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April 11, 2008 at 2:26 pm #617667
JoBParticipantApril 11, 2008 at 5:33 pm #617668
JoBParticipantcharla…
i don’t know why you are so angry that you have decided my motives are malignant…
but that does explain a lot.
do you need a hug?
April 11, 2008 at 7:51 pm #617669
walfredoMember“We’ve been borrowing money like nobody’s business from China,” he said. “We’re like that cousin who always comes and never seems to have a job. He’s out there buying new rims on his car, but can’t pay the rent.”
Great Barrack quote today, sounds a lot like a Chris Rock routine… Good to see he’s still having fun out there.
April 11, 2008 at 7:57 pm #617670
AnonymousInactiveYeah, Chris Rock is someone to aspire to.
April 11, 2008 at 8:24 pm #617671
JoBParticipantwalfredo..
i am glad he’s having fun out there..
he could do worse than Chris Rock
maybe we will get to know him a little better.
April 11, 2008 at 9:02 pm #617672
walfredoMemberNewRes- when you are telling a joke, and trying to be funny- you could do a lot worse.
There is a Chris Rock long tirade about “wheels” and broke people, who can’t feed there kids, or get a job, but have fancy wheels. It’s actually pretty damn funny, and it made me chuckle to hear Barack perhaps, make reference to it…
April 11, 2008 at 9:26 pm #617673
AnonymousInactiveMy brother is a huge Chris Rock fan. Rock said something about 7 years ago that was extremely offensive to me (won’t get into it. Been there, done that).
I suspect this is one of the reasons young America is so in lust for Obama. He can reference popular culture that relates to the younger crowd. It’s a good strategy and if he gets the nomination, he will be ten times more attractive (to younger, credulous voters) than McCain in the fall.
April 11, 2008 at 10:17 pm #617674
KayleighMemberI love old broads (not that y’all are old! Or broads!) and I love Obama. But I don’t like Chris Rock; I think he’s mean. Same with Sarah Silverman.
April 11, 2008 at 10:34 pm #617675
AnonymousInactiveI’m surprised, Kayleigh, that we agree on that. Looks like we have more in common than we would have thought.
I’m confused? Are you calling me an old broad?
April 11, 2008 at 10:45 pm #617676
KayleighMemberNonono, NewRes! Was referring to Charla’s comment about “old broads” at war.
I’m really not mean and I don’t like mean people.
:-)
It’s got to be time to go home. This day is endless.
April 11, 2008 at 11:19 pm #617677
charlabobParticipantWhat do you mean by that? Are you calling me mean? Old? Old and Mean? Mean and Old? Wait a minute, that’s what *I* called me. So you stole my lines. Stop thief. I don’t understand. I do understand. I’m offended. No I’m not. Oops…gotta go Dolly the Llama awaits…can you imagine? Someone actually thought *I* needed mellowing? Wait ’til I give Dolly a piece of my mind…I don’t like his politics. I don’t like his betrayal of the Tibetan People. And his color choices suck. :-)
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April 13, 2008 at 3:14 am #617678
WSMomParticipantHey there Charla and BDG–
This will make you happy. My friend Danielle just called me with the most exciting news. She was walking around Greenlake today and came upon US Senator Jim McDermott. After kindly asking if she could join him, she spent the next hour sharing why she believes he should cast his superdelegate vote to Barak Obama. Sen. McDermott grilled my friend with questions for the entire hour. At the end of the walk, he shook her hand and gave her his word that at the convention, if Sen. Obama has the most pledged delegates, he will do the right thing and cast his vote for Obama for president.
Danielle also mentioned that you won’t see Sen. McDermott endorsing anyone before all of the states have held their primaries because he believes strongly that all of the citizens of the US should have their vote counted and have it mean something.
Danielle Pattalochi is a Obama delegate campaigning to go on to the national convention in Denver. Last summer she got vanity license plates on her car that say “Obama08”. That speaks devotion in my book :)! So district delegates, remember Danielle when it’s time to vote on May 17th for Washington State delegates to the DNC.
April 13, 2008 at 3:21 am #617679
charlabobParticipantThanks, WSMom. I’m especially impressed with her license plate. Many people won’t commit to a bumper sticker; if I had a vote, she’d get it. :-)
April 13, 2008 at 3:37 am #617680
beachdrivegirlParticipantWSMom, thank you so much! Reading your post is music to my ears!!! :) I am very impressed with the license plate and will tell a coworker of mine that is going to the convention but can not go any further to keep an eye out for Danielle. Again, thank you WSMom, for making my Saturday night great!!!
April 13, 2008 at 4:22 pm #617681
charlabobParticipantPatriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it. — Mark Twain
The attempt to distance Obama from people of faith, and from his religious history is particularly disingenuous, since his intimate personal knowledge faith was a major part of his speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004.
The current controversy, dishonestly promoted by Obama’s opponents as his attack on religion or his elitism, shows that Clinton and McCain have both learned well the “Attack them on their strength,” strategy from Karl Rove.
Obama’s faith and translation of that faith into action is a strength with people of all faiths –and people of no faith. It’s part of how he can bring us together.
Meanwhile, here’s something for the “Hate Jeremiah Wright” crowd who try to convince us that Wright Hates America: Wright’s military record. (This article was written by noted left winger. Lawrence Korb, an assistant secretary of defense in the Reagan administration.)
Fortunately, Obama has so far been much too smart to take the bait.
We should all have such mentors and friends.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-oped0404wrightapr03,0,92000.story
April 13, 2008 at 5:36 pm #617682
charlabobParticipantThis link includes the complete text of Obama’s controversial statement about the effect of politics on the working class, along with some pointed, on the mark commentary about the responses, especially from Clinton. Hint: she’s now even waffling on gun control.
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/carpenter/042
I’m posting it here, because it also reminds me of what’s good about Obama — the Clinton info is almost incidental. Obama is straight talk; even when I don’t want to hear it.
For years, the right wings of both parties have lied to the working and middle-class about who their enemies are. Maybe, just maybe, Obama can speak the truth and be heard.
Meantime, watch CNN tonight at 5 for The Compassion Forum, a seminar on faith in the world, featuring Obama and Clinton:
April 14, 2008 at 3:15 am #617683
KayleighMemberAt first I thought Obama’s remarks were foolhardy, but then I read that link and understood them in context. He’s right, and Hillary has no shame (I luv ya, JoB, but I still think that’s true.)
I am once again in awe of Obama’s wisdom and his courage to say things few politicians say. And I wonder if Hillary has enough self-awareness to know how ridiculous she sounds waxing nostalgic about shooting a duck and claiming the mantle of Most Sympathetic to the Working Class. Or has she begun to believe her own spin?
April 14, 2008 at 4:44 am #617684
charlabobParticipantContext does help, doesn’t it KL?
The desperate attempts of the other side (both Clinton and McCain) to convince us that he’s elitist, antireligious, contemptuous of the poor don’t stand up very well when you actually read what he said.
BTW, The Compassion Forum on CNN will be repeated at 2 a.m. (and probably other times)…Tivo/DVR it and watch at a more civilized hour. It’s definite worthwhile — though maybe not at 2 a.m. :-)
You can find rerun times on CNN here:
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/
Clinton was interviewed first and Barack second. Once again, he displayed a unique ability to articulate faith, to answer hard questions about abortion and contraception without the BS and platitudes common to politicians.
He walks the walk and can talk about it coherently and without artifice. He understands the importance of implementing faith in the real world.
April 14, 2008 at 5:29 pm #617685
JoBParticipantKayleigh…
i have no idea what Clinton has said now that has become another soundbite… so no worries… ;->
And i don’t have time today to follow all the links to find what everyone thinks is so cool that Obama said… it’s tax time:(
however.. i do have two observations.
I believe in applying the same standards to everyone..
so if Rev Wright’s military service in Vietnam (or where he served.. the time period would suggest vietnam) is relevant. then so is McCain’s…
that doesn’t make me pro McCain.. NewResident will be more than happy to back me up on that one…
it just makes me equal opportunity.
The other is actually more of the same… If you believe that the way for your candidate to win is to vilify the opposition, then you should expect the same in return.
The one thing i have disliked most about this campaign is the double standard… any negative interpretation of anything the opposing candidate has said or done is not only all right, but righteous…
however, anything negative that is even implied about Obama is dirty tricks…
Looking at any candidate through rose colored glasses is comforting..
but it has the same net effect as preaching to the choir…
it will be interesting to see what FOX news has to say about all of this.. because they have the ear of those who will ultimately elect a president.
April 14, 2008 at 10:03 pm #617686
walfredoMemberJoB- that is an awfully cynical outlook to think that Fox News viewers are the folks w/ the pulse of the electorate, and the ultimate decision makers.
If that is the case, McCain has already won… I don’t think people really think that. They may have echoed the sentiment of the electorate in 2000 and 2004, but remember- in 2000 Gore actually won, so it wasn’t exactly the will of the people. In 2004, this failed war had about 35% more support from the American people, and John Kerry was a less then ideal candidate… And he still almost won.
I would say, that Fox has had its day, and people are ready for change. Note that the Rev. Wright story, that they have and continue to push with all there might, has had next to no impact in polling…
April 14, 2008 at 10:53 pm #617687
AnonymousInactiveWalfredo, I sure hope you’re correct. It would be nice if FOX had run it’s course.
April 14, 2008 at 11:02 pm #617688
charlabobParticipantWe should start a separate Fox Noise thread, but, in the meantime, Rupert Murdoch and Microsoft are getting ready to crawl in bed together to take over Yahoo. I don’t have time or energy to explain, but be afraid — be very afraid. Murdoch is well on his way to a dominant role in all chains of communication in the world. And he is not a benign presence.
Back to my conspiracy corner.
More relevant responses later. (Welcome back, Walfredo!)
Meantime, let me say that to equate the pulse of the nation with Fox news seems a bit elitist to me. Do we assume no blue collar people ever read the Prairie Populist or Mother Jones or the Huffington Post? :-)
April 14, 2008 at 11:14 pm #617689
AnonymousInactiveCharla, I read that too and thought what the hell. Can’t imagine there’s tons of people happy about this.
And for FOX, there’s always newshounds *we watch fox so you don’t have to*
April 15, 2008 at 1:48 am #617690
AnonymousInactiveWow. Kentucky congressman Geoff Davis called Obama *boy* in a speech.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/14/889357.aspx
April 15, 2008 at 1:59 am #617691
charlabobParticipantPerhaps the Congress should investigate Davis’ divulging of alleged information from a highly classified national security simulation. But, of course, we know what “highly classified” means to the Repugs when they smell a possibility of political gain — see the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson.
How long are these dangerous thugs going to be allowed to escape?
“he also recently participated in a ‘highly classified, national security simulation’ with Obama.”
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