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July 14, 2012 at 3:34 am #763628
JoBParticipantkootch
so what do you think all those businesses want for their money?
what more can they possibly want that they weren’t already getting from Obama?
now that is the million.. no trillion dollar question.
July 14, 2012 at 4:34 am #763629
metrognomeParticipantkooch — thanks for the chuckles; your posts are sounding a lot like what the coach says to his players in the locker room at half time when they are losing to a team they were supposed to walk all over. Your comment about the ‘distaste for Obama and his destruction of the American economy’ was priceless for soooooo many reasons.
If the Willard Republicans are so confident of winning, why are they expending so much effort to disenfranchise voters by passing voter ID laws that the courts are tossing out? And why are their PAC’s collecting tens if not hundreds of millions so Karl TB Rove can try to convince voters to forget who really screwed this country over. Speaking of which, where is Dubya anyway?
btw, didn’t Congress vote to approve the ACA? And don’t Republicans control the House and couldn’t they have prevented it from passing? Ditto for bills that contributed to the destruction of the economy? And didn’t R’s gladly accept money from those bills to fund local projects and then take credit for boosting the local economy when they voted against the bill?) I was unaware Obama was able to authorize and enact legislation all by himself, not to mention spending it by himself.
And no comments about Willard’s wholesale destruction of state records from his administration?
July 14, 2012 at 5:31 am #763630
dobroParticipantThe more I think about it, I think Mike Huckabee would be the guy they turn to. That’s a more frightening thought, because even tho he’s a right wing panderer too, he is capable of acting like he has empathy, something Mittens just can’t seem to fake.
July 14, 2012 at 8:47 am #763631
JVMemberMetro, did you know that there was an election in 2010?
And before that did you know that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ran the house and the senate since 2006?
And are you aware of all of the legislation Obama as taken upon himself to dictate?
Probably not, because none of that stuff is discussed during American Idol. Which is why you are clueless, and still have faith in Barry.
July 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm #763632
JanSParticipantJV…cheap shot…not needed here…adds nothing to the conversation, makes you look like an ass!
July 14, 2012 at 2:31 pm #763633
miwsParticipantJV, do you know if metrognome watches Idol?
As has been mentioned before, this is why many of us on the left, get angry and frustrated in trying to discuss topics here.
As is the case in the political world, and throughout the public comment arenas, so many on the right use these confrontational, bullying tactics, to try to get their point across.
It takes credibility away form the comment, and the commentor.
Mike
July 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm #763634
JVMemberJan/Mike,
Retread metro’s comment. It had insults, disrespect, lies, and multiple sentences showing his/her full blown ignorance.
I pointed out a few of the ignorant comments, and yes, capped it off with a zinger. Yet you are all bent out of shape about my post and call me an ass? Get over yourselves, and stop acting like you are the hall monitors of the WSB.
Your hypocracy and selective outrage are getting pretty old.
July 14, 2012 at 4:33 pm #763635
brewParticipantmiws – As a bystander who follows these political topics but elects not to participate, you cannot be more wrong in your statement. The bullying, name calling, mocking, and “confrontational tactics” usually starts from the ‘left” side of the argument.
July 14, 2012 at 4:53 pm #763636
redblackParticipantbrew: yeah, but i try to keep the insults aimed at public figures and, occasionally, some voting blocs, like the “tea party.” not posters here on WSB.
JV: so now democrats had four years to do anything and everything they wanted, huh? crushed the poor little corporate republicans and blue dog dems under their socialist boot heels, did they?
whenever i bring it up, none of you conservative/republicans ever address the fact that republican filibuster killed over 400 democratic bills in the senate between 2006 and 2010. all of that job-killing legislation that your “leaders” whine about at every opportunity died in child birth. it was hardly an oppressive democratic majority, let alone a bolshevik takeover of american industry or government.
hell, the ACA barely squeaked through the house. and if you’ll recall, republicans almost stopped democrats from having a filibuster-proof majority to vote on the ACA in the senate by delaying the swearing-in of al franken for almost a year. and outside of the ACA vote, what help have joe manchin, ben nelson, jim webb, mary landrieu, and that turncoat, joe liebermann – what help have they really been to our socialist cause?
July 14, 2012 at 4:53 pm #763637
kootchmanMemberYea miws.. sure it does. Actually CONTENT, however presented is where credibility starts. Same thing unions want for their money, party favors. It’s an old refrain metrognome… would Romney fire up the republican like, Christie? No. But, Romney is a little tight, he doesn;t pull out the modern version of Bojangles, and is a competent manager. I’ll take it as an alternative to the Barry show, which I haven’t decided…. is it a circus show and we are supposed to laugh at the bumbling clowns, or just a desperate character that wanders on the stage in a protracted tragedy play. Either way, he is an incompetent.
Talk about whistling past the graveyard… Obama will appeal to the multiple generations of dependency based constituencies that the Democrats have cultivated for years… the ones convinced they have no options in a free society with fewer impediments than any other on earth. But the great steam calliope is wheezing and the masses are done with Hope and Change. Republicans are out to save a republic… in deep peril from within. The stakes are to high to sit this one out. we have a dependency culture. “They” know it is wrong… but not yet have they realized it is their own fault. They rally to the flag of “it’s someone elses fault” cause it’s easier than “roll up my sleeves.” All of you on the left are frustrated… being a lemming is not as appealing as they believe. Shoulder to shoulder, nose to rump… they swarm to the cliffs edge and wonder.. who are those preservationists? why don’t they want to go over the edge with us?
This the third time this year the republicans in the Senate told Reid to bring out the Obama budget… let’s vote on it. No way in hell… not one single House bill has gone to the Senate and been allowed to proceed to a vote… redblack knows it..the public knows it… ans the Senate cries about a filibuster procedure that was created by the Senate Democrats.
July 14, 2012 at 5:00 pm #763638
redblackParticipantkootch: denial isn’t just a river in eqypt. you don’t have the american public on your side, and i’m not sure where you get those assertions. even the media says it’s going to be close.
then again, they say that just for the ratings – to sell more ad space to exxon and to keep the political football bouncing up the field.
but, man, the end of that last post brought a tear to my eye, and i caught myself mumbling battle hymn of the republic, softly.
LOL. not!
July 14, 2012 at 5:07 pm #763639
kootchmanMemberI can prove it… redblack.. count the number of house seats controlled by republicans. who do you think sent them there? … then add in the five democrats who voted to kill Obamacare… it will be a close presidential election by the polls.we will see who turn out. So far have we descended. Are you even paying the least bit of attention to the successive collapses of one local government after another? The burden cannot be born by the minority. The load is too heavy for so few to carry so many. Stockton, San Diego, Scranton, Detroit, Chicago, San Jose, .. etc etc …
July 14, 2012 at 5:08 pm #763640
redblackParticipantat the risk of talking past each other, kootch, since we appear to be feeling the effects of good coffee at roughly the same time today, democrats have a majority in the senate. that’s not the same as being the minority and being able to block legislation by procedure.
and you want to talk about harry reid and political theater? he called republicans’ bluff wednesday and told them he’d hold a vote on tax legislation. “no, we meant on our terms,” came the reply.
look. they’re the minority and in my opinion, harry reid needs to tell mitch mcconnell – publicly and loudly – to sit down and shut up.
[edit:] furthermore, look at the legislation your party is sending to the senate: abortion, guns, and a repeal of ACA 33 times. they claim that democrats can’t lead on the economy, yet all they can muster is silly grist-for-the-mill patriotic political heartland crap that doesn’t really address the issues that will turn the country around.
where are the bills about corporate subsidy, banking regulation, tax rates, and jobs?
July 14, 2012 at 5:16 pm #763641
kootchmanMemberThe Senate 6 year turnover rate was designed to NOT be reflective of the people… it was to be a more comtemplative body, to temper the impulses of the democratic ( small “d” ) impulses of the H of R…
MCCONNELL: Yesterday I tested the president’s rhetoric. I proposed that we do exactly what he wants and vote right away on the second stimulus bill he’s proposed as the supposed solution to our jobs crisis, and the Democrats blocked it. The president’s own party is the only obstacle to having a vote on his so-called jobs bill. So my suggestion to the White House is that if the president wants to keep traveling around the country demanding a vote on this second stimulus, that he focus his criticism on Democrats, not Republicans, because they’re the ones who are now standing in the way of an immediate vote on this legislation
Reason? All the taxes in the bill…. the Senate does not want to vote on the massive tax increases before the Nov election.
July 14, 2012 at 5:17 pm #763642
JoBParticipanta question can only be considered bullying when the question can’t be answered in a way that is acceptable to the recipient.
is that the case here?
if it is.. that should be sobering to those who can’t/won’t answer those questions
July 14, 2012 at 5:25 pm #763643
kootchmanMemberIn his opening remarks on Wednesday, McConnell asked for unanimous consent to vote on two amendments. One of the proposals, from Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), would extend all the Bush-era tax rates for a year. The other would only extend the tax cuts for incomes less than $250,000 a year, which is what President Obama supports.
July 14, 2012 at 5:32 pm #763644
kootchmanMemberNot my cup o’ tea there redblack.. tailor the response to assuage the sensitivities of the recipient. who can ever guess what that might be? For some the list is endless…and the high point of the argument is to focus on the “style” .. in fact preferred… then the issue can be completely ignored. 12 months and counting.. how does the left intend to balance the budget? Becomes Obama bashing…
July 14, 2012 at 5:36 pm #763645
redblackParticipantThe burden cannot be born by the minority. The load is too heavy for so few to carry so many. Stockton, San Diego, Scranton, Detroit, Chicago, San Jose, .. etc etc …
LOL. and it isn’t being borne by the minority – in this case, you mean the poor, downtrodden, overworked rich people – or anyone else.
the massive cuts that are going on in states and municipalities are by design, so that republicans can break government and take away its supporters’ economic parity.
sure. let’s bust those socialist firefighters down to minimum wage. how does that help the economy?
i’ll attempt to swing this back toward the topic. do you really believe that people are going to vote for republicans? after all, the austerity that you’re talking about is a result of tea party influence. you believe we will do that again – vote to cut our and our neighbors’ wages, so that we don’t have to pay taxes? because if you cut public sector wages and destroy their buying power, the ripple effects will reduce everyone’s wages.
in my opinion, neither faction of your party has considered the full long-term effects of continued austerity. you point to failing and bankrupt cities as if it’s some sort of symptom of socialist economic policy – when, in fact, it’s a symptom of low taxes, anti-tax sentiment, and a general distrust of government fomented by republicans – but you don’t offer any ways to fix the budget problems that you’ve wrought.
deeper and more draconian budget cutting will only reduce those cities and their people further. is this the country you want to live in?
July 14, 2012 at 6:18 pm #763646
metrognomeParticipantJV — need I remind you that personal insults are not allowed; I consider your comment that I am clueless to be a personal insult as you are attacking me rather than my ideas.
And, need I remind you of the unnecessary war Dubya lied us into? A war that drained resources from the Afghan war and the attempt to find bin Laden and extended that war’s length by years? And the fact that these two wars, including caring for the wounded soldiers for the next 50 years, will cost this country tens of billions, not to mention the cost in lives. And all because tin soldier Dubya wanted to prove he was a man to Bush41. Epic fail, to say the least.
And no, I don’t watch American Idle; don’t even have a tv that works. Prefer listening to artists who have developed their style over years instead of being forced to bloom early like hothouse flowers. Artists like Eva Cassidy, Paul Simon, Carrie Newcomer, Bonnie Raitt, etc.
July 14, 2012 at 6:23 pm #763647
dobroParticipantHere’s the quote from the rules in case anyone is unable to find the link…
Criticize, critique, and comment on the ideas, the events, the concepts, but NOT THE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THE DISCUSSION.- WSB rules
July 14, 2012 at 6:33 pm #763648
JoBParticipanti don’t know why this idea is so hard to grasp
July 14, 2012 at 10:13 pm #763649
kootchmanMemberredblack… a thought. Maybe the distrust of government is a condition government earned? The mere fact that so many hold that opinion is not some grand political chicanery… it’s because they have reason to.
July 14, 2012 at 11:04 pm #763650
dobroParticipantDistrust of gov’t is built into our Declaration of Independance and Constitution. As much as people want to generalize about R and D attitudes about govt, the fact is I’m a Democrat and I have what I believe to be a healthy distrust of govt. I certainly don’t believe everything I’m told and I do have critical thinking skills that bolster my BS detector.
Problems arise when distrust/hatred of govt is whipped up to the point of rendering us ungovernable. Something to remember is that, due to human nature, there will be those willing to capitalize on this distrust/hatred for their own purposes, thinking that when the sh*t hits the fan they’ll fly off to their private island. As history shows us,that’s not always the outcome.
July 15, 2012 at 2:24 am #763651
jamminjMember“Problems arise when distrust/hatred of govt”
ironic that the group that hates/distrusts govt SO MUCH, allows that same govt to run/operate the largest military complex modern history has ever seen. and actually wants to increase that military and power.
You can’t have it both ways, distrust your govt, but then turn around and hand them all this military power.
But not surprised in the land of teabaggers/GOP sea of hypocrisy they are swimming in.
July 15, 2012 at 2:26 am #763652
jamminjMembersome LOL stuff tonight,
would be funnier if it wasn’t so true.
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