No Dogs at the Beach!!

[mark47n]

Encourage away, Skeeter. For my part, though, this isn’t “part of the problem”. The problem is more global. My problem is that when I change my behavior then the system changes. I lower my electricity usage so my rates go up. I limit my fuel usage through more efficient means of transportation or walking/cycling but I pay more and more in fuel taxes on what I do use. I call the cops but they don’t bother to show up. The list goes on…so, I take my dog to the little pocket beaches so she can enjoy the water, too. I don’t feel guilty about it. I don’t care what other people think about it. If you want to view it as a discourtesy that’s your problem. I’m not hurting anyone and my dog is cleaner than most people on the beach, even if she poops, since I clean it up immediately. My dog doesn’t leave garbage strewn about. My dog doesn’t stab or shoot anyone. My dog doesn’t accost anyone. My dog is also always leashed, even when she’s swimming.

So, I’ll keep doing what I do. If you don’t like it that’s fine. just don’t expect me to agree with you or care about your opinion if you chose to accost me.

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[skeeter]

Thank you for leashing your dog mark47n!

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[gxnx]

“My dog doesn’t leave garbage strewn about. My dog doesn’t stab or shoot anyone. My dog doesn’t accost anyone. My dog is also always leashed, even when she’s swimming.”

Oh you forgot to mention, your dog is super friendly, loves kids and does not bite……….ha ha

I was attacked by a German Sheppard at LP near the gas station a couple years ago and the owner just took off.
There are owners letting their dogs run loose on the Solstice Park and when you walked into the open space, the dogs just chased you.
My neighbor let his dog loose at nite and I got videos to prove it. Poop in front of the lawn outside the house.
Cats too!!

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[mark47n]

My stupid lab is sweet and loves people. She’d help a burglar clean out my house. She does love kids. I also keep her leashed, genius.

I know that critical reading isn’t one of your skills, gxnx, but try to keep up. My point was that, in terms of problems on Alki, my dog is way safer and cleaner than people.

There are crappy dog owners, yes, though I believe that the vast majority of us are responsible owners who clean up after our dogs and keep them leashed, you just don’t notice them because we’re responsible. There are crappy people, too, and you’ll just have to come up with a way to live with them (or me if you wish). So, my advice for you is to suck it up, buttercup. Life ain’t fair and the rules aren’t written to suit you. Learn how to flex and pick your battles and you’ll have a better life.

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[gxnx]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=christian+cooper+central+park

Told ya all….no dogs mean no dogs on the beach and on the tennis courts….
what don’t you understand???!!!!

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[gxnx]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=christian+cooper+central+park

Self righteous dog owners!!! listen…and follow the rules.
BTW- nobody really gives a s**&^ht how cute your dogs are…nobody really cares..so get off the beach
I always see dogs off leash on the beach while I was walking and the dogs are like ready to attack me.

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[mark47n]

The Christian Cooper story is not about dogs, it’s about a crappy owner.

I get the impression, in your last post, that you’re afraid of dogs. Is that the case? There’s no shame in it. That said, MOST, dogs (never all) don’t have any plan at all to attack you. My pitbull (that’s right), who’s cute and friendly and loves children as she rolls on her back for them to give her a scratch, has no plans to attack anything except the food in her bowl or my beer can.

Finally, people do understand. They know the rules. They openly flout them for whatever reason betting that there will be no consequence and, guess what there usually isn’t.

You’re going to do yourself harm if you keep going this way.

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[Merilieu]

It’s interesting that no one has brought up the effect of dogs on the beach on the environment. I’m just going to paste this here, for purposes of education and (optimistically) enlightenment, of all dog owners:

The evidence that dogs negatively impact wildlife is overwhelming. It is clear that people with dogs – on
leash or off – are much more detrimental to wildlife than people without dogs. Dogs (Canis lupus
familiaris) are considered to be a subspecies of wolves (Canis lupus), and wildlife perceive dogs as
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predators.
Impacts include:
1. Physical and temporal displacement – The presence of dogs causes wildlife to move away, temporarily or permanently reducing the amount of available habitat in which to feed, breed and rest. Animals become less active during the day to avoid dog interactions. Furthermore, the scent of dogs repels wildlife and the effects remain after the dogs are gone.
2. Disturbance and stress response – Animals are alarmed and cease their routine activities. This increases the amount of energy they use, while simultaneously reducing their opportunities to feed. Repeated stress causes long-term impacts on wildlife including reduced reproduction and growth, suppressed immune system and increased vulnerability to disease and parasites.
3. Indirect and direct mortality – Dogs transmit diseases (such as canine distemper and rabies) to and from wildlife. Loose dogs kill wildlife.
4. Human disease and water quality impacts – Dog waste pollutes water and transmits harmful parasites and diseases to people.

Please note, your dogs’ scent, and therefore its negative effects, remain long after you go home.

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[VBD]

Merilieu, everything you posted is true for humans as well. Humans displace far more wildlife and have a significantly larger environmental impact than dogs ever will.

I’m all for keeping dogs under control, and following the leash and scoop laws. But your argument is just silly.

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[mark47n]

Dogs are the avatar of evil in this world, eh? Doubtful.

My dog doesn’t drive a car, engage in deforestation, damaging wetlands for the sake of earning a few more dollars or anything else.

I, on the other hand, drive a diesel pickup, have motorcycle for fun, work in a steel mill and consume to products of agribusiness.

I make it sounds worse than it is to make a point, before you feel smug. People are responsible for ecological damage. If dogs are perceived as predators that’s because they are. But they aren’t able to engage in the mass killings that humans are capable of.

So, dogs aren’t the problem, Merilieu, you are…as are the rest of us and, as such we are responsible for limiting our impact.

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[anonyme]

Merilieu, thank you for making a very valid point. The impact of dogs is directly related to human behavior, and humans are indeed the greatest plague on earth. So there you go. Humans make a lot of senseless, selfish choices and the dogs are just along for the ride. They’re not to blame – they are just doing what dogs do, but the impact is real just the same and should not be minimized. The human species in general (and individuals in particular) tends to think way too highly of itself.

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[florida]

Entitled scofflaws will say anything to get their way, including telling the police, “I’m being attacked by an African Ameerican man””

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