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February 22, 2015 at 3:26 am #822039
In reply to: Car accident
anonymeParticipantI’m also pretty sure it’s against WSB rules to post a full license number…
February 22, 2015 at 3:01 am #822044In reply to: looking for rental home near junction!
beachdrivegirlParticipantWe just reneted our townhome out through Julie Barber @ Avenue 1. We charged a bit more but she knows the area. Try there :)
February 22, 2015 at 2:46 am #822038In reply to: Car accident
beachdrivegirlParticipantYes file a police report.
February 22, 2015 at 2:21 am #821775In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
beachdrivegirlParticipant$15 is extremely high. And overall will hurt small businesses. I think increasing the wage less and creating more subsidies for healthcare D&C is a better long term solution. This isn’t about minimum wage. Longshoreman make six figures and took away jobs from the minimum wage. Just like most management…. Difference is management has six figures in student loan debt that won’t be forgiven or subsidies because they are “rich”. But yes let’s keep crying for these poor long shoreman.
February 22, 2015 at 12:57 am #821774In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
dobroParticipant“I think $15/he is too high.”
So you’re not really THAT sorry for the poor minimum wage workers that you’d wish them to have a living wage. Ok then.
February 22, 2015 at 12:51 am #822037In reply to: Car accident
JanSParticipantand…you’ve contacted police?
February 22, 2015 at 12:23 am #821773In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
beachdrivegirlParticipantI didn’t say workers are bullies. I said long shoreman. At my exemployer our warehouse was next to their office. They were threatening and rude to our companies employees. Parking in our loading zone and threatening our employees with guns when asked to move. And everybody was afraid of them. So yes I think they are bullies.
February 22, 2015 at 12:14 am #821770In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
dobroParticipantSo, mostly what I get from your post is: Management does as they please. It’s their business, to open or close as they see fit. If employees don’t like the way they’re treated, that’s just tough. Do as the boss says or you’re fired. And if you don’t like it and talk back or think you should get better treatment, then you’re a bully. Start your own d*mn business!! But, besides all that, I really feel sorry for the poor minimum wage workers.
Interesting.
February 21, 2015 at 11:50 pm #821768In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
beachdrivegirlParticipantSo the unions want for their jobs is greater than all the jobs that were already lost? And my thiught is if they weren’t bullies which a lot of them are than companies wouldn’t want to move jobs away from them. Fact of the matter is aour exports are going to shift to the east coast. Our ecports will always be here the PMA would like alternate options to increase their efficiencies. Which we all should want. More efficient ports, create more exports, which helps our economy and creates more jobs. I’d love to see the statistics. But I think the jobs lost that (won’t be replaced in the short term) is greater than the number of jobs they were fighting for. It’s teally an unfortunate situation all around but this is really hurting the minimum wage workers most. Not the shipping companies. Not the longshoreman. And not the big mean corporations
February 21, 2015 at 11:44 pm #821767In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
dobroParticipantFrom the second article…
“According to the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM), when a breakdown in contract negotiations resulted in a 10-day lockout in 2002, it cost the U.S. economy an estimated $1 billion a day, and took half a year to clear the backlog.”
So it seems that just as there is a history of work slowdowns as you referenced twice in previous posts, there is also a history of costly lockouts staged by management. I wonder how that would have ended had there been no union to stand up for the workers? No, actually, I don’t wonder. The workers would have been fired en masse and untrained scab labor would have taken over very dangerous jobs at severely reduced rates.
February 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm #821766In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
dobroParticipantFrom the article…
“This whole thing is not about short-term wins but trying to preserve our jobs in the future,” responded Dean McGrath, president of ILWU Local 23 in Tacoma.
Longshoremen are not only concerned that importers are shifting to the East Coast but that foreign-owned companies operating the ports are trying to do away with the longshoremen’s jobs altogether, McGrath said.”
I guess if you think unions time is over and there’s no longer a place for them then you don’t really care what the spokesmen say. Thought experiment:if what he is saying is true and foreign companies would like to do away with longshoremen jobs, what approach would you take to try and keep your job? Just give up and say “oh, well, my time is up here, guess I’ll get myself a cardboard box to live in” or perhaps use a more proactive approach?
February 21, 2015 at 10:01 pm #821764In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
beachdrivegirlParticipantHere is an article that talks specifically about the long term affects. As well as the fact that at ONE port (not even one of the four largest on the West coast) had three times as many walk outs as usual. Union leaders can say all they want that it wasn’t their fault. But numbers don’t lie. Furthermore there argument is that they are looking out for their employees what about all the minimum wage jobs that are now just gone? Because you better believe that not all of these jobs are coming back because demand isn’t there.
February 21, 2015 at 9:36 pm #816807Topic: Road Rage Incident 2-20 at the Junction?
in forum Open DiscussionKatieHParticipantI witnessed what I think was a road rage incident at Alaska and California yesterday between a compact car and SUV in the early afternoon. If you were in the SUV, I am willing to be a witness on your behalf.
February 21, 2015 at 9:27 pm #821989In reply to: North Admiral Neighbors: Raccons in the Trash?
RarelyEverParticipantA weird thing happened to me on my way to work yesterday – I live on the corner of 55th and Charlestown. Yesterday, I was heading south on 55th, took a left onto Genessee, and one block up, in the middle of the day (it was 11:30am), two big fat raccoons crossed from right to left. Ambling, and giving me the stink-eye for having to abruptly break to not run them over. I’ve not seen them out in broad daylight, so I was rather surprised. Anyway, that’s why I keep my kitties indoors!
February 21, 2015 at 8:35 pm #821761In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
beachdrivegirlParticipantIt might be a bit less. But not much. ‘m combining numbers from not picking and our packing line being reduced and a few other jobs. I know you’d love to find some reason to “prove” me wrong.
February 21, 2015 at 8:28 pm #822041In reply to: Lincoln Park Shelters
seaopgalParticipantYes, you can use them without a reservation. Just be prepared to vacate if someone comes with a reserved sign & permit.
February 21, 2015 at 8:28 pm #821760In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
beachdrivegirlParticipantYes JoB my husband and I are self employed. We do consultant work.
My reference to laying workers off is in regards to my families business in agriculture where I’m a passive owner. I have no say in operations and currently take no distributions but am well aware per our financials on how this affected central WA economy and loss of jobs.
February 21, 2015 at 8:27 pm #821759In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
miwsParticipantYes, good article dobro, on that Damned liberal media!
Mike
February 21, 2015 at 8:11 pm #816806Topic: Lincoln Park Shelters
in forum Open DiscussionGawdgerMemberDoes anyone know if you can use the shelters if they are not occupied or reserved? Tried to call parks and rec today but no answer.
February 21, 2015 at 5:54 pm #821756In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
JTBParticipantJd, here is an article examining the factors contributing to the back-ups in West Coast ports. port delays
Picking up on your comment above, I’m reminded of the pivotal period in the 1970’s into the 80’s when U.S. industrial production sustained big declines in productivity relative to the rest of the world and management and organized labor collaborated in allowing inflation to obscure the growing deficiency rather than working together to foster mutually beneficial improvements. I’ve previously mentioned Gabor Steingart’s War for Wealth in which he holds both camps accountable for what he characterizes as corruption.
In any case, while the economic issues are different now, it does seem to a situation where you’d think the PMA and the ILWU would use the opportunity to work together on improving operations.
My sense is the PMA is mostly focussed on introducing more automated tools and reducing workforce while the ILWU is preoccupied with trying to hold onto what jobs remain. One longshoreman commented to me that they would really like to have more training available to prepare members for technical type positions as automation proceeds.
Of course, that raises the question of whether or not the ILWU members even have a shot at the positions involved with maintaining and operation highly automated equipment or not. As we saw with the chassis, employers sold off the equipment to leasing companies so they (in part) could have non-union mechanics work on them.
Cue Peter, Paul and Mary—When will they ever learn?
February 21, 2015 at 5:37 pm #821754In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
Jd seattleParticipantJTB – I understand there are some new challenges for the ports. But just about every news article I’ve read says west coast ports are essentially crippled. Whether it be unorganized super ships, chassis or any of the other non labor reported issues, we should still have “crippled” ports for the foreseeable future then. At least until an operational/equipment overhaul of all of the west coast ports occurs to combat these new challenges.
I guess I’m just trying to point out that we have a lot of people pinning this entirely on the union or entirely on the PMA. One bad guy and one good guy. Does anyone truly think one or the other was standing idle and playing honest and fair while the other was pushing them around? I’ve never known big corporations or unions to get bullied without doing some bullying right back.
February 21, 2015 at 5:30 pm #821753In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
dobroParticipant“What I do know is that courts have ruled against the longshoreman for slowing down work
deliberatley to “help” their case.”
Well, according to the article on that subject you presented, you actually know that there was a ruling in the early summer of last year on a work slowdown unrelated to this case. That’s a little different than “knowing” something about this event.
February 21, 2015 at 5:29 pm #816805Topic: Car accident
in forum Open Discussioncaryncarlin2007ParticipantWould the owner of silver Toyota Camry, licence —PLG contact me. I watched you hit my car and drive away.
February 21, 2015 at 5:23 pm #821752In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
JoBParticipantJd
when a port has crawled to stop.. any improvement in productivity will look like a fix to bystanders
February 21, 2015 at 5:59 am #821750In reply to: Longshoreman need to be trumped!
JTBParticipantJd. My understanding is the big sticking point was the union’s effort to be able to replace arbitrators through mutual agreement with PMA rather than have essentially a lifetime appointment.
To your other point, the increased size of container ships and method of loading inbound containers will both continue to place a strain on the ability of the ports to processes incoming loads. Apparently the shippers in Asia no longer load containers according to destination which means more sorting on the receiving end.
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