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August 28, 2008 at 7:07 pm #635837
JoBParticipantAccording to Wikipedia, Jon Stewart chooses not to declare affiliation with either party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stewart
however, he is a strong supporter of unions.
you should follow the link. i learned a great deal about him from his bio that only increases my respect for him.
August 28, 2008 at 7:15 pm #635838
charlabobParticipantMy guess is he’s quite far to the left of the organized Dem party. The NYT had an article about Stewart being the most trusted man in broadcasting; don’t know if they syndicated it from somewhere else. http://tinyurl.com/6abshe
This version of Jon’s show all started in 2000 with “Indecision 2000”. One of the features of that was Al Franken and Arianna Huffington, in bed together, doing political commentary. You could say it was the start of both of their political careers as well.
August 28, 2008 at 8:00 pm #635839
WSMomParticipantthe comedian Kathy Griffin describes herself as so far left she’s a Sandinista.
(I know, her humor is pretty “rank”, one of my mom’s favorite words, but she really makes me laugh).
August 28, 2008 at 10:20 pm #635840
Tonya42Member“The NYT had an article about Stewart being the most trusted man in broadcasting;”
You do all realize that John Stewart is a comedian right?
Granted the guy is hysterical but seriously….
I’d like to chime in about Biden, I don’t get it? Why him? The man couldn’t garner even 1% in Iowa so he dropped out? He does not represent change, he’s been in politics for over 30 years and is one of the good ol boys.
Why not Richardson, or I don’t know anyone else??
Biden is a typical Irish Catholic guy who grew up middle class and can’t quite believe that he’s managed to “blarney” his way into a lifetime membership in the US Senate. He can’t help shooting off his mouth and actually doesn’t realize how ridiculous he sounds when he tries to act pretentious. On the plus side, having gone through a horrible personal tragedy he does actually have some compassion for individuals who are facing difficulties. His attacks on John McCain are simply the way that the game is played and they both know it – just like Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neill were friends “after hours” even though they were rivals on Capitol Hill. I wouldn’t have voted for Biden for President because I disagree with many of his positions but in no way does he disturb me like Barack Obama, who is possibly the most dangerous candidate our country has ever seen!
Biden is one of the only men in the world who is constantly fighting with his conscience…and losing.
I guess I see that this election was being handed to the Dems on a silver platter and even with that they’ve managed to pretty much secure a loss. Why?
August 28, 2008 at 10:30 pm #635841
JanSParticipant“in no way does he disturb me like Barack Obama, who is possibly the most dangerous candidate our country has ever seen!”
Tonya, specifically…what is dangerous about him? Maybe you could enlighten us.
Also, tell us how you’ve become so close to Joe Biden that you know how he fights with his conscience constantly….and loses.
You seem so sure of yourself…is this all opinion, or do you have something to back it up?
just curious..thanks for your answers in advance…
August 28, 2008 at 10:36 pm #635842
AnonymousInactive“Barack Obama, who is possibly the most dangerous candidate our country has ever seen”
What does this even mean? Dangerous to who? How? Is that all the republicans have? Scare tactics.
Sorry Jan, was typing while you posted.
August 28, 2008 at 10:39 pm #635843
ZenguyParticipantBiden is not an exciting choice IMO. However he does have tons of foreign policy experience and can be a bit of a pitbull in hearings, which both help Obama. On the plus side he gets great ratings on women’s and gay issues.
I would have rather seen Claire McCaskill a down to earth Senator from Missouri or Brian Schweitzer a popular Democratic governor of a Republican state.
August 28, 2008 at 10:47 pm #635844
JoBParticipantTonya42..
yes, i think we are all aware that Jon Stewart is a comedian.
that’s the point. did you not get that????
August 28, 2008 at 11:47 pm #635845
Tonya42MemberI have read his (Biden’s) book, “Promises to Keep” (I recommend) that and I’ve followed his career since I have had a keen interest in politics since moving here to the US.
Why do I find Obama disturbing and dangerous? I have voiced my opinion here on several occasions but unfortunately people around here seem to only hear what will back up what they desperately want to believe. This is not a slam; it’s typical of most forums. I myself have tried to wrap my brain around what Barack Obama stands for and you know, I can’t figure it out?
Every time I ask a supporter why they support him and what has he done I get the usual rhetoric. Secondly, the man is not honest. He refuses to admit who he is and what he stands for and for that matter who he stood with up until he started to run for the presidency.
This is a huge liability for Democrats and their prospects to win I believe. The facts are clear. Obama has grown up under the wings or 60s era collectivists that are far more about a radical transformative Marxist/ Progressive agenda for the USA, and a lot less about any benevolent JFK style mainstream socially conscious policy. Because Obama denies and lies about his associations the only option the Dems have is to try to suppress this at all costs. But the more they try to cover this up, the bigger it will get.
Obama could have very easily avoided the most radical elements of his upbringing if he was serious about being a new kind of candidate. But instead he openly embraced people like Ayers and Wright. And in return, he was fast-tracked into the Machnchurian Progressive that they need as a vehicle to get the power the desire.
Progressives always overreach in their desire for power, because their ideology is one of unapologetic control of their fellow man. They will trample any written law or traditional value to put their power in place, and they do so with recklessness that guarantees ties to radicals like Ayers.
Obama is the worst kind of leader for the US I believe. Regardless of how bad McCain is from either a right or left perspective, he is by far the more American, more individualist, and more benign candidate for freedom and sensible American values.
Have you ever been a friend or business associate of a terrorist? Not someone who, to your shock and horror, turned out secretly to have bombed government buildings. No, the question is whether you’ve ever befriended an unreconstructed radical whose past was well known to you when you entered his orbit and walked through doors he opened for you. Have you been chummy with an unapologetic terrorist who, years after you’d known and worked closely with him, was still telling the New York Times he regretted only failing to carry out more attacks — and that America still “makes me want to puke�
Barack Obama has.
What kind of idiot thinks it is OK to put in charge of defending us from terrorists, a man who consorts with terrorists?
August 29, 2008 at 12:03 am #635846
JoBParticipanttonya42..
there is really no place to start with your assessment.
was Obama under the wing of 60s era collectivists when he was with his mother or during his formative school years with his grandparents?
was this during his flirt with the black power movement in his late teens or at law school as a young man?
or would that have been when he entered politics in chicago and became involved in the black political movement there?
Do you think it is possible to be involved in the black political movement in chicago or to be involved in the literary community surrounding the University of Chicago without socializing with many people who were actively involved in the “revolution” that fizzled in the united states during the 60s.
Perhaps, not having lived here during that time and not having been raised here, You don’t understand the culture well enough.
or the concept of free speech…
or the the concept of not being held guilty by association…
America had it’s brush with the kind of accusations you are making about Obama.. in the 50s.. during the McCarthy era… and most of America is ashamed.
the kind of insinuations you are making are far more frightening than Obama.
you should also learn a little more about John McCain and his associations before you make comparisons…
i am sure some of those will surprise you. His terrorist “connections” are with current terrorists.
August 29, 2008 at 12:10 am #635847
AnonymousInactiveEveryone should be able to state their thoughts and opinions on this forum, whether we all agree or not.
Implying that someone does not understand our culture, or anything else, is a personal insult.
If you don’t like what someone says, refute it maturely, don’t insult people.
August 29, 2008 at 12:16 am #635848
JoBParticipantNew Resident…
perhaps we should stick to cooking..
though it is possible i might insult you by explaining how to boil water if you admitted that you had not grown up with a stove.
August 29, 2008 at 3:39 am #635849
RSMember“[McCain] is by far the more American, more individualist, and more benign candidate for freedom and sensible American values.”
The *more American candidate* WTF does that mean???
August 29, 2008 at 3:44 am #635850
JenVMemberyes, I would like to know how one is more American than the other. John McCain wasn’t even technically born in America…
August 29, 2008 at 3:46 am #635851
JenVMember(and yes, I know that’s a stupid point…but no less than most of the repugs come up with about Obama…)
August 29, 2008 at 4:08 am #635852
JanSParticipantit disturbs me that when people bring up that McCain is “more American” than Obama, it seems that it’s a veiled allusion to perhaps Obama really is a Muslim, and not of America. Even if he was of the Muslim religion, so what? There are many immigrants to American that are of the Muslim religion who love this country.
Obama was born in Hawaii, and the last time I looked it was part of the US…that he’s less of an American? that’s a hollow claim – what do people really mean by that?
remember…what I say is purely opinion, and not a reflection on anyone’s character…
August 29, 2008 at 4:17 am #635853
JenVMemberyou know what they mean by that, Jan…but they’ll never admit it out loud…but they come up with all sorts of not-so-thinly veiled ways to say it…like he’s “not American”
August 29, 2008 at 4:28 am #635854
beachdrivegirlParticipantTonya I beg to difer that Biden is a bad choice. as I have mentioned before i think it is fantastic that Obama has chose somone who will challenge him. Furthermore I think Biden trumps McCains Veteran card, and appeals to on the fence Republicans which is imprtant. You do realize that an election season is like a game of poker and Obama did just trump McCain dont you..its okay if you didnt we can wait till november. but Biden is a great choice and McCain and the Republican party will start to send their congrats after McCain announces Romney tomorrow as his VP…
August 29, 2008 at 4:34 am #635855
MagpieParticipantLet the games begin. I can’t wait for the debates, this is going to be a wild ride and I bet in the debates, McCain will remind us of Nixon and Obama will destroy him like Kennedy did in 1960. I may actually vote for a president that wins and that hasn’t happened often in my life. No more weeny democrats!! After watching this, I feel the clear choice is Obama.
August 29, 2008 at 4:52 am #635856
JoBParticipantI don’t think there will be actual televised debates.. because it would be impossible to sell the spin that John McCain triumphed after watching him stumble…
there are likely to be staged interviews which are branded debates…
the only one of these candidates strong enough to go up in front of cameras and think on his feet is Obama… and i think the republicans are smart enough to realize that.
August 29, 2008 at 6:44 am #635857
AnonymousInactiveHmmm, JoB, I don’t recall you being so supportive of Obama just a couple of months ago…..
What changed your mind?
August 29, 2008 at 2:03 pm #635858
JenVMemberhmm, NR- were you for McSame from the get-go? Do you really think JoB should still be supporting Hilary? It’s call UNITY and Democrats standing behind the best possible choice for president. Get used to it- we’re all fervent supporters of Obama now, we will all work together to ensure he gets elected.
“Now, I don’t believe that Senator McCain doesn’t care what’s going on in the lives of Americans. I just think he doesn’t know … It’s not because John McCain doesn’t care.It’s because John McCain doesn’t get it.” — Obama
“John McCain may pay hundreds of dollars for his shoes but we’re the ones who will pay for his flip flops.” – New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson
“John McCain … is now openly endorsing the policies of the Bush-Cheney White House and promising to actually continue the same policies over again? Hey, I believe in recycling but that’s ridiculous.” — Former Vice President Al Gore
August 29, 2008 at 3:05 pm #635859
WSMomParticipantJust in case you missed this last night…
The Obama biography video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/28/obama-biography-video-at_n_122271.html
Now, for the Daily Show version:
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=183509
great way to start the day with a smile
August 29, 2008 at 3:14 pm #635860
walfredoMemberNewRes- I think Hillary did a great job of making it perfectly clear how you can support her. In fact, after her speech, it is pretty clear that her supporters that refuse to stand up for the causes she has fought her entire career for offend her. If you are supporting John McCain, or staying home, or writing in Hillary and ignoring the challenges our country faces today, you are offending Hillary Clinton…
August 29, 2008 at 3:17 pm #635861
JoBParticipantNewResident..
i was very clear that if Obama won the nomination he would be my candidate.
my candidate is very clear that Obama has won the nomination and is her candidate.
That aside…
it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that Obama is smarter and quicker on his feet intellectually than McCain.
That’s why the republican smear campaign is trying to convince us it’s elitist to be smart.
I prefer the smart presidents to to the dumb ones.
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