out that the occupy Wall Street movement has garnered enough attention to warrant a question at the White House briefing this morning.
Obama did a poor job of answering the question…
but he did a great political tap dance over it.
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